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    Default Our Friend Kerrie Lea is hanging on for dear life: please do help

    I'm so glad we were able to make a difference It is frustrating to be able to heal others, but not yourself (I know from experience). It is especially frustrating to have to let go of one's ego in order to ask for help

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    Quote Posted by 7alon (here)
    It is frustrating to be able to heal others, but not yourself (I know from experience).
    There's a fascinating story reported in Michael Talbot's classic and inspiring book The Holographic Universe. (Or at least, I could have sworn it was there: I've just spent half an hour hunting for it, but so far haven't located it. Is this The Mandela Effect? )

    I'll summarize this anyway, in my own words. A group of researchers wanted to investigate the truth of accounts of miraculous healings at Lourdes.

    They discovered that extraordinary healings did occur... but, in many cases, the healings were received by those praying for a healing for someone else.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by 7alon (here)
    It is frustrating to be able to heal others, but not yourself (I know from experience).
    There's a fascinating story reported in Michael Talbot's classic and inspiring book The Holographic Universe. (Or at least, I could have sworn it was there: I've just spent half an hour hunting for it, but so far haven't located it. Is this The Mandela Effect? )

    I'll summarize this anyway, in my own words. A group of researchers wanted to investigate the truth of accounts of miraculous healings at Lourdes.

    They discovered that extraordinary healings did occur... but, in many cases, the healings were received by those praying for a healing for someone else.
    You triggered my curiosity by mentioning the mandela effect, just had to look for it.

    Check page 107 "The beliefs embodied in our faiths", is that it?

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    It is frustrating to be able to heal others, but not yourself (I know from experience).
    There's a fascinating story reported in Michael Talbot's classic and inspiring book The Holographic Universe. (Or at least, I could have sworn it was there: I've just spent half an hour hunting for it, but so far haven't located it. Is this The Mandela Effect? )

    I'll summarize this anyway, in my own words. A group of researchers wanted to investigate the truth of accounts of miraculous healings at Lourdes.

    They discovered that extraordinary healings did occur... but, in many cases, the healings were received by those praying for a healing for someone else.
    You triggered my curiosity by mentioning the mandela effect, just had to look for it.

    Check page 107 "The beliefs embodied in our faiths", is that it?
    Thx, but no, not that bit! I read that this morning. It's about half a page, about research findings among those who had been blessed with healings at Lourdes, and I cannot find it AT ALL.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Thx, but no, not that bit! I read that this morning. It's about half a page, about research findings among those who had been blessed with healings at Lourdes, and I cannot find it AT ALL.
    Journal of the History of Medicine and Allied Sciences - The Lourdes Medical Cures Revisited

    “The individual who is cured is not the one
    who prays for himself but the one who prays for others,..."


    RunningDeer thinking out loud (highlighted on chart): Interesting to note is the difference between males and females from Table 1: “Analysis of Patients Allegedly Cured in Lourdes, 1909–14”. In general, receptivity vs. logical processes.


    CONCLUSIONS - snippet

    The least that can be stated is that exposures to Lourdes and its representations (Lourdes water, mental images, replicas of the grotto, etc.), in a context of prayer, have induced exceptional, usually instantaneous, symptomatic, and at best physical, cures of widely different diseases. Although what follows is regarded by some as a hackneyed concept, any and all scholars of Lourdes have come to agree with one of two equally acceptable—but seemingly conflicting and irreconcilable—points of view on the core issue: are the Lourdes cures a matter of divine intervention or not? Faith is set against science.

    For lay people who take a leap of faith and are ready to believe “what is most contrary to custom and experience,”54 Lourdes is a privileged place of divine action through the Virgin Mary's intercession, and a prominent healing space in a growing pattern of the cult of Mary. The Lourdes cures have now shrunk to a trickle and the Lourdes mystique may have lost some of its momentum. It has been suggested that today's pilgrims as a whole have little in common with nineteenth-century believers who, after a long and feverish wait, “incubation and contagion” (Charcot), were moved with enthusiasm, reverence, and powerful emotions. Years have passed and the sanctuary's followers are not quite the same, but the Lourdes appeal endures. Numerous astounding cures have been attended by hundreds of honorable physicians and thousands of witnesses. These are facts that cannot be ignored. Prayer is the fulcrum of the Lourdes cure, the essential condition for a miracle to occur. “The individual who is cured is not the one who prays for himself but the one who prays for others, a strong form of asceticism and self abnegation … the believer surrenders himself to God and asks for his grace.”55 “Do I believe in miracles?” Jacalyn Duffin, physician and medical historian, asks, “after years of hesitating, now I answer comfortably, ‘Yes, I do.’ It is a historian's belief and it challenges my medical identity.”56...
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    Default Our Friend Kerrie Lea is hanging on for dear life: please do help

    Other interesting snippets from article:

    “The mediated miracles unfolded in the same way as the Lourdes cures: frequent exacerbation of symptoms just before the cure, extraordinary speed of recovery, hunger, and perception of well-being.”

    We also suspect that declaration of miracles by the Catholic Church froze the situation and discouraged further observation and follow-up of the miraculés."

    RunningDeer thinking out loud - It’s not in the best interest of the church for folks to discover they are their own caretakers and healers. It’s not magic nor science. It’s who we are but altered to prevent normal heath/healing. Once we learn this and change it up deep within our core, bones, muscles, cellular levels...it’s game over for the controllers.

    paragraph continues: "We owe to Mangiapan the only retrospective study of the 1947–76 Lourdes cures.45 For want of an extended follow-up, we looked for survival times. Thirteen patients out of twenty-five (Tables 3 and 4) died nineteen to fifty-seven years after the cure and without relapse of the disease. For nine subjects living in 2008, the time elapsed since the cure was ten to fifty-four years. Considering the lengthy observation periods, it may be claimed that four cases of tuberculosis were actually cured. This series provides three examples of multiple sclerosis with remissions of at least forty-year duration, synonymous with cure; the speed with which the cures occurred is impressive and without known equivalent.46 Two of the most recent cases (No. 23, 25) are related to osteosarcoma and this diagnosis seems beyond dispute. The first of these two cases (MIC, No. 23) epitomizes a Lourdes cure."
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    Default Our Friend Kerrie Lea is hanging on for dear life: please do help

    The new total is $3,629. Also updated @ post #2.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by 7alon (here)
    It is frustrating to be able to heal others, but not yourself (I know from experience).
    There's a fascinating story reported in Michael Talbot's classic and inspiring book The Holographic Universe. (Or at least, I could have sworn it was there: I've just spent half an hour hunting for it, but so far haven't located it. Is this The Mandela Effect? )

    I'll summarize this anyway, in my own words. A group of researchers wanted to investigate the truth of accounts of miraculous healings at Lourdes.

    They discovered that extraordinary healings did occur... but, in many cases, the healings were received by those praying for a healing for someone else.
    Fascinating indeed

    Hey Kerrie Lea, maybe we can heal each other

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    Thank you for giving us the opportunity to help.

    Love and blessings to Kerrie Lea from my family and I. <3
    Never give up on your silly, silly dreams.

    You mustn't be afraid to dream a little BIGGER, darling.

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    Default Our Friend Kerrie Lea is hanging on for dear life: please do help

    Hoping and praying for a healing. I would send money but I don't have a Paypal account and don't know if I can open one. I will try tomorrow.

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    I am so ashamed not to be able to offer anything, I have less than $30 till the end of this month. . . I will say mantras for you that have worked for me in the past when I was in financial need; may all Good come to you.

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    Quote Posted by kirolak (here)
    I am so ashamed not to be able to offer anything, I have less than $30 till the end of this month. . . I will say mantras for you that have worked for me in the past when I was in financial need; may all Good come to you.
    No need for shame, you aren't judged here for that kind of thing. Kind words and loving intent is priceless when it comes from the heart.

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    Quote Posted by 7alon (here)
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    I am so ashamed not to be able to offer anything, I have less than $30 till the end of this month. . . I will say mantras for you that have worked for me in the past when I was in financial need; may all Good come to you.
    No need for shame, you aren't judged here for that kind of thing. Kind words and loving intent is priceless when it comes from the heart.
    I could not have said it better!

    Thank you all for your love and support - in whatever form it comes to me. I am eternally grateful.

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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    Hoping and praying for a healing. I would send money but I don't have a Paypal account and don't know if I can open one. I will try tomorrow.
    Thank you!! A non-PayPal alternative is
    A general update: thanks to this wonderful response from the community, Kerrie now has a really great head start on the funds needed. The exact amount isn't known yet, as there are still a lot of variables, and a good surgeon needs to see her in front of him to make all the clinical assessments.

    In 24 hours or so, Kerrie may know a lot more about whether she can get this done in Costa Rica rather than Israel. If so, that'd be far better — for a host of reasons, including being cheaper.
    Quote Posted by Ulli, on the Here and How thread (here)
    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    Please check out this thread: Our Friend Kerrie Lea Is Dying
    ..........Thanks ♡
    I'm back in Barbados, and just skyped my husband the details of Kerrielea's case. He is in Costa Rica and is seeing his surgeon on Monday afternoon. This Dr. Castro is a brilliant orthopedic surgeon and traumatologist, and implanted my husband's wrist with two pieces of titanium.
    He will mention Kerrielea's case to him, to assess her chances. Costa Rica is a lot nearer to Oregon than Israel and has some great doctors.
    ***
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    I am so ashamed not to be able to offer anything, I have less than $30 till the end of this month. . . I will say mantras for you that have worked for me in the past when I was in financial need; may all Good come to you.
    No need for shame, you aren't judged here for that kind of thing. Kind words and loving intent is priceless when it comes from the heart.
    Amen to that, and most perfectly said.

    The 'hard', often money-focused 'real world' is important for us all, for every practical reason... but the invisible world is just as real, if not way more so.
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    Avalon at its finest here methinks. My thoughts are with you kerrielea, ofering support.

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    Dear Kerrie Lea,

    Apologies!

    Today I received notice from PayPal that my donation had not gone through because PayPal had an expired card information on my account. It's been so long since I've used it that I'd forgotten to notify them.

    I just updated my new credit card info so the donation should finally go through.

    With healing thoughts,

    Daughter of Time

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    Default Our Friend Kerrie Lea is hanging on for dear life: please do help

    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    Hoping and praying for a healing. I would send money but I don't have a Paypal account and don't know if I can open one. I will try tomorrow.
    Many thanks, AutumnW.

    If you have a credit card, you can donate without having a Paypal account. That may make it easier if you prefer not to open one.

    Also, anyone can send a check by snail mail -- just let me know and I'll send you Kerrie's address.

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    I am so ashamed not to be able to offer anything, I have less than $30 till the end of this month. . . I will say mantras for you that have worked for me in the past when I was in financial need; may all Good come to you.
    Quote Posted by 7alon
    No need for shame, you aren't judged here for that kind of thing. Kind words and loving intent is priceless when it comes from the heart.
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    Amen to that, and most perfectly said.
    The 'hard', often money-focused 'real world' is important for us all, for every practical reason... but the invisible world is just as real, if not way more so.
    Double amen!
    Last edited by Marianne; 13th December 2016 at 06:19.

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    Default Our Friend Kerrie Lea is hanging on for dear life: please do help

    Maybe Bill's friend George Greene can help financially. George are you watching? Please HELP!

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    Default Our Friend Kerrie Lea is hanging on for dear life: please do help

    Have just donated what I can. Dearest Kerri Lea, stay strong, know that we hold you in our hearts and know, for sure, that you will be well soon.

    With love and many blessings.

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