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    Default Re: John B. Wells brilliant take on 'Flat Earthers' (PsyOp)

    You don't have to post me YouTube videos. I understand the arguments being made perfectly well. I'm just pointing out that this:



    is not actually what they are claiming the flat Earth looks like. This is:



    So it's a mischaracterization of their argument.


    I know the idea of a flat Earth sounds ridiculous but I actually took the time to understand what actual arguments these people are making. It's a little more nuanced than they often get credit for (the above mischaracterization being one example of this) but I think it's still a very stupid theory. I would rank its stupidity level around the same as Marxism. It's really stupid if you think about it, but yet it's just convincing enough that some uneducated people actually fall hard for it. I think the mocking and mischaracterization of their arguments is part of what emboldens them to continue arguing, because most people probably aren't actually even listening to them in the first place. This is why getting a real education is important, no matter where people get it from.
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    ~instant classic eXposing #FlatEarthPsyOp with humor
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    Default Re: John B. Wells brilliant take on 'Flat Earthers' (PsyOp)

     
    Here is an interesting hypothesis ...

    Perhaps the fact that most people do not travel great distances by a means that allows ones own senses and judgements give us a fully accurate view of exactly how much distance we are actually covering - which in turn would give one a sense of roughly how large the Earth actually is. Most people, especially perhaps slightly less educated ones do not travel long distances by walking or even driving then relate that to a distance covered on a map of the earth.

    How this relates: If one believes that the earth is only a few hundred miles, or perhaps a couple thousand miles across, or really has no actual concept of the size of the planet at all, then the logic so often presented for the flat earth story would actually be correct. If the distance around the earth was say 2000 miles, then for sure we would notice the curvature, that flat earth supporters say do not exist because we don't observe them. But the earth is 25,000 miles around - and so as explained and calculated in the vid Exomatrix posted above, we shouldn't be able to see these curvatures, especially when the Fresnel effect bends the light around the surface.

    Many of the flat earth "logic" would be much more correct if the earth was far smaller than we know it to be.

    Born and raised in rural Canada and moving to a neighboring province, I am fully aware that for me to drive 10 hours to visit my family in BC (just the next province over - very close by Canadian standards ) is like a teeny tiny distance on a globe or map of the earth. I have an "awareness" of how large the earth is. Maybe not having this awareness enables a person to be able to "understand" and side with some of this flat earth "logic". Rather than their brain thinking and saying ... no, that's probably not right because of scale and perspective, the might think, "Yeah, I can see how that video showed my 20 miles up and there's no curve" - nothing in their head that says "the earth is huge, let's think about the perspective first before buying that". All because (in addition to possibly just not knowing how anything actually works) they had a lack of awareness of the actual size of the earth ... a potential enabler.

    Just a thought ...
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    Default Re: John B. Wells brilliant take on 'Flat Earthers' (PsyOp)

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    No, I am not advocating the flat earth theory. The speaker lost my respect when he states that the flat earth theory is a psy-op meant to divert our discussions from really important topics like planet x.......Which of these two theories do you find more ridiculous?

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    Default Re: John B. Wells brilliant take on 'Flat Earthers' (PsyOp)

    This, from JoyCamp, is short and a lot of fun. Zany and largely ad-libbed, as always, but it has a neat point to it.


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    Default Re: John B. Wells brilliant take on 'Flat Earthers' (PsyOp)

    lol McDonald's "build-a-burger"

    That was great, Bill 😃

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    Default Re: John B. Wells brilliant take on 'Flat Earthers' (PsyOp)

    The plane in antarctica is upside down!

    Oh my good God.
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    The plane in antarctica is upside down!

    Oh my good God.
    I have to say, I do think the joke may be on the debunkers... it's really hard to think that the mathematician in the original video wasn't tongue-in-cheek, his real target being to make all Flat Earthers look worse than moronic.

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    Default Re: John B. Wells brilliant take on 'Flat Earthers' (PsyOp)

    I'm not quite so sure Bill, his original video, and its description, really does suggest that he is deadly serious about his theory. o.O

    Another video he made called 'Clear Proof the Sun does NOT light moon', is similarly daft:

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    I'm not quite so sure Bill, his original video, and its description, really does suggest that he is deadly serious about his theory. o.O

    Another video he made called 'Clear Proof the Sun does NOT light moon', is similarly daft:

    Hard to believe that Glen Hall is seriously serious on his theory. What an embarrassing mess we find ourselves in. My faith in humanities true potential is now seriously depleted.
    It was slightly heartening to see 1K thumbs up and 3K thumbs down on his video. With 6K comments.
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    Default Re: John B. Wells brilliant take on 'Flat Earthers' (PsyOp)

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    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    I'm not quite so sure Bill, his original video, and its description, really does suggest that he is deadly serious about his theory. o.O

    Another video he made called 'Clear Proof the Sun does NOT light moon', is similarly daft:

    Hard to believe that Glen Hall is seriously serious on his theory. What an embarrassing mess we find ourselves in. My faith in humanities true potential is now seriously depleted.
    It was slightly heartening to see 1K thumbs up and 3K thumbs down on his video. With 6K comments.
    It is depressing. I see 3 possible scenarios to explain the pro flat earth-type videos and the people who make them.

    1. They truly are...not at all intelligent.
    2. They don't much care what the truth is, they're just following a popular meme for the sake of it, for lols and for publicity
    3. They are being paid to do so. (to spread lies, by whatever body or agency, and for whatever reason).
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    Clif High challenges viewers to answer these 5 questions from the perspective of believing the Earth is flat.

    When in doubt, do the next right thing.
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    Default Re: John B. Wells brilliant take on 'Flat Earthers' (PsyOp)

    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    It is depressing. I see 3 possible scenarios to explain the pro flat earth-type videos and the people who make them.

    1. They truly are...not at all intelligent.
    2. They don't much care what the truth is, they're just following a popular meme for the sake of it, for lols and for publicity
    3. They are being paid to do so. (to spread lies, by whatever body or agency, and for whatever reason).
    I'll add one more category:

    4. Unwitting electromagnetic mind control assets (We are in a new age of this)


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