The great wall

[Wide-Eyed]

Nailed it Running Deer! Thank you

[Wide-Eyed]

Posted by Wide-Eyed (here)
Nailed it Running Deer! Thank you

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=muw22wTePqQ

Above is a link to YouTube video: Immigration by the Numbers by Roy Beck

Also by Roy Beck is his Iimmigration Gum balls Part2 :

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4DFPKNdYFkE

If not loaded it's my fault most likely, however , please try their web site Running Deer has listed in her post . This should be a thread of its own IMHO. Thread : "IMMIGRATION by THE NUMBERS , what is OUR moral choice?"

[Chester]

For those who enjoyed post #74... Canada and Immigration, both legal and illegal on the previous page, you might also appreciate some recent news from Reuters -...

But first - a reminder of a recent tweet from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau -

“To those fleeing persecution, terror & war, Canadians will welcome you, regardless of your faith. Diversity is our strength #WelcomeToCanada,”

Tweeted January 28, 2017

Now back to this Reuter's piece published on March 16, 2017

In Trump era, some Mexican migrants head north - to Canada

The article describes what they face when they "head north to Canada."

Canada recently "shelved" the visa requirement. All you need to get in is an eTA (Electronic Travel Authorization form).

But not so fast... this is meant for tourists. And if you overstay (I think the limit is six months) you are now illegal. Also, under an eTA you do not have permission to work. Bummer. Thanks Justin... ohhh and to get that permission, you must be sponsored by your employer. Good luck with that. Ohhh and to be considered for a work permit, you must bring special skills or skills not easily available to find in Canada. Hummmm. In fact, showing up with the eTA (just like a US Visa) does not guarantee you will be allowed entry - another bummer.

Many Mexicans believe the eTA is all they need to set up in Canada, but in almost all cases they are wrong, immigration lawyers said. The eTA does not even guarantee entry.

Even if they get past the airport, many low-skilled Mexicans hoping to work illegally are likely to be disappointed, lawyers said, noting that it's difficult for those entering on tourist visas to get work permits without an employer's sponsorship.

Some Mexican visitors told Reuters that Canadian immigration officials went through their phones and asked tough questions designed to trip up those seeking to stay and work illegally. While some got through, others were sent home.

Canada says those convicted of crimes, as well as gang members, are inadmissible, making it hard for criminally convicted Mexicans deported from the United States to enter.

Some 313 Mexicans with eTAs were denied access to Canada in January, according to official Canadian data obtained by Reuters, more than the total number rejected each year in 2012, 2013 and 2014. (For a graphic on the number of Mexicans blocked from entering Canada

Here's an example -

Alejandro Becerra's experience is a cautionary tale for Mexicans dreaming of a new life in Canada.

The 30-year-old former bankteller from Mexico City got a job offer to work in construction in Toronto and flew to the city on Feb. 7 on an eTA.

Becerra told a border official at the airport that he was coming as a tourist and showed him his return flight. The official didn't believe him and examined his phone, where he found messages discussing Becerra's job in Toronto.

Becerra spent the night in a detention center, and the next morning he was taken in handcuffs to a plane that would return him to Mexico.

Sounds like the tactics the SS would use. Did Justin grow a toothbrush mustache?

[A Voice from the Mountains]

I'm actually not averse to sending all of the illegal immigrants here to Canada. Millions and millions of them. Send them all up there.

When Canada becomes a failed state in 10 years maybe it can serve as a powerful example to the rest of the world of the stupidity of modern-day radical leftism. Not even Bill Clinton the 1990s thought this insanity was a good idea, or even Obama in 2008. All of them spoke of the need to prevent illegal immigration. It's amazing what less than 10 years of socialist propaganda can do to certain peoples' minds.

Good luck Canada! Let's talk about that "strength" of yours in a decade.

[Chester]

And this just in - Canada has detained 444 Mexicans trying to cross their border into Canada... and this is in the first 67 days of 2017.

Note that a total of 410 were detained in all of 2016.

It will be interesting to see what Canada has done and will do with those they have and are detaining.

[Kristin]

Posted by Sam Hunter (here)
And this just in - Canada has detained 444 Mexicans trying to cross their border into Canada... and this is in the first 67 days of 2017.

Note that a total of 410 were detained in all of 2016.

It will be interesting to see what Canada has done and will do with those they have and are detaining.

Hi Sam! Usually detainment is the first step in a process of integrating (those detained) into the general population. The main question is, "Would your life or the lives of your family be in danger if we deported you back to your country of origin." This needs to be proven. If there is a no, then Canada can not grant political asylum. IF those detained can prove persecution, then they are allowed to stay in what shelter housing is available and are eventually given visa's etc and the process of residency begins. It is going to be interesting as these numbers continue to rise and the reasons for crossing to boarder expand. People are watching this closely here (Canadians). Policy may need to change. We shall see.

From the Heart,
Kris

[Chester]

Hi Kristin, apologies I could not respond until today... (life happens). I am really glad to see you post. WoW!

Anyways, I am glad you emphasized "detained" from my own post and that is why I had that same word twice. It is indeed "just a" detention while disposition is determined. What I was also glad to read is your comment -

It is going to be interesting as these numbers continue to rise and the reasons for crossing to boarder expand. People are watching this closely here (Canadians). Policy may need to change.

Compared with the US in 2016 - the numbers that can be seen from these official US DHS statistics, the Canadian 'problem' was virtually 'no problem.'

The Canadian experience of 2016 was roughly .01% of the size of the problem the US experienced in 2016.

Some of these cases surely involved bona-fide instances where the one attempting to enter into the US (or Canada) is a legitimate asylum seeker. In speaking for myself, I would hope society finds ways to help folks like that. That's an easy thing to say in such a broad way as I just stated... but where the rubber hits the road reveals that ideals such as this are far harder to accomplish effectively and safely.

I always try and speak from personal experience and here's another case.

I know two individuals. One is in the US legally and the other is in the US illegally. Both have been here for close to close to a decade or more.

Female A came to the US from Colombia. She was a professional prostitute before she arrived. She came to the US on a visitor Visa. When in the US she requested political asylum (using the notorious FARC excuse) and was granted this asylum. She continued her trade in the US to support herself. About a year after she arrived, she met a young Colombian man who had been in the US for a decade, was hard working and... married to an older woman. She enticed him into a relationship which eventually resulted in his divorce. She then emotionally enslaved him to give her all the money he earned from his hard work (he is a carpenter) while she continued her trade anyways. I know this woman personally. I do not know her through her trade. I also know that she once tried to convince my wife, a Colombian, to divorce me so my wife could get "half my estate" (an estate this woman had mistakenly grossly over-imagined). Again, this woman is in the US legally.

Female B came to the US from Colombia almost a decade or so years ago. She arrived with a visitor visa. She also brought her young daughter. She intended to remain and here's why. In Colombia, this woman had had a relationship with her daughter's father. When this woman birthed their child, the father began to demonstrate serious signs of instability which eventually resulted in violence against this woman. Because the woman had listed the father on the birth certificate, she was unable to bring the child to the US unless the father signed off on it. The father (by then estranged) agreed to sign off as long as this woman gave him her house which she agreed to sign over to him. The man had threatened to kill her many times and so she planned to come to the US and remain all and only to protect her daughter and herself. If she ever tried to return to Colombia, it is likely that she would be arrested at the border entry for "kidnapping." The charges would not be the result of her child's father reporting the act... it would be the result of the border authorities checking her passport and seeing she had not returned with the child when she was supposed to have done so many years before.

Now when you have a situation like Canada may now have with these eTAs... a few hundred cases a month, you might have a handful like I described above. Now multiply that by several thousand as this is the factor difference.

So in one example we have a situation where better vetting may have prevented Female A from being granted asylum. Another prostitute would have been subtracted from US society. A family might still be together today. A kind yet not very emotionally strong man might not be emotionally extorted for his hard earned cash.

In the other case though... we have a true "asylum" situation where the land Female B comes from does not provide adequate protection for herself or her daughter from a violent male. Who can blame her for coming to the US with the intention of remaining?


Ohhh my, what I would have done with this immigration mess if I were Trump... but that may be best left for another post.

[Chester]

Posted by Sam Hunter (here)
The cost for the wall has been secured -

Last Minute Obama Gift?

This was no "last minute gift to Obama." It was an olive branch to Trump.


U.S. Government Seeks $14 Billion In El Chapo Case

The government is seeking a $14 billion forfeiture order as part of its prosecution of the notorious Mexican drug kingpin Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman, according to a U.S. attorney in New York.

The Feds will win and will order seizure of over 14 Billion in cash and assets held by El Chapo and/or El Chapo fronts.

Trust me... the Feds always get the cash or the cash equivalent in assets no matter where it is "hidden" in the world today.

"Cha-Ching!!!"

And my idea just caught on with Ted Cruz -

Ted Cruz Calls for $14 Billion Seized from ‘El Chapo’ to Fund Border Wall

cha-ching

Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) introduced a bill calling for the use of $14 billion seized from cartel drug lord Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman to be used to pay for the President’s border wall between the U.S. and Mexico.

Senator Cruz introduced the Ensuring Lawful Collection of Hidden Assets to Provide Order (EL CHAPO) Act on Tuesday. “The U.S. Government is currently seeking the criminal forfeiture of more than $14 billion in drug proceeds and illicit profits from El Chapo, the former leader of the Sinaloa drug cartel who was recently extradited to the U.S. to face criminal prosecution for numerous alleged drug-related crimes, including conspiracy to commit murder and money laundering,” Cruz stated.