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    Quote Posted by Sueanne47 (here)
    But most up to date news ISNT good!!! okay I'll take the hint and wont post any news from now on..
    No hint on my part. I took the time to share what I learned of myself. I'll not get those wasted, fear-filled years back. It is my hope that it'll save you time and possible arguments with loved ones that aren't ready to hear. To stay abreast is good. Don't let it consume. Don't let it take away from family, friends and your creativity.

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    Default Re: Not Quite Farewell

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    Quote Posted by Sueanne47 (here)
    But most up to date news ISNT good!!! okay I'll take the hint and wont post any news from now on..
    No hint on my part. I took the time to share what I learned of myself. I'll not get those wasted, fear-filled years back. It is my hope that it'll save you time and possible arguments with loved ones that aren't ready to hear. To stay abreast is good. Don't let it consume. Don't let it take away from family, friends and your creativity.
    Well Paula we are definitely on the same page on this.
    In the early days here I spent hours looking into this and that and one case in point I was obsessed with Nibru--though I did not see it that way.
    I wanted Earth to have a new beginning for th evil to b destroyed and the good to survive

    Every u tube video I could find on the subject I posted.
    On that Herve pointed out several facts.pushed my buttons.
    Also on the resonance of the Earth--Herve again correct
    Herve has a scientist mind and for that I am grateful very direct, painfully so at times.

    My dearest Sue and Im not being sarcastic--we share a birthday and a nature--times you might have thought I was being critical--if so it was because I was reminded of a younger me and the sleepless nights I spent full of adrenalin, even getting up in the middle of the night some times, to find something to expose the "bastids"

    Did it raise my consciousness--did it better my life --did it improve my relationships?
    Do I need to answer that?

    Paula just trying to save you some pain, as I do with love.

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    Default Re: Not Quite Farewell

    Quote Posted by Sueanne47 (here)
    Quote Posted by EmEx (here)
    I was a bit sad for CO2 that he was banned, he was such a kind person, he probably didn't even know he was unfit for Avalon. I've seen people in my friends list banned after I came back from a 6 month break. No one knows who could be next, maybe me, maybe you.
    One of my friends was banned as well, this person had a great sense of humour which is what we need.
    Having a "great" sense of humour is certainly a great gift and is always welcome on Avalon. As long as I have been a member here, I have never seen a member being banned for having a great sense of humour Susanne. Your friend would have been banned for other reasons that you do not mention. Members have been banned for various reasons. For example, using Avalon and members for their own hidden agendas. Stalking, being disrespectful towards other members. ECT.
    When you express from a fearful heart in the now moment, You create a fearful future.
    When you express from a loving heart in the now moment, You create a loving future.

    Have no fear, Be aware and live your lives journey from a compassionate caring nurturing heart to manifest a compassionate caring nurturing future. Billyji


    Peace

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    Default Re: Not Quite Farewell

    At the request of the original poster, I have (with pleasure) changed the title of this thread from "A Final Farewell" to "Not Quite Farewell".

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    Quote Posted by EmEx (here)
    I was a bit sad for CO2 that he was banned, he was such a kind person, he probably didn't even know he was unfit for Avalon. I've seen people in my friends list banned after I came back from a 6 month break. No one knows who could be next, maybe me, maybe you.

    Mods and Bill don't see this as a critic please, I agree with whatever your decisions may be on the forum.
    CO2 ban was an interesting one.

    Nobody can argue about the decision ...yet many were left grasping for words.

    Avalon and Bill himself do have a trace of elitism in their decision making. But to their credit there is a lot of silliness going around.

    Herve has an intelligence and arrogance of his own. Is that good or bad?

    I don't know.

    If you attract life force sooner or later you have to set up rules. You have to get your cats to not pee all over, your dogs to not assault the neighbors and your forum users to not act completely stupid .

    How you accomplish that is always the issue.

    And your own limitations show up ...when you want/try to impose something.

    Nobody wants silly members ...but who's to say who's silly or not? Based on what criteria ?

    And yes, someone can be silly in 10 threads and strike gold in the 11'th.

    Who's to know?

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    There has been quite a few mentions of different polarities in this thread. For example, left and right as far as political opinions go. Being balanced has also been mentioned. But what exactly is being in a balanced state mean.?

    What I have learned through my lives journey, is that there is a balanced positive and an unbalanced positive, a balanced negative and unbalanced negative. When a balanced positive and a balanced negative meet in the middle of the person, that person becomes balanced.
    It is the same with left and right in the political arena. There are unbalanced left supporters and balanced left supporters, unbalanced right supporters and balanced right supporters. The solution's are to be found somewhere in the neutral centre's of both balanced energies.

    We are all aware that the world is riding a storm at this time. Crazy times indeed. Emotions are heightened but we all know the value of riding this storm together. During the Scottish referendum and brexit I made myself a promise that I would not lose good friends because of different political opinions. My friends and I had hot debates but that promise worked. The love and care I have for my friends way outweighed any political outcome.

    My inner intentions are for all outcomes to be for the betterment of all.

    We can all do this if we stick together and focus more on solutions, rather than dramatic unbalanced fear porn.

    Love to all
    When you express from a fearful heart in the now moment, You create a fearful future.
    When you express from a loving heart in the now moment, You create a loving future.

    Have no fear, Be aware and live your lives journey from a compassionate caring nurturing heart to manifest a compassionate caring nurturing future. Billyji


    Peace

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    Quote Posted by kemo (here)
    I haven't read most of the posts in this thread, as I have effectively retired myself from this forum but fully agree with the OP. There is a group of highly vociferous and opinionated, and pretty right-wing, members of this forum who assume everyone agrees with their highly biased rants. The one mentioned by the OP is one but there are a bunch of others - you know who you are - who think anyone who doesn't agree with them is naive or stupid or a paid shill. I occasionally check any UFO/ET related stuff but never log in - this will be the one and only exception - and ignore the politically motivated ones - as I say mostly the usual suspects involved and all of a similar slant. I did take a peek a few weeks ago and practicaly all the latest threads were of that nature. Maybe I'm wrong but it has to be a reasonable assumption that the mods here and even the site owner agrees with the bigots. Now I'm sure there are many members who don't but here's the deal. For me - I did read one or two early posts in this thread on the lines of "don't throw out the baby with the bathwater" but this is missing the point. I don't wish to be a member of the same forum as some PA members. I'm damn glad I don't live next door to some of these guys or I'd have to move. That's me done - I had practically retired myself anyway and never posted much either. Bye. Don't anyone bother responding as I won't be reading it.
    Hey there, this is Bill here, responding personally. I totally get what you're saying.

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    I haven't read most of the posts in this thread
    ...
    Don't anyone bother responding as I won't be reading it.
    I get that, too, but I hope that you do read this, and I also hope you do read most of the posts on the thread. It may be well worth it, and that's a kind of promise.

    If you did read everything -- including what I and quite a few others have written -- you'd see that some of what you passionately feel to be the case may not be so, at all... most certainly including the mods (and the 'site owner') agreeing with unreasonable and extreme views.

    We do not. It's important, in fact, that we continue to moderate/ facilitate/ preside over a respectful, balanced and intelligent discussion. This can be more than tricky, but that's what we're honestly trying to do.

    If you only have a few minutes (logged in or not), do please read this post of mine. (#44, two days ago.) You may possibly be reassured.
    We understand, and absolutely wish you well -- and I would like to personally ask you to maybe take a moment revisit some of your conclusions about
    • 'practically all the forum threads being politically motivated' (not the case, at all)
    • and that 'it's a reasonable assumption that the mods here and even the site owner agrees with the bigots' (very, very far from the case).
    In fact, one such 'bigot' has been unsubscribed, as he'd been a concern of ours for quite some time (and of other members too, as has been communicated to us, with appreciation).

    To step into the site owners' shoes a little more -- please do read my post #44 linked above. And also, please, these two subsequent posts of yesterday. Both may be helpful, and even important.
    Thanks again for your post, and for giving me an opportunity to clarify further -- totally on behalf of the whole mods team, too. It was genuinely helpful.

    In these times, we have to speak our truth, but (as I've mentioned) it's how we speak our truth that really matters.

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    Default Re: Not Quite Farewell

    Getting comfortable in uncomfortable situations is a crucial life skill. If you don't run off immediately, if you sort of marinate in the discomfort..in a way, over time, you kind of inoculate yourself against it...much like a child playing in dirt naturally inoculates himself against bacteria and so forth.

    Im not a man who deliberately seeks pain, and I wouldnt suggest that for anybody else. Yet, we frequently refer to ourselves as the "front line" here. Forget the illuminati..what kind of chance do we have in our everyday lives if we are to get too touchy in a forum environment like this? The earth is an uncomfortable place....cant hide from it. Or run from it. We have to learn to swim in it, wallow in it, marinate in it....learn how to deal with it.

    If we always retreat at the first whiff of "bad energy", we'll be retreating forever. And, one day, you wont be able to retreat, and having never dealt with this negativity before, youll find yourself in a very vulnerable position.

    Theres a healthy space between emotional sensitivity and emotional toughness. In these polarizing times, thats right where you wanna be

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    Default Re: Not Quite Farewell

    Though I agree with perspectives from OP and others in this thread, I disagree with banning people short of them making threats against or persistently harassing another member with hate speech. What appear as ignorant views or attitudes don't disappear when the person representing them is silenced.

    There seems to be a dynamic which happens on many forums when a certain view (or collection of commonly associated views) gains popularity. Those who correctly or incorrectly perceive themselves to be in the minority on that topic go mute for fear of backlash if they contradict "the bandwagon", or they simply lose interest in posting. Which again contributes to the perception that the forum is almost entirely of one mindset.

    Maybe it's a shared responsibility that we express what's important to us and engage problematic viewpoints/trends as we come across them?

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    How many times have we seen people sweep through this forum with novel concepts and entrance everyone with their keen acumen. They collect like-minded individuals like knick knacks. They talk with authority and soon begin to proselytize (don't you hate it when spell check can't suggest the word you want?, took me twenty minutes to find it by hand). Then in a few weeks or months their true colors come out and soon after they are gone, often taking long-standing members with them. 777 comes to mind, having come back to tell us so.

    Some people have an agenda. Some people just don't know how to behave. Some people just have a knack of making friends and seeming sincere. Some people just come here to learn. And some people come here to gather support. Others come here to become part of the "in" crowd. Some come just so as not to be alone, lurking around the fringes, wishing they knew how to seem like someone worthy of note or friendship. Still others come to see their words in print in a safe environment.

    Bill and the mods work to make everyone welcome. It can't be an easy job.

    In here, it is easy to see why the world is in the state it is in because even here, with like-minded, best-intentioned participants, we still cannot come to any consensus on anything. Makes me wonder and even despair at whether there even is a solution.

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    In the case of CO2 I regretfully share my opinion they were an expert troll. Trolls are people too and appreciate friendship and banter while parodying the subject matter pretending to be serious. This is my humble opinion but because of what I believe I was relieved at the moderation.

    On the other hand I let the moderator team know how unhappy I was about the wording of the OP in this thread. I'm glad I didn't weigh in by posting though (I clicked report this thread) because despite what I still believe to be unfortunate wording a voice needed to be heard I guess, .. judging from the reaction of 'the old guard' the voice just hanging on by a thread had company. I started out being quite unhappy about a few things in this thread but with hyndsight I'm reassured by the moderation policy of listening. I'm very glad a group here got their voice back.

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    Quote Posted by Innocent Warrior (here)
    Amazing how cruel humans can be once they decide someone has done wrong in some way
    How true is that? Members and Mods both join in like a pack of wolves to pick apart someone....knowing full well their words can make someone leave..or is that the intention?, I've been accused yesterday of posting 'fear porn' when all I have posted is NEWS and information on a subject....not fair.

    Even 'friends' can turn on you...how can we have friendship here without trust?

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    Friendship can be sharing a part of them selves, of their some what painful experience, in the hope of preventing suffering Sueanne--sometimes love is tough.
    As I said some time ago you are free to post as you wish, that has responsibility as per Bills post here.

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1115478

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    is that we continue to stick to good journalism, respect for all views, and intelligent, measured discussion of all these very important issues.
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1115318

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    The forum is not Facebook or Twitter, or a series of cheap-and-crude YouTube comments. It's a discussion forum dedicated and committed to facilitating learning on a wide range of fronts. We want members and guests to come here, and feel
    • Better informed, and more knowledgeable
    • Inspired and motivated (where possible/applicable)
    • Not quite so alone (as many feel they are)
    • Encouraged to see the entire human race as a vast spectrum of usually good people, not always well-informed and often manipulated, living lives in sometimes difficult (or even appalling) conditions, and usually all striving for the same goals.
    Bill is not for sensational video headlines.

    Sueanne please do not take anything to heart, you are above that--you are a good member.

    With love
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    Default Re: Not Quite Farewell

    To add ...

    Any stranger or loose acquaintance will tell you you look good today or that your new hair looks great or whatever. A true friend will tell you when you have spinach stuck in your teeth.


    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Friendship can be sharing a part of them selves, of their some what painful experience, in the hope of preventing suffering Sueanne--sometimes love is tough.
    As I said some time ago you are free to post as you wish, that has responsibility as per Bills post here.

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1115478

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    is that we continue to stick to good journalism, respect for all views, and intelligent, measured discussion of all these very important issues.
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1115318

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    The forum is not Facebook or Twitter, or a series of cheap-and-crude YouTube comments. It's a discussion forum dedicated and committed to facilitating learning on a wide range of fronts. We want members and guests to come here, and feel
    • Better informed, and more knowledgeable
    • Inspired and motivated (where possible/applicable)
    • Not quite so alone (as many feel they are)
    • Encouraged to see the entire human race as a vast spectrum of usually good people, not always well-informed and often manipulated, living lives in sometimes difficult (or even appalling) conditions, and usually all striving for the same goals.
    Bill is not for sensational video headlines.

    Sueanne please do not take anything to heart, you are above that--you are a good member.

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    Quote Posted by Sueanne47 (here)
    Quote Posted by Innocent Warrior (here)
    Amazing how cruel humans can be once they decide someone has done wrong in some way
    How true is that? Members and Mods both join in like a pack of wolves to pick apart someone....knowing full well their words can make someone leave..or is that the intention?, I've been accused yesterday of posting 'fear porn' when all I have posted is NEWS and information on a subject....not fair.

    Even 'friends' can turn on you...how can we have friendship here without trust?
    Suesanne, you seem like a nice lady, try not to take things personally and try to see the intent behind people's posts before becoming offended and then if you still think a certain post is out of line then report it to bring it to the attention of the mods. As you can see in my reply to Bill, I didn't appreciate the manner in which the OP conveyed his point and Bill clarified his intent, so OK, I'm no longer bothered and mentioned what I think would have been a kinder way to effectively go about expressing his intent. And here I am, no ban hammer or ill feelings, Bill, admin and mods are reasonable people.

    I was a moderator for about eight months I think, plenty of time to see how the staff operates, enough time to observe what motivates these people who are kind enough to volunteer their time in order to maintain a safe and respectable environment for us members. I may not always agree with everything and the mods don't always agree with each other about various things but their motivation and reason for being here is flawless. Bill, admin and mods don't deserve to be likened to a pack of wolves, if you have any problems with them then I suggest you send them a private message, like I said, they're reasonable people. Take the time to get to know people and you'll find your time here on Avalon will be a more pleasant experience for you.
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    Default Re: Not Quite Farewell

    Quote Posted by Sueanne47 (here)
    Members and Mods both join in like a pack of wolves to pick apart someone....knowing full well their words can make someone leave..or is that the intention?...

    Even 'friends' can turn on you...how can we have friendship here without trust?
    Sueanne47, sometimes a visual help put things into perspective. Since you joined on July 16, 2016, you’ve got a total of 65 threads and 1549 posts in four months. By comparison here’s a sampling of thread counts of people from your friends’ list and/or threads you frequent on the forum:
    1. Sueanne47 - 65 threads in 4 months
    2. Baby Steps - 17 threads in 2 yrs.
    3. BeTooBig - 35 threads in 2 1/2 yrs.
    4. Chris - 28 threads in almost 7 yrs.
    5. DeDukshyn - 32 threads in 6 yrs.
    6. RunningDeer - 91 threads in almost 5 yrs.
    7. Sstarss - 0 threads in 2 1/2 yrs.
    8. Wind - 14 threads in 5 yrs.
    Food for thought: how many pack of wolves and friends in your 3D life are there that express appreciation, thanks, support, read, and respond to such an extensive amount of material?

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    Default Re: Not Quite Farewell

    Quote Posted by Sueanne47 (here)
    Quote Posted by Innocent Warrior (here)
    Amazing how cruel humans can be once they decide someone has done wrong in some way
    How true is that? Members and Mods both join in like a pack of wolves to pick apart someone....knowing full well their words can make someone leave..or is that the intention?, I've been accused yesterday of posting 'fear porn' when all I have posted is NEWS and information on a subject....not fair.

    Even 'friends' can turn on you...how can we have friendship here without trust?
    Hi Sue, I know exactly how you feel because I have felt just like that myself before. Most of those feelings belong in the past though, sometimes, I admit, they still surface, but they no longer hang around very long. I came to understand that what was 'feeling' upset was not really me but an image of me. A story, it was my story, no-one had the right to interfere with my story.

    Except I also came to realise, through bouts of introspection, that much of the wisdom found in the eastern philosophies is indeed wise. The injunction, 'Know thyself', is so simple to say but has such great depth in can take a lifetime to appreciate.

    The expression 'fear porn' is used where information has been taken and sensationalised for dramatic effect. It also usely indicates that the information is not strictly accurate, or worse, deliberately altered to look even more dramatic.

    Herve just pointed out that the video you posted wasn't strictly accurate and even explained why. He then applied the label 'fear-porn' so you would know what it was.

    There is another way to handle this. You could feel grateful or appreciative for having your own awareness expanded, think of it as a gift.

    The ego will view it one way, the real you will view it another. Which voice will you listen to? Know this, the ego always speaks first, long and loud. Spirit waits quietly to communicate when all is still. God bless.

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    Hi Ewan, did you know that "Know Thyself" (in greek) was carved in Stone above the entrance to the Temple of Delphy (where the Oracle was)?

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    [*]RunningDeer - 91 threads in almost 5 yrs.
    omg spammer!



    I've only got 83 in 6 years

    Guess I'm not much of an original contributor, more of a conversation participant.

    Taking criticism is difficult, I'm working through a period with my two girls where any criticism of action whatsoever causes tears & flared emotions. I don't even have very good advice, for myself when I get that initial "feeling" of emotion I start to analyze the situation. Especially if I feel like I have to reply sooner than later (the sense of urgency is another good indicator).

    I try my best to do all my thinking and interacting in a conscious, purposeful way, when emotional states are involved it's much harder to stay true to my core self.

    anyway, I'm having fun reading some of my way-back-early posts now that I've gotten to dig into the search engine.. I mostly still agree with myself (not sure if that's a good thing or bad thing).
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    Is int life strange thats two friends gone Lake and Sueanne at the same time.
    Farewell.
    Oh well --it is as it is.
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