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    Hello Everyone:
    There is alot of information in this documentary but the part about Bikini Island really struck a chord about their fate.
    This documentary will make anyone sick with the lack of humanity shown to these people and their families from Bikini Island. It took GreenPeace to finally take these people to safety!
    Another nail in the history of experiments on people that went on for decades.
    Please watch this documentary to get the TRUTH.
    Thank you
    chancy

    The documentary is:

    The Coming War on China (2016) watch online

    Trailer:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3hbtM_NJ0s

    Website:
    http://thecomingwarmovie.com/

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    ‘The Coming War on China’ John Pilger on his newest film (Going Underground)



    Published on 6 Dec 2016

    Afshin Rattansi speaks to award winning journalist and filmmaker
    John Pilger about his newest film, 'The Coming War on China'.
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    Default Re: The Coming War on China (2016) Documentary by John Pilger

    The US owes trillions of $'s to China a good way to cut this debt is to go to war with
    your debtor a time old tradition. I don't know if this is feasible with China a nuclear
    power ? depends how far the US takes this game of military brinkmanship.

    In a mad , mad, mad, mad world it is a little disconcerting that Donald has
    appointed Gen 'mad Dog' Mattis and other military advisers in a time of so
    much tension. Generals , Admirals , Air Marshals need wars or the threat of
    it to exist and the US still has the largest military and military ind complex
    on the planet. So this could escalate from 'bluff' to missile strikes, only time
    will tell

    We dodged the WW 111 Hillary bullet in Syria, but will the Donald get drawn into
    China ?





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    John Pilger World War III Is Already Under Way



    ? Oct/Nov 2016
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    Default Re: The Coming War on China (2016) Documentary by John Pilger

    Quote Posted by chancy (here)
    Hello Everyone:
    There is alot of information in this documentary but the part about Bikini Island really struck a chord about their fate.
    This documentary will make anyone sick with the lack of humanity shown to these people and their families from Bikini Island. It took GreenPeace to finally take these people to safety!
    Another nail in the history of experiments on people that went on for decades.
    Please watch this documentary to get the TRUTH.
    Thank you
    chancy

    The documentary is:

    The Coming War on China (2016) watch online

    Trailer:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3hbtM_NJ0s

    Website:
    http://thecomingwarmovie.com/
    "Greenpeace is the largest environmental activist organization in the world with offices in 40 countries and annual revenue topping $368 million."

    If it is that big it is funded by those who got the bucks. And yes its the hero/savior as usual.

    "World war 3 is underway" jhon pilger

    Ever so often comes a documentary that normally carries fear porn that never come to fruition. Just the other day I read here on avalon that the antartic ice are melting and is suppose to cause massive destruction everywhere on the planet. seems to me fear porn is the norm here nowadays.

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    Quote seems to me fear porn is the norm here nowadays.
    Fear porn is what drives the military ind complex's without it they would
    be out of business. So these escalations which have always happened are
    sometimes difficult to predict. I do not see WW 111 happening in the near
    future , but you cannot rule it out either. Mistakes can happen and there
    will be more proxy wars , which again have always gone on somewhere
    in the world. I did read somewhere years ago there has never been a year
    in recorded history that there has not been a conflict somewhere on the globe.

    So it is either a human instinct ? or we have been manipulated for eons ?

    I look at these subjects in the context we are eternal entities experiencing
    this reality , which opens up a different set of possibilities , is this just a
    plane we experience the physical with all that brings. But if someone has
    been tampering with the programme of the matrix this experience may
    be set on the wrong settings so to speak. Then of course many have a
    positive stay and are reluctant to pass back to the other side and have
    to be pushed with war , disease , aging etc....

    Its obviously a complex debate depending on your views and circumstances
    of your visit to this intergalactic theme park. You can go in many directions
    and contradictions from here , but what most see is the inequality and why
    the vast majority of humanity are here on a economy ticket , some ride
    business or first class and a select few have a private transportation.

    I wonder whether I should bother with these topics and go back down
    the pub with my mates re join carnival and have fun with a different
    mind set and there is nothing wrong with that if that's what you want
    and the control mechanisms of 'mind control' have been doing setting
    this up for ever . The problem is once you go deeper down the rabbit
    hole a whole new world opens up and connects many dots with topics
    on the surface do not seem related. Anyway enough of my ramblings...

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    David explains it far better than me.....


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    WeAreChange.nl interviewed David Icke during his World Wide Wake Up Tour in
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    In this interview we focus on the effects of AI on our daily lives and the near future.
    We discuss the role and strategy of governments and organizations promoting
    Artificial Intelligence. Trans humanism , Archons and more...
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    Default Re: The Coming War on China (2016) Documentary by John Pilger

    So that was the reason "we" were leaving by ships in my vision in 1998. I saw a "i'll not print/text/name"cloud ON FL.(AIalecPickingUp on phrases on sites) Someone near to me, in a dimly lit wide windowed room said: "Aren't you glad you're not there?" I was watching jaw open at the rising cloud of fire.
    I'm gonna miss you guys when all this comes to pass, we clearly have reached that point of "no turning back" by NeoExecutiveOrganizedCrimeOnNationsSyndicate aka greed without boundaries Neocons of 911 and Iraq oil seizure.

    You know they're gonna shut all dissadents down? Sites down that oppose? If they can't fire you for not complying, they will label you or take your site down. Sometimes the only reason they allow a site to continue is they either own it, or need more info on those who visit the sites to view...

    Either way PA has been home to me. I just would like to somehow keep touch should shtf, but I imagine everyone will be too busy trying to survive what is surely coming with galactic cycles or "orbital heavenly bodies we are now seeing.
    A fifth being now coming according to "word ots." How we accept this in truth? IDK, it's in His hands now, the American people of peace are powerless in this conquest of remaining resources, and ancient relics/treasures buried beneath the...(surprise) axis of evil nations going back thousands of years. To me and to sum it all up: "It appears the remnant that survived previous cataclysms made sure the future generations "knew of the celestial cycles and Kings, priests and leaders were charged with passing this info on to ensure some survival.
    These greedy people plan to secretly allow it to unfold(non-interference) to have the wealth and power over whoever is left. (if there's some left?
    Such evil plotting really deserves God to straighten it "all" out.
    Jmo.
    When leaders have not a thought of Godly morals, just money and oppressive power.

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    Quote You know they're gonna shut all dissadents down? Sites down that oppose?

    The Media Empire and their owners and puppets are striking back...


    Clinton to Congress: Take action against ‘epidemic of fake news’
    By David on 9 December 2016 GMT

    Clinton to Congress: Take action against ‘epidemic of fake news’

    Fri Dec 9, 2016 12:29AM

    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2016/1...inst-fake-news


    AJ Responds To Steven Colbert NPR and the rest of the Fake News
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_0xft-Q748
    Published on 8 Dec 2016

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    Another David Icke interview I just listened from 2009 sums all this up...

    The world is waking up....
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1119227

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    Default Re: The Coming War on China (2016) Documentary by John Pilger

    I just spent an hour to make a "something" to get you to watch this film, but my puter napped me, and I have to start all over again grrr.

    just watch it plz, you wo'nt regret it. Thanks to John Pilger one of the greatest truthfull journalists still allive


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    Default Re: The Coming War on China (2016) Documentary by John Pilger

    Thank you rawhide, your efforts are very much appreciated.
    Pilger is an astute researcher and an articulate guide through the dirt.

    I would urge all members and guests who click on this thread to watch this film
    and the many others that John Pilger has made over the decades.

    Wherever there are horrendous abuses being committed and exploitation being too easily varnished by propaganda,
    Pilger strips the perpetrators bare and it is seismic.

    Do watch.

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    Default Re: The Coming War on China (2016) Documentary by John Pilger

    Two hours?! I'm going to need at least a brief summary before I can determine or not spend that time. That said, sorry for your loss Rawhide, I know the frustration well.
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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    Not watched it yet but the Chinese have this over US sea dominance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DF-21#DF-21D

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    Default Re: The Coming War on China (2016) Documentary by John Pilger

    I can assure you that you will only need ten minutes to convince you to watch the whole film.

    Brief summary:

    U.S detonating the equivalent of one Hiroshima nuclear bomb on the Marshal Islands every day for 12 years.
    U.S sending Marshal Islanders back to live there when their own nuclear agencies rated the islands the most contaminated land on earth.
    U.S nuclear scientists stating that the Marshal Islanders have and will continue to provide excellent data on radiation and its devastating effects on the human body.
    U.S personnel working on Ronald Reagan missile testing island where there are amenities such as golf courses and a fully equipped hospital while 12,000 Marshal islanders
    are overcrowded on an adjacent island with no sanitation or access to medicines. Workers are ferried over each day to work for the missile base, watering the golf-courses,
    clearing rubbish, waiting tables, and are then ferried back to squalor each night.. Apartheid in the Pacific.

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    Default Re: The Coming War on China (2016) Documentary by John Pilger

    A brief informational footnote: I looked it up because I was curious.

    The film was published on December 5, 2016, nearly 17 months ago. That's NOT to say that much of it may not be relevant, and I've only just started watching it. And John Pilger is one of the very greatest journalists. But it wasn't published this year.
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    If anyone want's a brief brief summary before spending 2 hours of their life watching this film. Just watch the first minute of it. just 1 minute.
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    Default Re: The Coming War on China (2016) Documentary by John Pilger

    The sheer fact it is John Pilger should be enough to persuade anyone that it is worth watching or listening to. The guy doesn't do 'boring'.

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    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    Two hours?! I'm going to need at least a brief summary before I can determine or not spend that time. That said, sorry for your loss Rawhide, I know the frustration well.
    Here is one comprehensive review:
    https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com...t-documentary/

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    Quote Posted by dynamo (here)
    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    Two hours?! I'm going to need at least a brief summary before I can determine or not spend that time. That said, sorry for your loss Rawhide, I know the frustration well.
    Here is one comprehensive review:
    https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com...t-documentary/
    The concluding statements from the above review:
    ”There was a real opportunity here to educate viewers about economic issues relevant to the film’s thesis that the US is provoking China to war, but unfortunately it was missed. There is no discussion of US dollar hegemony, China’s holding of over $1 trillion in US debt, the trade balance between the two countries, China’s gold holdings and moves to develop independence from the global dollar system, etc. The viewer could have greatly benefited from understanding how economic issues factor into the equation, and especially understanding that the primary reason China is viewed as a menace by US policymakers is due to its threat to US dollar hegemony, but the discussion is unfortunately kept to the superficial characterizations of the free market as somehow inherently evil.

    The Coming War on China falls short in this important respect, but should still be watched by anyone concerned about growing tensions between the US and China. While it fails to educate about relevant economic matters, it does do an excellent job of putting the American denunciations of China’s aggression in the South China Sea into perspective by exposing the extraordinary and seemingly limitless hypocrisy of the US government, the greatest threat to peace the world has ever known.”

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    Default Re: The Coming War on China (2016) Documentary by John Pilger

    Quote Posted by Rawhide68 (here)
    If anyone want's a brief brief summary before spending 2 hours of their life watching this film. Just watch the first minute of it. just 1 minute.
    The first minute contains a bunch of powerful black and white still images that are very moving.

    I did watch the whole thing. And yes, I love John Pilger, and will always absorb anything he does.

    But Pilger's focus is always on injustice, iniquity, abuse of power, and political dishonesty. That was really what this film was 80% about.

    The first 40 minutes were about the harsh and unjust radiation effects on the Marshall Islanders after the Bikini bomb tests in the 40s, and how the islanders were treated as little more than experimental animals. Archive film was shown where the citizens there were described as 'savages'.

    He went on to cover the injustice of the forced 'apartheid' at Kwajalein, and the Japanese protests about the US military base in Okinawa (in Japan: nothing to do with China). The links to China consisted of occasional mention that the missiles there were all aimed that way.

    The most interesting segment of the film for me was the revelation, from a retired military witness, that back in 1962 (at the time of the Cuban missile crisis) a rogue military major in Okinawa had ordered a full-on nuclear missile strike on China. The missiles were armed, prepared for launch, and were about to be fired.

    Sensing something was wrong, the duty officer (who has to be some kind of hero!) suspected the order was false. He ordered two men to shoot anyone who tried to execute the launch, and ran to the command center, less than a minute away.

    Sure enough, the launch command was bogus, and a stand-down was ordered — just in time. Jeez. The major who had given the order was court-martialed and dismissed from the Air Force.

    The witness, John Bordne, said: "We just kind of looked at each other. We could have exterminated the whole planet."

    Go straight to 1:20:30 for that extremely fascinating testimony, just 3 minutes long. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. I believe that's the first time that's ever been made public. Pilger had never heard about it.

    Jeez, once again.

    But in my view, this film is NOT principally about "the coming war on China". It's really about US military hegemony in general, and the local social injustice that the US always leaves in its wake. But Pilger, as always, is excellent.

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    Default Re: The Coming War on China (2016) Documentary by John Pilger

    Probably Mr Pilger had this in mind ( It's really about US military hegemony in general ), having to name the film to something more dramatic

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    Default Re: The Coming War on China (2016) Documentary by John Pilger

    excellent doco, saw it a while ago.
    there is another doco called- 1983 - The Brink of Apocalypse.
    well worth watching also.

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