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    Default Democracy is coming to the USA

    With a hope and a prayer, I think this is a song appropriate to the times.

    Either way, Leonard Cohen is the man.



    It's coming through a hole in the air,
    from those nights in Tiananmen Square.
    It's coming from the feel
    that this ain't exactly real,
    or it's real, but it ain't exactly there.
    From the wars against disorder,
    from the sirens night and day,
    from the fires of the homeless,
    from the ashes of the gay:
    Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.
    It's coming through a crack in the wall;
    on a visionary flood of alcohol;
    from the staggering account
    of the Sermon on the Mount
    which I don't pretend to understand at all.
    It's coming from the silence
    on the dock of the bay,
    from the brave, the bold, the battered
    heart of Chevrolet:
    Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.

    It's coming from the sorrow in the street,
    the holy places where the races meet;
    from the homicidal bitchin'
    that goes down in every kitchen
    to determine who will serve and who will eat.
    From the wells of disappointment
    where the women kneel to pray
    for the grace of God in the desert here
    and the desert far away:
    Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.

    Sail on, sail on
    O mighty Ship of State!
    To the Shores of Need
    Past the Reefs of Greed
    Through the Squalls of Hate
    Sail on, sail on, sail on, sail on.

    It's coming to America first,
    the cradle of the best and of the worst.
    It's here they got the range
    and the machinery for change
    and it's here they got the spiritual thirst.
    It's here the family's broken
    and it's here the lonely say
    that the heart has got to open
    in a fundamental way:
    Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.

    It's coming from the women and the men.
    O baby, we'll be making love again.
    We'll be going down so deep
    the river's going to weep,
    and the mountain's going to shout Amen!
    It's coming like the tidal flood
    beneath the lunar sway,
    imperial, mysterious,
    in amorous array:
    Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.

    Sail on, sail on ...

    I'm sentimental, if you know what I mean
    I love the country but I can't stand the scene.
    And I'm neither left or right
    I'm just staying home tonight,
    getting lost in that hopeless little screen.
    But I'm stubborn as those garbage bags
    that Time cannot decay,
    I'm junk but I'm still holding up
    this little wild bouquet:
    Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.


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    I remember as a late, well right in the middle teenager, having gone to the old Montreal without my mom's permission, in a bar even if underage, and I was all impressed because the great poet, Leonard Cohen, was having a drink there.

    The song tells you however what some Canadian think of USA. "Exporting democracy" presumebly eslewhere while not having true democracy in their own country (just the voting fraud tells it all, plus all the times we hear that presidents are nominated, plus a two parties political scene where millions and millions are necessary to be elected, certainly not for the ordinary man who could make more sense than those presented to the American people).

    Hopefully, democracy is coming in the USA.
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    Yeah, he paints the picture, shuttered automobile industries and all. I heard he was doing his farewell tour not long ago, he has to be like up in his 80s by now. So I doubt I'll ever get the chance to see the guy in person.

    If the two party system were the worst of our problems I'd be happy.

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    like any race , don't stop running till you're well over the finishing line , this isn't finished just yet

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    He passed away a few years ago.

    It is his son who keeps him on the market place.

    Another one when he was young below. His voice got much deeper with age. And a Jew talking about Jesus, interesting.



    this one song describes in part Montreal in the sixties.

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    Yeah, he paints the picture, shuttered automobile industries and all. I heard he was doing his farewell tour not long ago, he has to be like up in his 80s by now. So I doubt I'll ever get the chance to see the guy in person.

    If the two party system were the worst of our problems I'd be happy.
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    Damn Flash, don't scare me like that. Leonard Cohen isn't dead yet!

    But the good news is that when I looked it up to see if he had died I found out that he released a new album last month called You Want It Darker.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonar...Want_It_Darker

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    Gosh BsBray, I swear I have a Mandela effect moment!!! I had read that a few years back, and that his son was taking all his music and remastering it, as well as composing some of his own.


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    Damn Flash, don't scare me like that. Leonard Cohen isn't dead yet!

    But the good news is that when I looked it up to see if he had died I found out that he released a new album last month called You Want It Darker.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonar...Want_It_Darker
    How to let the desire of your mind become the desire of your heart - Gurdjieff

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    Ha! I too, read and knew that he has passed few years ago (and that his son kept him on the market, exactly), but then I forgot about it (for me he was still alive through his songs) - and this year, when I read reviews on his new album the contradiction did not occur to me.

    Mandela? Real fake news back then? collective hypnosis? Funny.

    Praised be Leonard Cohen alive


    edit: I'd vote for fake news back then.
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    Quote Posted by Iloveyou (here)
    edit: I'd vote for fake news back then.
    Me too. My grandma once started calling people because she read on Facebook that Betty White had died. It was a hoax.

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    Default Re: Democracy is coming to the USA

    We already have democracy.
    That's part of the problem.

    We're supposed to have a
    "republican form of government."

    See Ozmirage's threads for more
    info if you're interested.


    Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
    genevieve


    P.S. Some people define a democracy
    as two wolves and a lamb deciding
    what to have for dinner.

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