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    From the Thread: Anti-Trump Riots Erupt in the Bay Area

    Quote Posted by Althena (here)
    I grew up there, it's always been brain dead liberals living in the Bay, total waste of flesh.
    I just checked back into Avalon after years away. Comments like the one above are why I no longer frequent the site. It is easier to put labels on people and objectify them than to try to understand their perspective. But it is disappointing. Avalon was once a place where people from different backgrounds and with different points of view could come together in pursuit of common goals and to enrich each other. It is no longer that place. Attitudes like the one above appear to be dominant now.

    I clearly do not belong here at Avalon any longer, so I will bid you all a final adieu. I wish you all the best in your search for truth. Thank you Bill for your wonderful contributions to the greater body of knowledge.

    May all beings be free from suffering. May all beings be at peace.

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    Peace is not a one way street. You can't have it on one sided terms....I'm new here and don't post much, but go well and I hope you find peace.

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    Whiskey_Mystic, I wish you could stay. There are few of us old timers left, you will be missed very much. Please take care and perhaps pop in every once in awhile too visit.
    warmest regards,
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    Quote Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)
    From the Thread: Anti-Trump Riots Erupt in the Bay Area

    Quote Posted by Althena (here)
    I grew up there, it's always been brain dead liberals living in the Bay, total waste of flesh.
    I just checked back into Avalon after years away. Comments like the one above are why I no longer frequent the site. It is easier to put labels on people and objectify them than to try to understand their perspective. But it is disappointing. Avalon was once a place where people from different backgrounds and with different points of view could come together in pursuit of common goals and to enrich each other. It is no longer that place. Attitudes like the one above appear to be dominant now.

    I clearly do not belong here at Avalon any longer, so I will bid you all a final adieu. I wish you all the best in your search for truth. Thank you Bill for your wonderful contributions to the greater body of knowledge.

    May all beings be free from suffering. May all beings be at peace.
    Unfortunately I agree, at least in part, and there have several time I have felt like leaving--however the spiritual section is alive and well and that keeps me here.
    Its the blanket statements that get me--one or two of a certain --any persuasion, give the rest of that group a bad name and in the eyes of the poster--they are all bad guys---come on!!!!

    Not a great deal of evidence, many assumptions. as in "Everybody knows this is true" kind of attitude.

    I wish you well Whiskey Mystic
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    Thank you, Chris and Crosby. I will indeed miss our talks.

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    Default Re: Not Quite Farewell

    Quote Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)
    From the Thread: Anti-Trump Riots Erupt in the Bay Area

    Quote Posted by Althena (here)
    I grew up there, it's always been brain dead liberals living in the Bay, total waste of flesh.
    I just checked back into Avalon after years away. Comments like the one above are why I no longer frequent the site. It is easier to put labels on people and objectify them than to try to understand their perspective. But it is disappointing. Avalon was once a place where people from different backgrounds and with different points of view could come together in pursuit of common goals and to enrich each other. It is no longer that place. Attitudes like the one above appear to be dominant now.

    I clearly do not belong here at Avalon any longer, so I will bid you all a final adieu. I wish you all the best in your search for truth. Thank you Bill for your wonderful contributions to the greater body of knowledge.

    May all beings be free from suffering. May all beings be at peace.
    Did you send us a report (/!\)?

    Did you try to curb such tendency directly on thread? Via PMs asking the author to edit the offending post?

    Quitting won't alleviate the issue, just help it go unchecked and spread wider.
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    Whiskey Mystic please do not let one user change your perception of Avalon. I too have concerns about that users posts...
    I for one will join in with anyone, I don't care what color you are as long as you want to change this miserable condition that exists on this Earth - Malcolm X / Tsar Of The Star

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    Quite a few try to balance the extremes--point to middle ground--however its a members right to post what they feel needs to be posted and thats ok as long as its within the forum guidelines.

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    Avalon can be a bit tabloid/populist at times. And sometimes I think it would be nice if there could be fewer threads in more depth instead of so many. I don't have the time to check up on hardly any of them.

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    Another case of cherry picking out the crap and ignoring all of the good stuff... =/

    Comments like those, I just ignore...

    Farewell I suppose, but hopefully not forever

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    Default Re: Not Quite Farewell

    Yes there is a lot of GOOD INFORMATION here on Avalon! its good to speak to others who give a different perspective on your own views. Sometimes we do get hurt by people's comments, Bill told me ~ "Do like a man did 2000 years ago and turn the other cheek" but if you feel like you can stand up for yourself..by all means do so!

    Good luck anyway Whiskey_Mystic.

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    Quote Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)
    From the Thread: Anti-Trump Riots Erupt in the Bay Area

    Quote Posted by Althena (here)
    I grew up there, it's always been brain dead liberals living in the Bay, total waste of flesh.
    I just checked back into Avalon after years away. Comments like the one above are why I no longer frequent the site. It is easier to put labels on people and objectify them than to try to understand their perspective. But it is disappointing. Avalon was once a place where people from different backgrounds and with different points of view could come together in pursuit of common goals and to enrich each other. It is no longer that place. Attitudes like the one above appear to be dominant now.

    I clearly do not belong here at Avalon any longer, so I will bid you all a final adieu. I wish you all the best in your search for truth. Thank you Bill for your wonderful contributions to the greater body of knowledge.

    May all beings be free from suffering. May all beings be at peace.

    I've long been a fan of your posts Whiskey, short to the point and I dare say eloquent.
    I feel the root complaint of your post is a political one, and though you do not out and say it, I sense your personal political sensibilities have been offended in some manner.


    All I can say is, if you are a Hillary supporter don't let the door hit you in the a$$ on your way out.


    I kid I kid, I swear to God I'm kidding.

    Dude I'm totally kidding.
    I understand what you are going through, dude I used to defend Obama right after he was elected, and argue with folks and on and on and on.
    It takes some time and some work to realize party politics are a lie and the main stream media have been playing us for fools. Never before has it been so apparent as in the last election.
    Trump seems to most of us to not be an entrenched tool of this mechanism and as such not the lesser of two evils, but a gift from God in so much that he may buck the system.
    Some folks here take it for granted that everyone here has gone through a process and as such has come to these same sentiments. Some folks feel they can say things as Althena did in the quote you provided, and we should not allow our selves to make generalizations such as this considering we all ripen and or shake our chains of mental bondage at differing points in time.


    Much love to you Whiskey.
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    @Whisky-Mystic

    if you choose to leave this forum have you found another forum/something better where you can voice your opinions?-

    please let us know-

    please continue to be well-

    Larry

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    I think the issue was a comment relegating an entire subset of people to the garbage bin with a blanket statement. Whether or not Althena made the comment based on election passions is unknown, and his raison d'etre is irrelevant anyhoo.

    Whether election related or not, such comments are not acceptable on Avalon, and we should have done something sooner.

    Apologies...

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    There are comments made about faith and other hot button issues that came up before. Fortunately our forum allowed people to say things and yet other members may not have agreed. It reminds me of the new attack on fake news. TPTB want to stifle the alternative news media by saying it's fake. Hopefully we as a people can continue to allow opposite views expressed and share our differing view.

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    The "truther community" is full of right wingers, especially in the US. Not just on this forum, but on every conspiracy related forum. Most of these folks used to listen to Rush Slimebaugh and Fox Snooze and then they discovered Alex Jones and David Icke and think they "woke up", not realizing that they are still carrying around much of their programming and biases from before. This has become abundantly clear to me. Right now we have people rooting for our new authoritarian white nationalist coddling President-Elect because Alex Jones told them he is anti-NWO. You can leave this forum, but it's unlikely that you'll be able to escape this state of affairs. It's gonna take a lot of whiskey and mysticism to insulate yourself from that.
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    I was very offended at Turiya making this statement directed at me for doubting Mr Trump (I didnt report it ~ just let it ride) :

    "Having much empathy for the cry babies that are showing themselves... even on this forum. Resisting change, makes growing up a difficult & painful process...having to take on one's responsibility..that's why the bird remain's in its cage with the door wide open."

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1113796

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    I have been reactive to the liberal side, marching with feminists in Equal Rights Ammendment (ERA) parades in the 1970's. My now ex-wife, a reliable Bay Area liberal herself, married me in the 1980's, thinking I was a reliable liberal myself.

    I have been reactive to the conservative side, listening to Rush Limbaugh and Fox News, and proudly supporting the Bush Presidencies, in the 1990's (when the makings of my subsequent divorce first started taking shape.)

    However I continued to get along just fine with all my in-laws, who were almost to a person Bay Area liberals, like my wife of the time. The key was joining them in quite genuine amusement at my right-wing nut job views and tin-foil-hat conspiracies.

    In other words, allow, with genuine good humor, others their views, even including their ridicule of your views ... for there but for the grace of God and Rush go you.

    Our reactions on these emotional, partisan, levels are genuine reactions ... but these reactions are a weak foundation for judging others, or even for judging ones self.

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    I think its a mistake to put all our faith and trust into one person, when further down the line we find we were wrong about that person! and cause ourselves great embarrassment. We have to be careful when people are being smeared as well, lies can make the public not take notice of the whistleblower...when it is 'real' what they are saying.

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    Default Re: Not Quite Farewell

    Whiskey_Mystic, I hope that you can reconsider.
    Your perspective is appreciated by many here, I'm sure of that and I HAVE been missing your posts.
    hylozoic tenet: “Consciousness sleeps in the stone, dreams in the plant, awakens in the animal, and becomes self-conscious in man.”

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