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    Greetings please check this. It reads too good to be true. But surly fit into the current times, lots of fake news and fragments of disclosure.
    http://energyfanatics.com/2017/01/30...ity-generator/
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    According to Project.Nsearch.com, a company in Europe has done the near impossible. They have built a working “free” energy device that can deliver an output of over 7500 watts at 220 volts without consuming any fuel. The overunity or free energy generator is designed to inexpensively power private homes or small workshops.

    I am aware that free energy technology has existed since the early 1900s, but is the following free energy device a working overunity generator? There is not much information in the public domain about this free energy device, so we will have to wait and see if it is truly running on free energy.

    Below is an excerpt from an article published on Project.Nsearch.com about the free energy generator.

    A company in Europe has just changed everything! They have just released a working free energy device to the public. You can see the device in the video above. Their device is an electricity generator delivering an output of over 7500 W at 220V without using any fuel for it’s work! This device uses elements found in other devices on the market since the 40s and 50s with some innovative additions. The device will come in a locked box protected and insulated from noise and to protect the company’s intellectual properly.

    This unit is designed to work in private homes, cottages or small workshops. It has been given a certificate that it’s not harmful to humans and the environment. The user must sign a contract not to open the device for a period of 5 years which is the period of the warranty. The company says you can test the device for 30 days for free before you buy it! If you do not like the device, you can send it back within 30 days. They will not refund the transport costs but say if there is any problem with the machine, contact them first. The device will not get hot and also has an overload protection circuit.

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    Quote They have built a working “free” energy device that can deliver an output of over 7500 watts at 220 volts without consuming any fuel.
    What does that mean? By 'fuel' do they mean current? If so why not say current?

    Conventional physics states that to get 7500 watts from a 220 volt requires 34.1 amps. If they've managed to get 7500 watts from a 220 volt supply without that much current, then that is interesting. But if the supply isn't giving any current, what is it doing instead?

    No wiring diagram, no technical details. Suspicious...

    Come on folks. Surely I'm not the only one wanting to ask these probing questions?

    It only takes one of the forum's Free Energy believers to buy one and report back.

    What could possibly go wrong?

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    A generator is not fueled by current. It is powered by a motor, or driven by steam or water. The product is current.

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    Default Re: Commercial free energy generator for sale

    What does that mean? By 'fuel' do they mean current? If so why not say current?

    Conventional physics states that to get 7500 watts from a 220 volt requires 34.1 amps. If they've managed to get 7500 watts from a 220 volt supply without that much current, then that is interesting. But if the supply isn't giving any current, what is it doing instead?

    No wiring diagram, no technical details. Suspicious...

    Come on folks. Surely I'm not the only one wanting to ask these probing questions?

    It only takes one of the forum's Free Energy believers to buy one and report back.

    What could possibly go wrong?


    No Your not Nick I would like some info also.




    Yes Erine but they are claiming it is using the 220 volt input so that must be driving the Generator.


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    This is very interesting. Thank you for sharing!
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    A generator is not fueled by current. It is powered by a motor, or driven by steam or water. The product is current.
    So it's not 'free' energy? There's not much point using an electric motor to generate electricity, unless it's some form of rotary transformer to get AC from a DC source - like it was done in the distant past.

    In any case, I see no steam or water in the video. And if there was, it's still not free energy in the sense the energy comes from the vacuum of space, zero-point or whatever.

    Lets have some technical data: power input data, power output data, info showing how these were measured, test equipment used, waveforms.

    It's not the first time we've discussed this sort of thing on PA, and the same old questions still don't get answered. It makes it look suspicious.

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    Sorry, I was only answering the general question of how a generator works - it needs a prime mover.

    I did not watch the video because if it comes with proprietary technology, it is not the real thing.

    Even if it is, it will only be leveraged for profit.

    Free Energy takes as much personal development as enlightenment does.

    The average Joe or Jill will not be delivering society and paradigm changing technology because the old cannot create the new, in this case.

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    OK,on order to avoid dealers please watch the video.In video description are the links to the manufacturer:

    INNOVATEHNO1943 d.o.o.
    Croatia, 10000 Zagreb, Poljanice BB

    Now you can contact them directly.

    Price:
    1. Indoor model-3800€+VAT
    2. Outdoor model- 4100€+VAT

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    Just posting a video of something 'working' in a basement with shots of a digital 'scope showing a sine wave really doesn't help. How can that be so hard to comprehend?

    I mean, who would part with nearly four thousand euros on the basis of that? The website doesn't come close to addressing any of the issues.

    It's a joke, or a scam. But if it's not (and it might be genuine), let's have some hard evidence shall we? Measurements, exposed test equipment, waveforms at different points in the device.

    Just in case people have forgotten, or don't know, similar claims were made by Hope Girl and QEG. Then there was the Keshe fiasco (which seems at last to have been exposed a scam) , then there was the Irish company Steorn...

    Maybe TPTB crush all these innovations, but on the other hand maybe it's all smoke and mirrors to get financial investments from the naive.

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    If they are delivering in their special trucks, I wonder if it can drive to Canada. Does anybody know the price of these.

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    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    Just posting a video of something 'working' in a basement with shots of a digital 'scope showing a sine wave really doesn't help. How can that be so hard to comprehend?

    I mean, who would part with nearly four thousand euros on the basis of that? The website doesn't come close to addressing any of the issues.

    It's a joke, or a scam. But if it's not (and it might be genuine), let's have some hard evidence shall we? Measurements, exposed test equipment, waveforms at different points in the device.

    Just in case people have forgotten, or don't know, similar claims were made by Hope Girl and QEG. Then there was the Keshe fiasco (which seems at last to have been exposed a scam) , then there was the Irish company Steorn...

    Maybe TPTB crush all these innovations, but on the other hand maybe it's all smoke and mirrors to get financial investments from the naive.
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    While all claims of 'free energy' devices should be reviewed carefully, to say that they don't exist is simply not true. From what I'm aware of, Tesla was the first with his radiant energy 'accumulator' which appears to have been used in his Pierce-Arrow car that he had built specially for him, and used a 6 ft 'antenna' to draw electrical energy from the 'ether'. Then there was T.H. Moray who had thoroughly demonstrated his 'generator' multiple times, but was ignored and threatened, eventually was 'sidelined' by a natural death. One of the potential sources of this 'free energy' is described by Stan Deyo, near the end of this video...
    I remain hopeful that these devices will make the transition into general knowledge as it will dethrone the current puppet masters, and empower all of humanity.
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    Quote Posted by Gillian (here)
    If they are delivering in their special trucks, I wonder if it can drive to Canada. Does anybody know the price of these.
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    OK,on order to avoid dealers please watch the video.In video description are the links to the manufacturer:

    INNOVATEHNO1943 d.o.o.
    Croatia, 10000 Zagreb, Poljanice BB

    Now you can contact them directly.

    Price:
    1. Indoor model-3800€+VAT
    2. Outdoor model- 4100€+VAT


    Croatia, 10000 Zagreb, Poljanice BB
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    Although I am interested in these devices I lack the knowledge to understand how they could possibly work. The idea of the "ether" "orgone" or some other form of energy being tapped doesn't seem totally implausible. These guys do seem to end up with toasters in their hot tubs all too often....same with people making advanced carburetors that can achieve 200mpg or more.

    I was never particularly interested in the Keshe or Searle technology for very long. But the Italian inventor Andrea Rossi's Nickel based approach seems promising as dos the Steorn device on display in Ireland. http://www.independent.ie/business/i...-26591835.html

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    would be interesting to get more videos of those that purchased it and producing some sort of a review.. fun times ahead.

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    Quote Posted by CurEus (here)
    Although I am interested in these devices I lack the knowledge to understand how they could possibly work. The idea of the "ether" "orgone" or some other form of energy being tapped doesn't seem totally implausible. These guys do seem to end up with toasters in their hot tubs all too often....same with people making advanced carburetors that can achieve 200mpg or more.
    How would you generate electricity from "orgone" though? that doesn't make sense at all.

    Gasoline only has so much energy in it when burned... 200mpg is highly doubtful with just a "carburetor", IMO the vast majority of these types of inventions are BS.


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    I was never particularly interested in the Keshe or Searle technology for very long. But the Italian inventor Andrea Rossi's Nickel based approach seems promising as dos the Steorn device on display in Ireland. http://www.independent.ie/business/i...-26591835.html

    Rossi is probably legit, this one doesn't make any sense & I'd lean to hoax with out a good robust explanation of the power source.

    The other one posted recently with resonance induced electrolysis is pretty interesting (far more than this one), but questionable as well.
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    Just posting a video of something 'working' in a basement with shots of a digital 'scope showing a sine wave really doesn't help. How can that be so hard to comprehend?

    I mean, who would part with nearly four thousand euros on the basis of that? The website doesn't come close to addressing any of the issues.

    It's a joke, or a scam. But if it's not (and it might be genuine), let's have some hard evidence shall we? Measurements, exposed test equipment, waveforms at different points in the device.

    Just in case people have forgotten, or don't know, similar claims were made by Hope Girl and QEG. Then there was the Keshe fiasco (which seems at last to have been exposed a scam) , then there was the Irish company Steorn...

    Maybe TPTB crush all these innovations, but on the other hand maybe it's all smoke and mirrors to get financial investments from the naive.
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    Call them,record them with a free call recorder app,convert it in mp3 format and put it here to see what they are capable of.
    I will do that tomorrow and report back.

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    "digital 'scope showing a sine wave really doesn't help"

    This was also my first thought... an osilloscope is the wrong tool for this measurment. They should use an power meter or power analyzer. I wached the video closley and this tektronix TDS2014C can mausure according to the data sheet, just true RMS over an curent probe. In my opinion the scope just show the 220 V sine wave. Anyway, this sounds to good and interessting and I will take a closer look to this company. Fortunatly I am from Croatia and I have a lot of friends in Zagreb. If I find some new informations I will shere this later in this treed.

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    From the website: http://innovatehno.eu/products/

    "The user (buyer) has to sign a contract, to not open the device for a period of 5 years, which is the period of warranty as well, that warranty can be extended for the next 5 years."

    I have a proposal to make.. If you organize, via crowdfunding the 3800€ for the unit I will drive the next day to Zagreb and get one. I can test, film and post the results. As an former electrical engineer I am able to see does it work. So just get the money and I will "sacrifice" my self for this "hard work" and of course the unit stays with me

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