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    Something i have repeatedly noticed that Donald trump since assuming office talks about America and ends his speeches etc with god bless ''America'' not the Corporate definition of ''The United States of America Inc''

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...government.htm

    He has not just done this once, but as far as i can tell, every time, he has said this blessing or refers to the U.S. ,Always ''America''

    Has anyone else noticed this? Is this The new president clearly deliberately publicly signalling that he no longer recognizes the corporate entity that is Washington D.C as it seems he is clearly ranged against many wheels within wheels in that cesspit...
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    Did you notice the portraits in the oval office in most of his vids ??? Jackson, the anti federal banking president ??? and Hamilton Hidden message, the fed is on notice, Jackson was a fighter , a bit of an outsider , a hermit ... i think he is going to take on the big bank, move to sound money , and he has even brought on his own private security, i believe to watch the secret service... interesting times ...
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    One thing I feel whenever I see Trump signing documents and doing presidential business, it doesn't seem real. What I mean is its as if he sticks out like a sore thumb when standing with all the bought off crooks under him. Don't get me wrong I hope for great things but something seems off.

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    President Trump does not fit the presidential mold.

    This must be by choice, I believe. Tonight in prime time press event in the White House, he walks down hallway with his jacket unbuttoned.

    It's small but there must be staff to tell him these things.

    Granted he has always been the boss, but he certainly should know better. Frankly when he goes off script, he scares many who voted for him. His need to have the last word on a topic -- even if its days later -- is scary.

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    Theres a bit of humor to this....
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    I've been slowly watching stuff I researched on the Internet become mainstream. I woke up in 2004 after studying anti gravity research and seeing a picture of the tr3b ship which I witnessed flying in 1998. Ever since than I've been waking up more and noticing my reality shift towards to where conspiracy becomes mainstream. Trump winning is the biggest red flag I've seen pointing to society as a whole is waking up. The snowball effect of awakening is unstoppable know the only question is whether will we hit critical mass. My theory is trump may be the vehicle to break the dam holding back society from awakening. Everyone knows than when a damn gets cracked it is only a matter of time before it breaks. I think trump may be that Crack in the damn.

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    Wow. Personally, I think you people are reading WAY too much into things. It is going to be an interesting ride watch you people get suckered in much the same way the left did with Obama.

    Trump is selling the right what Obama sold the left just reBranded as MAGA instead of Hope.

    You people have bought into this nonsense hook, line, and sinker. Trump is still drone striking people like Obama. He is not talking about stopping our occupation of TWO countries. Snowden happened and Did the NSA get stopped? NO. Is trump stopping them? No. the NSA is still violating your 4th amendment rights. but MAGA amirite?

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-cia...rorism/5571722 This is a very interesting article that articulates many of my criticisms of any president, currently Trump but the brand doesnt matter, that doesnt tackle the real issues.

    I will gladly eat crow if the President does any of the following:

    1. Publicly reveal the Secret Space Program
    2. Publicly Dismantle the crooked arms of the CIA
    3. Show the connection between the iNtelligence community and the murder of JFK or 911
    4. Reveal any of the hidden tech around Energy
    5. Reveal the knowledge that ET exist.
    6. Reveal the knowledge that we have met ET
    7. Reveal any information that actually changes the game or exposes the Deep State
    8. Dismantles the FED


    I was saddened and discouraged to read so many actually support the wall idea as if it is going to do anything. You want to stop illegal immigration? Stop poverty. Make mexico not a failed Narco state, Which btw connects to the crooked arm of the CIA which Trump is apparently doing DICK about. Building a wall is the answer of a child making policy, not an adult. Would you want to live in Mexico given the state of the country? What is responsible for the State of Mexico? Do you know what maquiladoras are? Do you understand who Carlos Slim is and what he does? Go listen to Catherine Austin Fitts about it and you will understand why mexico is failing and why it is kept that way.

    You know what all this stuff about Trump and the secret messages he is sending sound like to me? Hope porn. You all sound now like Benjamin Fulford and Sheldon Nidle with this interpretation of the symbols and back room dealings. I cant wait to jump into the healing chambers guys!

    Again, i will gladly eat my words if he actually make meaningful change out in the public. Until then, you are buying into the next level of deception by the Deep State. Just because one gangster group was stopped from being the capstone, doesnt mean the other gangster group that got in is good. The enemy of you enemy is not your friend. That is like saying the Zetas and Sinoala Cartel are enemies and the Sinoala Cartel are my enemy so the Zetas are my friends? Both would murder you in a heart beat to advance their agenda.

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    Outstanding post 9ofClubs. I was going to write something similar but you did it much better.

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    Quote Posted by 9ofClubs (here)
    Wow. Personally, I think you people are reading WAY too much into things. It is going to be an interesting ride watch you people get suckered in much the same way the left did with Obama.


    I will gladly eat crow if the President does any of the following:

    1. Publicly reveal the Secret Space Program
    2. Publicly Dismantle the crooked arms of the CIA
    3. Show the connection between the iNtelligence community and the murder of JFK or 911
    4. Reveal any of the hidden tech around Energy
    5. Reveal the knowledge that ET exist.
    6. Reveal the knowledge that we have met ET
    7. Reveal any information that actually changes the game or exposes the Deep State
    8. Dismantles the FED

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    I whole heartedly agree woth the above, and your observations regarding secret messages. But i feel him Using the term America and not the United states as is the norm is a very public way of saying the worm has turned.

    I personally feel the election, while still a dog and pony show to an extent, IS a crack through the fog Americans and been walking through for a very long time.

    Its a catalyst to the collective consciousness worldwide also that the way things have been done are changing and a manifestation and after effect of the energetic changes that underlay this period. It feels like a step toward the above list of things which i feel we can handle now and its time.

    I dont buy to the idea, that he is a savior, the left right paradigm is designed to sucker people into this idea on either end.
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    How about giving Trump a little time Doazen It is easy to be negative Can he at least get thru the first hundred days before you give up. Time...and positive intents would really help now.

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    Quote Posted by Desire (here)
    How about giving Trump a little time Doazen It is easy to be negative Can he at least get thru the first hundred days before you give up. Time...and positive intents would really help now.
    100 days is fair. I've already seen enough to know he's not going to do anything good, so I won't waste much energy on it. "Give him a chance" was used in the early days of Obama's reign as well, as his mask dropped, and people realized he was a fraud.
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    Quote Posted by 9ofClubs (here)
    Building a wall is the answer of a child making policy, not an adult.
    Well those children in 2006 passed the legislation (secure fence act) that will build "the wall" boarder security has always been and always will be an issue in a globe of nations.. This, like almost everything trump does; is not an issue that is new.


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    Would you want to live in Mexico given the state of the country? What is responsible for the State of Mexico? Do you know what maquiladoras are? Do you understand who Carlos Slim is and what he does? Go listen to Catherine Austin Fitts about it and you will understand why mexico is failing and why it is kept that way.
    Not sure how this is relevant; we either have laws or we do not. Are you suggesting we do not have laws?


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    Again, i will gladly eat my words if he actually make meaningful change out in the public. Until then, .
    Well, making "until then" statements when he's been in power for a week is pretty fair and balanced of you! how about reserve judgement for at least a month or so ?

    I mean, at the pace he's moving you'll have your answers soon enough, a month into the recent administrations showed us just about nothing meaningful, Trump has already made some major moves in his first weeks.

    Moving the embassy from Tehran was was a pretty telling move.. IMO.

    Why not comment on that instead of getting trapped by "the wall" (imo an obvious trump troll trap, he's had a few... )

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    I've already seen enough to know he's not going to do anything good, so I won't waste much energy on it. "Give him a chance" was used in the early days of Obama's reign as well, as his mask dropped, and people realized he was a fraud.
    Funny, I've already seen enough to be excited..

    the moves against the EPA alone are a HUGE benefit to the US, plus removing a AG that won't enforce laws is the kind of executive action I'd like to see.

    what has he done that you see as so bad?

    I don't like the obvious pandering to Israel and the obvious intentions to continue "the war" against ISIS (unless he actually means to quickly wipe them out and leave, doubt it tho).

    but other than that there's been a lot of positive things.
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    I agree with TargeT above. And Trump has gotten rid of some of the Cabal front men already. He is taking down the Cabal puppet heads of many departments .Would you rather have Hillery. the biggest swamp swimmer of all?

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    I personally agree with several points that different posters have made in this thread including 9 of Clubs,Daozen,Target, and others. Every one of you have posted something I would agree with. One point that I think is very important and must always be put in context is that the President of the United States comes and goes every 4 or 8 years. These issues and programs, especially the ones that would be included in the "black", or unrecognized section of the government go on for decades and perhaps centuries by now. These programs have become so compartmentilzed, or outsourced to the corporations and private sector that the President may never even be debriefed on these subjects. They are strictly on a "need to know" clearance. Many, many Presidents never get much more of the bigger picture than the lower levels of government. It is absolutely on record that when some Presidents inquire about some of the topics listed, they are shut down by the strict "need to know" basis that the powers that be that control these issues have made protocol in accordance with national security.
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    I gotta get offline and DO...but before I go I want to thank you all for postings here...I truly feel "the wake up call" is upon us politically AND Spiritually!!!
    .......

    I will gladly eat crow if the President does any of the following:

    1. Publicly reveal the Secret Space Program
    2. Publicly Dismantle the crooked arms of the CIA
    3. Show the connection between the iNtelligence community and the murder of JFK or 911
    4. Reveal any of the hidden tech around Energy
    5. Reveal the knowledge that ET exist.
    6. Reveal the knowledge that we have met ET
    7. Reveal any information that actually changes the game or exposes the Deep State
    8. Dismantles the FED


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    Quote Posted by 9ofClubs (here)
    Wow. Personally, I think you people are reading WAY too much into things. It is going to be an interesting ride watch you people get suckered in much the same way the left did with Obama.

    Trump is selling the right what Obama sold the left just reBranded as MAGA instead of Hope.

    You people have bought into this nonsense hook, line, and sinker. Trump is still drone striking people like Obama. He is not talking about stopping our occupation of TWO countries. Snowden happened and Did the NSA get stopped? NO. Is trump stopping them? No. the NSA is still violating your 4th amendment rights. but MAGA amirite?

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-cia...rorism/5571722 This is a very interesting article that articulates many of my criticisms of any president, currently Trump but the brand doesnt matter, that doesnt tackle the real issues.

    I will gladly eat crow if the President does any of the following:

    1. Publicly reveal the Secret Space Program
    2. Publicly Dismantle the crooked arms of the CIA
    3. Show the connection between the iNtelligence community and the murder of JFK or 911
    4. Reveal any of the hidden tech around Energy
    5. Reveal the knowledge that ET exist.
    6. Reveal the knowledge that we have met ET
    7. Reveal any information that actually changes the game or exposes the Deep State
    8. Dismantles the FED


    I was saddened and discouraged to read so many actually support the wall idea as if it is going to do anything. You want to stop illegal immigration? Stop poverty. Make mexico not a failed Narco state, Which btw connects to the crooked arm of the CIA which Trump is apparently doing DICK about. Building a wall is the answer of a child making policy, not an adult. Would you want to live in Mexico given the state of the country? What is responsible for the State of Mexico? Do you know what maquiladoras are? Do you understand who Carlos Slim is and what he does? Go listen to Catherine Austin Fitts about it and you will understand why mexico is failing and why it is kept that way.

    You know what all this stuff about Trump and the secret messages he is sending sound like to me? Hope porn. You all sound now like Benjamin Fulford and Sheldon Nidle with this interpretation of the symbols and back room dealings. I cant wait to jump into the healing chambers guys!

    Again, i will gladly eat my words if he actually make meaningful change out in the public. Until then, you are buying into the next level of deception by the Deep State. Just because one gangster group was stopped from being the capstone, doesnt mean the other gangster group that got in is good. The enemy of you enemy is not your friend. That is like saying the Zetas and Sinoala Cartel are enemies and the Sinoala Cartel are my enemy so the Zetas are my friends? Both would murder you in a heart beat to advance their agenda.


    I don't believe that most who voted for Trump see him as a savior. They voted against Clinton. That's a far cry from being Groupies for Trump. There are the contingent of "true believers" which are in every camp but I haven't seen many of them here on this board.

    I think you are misinterpreting the intense interest that many have in this election/new administration as being the reaction of naive kool-aid drinkers when they are just exhibiting interest in a bonafide new phenomena, at least compared to the last 8 years, that almost everyone is interested in, for or against. Things are volatile right now and people are trying to monitor the situation, I don't find that contemptuous.

    But when one is a perfectionist one can be derisive most of the time towards most of the people.

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    Hi Slant84 ,just wanted to add a little fact that you might be interested in. Michael G Flynn , son of General Michael T Flynn is in the alternative news media. I would not be at all surprised if he has conferred lots of the alternative news stories like the kind we listen to, ..to the Pres. Michael is working for his father under Trump. Maybe that's why when asked why Trump didn't believe the Russian Hack ,he said he had other info and other sources. I'm hoping this alternative news will open up many doors for Trump and maybe we will finally have a pres who will listen. Remember when the government told Ike he didn't have a high enough clearance to be told he could not be included in Area 51, he said he would bring in the Army if he had to .They let him in pretty fast. I believe that Trump has the same kind of courage ........Cheers

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    Thanks Desire that would be great if that happened! I didn't know that so thank you for sharing! You're absolutely right. I know Ike had the "authority" that probably carried some weight. I know Carter was denied by Bush Sr when he was head of CIA. He was explicitly told that curiosity on the part of the President was not a "need to know". Clinton was also very interested and shut down. But I hope you're right! Trump definitely has the gusto to "make things happen". Let's hope something comes out! Thanks again!
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