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    This is the first US presidential election that I have followed closely with my dowsing experience. Four years ago, I didn’t much care who won. Eight years ago, I was not very experienced with dowsing. This election year, I am (like many Americans) torn between two unappealing candidates. One (Clinton) whose personal goals are fully STS‡, would continue the evil, criminal elite plan to destroy the USA while using it to destroy other nations. The other (Trump) who may have good intentions, but due to his obvious character flaws, with a conflicting mix of STS and STO, might not be able to carry out those good intentions and might fail miserably. Or who just might succeed to “make America great again”. Well, I have a bias of who I wish to win this election, and that bias could truly affect my ability to predict using dowsing. I have another bias of logic telling me that the election outcome has been pre-ordained by TPTB. These two biases are at opposite ends of the spectrum and, you could say that, my dowsing pendulum is swinging wildly between the two very different results.

    Not the case. For the last few months, I have been seeing the logical outcome of a Hillary win via the overwhelming capabilities of TPTB. Namely their huge sums of money, their ownership of the national media, their ability to rig elections, and their willing use of murder without legal consequences. So I thought. So I repeatedly told all others who might listen to me.

    You can imagine how surprised I was two days ago when I got this sudden impulse to dowse to check the, still future, election results. The Donald wins! Amazing! But how can this be? I am well aware that the future is not written in stone. Outcomes can vary as people change them by thoughts and prayers and deeds. Actions in the present can change events in the future. Therefore, predictions of future are fraught with the dilemma of choosing the events with the most potential. Whenever I dowse for future predictions, I always ask for the outcome with the highest potential. In this case, the voters seem to have radically changed their minds despite the hopes desires and actions of the corrupt media to control their minds.

    Donald Trump will also, most likely, survive the transition to presidency, and beyond. The USA will prosper. Wars in the world will subside. Wow! We know that the USA created IS/ISIS/ISIL. Soon, the USA will succeed in killing its evil step child. What is happening to TPTB? Are they now really becoming TPTW? Yes!

    ‡ STS = Service To Self. STO = Service To Others.

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    Voting for either candidate is relinquishing your personal power; I am in the world but not of it. Both Trump and Clinton if elected will still be a pawn in the hands of those whose thought power is faster than theirs. Besides, the artificial system is expanding which means that the power of the Anti-Mind is expanding too. If however, enough people begin to train their thought power to the degree of those who are truly in charge of this out-of-control Anti-Mind playground we call civilized society; maybe, just maybe, we can even the odds out of good verses evil. It would take however, just a small degree of thought power to change to turn the "STS" mindset to the "STO" mindset. May we come together to THINK away selfish and absurd thinking. If the Universe depends on Man to continue its existence and not spin into a self collapsing vacuum; we THINKERS must somehow unite together and put a stop to the current dominant thought pattern that is plaguing all of Mankind. This election is proof enough of where we are going as a created race. Rise up people! Take back your own thought power! Help others to take back theirs too! This will take a change in breathing, and how we train our minds. Less entreating more creating. This is where my current mindset is; thank you for respecting it. Nice post wnlight

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    To supporters of either Killory or Frump, sometimes when you win, you lose.

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    Yeah, vote for the Klingon, let's see what happens... PFS

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    President of the World Press Conference

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    Quote Posted by wnlight (here)

    You can imagine how surprised I was two days ago when I got this sudden impulse to dowse to check the, still future, election results. The Donald wins! Amazing! But how can this be?


    That post ^^ was dated 28 October.

    Kudos to wnlight (Warren Light) -- who has now been elevated to the ranks of the most impressive dowser I know.

    I just sent him a PM asking him if he can now dowse what the h*** happens next...

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    Winlight, I have direct questions for your dosing abilities:

    Will China succeed within 25 years in becoming the main managing power country of the earth?

    Have the dracos left the earth (or their power)?

    Have the Mantid ET race given up power over us?

    Is china run by another reptilian race? Are there plans for them to take over (other reptilian race)? China?

    When will the transition to a spiritual race happen for humans? (Dates and events)

    Who is Trump aligned with? Dracos, humanoid ET, other reptilians, same old PTB, military, others?

    Up to you to give an answer, I would just like to know -but if you prefer not, I would understand, be free
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    Quote Posted by wnlight (here)
    ... Whenever I dowse for future predictions, I always ask for the outcome with the highest potential. In this case, the voters seem to have radically changed their minds despite the hopes desires and actions of the corrupt media to control their minds.
    Maybe you're missing the Minority Report
    If you haven't seen the movie, my point is that the "Minority Report" can be pretty important and should probably not be disregarded. I imagine some small thing in the past could have been altered - and that's what could have caused bad readings (just a guess). Not really sure if you believe the future can affect the past or not, but I do.

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    Donald Trump will also, most likely, survive the transition to presidency, and beyond. The USA will prosper. Wars in the world will subside. Wow! We know that the USA created IS/ISIS/ISIL. Soon, the USA will succeed in killing its evil step child. What is happening to TPTB? Are they now really becoming TPTW? Yes!

    ‡ STS = Service To Self. STO = Service To Others.
    I had to look up what TPTB means, and the answer made me L-O-L ;-)

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    From Flash: Winlight, I have direct questions for your dosing abilities:

    My dowsing response to Flash:
    Most of your questions are complex. As dosing can only answer simple questions with a yes or no response, I must to split yours into more simple questions. I hope that I have
    not lost anything in translation.

    1) Will China succeed within 25 years in becoming the main managing power country of the earth? Yes
    2) Are there Draco ET? Yes
    3) Have the Draco controlled human civilization and history? No
    4) Have the Dracos left the earth? Yes
    5) Have the Dracos lost their power over us? Yes
    6) Are there Mantid ET? Yes
    7) Have the Mantid controlled human civilization and history? Yes
    8) Have the Mantid given up power over us? Yes
    9) Is China run by another reptilian race? No
    10) Does the other reptilian race plan to take over China? No
    11) Will humans transition to a spiritual race? Yes
    12) Has the spiritual transition begun? Yes
    13) Will the spiritual transition begin in the next 25 years? Yes
    14) Is Trump aligned with Dracos? No
    15) Is Trump aligned with humanoid ET? No
    16) Is Trump aligned with reptilians? No
    17) Is Trump aligned with human PTB? Yes
    18) Is Trump aligned with the military? Yes

    In an attempt to respond to the spirit of your post, I have added a few more questions:

    19) Do the Draco have an agenda for the earth that is detrimental for earth humans? No
    20) Are there other Reptilians that have an agenda for the earth that is detrimental for earth humans? Yes
    21) Do the Mantid have an agenda for the earth that is detrimental for earth humans? No
    22) Do any ET humanoids have an agenda for the earth that is detrimental for earth humans? No
    23) Do any grey ET have an agenda for the earth that is detrimental for earth humans? Yes
    24) Are all grey ET in agreement in their agenda for earth humans? No
    25) Are there ET that consider earth humans to be their property? Yes
    26) Are there ET races that would prefer that all earth humans be eliminated? Yes
    27) Has there been a Reptilian sitting at the top of the power chain over earth humans? Yes
    28) Is that reptilian a Draco? No
    29) Does that reptilian consider us to be his property? Yes
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    Warren, thank you. That's quite an eyeful, though no surprise.

    Thank you for giving your time and energy for that very heavy weight of answers.
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    many many thanks wnlight' so sweet of you
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    I’d sign it . Well done for Flash and Warren

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