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    This Sept 2015 Coast to Coast interview, with author Robert Guffey -- all about invisibility technology -- is HIGHLY recommended.

    Trust me on this one.

    I recommend it...
    • first, for the subject matter: a staggering and almost ridiculous story in which compelling evidence emerged of operational invisibility technology, and
    • second, because Robert Guffey's recounting of the whole extraordinary tale is, all at once, fascinating, entertaining, articulate and hilarious. It's really quite wonderful to listen to.

    Robert Guffey
    , who few may have heard of, was a personal friend of Walter Bowart (who wrote the classic OPERATION MIND CONTROL -- download that here as a PDF, by the way), and is also a University Lecturer in English: clearly an extremely bright and articulate man, with a sparkling sense of humor, too.

    Here's the Coast to Coast summary of the show:

    George Knapp was joined by author and researcher, Robert Guffey, who shared the remarkable story of Damien (called Dion in Guffey's book), an unrepentant heroin addict who in 2003 sheltered a US Marine that had stolen 22 pairs of night vision goggles, a DoD laptop, and perhaps a few top secret files from Camp Pendleton, a military base in the San Diego area.

    Arrested under the Patriot Act, Damien underwent a six-day-long Abu-Ghraib-style interrogation by the NCIS, and was accused of trying to sell the military equipment to terrorists. Damien refused to testify against the Marine, or cooperate in any way, and was eventually released.

    But after his release he began to notice he was being "gang stalked" around San Diego, with 7-9 people following him into a 7-11, restaurants, and various places. They wanted him to feel discombobulated and paranoid, Guffey explained. Vehicles were parked outside Damien's house, and Guffey knew someone at the DMV, and found out that none of the license plate numbers "officially existed," which suggested they were government vehicles.

    After this, Damien began to be bombarded with hallucinations, such as seeing multiple moons in the sky, and the dimensions of his apartment were changing. Further, invisible people were in the room, interacting with him and moving things around, and he saw a black amorphous energy.

    A woman from the NCIS visited Damien on a number of occasions, asking if he was ready to cooperate, implying that the harassment would end if he worked with them. Guffey was able to track down Richard Schowengerdt, said to be one of the scientists behind a project code named "Chameleo" that involved bizarre experimentation including "cloaking" — electro-optical camouflage so extreme it rendered observers practically invisible, which correlated with what Damien experienced.

    Damien was likely used as a guinea pig to test out the effect of this technology, Guffey concluded, adding that he and Damien suspected the missing night vision goggles may have been especially important to the military as they possibly allowed wearers to see that which had been made invisible.

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    Default Re: CHAMELEO -- SAIC's classified (and operational) invisibility program

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    Follow-up: giovonni made a reference to the same subject in his thread here, citing this more recent interview with Robert Guffey (which I haven't yet heard).

    If it's as good as the one with George Knapp ^^, I'll look forward to another treat.


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    Default Re: CHAMELEO -- SAIC's classified (and operational) invisibility program

    I'm just now plowing through Joseph Farrell's (about a 1/3rd through) "Hidden Finances, Rougue Networks and Secret Sorcery" (so much info to digest as it always is with Farrell!)- Farrell has also mentioned the big significance of SAIC but I'm not through with the book yet-

    be well all-

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    Wow, thank you Bill. . .suddenly a whole new energy on the Forum with this sort of info, I thought things were getting a bit stagnant lately, & now. . .

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    I'm only on the first hour but here's a notion. Was the "AWOL" kid in on the operation to target this guy for the whole experiment?
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    Default Re: CHAMELEO -- SAIC's classified (and operational) invisibility program

    Fifteen odd years ago I was browsing surveillance tech the public could buy online. An idea came to me that invisibility tech had to be possible when I saw the size of lenses in everyday items. If you could get them down to the size of, say, a pin head. Linked via gossamer fibre optics to a lens diametrically opposed on the other side of a suit, each recording and transmitting what it saw to its opposite twin. Power issues, and weight, were something beyond my ken but I figured it was possible and only a matter of time.

    Interesting story, especially as it hinted going back as far as the 70's. They could have come a lot further in 40 years.

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    Listening to Fox News (which I dislike usually) getting out a small part of the dirt about Hilary Clinton, on Hannity. Talking about Wikileaks revelation and a "fixer" journalist as a witness. Finally making out in the media.

    Now, if we, the people, had access to that technology, which is now used against regular folks, politicians would have to be honest because they could be filmed at any time with their crookedness. Almost better than telepathy.

    This video on this thead tells me however that for them to lie as they do, and not be made public, the army, the NSA, the CIA, the MJ12, the... name it, are all in with it. They could at anytime stop these crooked politics, these crooked bankers, since they have the tools to do so.

    They could help into making this planet a nice one and its people a non violent, empathetical society. But they do not. And it is in their hands. I would not like their karma, hiding harmful stuff and by doing so, harming millions, is as bad as the karmic debt for the doers themselves (and no, karma is not redeemable by having someone else pay for you as they believe).

    Thanks for this info Bill

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    Default Re: CHAMELEO -- SAIC's classified (and operational) invisibility program

    British intelligence during the war was involved in the occult and tried to use it has a weapon. The so named in popular circles the Philadelphia Experiment did indeed happen, it wasn't an experiment it was a unforeseen event in which the subjects on the vessel were amalgamated into the ship itself at a sub atomic level.

    If something is possible and you have enough resources and it is unconventional then those in the dark secretive areas, those that lie in the depths of Special Access Programs and beyond will certainly try to exploit it for numerous reasons. A enemy or some unwitting group or person who does not know of such things will not be able to form an adequate defence since even the concept of such things is beyond all rational thinking in the traditional sense and not apart of any learnt experience nor is there any frame of reference you can refer to, hence you are unable to respond to such things and alternative explanations will be sort rather than what is possible and what is reality, then what is reality a perception of ones experience amongst other things.

    Invisibility has been and is been sort and apart of classified projects, even bordering mystical realms. Think about all the phenomena's which are not seen by the human eye, yet they exist just as radio waves, and microwaves exist, it will attract attention, and with advanced technology and knowledge of other realms use my mystics and so name psychics, combine this with Psychotronics and the recesses of human sub conscious you will achieve results beyond any rationale thinking.

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    The researcher's edition of Walter Bowart's book is on archive.org
    Those who must silence others for speaking the truth cannot be innocent.

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    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    Fifteen odd years ago I was browsing surveillance tech the public could buy online. An idea came to me that invisibility tech had to be possible when I saw the size of lenses in everyday items. If you could get them down to the size of, say, a pin head. Linked via gossamer fibre optics to a lens diametrically opposed on the other side of a suit, each recording and transmitting what it saw to its opposite twin. Power issues, and weight, were something beyond my ken but I figured it was possible and only a matter of time.

    Interesting story, especially as it hinted going back as far as the 70's. They could have come a lot further in 40 years.
    I was thinking about this and started to think along the lines of what you have mentioned above Ewan, then I had a thought.

    What if you could make a electrically conductive fabric suite something to akin to a faraday cage, then fit a device self contained device with power source that could send a signal or signals to the garment at a frequency that was beyond the range of visible sight or emitted a signal that told your eyes to ignore what they were seeing, sounds silly doesn't it ? but it may explain the special eyewear.

    Sounds like an interesting project to be involved with if it technology wasn't being misused .

    I have to add , if you did work on such a technology and it was perfected you may find that after the project was over you may find you have the life expectancy of a hamster.
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    Its interesting I see this...just today I read of a second cop who shot himself in the foot..one trying to shoot a raccoon and another a human...provided these stories are correct..I suddenly thought how odd shooting themselves ...I imagined invisible manipulation...would be interesting if the right creative intelligent people had a hold of this type tech...flip things around ya know
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    This Sept 2015 Coast to Coast interview, with author Robert Guffey -- all about invisibility technology -- is HIGHLY recommended.

    Trust me on this one.

    I recommend it...
    • first, for the subject matter: a staggering and almost ridiculous story in which compelling evidence emerged of operational invisibility technology, and
    • second, because Robert Guffey's recounting of the whole extraordinary tale is, all at once, fascinating, entertaining, articulate and hilarious. It's really quite wonderful to listen to.

    Robert Guffey
    , who few may have heard of, was a personal friend of Walter Bowart (who wrote the classic OPERATION MIND CONTROL -- download that here as a PDF, by the way), and is also a University Lecturer in English: clearly an extremely bright and articulate man, with a sparkling sense of humor, too.

    Here's the Coast to Coast summary of the show:

    George Knapp was joined by author and researcher, Robert Guffey, who shared the remarkable story of Damien (called Dion in Guffey's book), an unrepentant heroin addict who in 2003 sheltered a US Marine that had stolen 22 pairs of night vision goggles, a DoD laptop, and perhaps a few top secret files from Camp Pendleton, a military base in the San Diego area.

    Arrested under the Patriot Act, Damien underwent a six-day-long Abu-Ghraib-style interrogation by the NCIS, and was accused of trying to sell the military equipment to terrorists. Damien refused to testify against the Marine, or cooperate in any way, and was eventually released.

    But after his release he began to notice he was being "gang stalked" around San Diego, with 7-9 people following him into a 7-11, restaurants, and various places. They wanted him to feel discombobulated and paranoid, Guffey explained. Vehicles were parked outside Damien's house, and Guffey knew someone at the DMV, and found out that none of the license plate numbers "officially existed," which suggested they were government vehicles.

    After this, Damien began to be bombarded with hallucinations, such as seeing multiple moons in the sky, and the dimensions of his apartment were changing. Further, invisible people were in the room, interacting with him and moving things around, and he saw a black amorphous energy.

    A woman from the NCIS visited Damien on a number of occasions, asking if he was ready to cooperate, implying that the harassment would end if he worked with them. Guffey was able to track down Richard Schowengerdt, said to be one of the scientists behind a project code named "Chameleo" that involved bizarre experimentation including "cloaking" — electro-optical camouflage so extreme it rendered observers practically invisible, which correlated with what Damien experienced.

    Damien was likely used as a guinea pig to test out the effect of this technology, Guffey concluded, adding that he and Damien suspected the missing night vision goggles may have been especially important to the military as they possibly allowed wearers to see that which had been made invisible.
    Wow, my targeting is far different. Only I'm tortured by some beam technology I don't understand and cannot stop. It's worse in my home but happens wherever I am. I hope I can find a way to block this.!!!

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    I'm of the opinion that this information should be read and understood. The CHAMELEO story is absolutely entertaining even if you do not end up believing the story. It's a roller coaster of a ride.

    I'm posting on this thread because of a thread good ole moderator Mike threw together.
    Good ole moderator Mike, he threw this thread up.
    Elisa Lam Documentary

    And on this thread, Mike, he has this here youtube video discussing the mysterious situation of one Elisa Lam.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yda8zcCCx1Q

    Now the initial reason I'm thinking folks were interested in this video was because of David Paulides mentioning the disappearance and attributing a certain non-human quality to the disappearance, a certain interdimensional explanation if you will. Now, I've been listening and reading Paulides since 2012 and I've got the threads here on Avalon to prove it.
    But after listening to Mike's video I got the impression that Paulides was wrong on this one, and yet there seemed a very odd and possibly equally exotic explanation for the disappearance.
    Elisa Lam seems to have had some kind of interest she posted online about a Canadian company inventing a real life version of the Harry Potter invisibility cloak.
    Further more there seems to have been a company involved with invisibility R&D mentioned as having rented one of the suites in the hotel she was staying in.
    Further more the video of her last moments alive seem to show her interacting with an invisible presence on a camera mounted inside of an elevator.
    Her wrists seem to be moving against an object that does not seem to be there.
    Optically speaking it is a strange phenomenon to behold.
    This all happening in the LA CA area started me thinking about the incidents talked about on this thread that took place for the most part just south of LA CA in San Diego CA.
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    Hey Marcus, this is the book good ol moderator Mike wanted to send you, remember? I knew it was right up your alley. I actually started a thread on this too. Of course without initially knowing good ol, jolly ol Bill had beat me to it. Damn you Bill☺.

    I think it's interesting to note that this Elisa Lam case involves the dead body being found in water, which is a common denominator in many of Paulides cases.

    If the technology featured in Chameleo was used against Lam, it was a much more sinister group using it than the one who harassed Damien in 'Chameleo'.

    It wouldn't surprise me in the least if some dark group was posted up in that hotel, using this tech against the people there (it might explain what appears to be a police cover up in the Lam case). I think they're using this tech, at least initially, on the homeless , vagrants, drug addicts, transients and so forth. Plausible deniability. No one is going to believe them of course when they attempt to relate their experiences.
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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Hey Marcus, this is the book good ol moderator Mike wanted to send you, remember?
    I was kind of busting your balls with the moderator Mike thing.
    All in good fun.
    Thanks for the book offer and I trust you on your recomendation the the thing is I take book loaning kind of seriously, and I have "passport to magonia" sitting right here on my bookshelf looking at me and I have had it for over a year and I still haven't read it. Also, I got kids. Young kids, and they consider all books fair game for a crayola masterpiece. So I just didn't want to kill your book is all.
    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    I knew it was right up your alley. I actually started a thread on this too. Of course without initially knowing good ol, jolly ol Bill had beat me to it. Damn you Bill☺.
    It is right up my alley, and it's scary as hell too.
    Can you imagine getting this stuff aimed at you.
    Too Scary

    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    I think it's interesting to note that this Elisa Lam case involves the dead body being found in water, which is a common denominator in many of Paulides cases.
    That is a bit of a stretch.
    The Paulides cases all involve lakes and streams for the most part.
    Including a water tank on top of a building is almost like including a bathtub.

    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    If the technology featured in Chameleo was used against Lam, it was a much more sinister group using it than the one who harassed Damien in 'Chameleo'.
    A tool is only as evil as the person using it.
    It would only be a matter of time before something like this fell into the wrong hands.
    And I can't think of any other kind of hands this would have been made for.


    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    It wouldn't surprise me in the least if some dark group was posted up in that hotel, using this tech against the people there (it might explain what appears to be a police cover up in the Lam case). I think they're using this tech, at least initially, on the homeless , vagrants, drug addicts, transients and so forth. Plausible deniability. No one is going to believe them of course when they attempt to relate their experiences.
    Indeed. And if the weaponized Tuberculosis deal named "Lam, Elisa" was in fact a construct then it would appear that they used this on the homeless as well. Possibly to test it's virulence.
    Kind of reminds me of that movie Kevin Bacon did where he was drunk with power once he tapped into a technological invisibility and turned into a weirdo rapist.
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    Here's the book.

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    Dang good book. Scary as hades, just as relevant today as the day it was published. I’d argue even more relevant today.

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    I'm about three quarters through the book and it's excellent. It all sounds like fantasy until you actually experience the stuff. Whew. It's best to dump fear and laugh in the face of it. It's about all you can do in that kind of situation.

    I actually admire Dion, the heroin addict. He seems to be more sane than the kind of stuff he was exposed to.
    "The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what we share with someone when we are uncool." From the movie "Almost Famous""l "Let yourself stand cool and composed before a million universes." Walt Whitman

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    so glad this thread was bumbed since it slipped by...



    In the seasons of filming it was an hypothesis that there is a stealth technology that was applied around a craft which was an living sentient organism that carried on a symbiotic relationship with the entities that occupy it's living space. I say that because of some of the things that changed with the craft. Also the inside appeared to be different colors of the light spectrum, even filmed the entities that could phase in and out and be light themselves. In the video posted it's very interesting that the reflection of the blanket was visible at certain angle just like what showed up in the video as a reflective surface.


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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Here's the book.
    Sadly this page is no longer valid... I clicked it..

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