Zero & One - A film about non-duality (Full free Version)

[Clear Light]

Oh, for those "who" (?) perhaps are "seeking resolution" with the Neo-Advaita methodoloy, here's a Video which attempts to discuss the non-discussability of what Neo-Advaita is all about :

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SqOenoY_6s

Now while I can relate to it in the sense of the seeming experience of the "falling away" of the "personal self", I do feel however that this "approach" is probably not for everyone because although it doesn't leave the "intellect" anywhere to go (which is the point I suppose), the apparent "jump" to "this is it" may not get to the root (and cut it), as to the belief in a "separate self" ... on the other hand "who" am I to judge eh ?

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Ah, perhaps Contemplate this : "Experience and Awareness are not two" eh?

[dim]

...and yet all i can hear is a loudspeaker a self indulgence speeding up on its way to crash upon the great wall of the honesty of pain.
Then, truly awaken.

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Posted by dim (here)
...and yet all i can hear is a loudspeaker a self indulgence speeding up on its way to crash upon the great wall of the honesty of pain.
Then, truly awaken.

Oh, perhaps such a "crash" as some type of "personal crisis" is exactly what is seemingly needed before the "intellect" will even entertain the idea of non-duality / "enlightenment" / self-realisation / no-self (in some form or other) eh ?

Now, "looking back" so-to-speak, it does seem as though "I" had to experience the so-called "dark night of the soul" ... several times in fact

[Guish]

[WhiteLove]

The "this is it", can be extended as: "this is a part of it all". There are other parts, in other nows. So hence the "this is it", is true only in a specific context (place, time) from the individual perspective. A greater awareness would say "there is more to this".

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Posted by WhiteLove (here)
The "this is it", can be extended as: "this is a part of it all". There are other parts, in other nows. So hence the "this is it", is true only in a specific context (place, time) from the individual perspective. A greater awareness would say "there is more to this".

Oh, with respect WhiteLove, to claim there are "other nows", "other parts" or "more to this" is still the product of dualistic-thinking, whereas the "this is it" (or perhaps just "this") is meant to convey the sense of direct immediateness, with no intermediary that thinks in terms of subjects / objects, as in the subject "I" seeing objects for example (self / other) ...

Now, in the absence of such conceptualisation, if the "emptiness" of "self" (as in there is no permanent personal "self") has been pierced / penetrated, then there is likely no-one to see any-thing ... there is merely "seeing", see ?

I'd say it's like it seems there is a conceptual overlay obscuring "as-it-isness" thus to "see directly" such conceptualising must cease or dissolve eh ?

By way of metaphor : Consider the thinking mind as a whirlpool but if the whirling (of conceptualising) ceases where does the whirlpool go ?

[dim]

Posted by Clear Light (here)
Oh, perhaps such a "crash" as some type of "personal crisis" is exactly what is seemingly needed before the "intellect" will even entertain the idea of non-duality / "enlightenment" / self-realisation / no-self (in some form or other) eh ?

Now, "looking back" so-to-speak, it does seem as though "I" had to experience the so-called "dark night of the soul" ... several times in fact

Indeed, i totally forgot what I had to go through before even have the luxury to apply my intellectual arrogance upon my awakening.
Thank you for reminding me.

[sunwings]

As a child I used to experience Non-duality. I remember lying on my bed and getting to a state where there was no ME, or Bed or Earth and it was what it was. All and nothing. A great documentary which has triggered something I feel.

[Omni]

In my opinion duality is a pivotal part of reality. Hot/Cold Good/Bad Left/Right Female/Male just about everything has poles like this. I think it could be truly impossible to "transcend duality" unless you have no perception of what is happening. I personally think the non duality stuff is new age nonsense.

[kirolak]

Maanduuukya Kaarika ( Upaanishad) III sloka 48 states: "No individual being, whichsoever, takes birth. It has no source (of birth). This (Brahman) is that highest Truth where nothing whatsoever takes birth".

And IV sloka 4 : "A thing that already exists does not pass into birth; and a thing that does not pre-exist cannot pass into birth. These people, while disputing thus, are really non-dualists, and they thus reveal the absence of birth" (Kim cit bhuutam na jaayate).

And Maandukya Kaarika IV sloka 47: "As the movement of a fire brand appears to be straight or crooked, so it is the vibration of Consciousness that appears to be the Knower and the Known"

So not New Age, as such

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Posted by Omnisense (here)
In my opinion duality is a pivotal part of reality. Hot/Cold Good/Bad Left/Right Female/Male just about everything has poles like this. I think it could be truly impossible to "transcend duality" unless you have no perception of what is happening. I personally think the non duality stuff is new age nonsense.

Ah, while I do agree there does seem to be a lot of "new age crap" floating around these days, there are, however, genuine authentic non-dual "paths" (of sudden enlightenment) which have been passed down through the generations for hundreds of years ... and so I would say it is probably best not to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" and "write off" such Traditions as if they all fall into the same category of "non-sense" eh ?

Furthermore, an "exchange of opinions" isn't likely going to convince you one way or the other Omnisense, but all the Information you could ever ask for, is available on the Internet should you perhaps, one day, decide to take a "deeper look", that is : At your own Mind !!!

[sunwings]

A fire can't burn itself, wind can't blow itself, you can't touch your head with your head, and water can't wet itself. So how can a searcher find himself?

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Posted by sunwings (here)
A fire can't burn itself, wind can't blow itself, you can't touch your head with your head, and water can't wet itself. So how can a searcher find himself?

Posted by Omnisense (here)
I think it could be truly impossible to "transcend duality" unless you have no perception of what is happening

John Snelling :

A primary cause of suffering is delusion: our inability, because
of subtly willful blindness, to see things the way they truly are
but instead in a distorted way. The world is in fact a seamless
and dynamic unity, a single living organism that is constantly
undergoing change. Our minds, however, chop it up into separate,
static bits and pieces, which we then try mentally and physically to
manipulate. One of the mind's most dear creations is the idea of
the person and, closest to home, of a very special person which
each one of us calls I: a separate, enduring ego or self. There is
"I"-- and there is all the rest. That means conflict--and pain, for
"I" cannot control that fathomless vastness against which it is
set. It will try, of course, as a flea might pit itself against an
elephant, but it is a vain enterprise

Oh, the revelation that we are not our thoughts may come as a surprise to many, and this may provoke a certain sense of "loss", or disorientation, or even panic, yet, it is well in such moments to perhaps reflect upon the analogy of the "swirling snow globe" wherein, with a little patience (or mindfulness), the "swirling" (of thoughts and all other apparent objects of perception) "settles down", whereupon, with good fortune, even the sense of the one who perceives (the subject) itself dissolves eh ?

>>> You might then start to "see" what I mean with regards to "Non-Duality" !!! <<<

[Guish]

Posted by Omnisense (here)
In my opinion duality is a pivotal part of reality. Hot/Cold Good/Bad Left/Right Female/Male just about everything has poles like this. I think it could be truly impossible to "transcend duality" unless you have no perception of what is happening. I personally think the non duality stuff is new age nonsense.

When "I" talk to a woman, do I see a woman or do I just see the Buddha nature of the woman? I was branded a sexist the last time I said something along those lines on PA
Hot and Cold are just states of temperature
What's good for one is bad for another

There's a state beyond concepts where one just acts without judging, without proving and without expecting.
At this point you are again part of the whole and there's not one doing it, it gets done.
There's peace.

[sunwings]

18 months on and I am back here. I tried really hard to walk away from Non Duality but it kept tugging on me for months and months. I do believe people have different paths to walk in spirituality and this idea of Non duality dovetailed very well with my persona. I started getting downloads telling me what amazing actors we are, how we believe in the game 100% but we only see 50% of what is there, we don´t see the 50% which is nothing / awareness / consciousness. Consciousness is all that is and we are Consciousness .

So on that note I happily add to wonderful videos which have helped me have experiences in the last few days which has made it clear when we surrender the other world is quickly revealed to us.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoofO9BaKkU

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZXhPmHPoNo