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    Alert: Former Soros Associate Just Warned We Are About To Witness ‘Absolute F*cking Chaos’ Across The Globe

    Today a former associate of George Soros told King World News that we are about to witness “absolute f*cking chaos” across the globe in a little over two months.

    Victor Sperandeo oversees over $3 billion, has been in the business 45 years, and has worked with famous individuals such as Leon Cooperman and George Soros. Below is what Sperandeo had to say

    Victor Sperandeo: “What people are underestimating is the upcoming election in the Netherlands on March 15. A month later France is going to hold their election…



    A Lion Will Lead The Netherlands Out Of The EU

    Victor Sperandeo continues: “Greert Wilders, who is running to lead the Netherlands, is going to win that election. He was arrested for making the claim, in a nice way, that Muslims should stay in their own countries and not come to the Netherlands. So he is pissed off and so are many of the people in the Netherlands. And Wilders is going to win that election and get the Netherlands out of the EU.



    A Lioness Will Lead France Out Of The EU

    And over in France, Le Pen is now in the lead and she is going to win and pull France out of the EU. The euro is going to go away and each country will go back to their own currencies. So what is going to happen in the aftermath of this, Eric, is complete chaos and world depression! The EU is toast and the whole world is going to feel the effects of the collapse of the EU. As an example, there will be extreme inflation in countries such as Italy.

    Death Of The EU – “There Will Be Absolute F*cking Chaos”

    And what is going to happen to the U.S. stock market? People will stop buying U.S. stocks because the whole world is going to go into a depression. There will be absolute f*cking chaos starting on March 15 and nobody is talking about it. The populist movement, which are people who have been f*cked, are moving away from the globalist movement. And when 27 countries get their own printing presses back it will be chaos. I have been tempted to go 100 percent long gold. It’s such a slam dunk that the world is in trouble. The EU was built on France and Germany, so without France there is no EU. Gold will be in extreme demand when this unfolds and that is why the gold market is already firming up. Eric, I promise you there will be total chaos.”

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    Default Re: Former Soros associate: Wilders and Le Pen elected, then chaos in the EU and global markets

    He could just need the price of gold to rise enough so it is worth his while selling the gold he and his friends already have.

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    Default Re: Former Soros associate: Wilders and Le Pen elected, then chaos in the EU and global markets

    Thanks Bill i was wondering where this evil bastard (Soros) is hiding out . Im not a church going person but believe in a god. I think we have front row seats a huge battle between good and evil . Everyday in the U.S. there is a new twist and turn which will effect Europe as well. Soros funding riots in america and elsewhere with an unlimited budget. He is pure evil and needs to be exposed . And this Jewish guy from Hungary effecting politics everywhere 3/4 of Americans dont know who he is. I wish i could wake more people up.

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    Default Re: Former Soros associate: Wilders and Le Pen elected, then chaos in the EU and global markets

    They did it before they can do it again.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/p...pen-again.html

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    The EU is toast and the whole world is going to feel the effects of the collapse of the EU. As an example, there will be extreme inflation in countries such as Italy.

    Death Of The EU – “There Will Be Absolute F*cking Chaos”
    Aweee, is the poor elite panicking?

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    And what is going to happen to the U.S. stock market? People will stop buying U.S. stocks because the whole world is going to go into a depression. There will be absolute f*cking chaos starting on March 15 and nobody is talking about it. The populist movement, which are people who have been f*cked, are moving away from the globalist movement. And when 27 countries get their own printing presses back it will be chaos. I have been tempted to go 100 percent long gold. It’s such a slam dunk that the world is in trouble. The EU was built on France and Germany, so without France there is no EU. Gold will be in extreme demand when this unfolds and that is why the gold market is already firming up. Eric, I promise you there will be total chaos.”

    Hmm.. for some reason I'm not so sure the US will be drug into this, at least not much... but it is fun to see the panic.
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    Default Re: Former Soros associate: Wilders and Le Pen elected, then chaos in the EU and global markets

    There's been a lot of arguing here in UK about losing access to the "single market".

    The way this is looking, there won't be a single market to worry about.
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    Default Re: Former Soros associate: Wilders and Le Pen elected, then chaos in the EU and global markets

    The title says Wilder (missing an s). Geert Wilders that is. very populistic and he has a lot off support mainly because the failure of the multi-cultural society.
    That is because every person with a working brain should be able to figure out you can't mix cultures except for corrupt politicians with hidden agendas.
    If he wins remains to be seen and even if he does he will need support from other parties.

    Europe might just have been doomed to fail from the start. We'll see what happens. I'm not gonna hold my breath

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    Default Re: Former Soros associate: Wilders and Le Pen elected, then chaos in the EU and global markets

    can it be managed in an orderly fashion? perhaps

    the chances of melt downs in Italy are high, and that, coupled with the value destruction that markets rightly ascribe to the break up of a large 'state' into smaller ones, means it would be a global event.

    markets rightly believe that the eu assists corporate profits, and this is priced in. it can equally be priced out. the £ lost 15% of its value. companies with significant business in the eu will be priced down.
    we have subcontracted the business of healing people to Companies who profit from sickness.

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    Default Re: Former Soros associate: Wilders and Le Pen elected, then chaos in the EU and global markets

    Interesting times.

    The EU is obviously doomed, but I don't think Wilders will be the trigger. He may be the single largest party in the Netherlands in the March election but there will be many other small parties. It's unlikely to lead to an immediate Netherlands exit from the EU.

    If Marine Le Pen wins in France, that will be a game-changer, but even so will take time to play out.

    More immediate problems are the Greek crisis - they really have run out of money this time! And the IMF has admitted that Greek's debt is unsustainable, which means by their own rules they cannot lend any more to Greece (of course it was unsustainable 3 years ago, but they ignored this until finally now). Eventually the Greek people will realise that being out of the Euro is the least worst option, and when they leave it really will be a crisis.

    And of course Italy could go critical at any moment. It's a slow motion train wreck actually.

    Not to mention Portugal and Spain...

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    Wilders will get a lot of voters behind him, bit like Jantje said, he cant rule our country allone, and other political groups have already said they wont coopperate whit him, so lets see how things work out.

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    So many are so angry , and the sleeping masses have been by design have been divided into groups ... There has never been such division and anger placed on a global scale ...it will be easy for the controllers to crash the system, as everyone is always looking for change...Some are just sick and tired of being sick and tired , they will march glady into oblivion... I follow a small prepper group on youtube for getting a pulse for what small side groups are talking about , they are at the highest state of ready i have seen in the last four years ... i would advise those who feel the ned, stock up on food, water and first aid , just in case... they say a three month supply is a good start ...
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    So many are so angry ,
    Seemingly, (in the US anyway) only about half though.

    I hate to get all "left / right"

    But... doesn't it seem like only the "leftist" are angry for the most part?

    it's like a complete role reversal.. the "right" is the peaceful calm ones this time, the right is (as always) supporting the status quo; but this time they are the less extreme (no abortion clinic bombings, no evangelic riots...)

    And in Europe it's the "leftists" (socialists / Marxists) who are having a fit "GLOBALISM IS ENDING >>CHAOS WILL ENSURE<<" ....

    I hope this panic is a good sign for "us" others.
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    Exactly , the ones that always accuse the right of being racist, violent, unhinged, etc , are doing the very things they claim they are against, while the right engage peacefully in ideas ... its like the entire world went crazy in a week ...
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    Default Re: Former Soros associate: Wilders and Le Pen elected, then chaos in the EU and global markets

    It's hard to know where people like Sperandeo are really coming from when they make provocative statements as this.

    1) He can be trying to subvert populist movements by intimating that when populists are elected everyone goes to hell in a handbasket. He sounds like he's making a prediction but he really could just be fear mongering before the Dutch and French elections. It's the ones who are threatening to not work with a populist victor and sabotage their own country that are the problem, not the populists.

    2) He is telling us our U.S. stock market will crash. We don't have to go along with that. DON'T SELL INTO PANIC. All we need is a calm, intelligent, authoritative voice in the country (if any exist) telling people not to panic and don't do the same old stupid thing - start selling en masse when you hear the yelling. That is how collapses happen. Don't do anything. If you see some precautions you can take, take them now, not on March 15th.

    3) He says he's thinking of going 100% long on gold! I don't believe it. A billionaire financier putting all his eggs in one basket? nah, but it sure sounds like he wants us going 100% long on gold! Why? and he doesn't mention what kind of gold, paper like ETFs? or is he buying physical gold and hoarding it in his mansions?

    Very interesting but as usual these days everything with ample grains of salt....

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    There will be major contagion. The U.S. is still exposed through international banking in a Yuuuuge way.

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    Quote Posted by ghostrider (here)
    Exactly , the ones that always accuse the right of being racist, violent, unhinged, etc , are doing the very things they claim they are against, while the right engage peacefully in ideas ... its like the entire world went crazy in a week ...
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    Quote Posted by ghostrider (here)
    So many are so angry ,
    Seemingly, (in the US anyway) only about half though.

    I hate to get all "left / right"

    But... doesn't it seem like only the "leftist" are angry for the most part?

    it's like a complete role reversal.. the "right" is the peaceful calm ones this time, the right is (as always) supporting the status quo; but this time they are the less extreme (no abortion clinic bombings, no evangelic riots...)

    And in Europe it's the "leftists" (socialists / Marxists) who are having a fit "GLOBALISM IS ENDING >>CHAOS WILL ENSURE<<" ....

    I hope this panic is a good sign for "us" others.
    Oh well, you're a former soldier. You have to go all "left right, left right, left right," marching in parades, right?

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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    Oh well, you're a former soldier. You have to go all "left right, left right, left right," marching in parades, right?
    Well, I'm sitting here at my desk in uniform right now, so not former


    and yes.... but mostly left (strangly... haha)

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    What credibility does this currency speculator have? Since when does the breakup of a plutocratic monopolistic semi-fascist trade organization result in a world wide depression? If anyone has analyzed switzerland's relationship with the EU they'll see a model that foretells how the new EU will look like, one where the individual countries retain control of their borders and internal markets but still have general trade with their neighbours. No more EU bureaucrats who ignore the public to serve their fascist corporate taskmasters. Watch for a revival of the middle class who are the true wealth and employment generators in the economy. This guy is just a fear mongerer probably looking to make a quick profit off a rise in gold prices. We've had enough of these dirtbag speculators.
    Last edited by Justplain; 4th February 2017 at 21:45.

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