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9th January 2017 07:09
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We made this. (or Trump's Collective: Here's what happens when we get what we want)
I'm unsure how to explain the abject worship that Trump gets from us.
As far as I can tell the only loud person in conspiracy truth circles who was actively warning people not to get sucked in to the sales pitch was David Icke (still only a little though). Alex Jones seems to have made it his new religion. Many ongoing posts here at Avalon the same.
How much effort was spent dismissing his actions, reinterpreting his words, excusing his behavior, and outright ignoring what he was doing. All so we could defeat the Clinton boogeyman. So many of us on any other day would say, "The ends do not justify the means," and vote a third party. Abstain. Simply refuse to join in with Stormfront, Brietbart, or hell even 4chan, and maintain our moral compass if nothing else.
We so desperately wanted (I include myself) it so badly that we cheered for the man who openly bragged that he would lie to us. We stood alongside the xenophobia, nationalism, and prejudice and thought, "But I'm not like that so it's OK. In fact, it's not real." We decided the ends justify the means.
And so we cheered. In a just world it would be only those of us who cheered who then felt the ill-effects of what we wanted. But our world is not yet just.
We feared that, upon Clinton's win, the government would be filled with millionaire campaign donors, Goldman Sachs' flunkies, sociopath bankers/businessmen, and amoral sycophants being rewarded for loyalty. Here're the people Trump is appointing... here's what we did.
Positions Must be Confirmed by Senate
Sec. State. Rex W. Tillerson CEO of ExxonMobil
Sec. Treasury. Steven Mnuchin {,,,} Goldman Sachs partner
Dir. NEC (Nat. Econ. Coun.). Gary Cohn Goldman Sachs COO
Sec. Defense. General James Mattis breaks civilian "control" of military
Att. General (Dept. Justice). Jeff Sessions denied judgeship in 1986 for history of overt racism
Sec. Commerce. Wilbur Ross Jr. {,,,} history with Rothschild Inc.
Sec. HHS (Health & Human Serv). Tom Price offronted by the ACA, Medicare, and PP
Sec. Energy. Rick Perry pledged to eliminate the Dept. Of Energy
Sec. Education. Betsy Devos {,,,} Christian lobbyist for charter schools (privatized education)
Adm. EPA (Environ. Pro. Agency). Scott Pruitt strong ties to fossel fuels
Dir. OMB (MNGT & Budget). Mick Mulvaney, Sec. Transportation. Elaine Chao, Sec. HUD (Housing & Urban Dev). Ben Carson, SBA (Small Busniess). Linda McMahon, Chief Trade Neg. Robert Lighthizer, Dir Nat. Intel. Dan Coats, Sec. Interior. Ryan Zinke, Sec. Labor. Andrew Puzder, Amb. UN. Nikki Haley, Sec. HS (Homeland Sec). John F. Kelly
Sec. Agriculture.
Sec. Veteran's Affairs.
Selected Positions. No Senate Confirmation.
CSO (Chief Strategy). Stephen K. Bannon history at Goldman Sachs and profits from White Nationalism
NSA (Nat. Sec. Adv.). Michael Flynn outspoken Islamaphobe
White House Counsel. Donald McGahn credited as instrumental in loosening campaign finance regulations
Regulatory Czar. Carl Icahn corporate raider
Counselor to Pres. Kellyanne Conway, Chief of Staff. Reince Priebus, Senior Policy Adv. Stephen Miller, Press Secretary. Sean Spicer, Trade Czar. Peter Navarro, HSA (Homeland Sec. Adv.). Thomas P. Bossert
Notes in bold are for notable appeals/critiques. Heartrendingly the same things that appeal to some are what're repulsive to others.
{,,,} It turned out to be more efficient to only identify the billionaires or billionaire financiers. Damn near everyone is straight-up rich.
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9th January 2017 16:43
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Re: We made this. (or Trump's Collective: Here's what happens when we get what we want)
While I totally agree with your concerns about Trump's appointees, and I completely disagree with you laying the blame on Avalonians on this one. And one might conclude that you are implying it is a tragedy that we didn't get the ever so lovely Hillary Clinton instead.
Project Avalon is not the Trump cheering squad. Many of us found him preferable, or at least, no worse to Hillary. Some of us had enthusiasm for some of the issues he was raising (ending the TPP, questioning 9-11).
And as much as I will oppose and criticize the Trump Presidency, I will say that a few things seem to be going better because of him:- the TPP and the TTIP, two of the most evil corporatist scams to swindle the wealth of many great nations and stifle free market competition and human rights in favor of cronyistic multinational corporations, are probably now dead.
- the likelihood that ISIS or the Salafist "Jabhat Fateh al-Sham" will take over the country is a whole lot less likely. Perhaps Trumps presidency might have something to do with the fact that Aleppo has been liberated.
- Hard to estimate what the likelihood of a war with Iran is now, but if it happens, there will be a lot more opposition from the left than if Hillary was conducting it.
- Liberal America, that fell asleep while Obama assassinated the first American citizen without a trial, expanded drone attacks, brought about regime change in Libya, increased weapons sales to the Saudis and allowed them to bomb Yemen, etc. etc. etc. is now awake. If Bush had done any of these things there would have been great outrage . Now they might wake up again, if they can figure out what is really wrong with Trump and not get distracted by the "Pussygate" type issues.
- The politics that the American political and military machine are pursuing are aggressive, mean and nasty. Instead of a smooth talking Obama or Hillary, we have someone whose demeanor seems to match it's naked greed and mean spiritedness more closely.
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9th January 2017 16:52
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