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    I had planned to write this week about the role technology will play in the coming Reset. However, sometimes you come across an article that explains something important and you simply must pass it on. Part 1 of this article fits the bill. The rise of a “grey champion” during The Fourth Turning has significant implications for the Great American Reset.


    Please do not construe my passing on this article as some form of “doom and gloom” forecast. Part 1 is a very good summary of our present situation and that is why I am recommending it. Part 2 identifies many of the challenges we face. However, the author of this article believes a dark outcome is our only option and frames those challenges as insurmountable. I don’t agree. However, we also have to be realistic in that some of it isn’t outside of the realm of possiblity.

    I read The Fourth Turning several years ago. As it says in this article,
    The saecular winter [Fourth Turning] can hurry or wait, but history warns that it will surely be upon us.”
    It may be short or long, harsh or mild. A lot of that depends on how we respond.

    So… what is the Fourth Turning?
    “This is an era in which America’s institutional life is torn down and rebuilt from the ground up—always in response to a perceived threat to the nation’s very survival. Civic authority revives, cultural expression finds a community purpose, and people begin to locate themselves as members of a larger group. In every instance, Fourth Turnings have eventually become new “founding moments” in America’s history, refreshing and redefining the national identity.”
    Sound familiar?

    This is another way of describing the Great American Reset.

    The article points out that the rise of “The Grey Champion” occurs just as the Fourth Turning enters its crisis phase. Please don’t dismiss the election of Trump in this context. It’s explains a great deal about the cycles of history and how they are repeating before our very eyes.

    If you read Part 2, please know that I firmly believe that working together, we can change the weather and shorten the winter.
    The Grey Champion Assumes Command
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    Default Re: Trump: The Great American Reset

    X22 Report update on Trump's Travel Ban.... Fake Polls... Filing Lawsuits Funded by Soros... Trump's Voter Fraud Probe moving forward...

    Truth Bombs Are Exploding All Over The Place
    Leaving The Media & Elite Scrambling Like Chickens

    Episode 1197b
    (Published on Feb 6, 2017)
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    Everything Is Almost In Place, The
    Economic Crisis Is About To Begin

    Episode 1198a
    (Published on Feb 7, 2017)
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    “This is an era in which America’s institutional life is torn down and rebuilt from the ground up—always in response to a perceived threat to the nation’s very survival. Civic authority revives, cultural expression finds a community purpose, and people begin to locate themselves as members of a larger group. In every instance, Fourth Turnings have eventually become new “founding moments” in America’s history, refreshing and redefining the national identity.”

    Sound familiar? "

    More than familiar. It's blindingly obvious that the winter is now upon America, and that there is hope that after the Great Orange One lays all of its institutions to waste, the citizens will find common cause and rebuild their once beautiful country.

    Then will come The Grey Champion! Then will come Bernie Sanders, in all his glory, to restore the nation to the fair and honest state it wherein it once enjoyed!

    B.
    A human being is a part of the whole, called by us "Universe," a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest—a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness.

    Albert E.

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    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    “This is an era in which America’s institutional life is torn down and rebuilt from the ground up—always in response to a perceived threat to the nation’s very survival. Civic authority revives, cultural expression finds a community purpose, and people begin to locate themselves as members of a larger group. In every instance, Fourth Turnings have eventually become new “founding moments” in America’s history, refreshing and redefining the national identity.”

    Sound familiar? "

    More than familiar. It's blindingly obvious that the winter is now upon America, and that there is hope that after the Great Orange One lays all of its institutions to waste, the citizens will find common cause and rebuild their once beautiful country.

    Then will come The Grey Champion! Then will come Bernie Sanders, in all his glory, to restore the nation to the fair and honest state it wherein it once enjoyed!
    B.
    The "Grey Champion" isn't necessarily just one individual, it could be more than one, it could be a group... One thing is that whoever it is, will appear to be against the status quo.

    By the way, I've heard Bernie now praises Donald Trump for his ability to win the election. Note the New York Post Headline / Article below...

    In Part 1 of this article I discussed the catalyst spark which ignited this Fourth Turning and the seemingly delayed regeneracy. In Part 2 I will ponder possible Grey Champion prophet generation leaders who could arise during the regeneracy.


    The nearly seven year reign of Barack Obama has resulted in furthering wealth inequality, in spite of his socialistic rhetoric. Notwithstanding his Nobel Peace Prize, military spending is at all-time highs and we are engaged in actual and proxy wars across the Middle East and in the Ukraine. Race relations have never been worse. Poverty levels have never been worse. Real median household income is lower than it was in 1989. Real hourly wages are at 50 year lows. Home ownership has plunged to 50 year lows, as middle class workers have been kicked out of their homes and young people are saddled with so much student loan debt and bleak job opportunities they will never have an opportunity to own. The ownership society pushed by Clinton and Bush, with the proliferation of Wall Street created “exotic” subprime mortgages, peddled to people incapable of paying their mortgages, blew up the world in 2008, and the fall out will last for decades.



    Meanwhile, Wall Street banks have reaped $700 billion of ill-gotten profits since 2010 as the Federal Reserve has handed them trillions of interest free funds to gamble with, while rigging the financial markets, and paying their executives obscene bonuses. The hubris and arrogance of the Wall Street titans is appalling, as they buy politicians, write toothless financial regulations (Dodd Frank) for their bought off politicians to pass, report fraudulent financial results with the stamp of approval from the FASB, blatantly rig interest rate, currency, stock and commodities markets, and use deception and propaganda to distract and mislead the public through their corporate media mouthpieces – dependent upon Wall Street advertising revenue to thrive.

    And still, Obama has not prosecuted one banker for the largest control fraud in world history, as he assumed the role of useful puppet to the vested financial interests. I’m sure he will be paid handsomely after he leaves office in 2017, just as Bill Clinton, Alan Greenspan, and Ben Bernanke have been richly rewarded by their Deep State benefactors for a job well done.


    Illegal immigrants are pouring over our borders with encouragement from the Obama administration. Obamacare has proven to be a giveaway to health insurance conglomerates, hospital corporations, and drug companies, as insurance costs are driven higher, care deteriorates, and deficits soar ever higher. The welfare state has grown to immense proportions, with 46 million Americans remaining on food stamps, proving the reported unemployment rate of 5.1% to be a fraud. The labor participation rate of 62.6% is at levels last seen in 1977 and far below the 67.1% rate achieved from 1997 through 2000. The politicians and corporate media applaud $600 billion deficits as an achievement, while 10,000 Boomers turning 65 per day is guaranteed to drive future deficits back over $1 trillion per year.

    Laurence Kotlikoff, economics professor at Boston University, reveals the truth about our true fiscal mess. Our unfunded liabilities are too damn big and our current deficits are a lie:
    “I told them the real (2014) deficit was $5 trillion, not the $500 billion or $300 billion or whatever it was announced to be this year. Almost all the liabilities of the government are being kept off the books by bogus accounting. The government is 58% underfinanced. Social Security is 33% underfinanced. So, the entire government enterprise is in worse fiscal shape than Social Security is, but they are both in terrible shape. So, how much is America on the hook for in the future? If you take all the expenditures that the government is expected to make, as projected by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), all the spending on defense, repairing the roads, paying for the Supreme Court Justices’ salaries, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, everything and take all those expenditures into the future and compare that to all the taxes that are projected to come in, and the difference is $210 trillion. That’s the fiscal gap. That’s our true debt.
    We now know for sure Barack Obama is not the Grey Champion of this Fourth Turning. He has only worsened the three core elements of this Crisis – debt, civic decay, and global disorder. Since his ascension to power, U.S. and global debt has expanded at an astounding rate never seen in world history. Class, race, political and cultural divides have grown to vast proportions. The world is exploding in violence, refugees flooding over borders, civil wars, proxy wars, riots, currency wars and economic depressions caused by U.S. military interventions and monetary policies.

    The world is becoming increasingly chaotic and the American people are seeking a leader who can bring order, make tough decisions, and capture the zeitgeist of this moment in history. They are in search of a prophet generation (Boomer) Grey Champion, whose arrival marks the moment of darkness, adversity and peril as the Fourth Turning careens towards its climax. The Grey Champion doesn’t necessarily have to be a good person, but they must lead and display tremendous confidence in their cause and path. Franklin, Lincoln, and FDR have many detractors, but during their Fourth Turnings, they most certainly led, casting aside obstacles (sometimes illegally) and enduring dark days and bleak prospects for success. Is there someone of that stature ready to lead the American people now?

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    “Americans have always been blind to the next turning until after it fully arrives.

    Most of today’s adult Americans grew up in a society whose citizens dreamed of perpetually improving outcomes: better jobs, fatter wallets, stronger government, finer culture, nicer families, smarter kids, all the usual fruits of progress. Today, deep into the Third Turning, these goals feel like they are slipping away. Many of us wish we could rewind time, but we know we can’t – and we fear for our children and grandchildren.

    Many Americans wish that, somehow, they could bring back a saecular spring now. But seasons don’t work that way. As in nature, a saecular autumn can be warm or cool, long or short, but the leaves will surely fall. The saecular winter can hurry or wait, but history warns that it will surely be upon us.

    We may not wish the Grey Champion to come again – but come he must, and come he will.”
    The Fourth TurningStrauss & Howe – 1997
    When Strauss and Howe wrote these words eighteen years ago, halfway through the Unraveling, the American Dream was already turning into a nightmare. Perpetually improving outcomes have turned into a perpetually declining standard of living for most Americans. Fear for the futures of our children and grandchildren were warranted. Millennials have been lured into and enslaved by $1.3 trillion of student loan debt, left with limited job opportunities and low pay, priced out of the housing market, and handed a $200 trillion bill by their elders. Despite factual data showing that default rates on for-profit student loans were even three times as high as subprime mortgages in the early 2000s, the government took over the student loan market in 2009 and proceeded to dole out $500 billion (taxpayer money) in new debt over the next six years to anyone that could fog a mirror and scribble an X on a loan document.

    The criminal enterprises known as for profit colleges such as: University of Phoenix, Corinthian, ITT Tech, Strayer, and Devry, have absconded with the money, provided dreadful education, graduated about 20% of enrollees, and left millions of suckers with billions of debt. With default rates now exceeding 50%, students are angry, demanding relief from their own stupidity. Hard working taxpayers who have struggled to put themselves and their kids through college are angry they will foot the bill for defaults that anyone with a high school diploma could see would happen. Trust in the government’s decision making process and motives have been rightfully shattered.

    It is clear the Obama administration purposely enslaved young people in debt to artificially lower the unemployment rate for political purposes. The issuance of colossal amounts of subprime auto loan debt (begun by Ally Financial when it was owned by the Federal government) has also been politically motivated to artificially increase GDP figures and pump up the financial results of the US automakers (GM, Chrysler) saved with taxpayer funds in 2009. There are no free markets left. Everything is manipulated for a political reason or to benefit a particular constituent. The average American pays the price, while the connected .1% are further enriched.


    When young people protested against the true enemies of the people on Wall Street in 2011, they were maced, beaten, tear gassed, trampled by horses and imprisoned by the enforcers of the surveillance police state. The working middle class has seen their real wages stagnate for the last 50 years, as the dollar was unpegged from gold, politicians were free to run up the national debt with no short term consequences, and citizens were turned into consumers through media propaganda, the peddling of debt by Wall Street, and the complete and utter failure of our educational system.

    While working class Americans have seen no advancement in their real wages in almost a half century, the cost of their food, energy, education, healthcare, housing, and taxes have risen astronomically. It is no coincidence the Wall Street bankers stepped in to offer prodigious levels of consumer debt in the form of credit card, mortgage and auto loans to allow Americans to pretend their standard of living hasn’t fallen. Excessive levels of debt leads to excessive profits for the moneyed interests. The last 35 years have been a grand national delusion.


    Trust in the economic system, financial markets, political parties, mainstream media, and generational social contract has been destroyed. Rampant irresponsible fraud, abuse, deception, and deceit by the moneyed interests, lackey politicians, their government apparatchiks, media mouthpieces, and legal system have shattered the illusion the establishment is looking out for your best interests. The revelations by Edward Snowden of illegal mass surveillance, militarization of local police forces, military exercises in US cities, attempts to roll back the 2nd Amendment, and trying to control the internet has revealed the true nature of the corporate fascist state. The disintegration of trust began slowly after 9/11 but accelerated rapidly over the last three years. Our leaders have done the exact opposite of what needed to be done after 2008. Everything they have implemented has failed. The average American is worse off than they were in 2009 at the depths of the recession.

    The highly educated, white collar, sociopath masters of the universe have captured the levers of power in this country. The world is enthralled and mesmerized by a gray haired academic troll-like figure who will ascend her monetary throne and pronounce whether her and her fellow central bank lackeys will raise an obscure inconsequential interest rate from 0% to .25%. This is nothing but a meaningless diversion as her owners (Wall Street banks), their corporate brethren, captured politicians, pliable judiciary, and media mouthpieces rig the financial markets to enrich themselves while impoverishing the masses and drowning current and future generations in un-payable debt. Harry Markopolos, who uncovered Bernie Madoff’s Ponzi scheme, while the SEC and criminal co-conspirator Wall Street bankers willfully ignored the blatant easily identifiable fraud, captures the essence of why trust in our economic, financial, regulatory, political, judicial and journalistic systems has collapsed:
    “Government has coddled, accepted, and ignored white collar crime for too long. It is time the nation woke up and realized that it’s not the armed robbers or drug dealers who cause the most economic harm, it’s the white collar criminals living in the most expensive homes who have the most impressive resumes who harm us the most. They steal our pensions, bankrupt our companies, and destroy thousands of jobs, ruining countless lives.” – Harry Markopolos, Congressional Testimony
    The men who retain the levers of power are the same men who were in command when the Crisis struck in 2008. They are even more powerful and rich today than prior to the financial collapse provoked by their unbridled greed and avarice. They believed they could engineer a recovery by promoting confidence in the Wall Street banks through the issuance of prodigious amounts of debt to solve a crisis caused by too much debt. Total debt outstanding in the U.S. rose from $52 trillion in 2009 to $59 trillion today, at the behest of the government and their Federal Reserve cohorts.

    While rational thinking Americans have continued to pay down their mortgage debt and reduce credit card usage, the Federal government through their insolvent (if using mark to market accounting) entities Fannie and Freddie, along with their monopoly on student loan issuance, and their massive deficit spending, have accounted for more than 100% of the $7 trillion increase. Total global debt approaches $230 trillion, up approximately $70 trillion since the crisis began.


    The mood change in the country is palpable as economic misery besets the middle class; race wars break out in urban ghettos across the land; push back against the police state intensifies; distrust of a rigged financial system keeps people out of the market; young people are priced out of the housing market by Wall Street price manipulation; productive good paying jobs dwindle; government bureaucrats prove themselves inept at everything they attempt; illegal immigrants pour over the southern border overwhelming the social safety net when it is already stretched thin; and faith in both political parties is close to zero. The regeneracy has been delayed, but this has allowed the anger, bitterness, and dismay with the government to grow to staggering proportions. The country is growing desperate for someone to lead. Ignoring the debt, civic decay and global disorder is no longer acceptable. It’s time for someone to step forward and tell the people the truth.

    “Soon after the catalyst, a national election will produce a sweeping political realignment, as one faction or coalition capitalizes on a new public demand for decisive action. Republicans, Democrats, or perhaps a new party will decisively win the long partisan tug of war. This new regime will enthrone itself for the duration of the Crisis. Regardless of its ideology, that new leadership will assert public authority and demand private sacrifice. Where leaders had once been inclined to alleviate societal pressures, they will now aggravate them to command the nation’s attention. The regeneracy will be solidly under way.” – The Fourth TurningStrauss & Howe – 1997
    The Grey Champion is likely to be elevated through an election, but it isn’t a requirement. Ben Franklin and Samuel Adams were the intellectual and firebrand Grey Champions of the American Revolution. They inspired the revolutionaries through writings and oratory. Lincoln and FDR were elected Grey Champions, but Lincoln only won 40% of the popular vote in a four way race, while FDR won in a landslide with 57% of the vote over Hoover. It was clear Lincoln didn’t have a mandate, as Southern states began seceding after his election. No one can argue Franklin, Adams, Lincoln or FDR united everyone in a common cause. They actually aggravated the societal pressures that had been ignored or deferred by their predecessors. Compromise was not an option for these men. They were going to lead based upon their own criteria. You were either with them or against them. And many were against them.

    It is widely believed only 20% of colonial Americans were strong supporters of the American Revolution, with 20% Loyalists, and the rest sitting on the fence. Franklin’s own son remained a Loyalist throughout the fight. Half the country departed the Union upon Lincoln’s election and his support in the North was lukewarm at best. Lincoln captured 55% of the vote in the 1864 election, with only northern states voting. Even though FDR won landslide popular vote victories in 1932 and 1936, his detractors and enemies were many. FDR’s confiscation of gold and antagonism toward big business convinced a number of wealthy businessmen to approach General Smedley Butler to lead a coup against FDR and install a fascist regime to run the country. So, it is clear Grey Champions are not universally loved or supported. They have the ability to ignore the complexity of life and focus on one simple imperative: society must prevail.

    Until three months ago the 2016 presidential election was in control of the establishment. The Party was putting forth their chosen crony capitalist figureheads – Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton. They are hand-picked known controllable entities who will not upset the existing corrupt system. They are equally acceptable to Goldman Sachs, the Federal Reserve, the military industrial complex, the sickcare industry, mega-corporate America, the moneyed interests, and the never changing government apparatchiks. The one party system is designed to give the appearance of choice, while in reality there is no difference between the policies of the two heads of one party and their candidate products. But now Donald Trump has stormed onto the scene from the reality TV world to tell the establishment – You’re Fired!!!

    As Hillary’s crimes and lies catch up to her and Jeb Bush drowns in a sea of irrelevance, low energy, and passionless rhetoric, Trump and Bernie Sanders have surged ahead in the polls. The country is tired of the Clinton and Bush dynasties. They are tired of the existing ruling authority. My initial reaction to Trump’s entering the presidential race was scorn. He’s a bloviating, egocentric, self-promoting, reality TV parody of himself. After seeing him in action for the last three months it has become apparent the country deserves a president like Trump.

    He represents everything we’ve become as a nation. Sound bites, no substance, self-involved, boastful, and in constant attack mode are the qualities necessary to lead America today. Facebook twitter nation merits a president like Trump. Bill Clinton playing sax on Arsenio and Obama’s weekly guest appearances on the Daily Show or Jimmy Fallon Show has already tainted and made a mockery of the office of the president.

    Trump was born in 1946 putting him in the Boomer Prophet generation, so he fits the mold of Grey Champion from a generational perspective. Hillary and Jeb are also Boomers, with Sanders from the Silent generation. Trump has struck a nerve with a wide swath of middle class America with his anti-illegal immigration rhetoric, disdain for the elitist mainstream media, unflinching assessment of his second string GOP opponents, and exuberant confidence in his own abilities.

    Building a wall on our southern border, going after billionaire hedge fund managers, cutting government spending, and negotiating trade deals that don’t ship American jobs overseas, are resonating with fed up households across America. Some polls show Trump with significant support among blacks and Hispanics. The linear thinking supporters of the status quo are flabbergasted and outraged by Trump’s popularity. The ruling classes never anticipate the mood shift of the peasants as they look down on the masses from their gated estates and penthouse suites. The country is looking for someone who can tear down the entire fetid, corrupt, rotting structure.

    The moneyed interests are still betting on Hillary or Jeb, but they are getting nervous. There is still time for them to pull the old Ross Perot play by threatening Trump or his family with harm or making him an offer he can’t refuse in financial terms. But, with the Middle East awash in blood, refugees flooding into Europe, China experiencing an epic meltdown, oil producing countries suffering depressions, emerging market economic systems collapsing under the weight of unpayable promises, the Federal Reserve panicked as recession approaches with interest rates at zero bound, and stock, bond and real estate bubbles approaching the inescapable pin, the stars are aligning for a 2nd crisis more perilous and catastrophic than the 2008 catalyst event. The onset of phase two of this Crisis in 2016 will produce a populace more desperate, less trusting of the establishment and likely to turn towards someone like Trump, in despair.

    No matter who is elected in November 2016, there is no turning back. Winter is here and Spring is many years away. Grim times will befall the world. The potential for tragic consequences is growing by the day. The storm clouds are gathering on the horizon. There will certainly be famine, chaos, death, destruction, and war. Let’s pray our Grey Champion can lead us through the valley of death to a new High.

    “The risk of catastrophe will be very high. The nation could erupt into insurrection or civil violence, crack up geographically, or succumb to authoritarian rule. If there is a war, it is likely to be one of maximum risk and effort – in other words, a total war. Every Fourth Turning has registered an upward ratchet in the technology of destruction, and in mankind’s willingness to use it.” – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning
    In Part 3 I will try to assess which channels of distress are likely to burst forth with the molten ingredients of this Fourth Turning, and lastly make some educated guesses about potential climaxes.

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    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    “This is an era in which America’s institutional life is torn down and rebuilt from the ground up—always in response to a perceived threat to the nation’s very survival. Civic authority revives, cultural expression finds a community purpose, and people begin to locate themselves as members of a larger group. In every instance, Fourth Turnings have eventually become new “founding moments” in America’s history, refreshing and redefining the national identity.”

    Sound familiar? "

    More than familiar. It's blindingly obvious that the winter is now upon America, and that there is hope that after the Great Orange One lays all of its institutions to waste, the citizens will find common cause and rebuild their once beautiful country.

    Then will come The Grey Champion! Then will come Bernie Sanders, in all his glory, to restore the nation to the fair and honest state it wherein it once enjoyed!

    B.
    Good joke, lol....

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    Donald Trump is attempting to play the part of a "Great American Reset" and yet, he is looking to me to be more and more like more Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, etc. He is beginning to look like another pick of TPTB. If you have any doubts, just review his cabinet. One look at his cabinet picks will tell you that Trump is choosing denizens of the swamp - banksters. Is that what he means by "drain the swamp"?

    I still am happy that he won the election because it will take some time for him to build up to the criminal activity level of his predecessors. Sadly, it will take him no time at all to resume/continue the wars of his predecessors, and start new ones.

    Perhaps I missed a point. That the "Great American Reset" central to this thread is TPTB which is out to destroy ALL nations of the world. But if they truly succeed, how will America rebuild?
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    Bernie was just a broke bum who sold out. trump is the closest thing you have to a hard reset. Control, alt, delete.
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    sorry of topic but so funny and ask anyone its true ;-)
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    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    Then will come The Grey Champion! Then will come Bernie Sanders, in all his glory, to restore the nation to the fair and honest state it wherein it once enjoyed!

    B.

    Please enlighten me if I'm wrong, but Bernie doesn't seem to understand the real state of the nation. I've never heard Bernie talk about what is really going on.
    Free college for everyone is not going to fix the globalist agenda aiming for the final piece of the General Wesley Clark Middle East tea set. Even now Trump's secretary of defense James Mattis is quoted as saying that Iran is the greatest threat to the world in so far as Terrorism is concerned. Now Trump has shown a spine in so far as the CIA is concerned. And we may have hope in so far as Trump NOT following suite with Israel and attacking Iran.
    The final pieces are in place. There is no way I would have hope right now if Bernie was president. Bernie does not appear to have the guile and understanding to reject the CIA's leash.
    We are on the doorstep. We are on the thresh hold of world war III.
    We are on the doorstep of the globalist depopulation agenda.
    We are on the doorstep to hell on earth.
    Quote Posted by spacejack (here)
    Bernie was just a broke bum who sold out. trump is the closest thing you have to a hard reset. Control, alt, delete.

    I've got to agree with this as well. Bernie knows Hillary stole the election from him, and yet like an idiot he would rather stick with the party line and support Hillary, even though her dishonesty and absolute lack of character is undeniable.
    If Bernie is going to stick to the democratic party line even though he was brutally robbed by the DNC then there is no way he would have had the balls to break rank with the CIA.


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    Donald Trump is attempting to play the part of a "Great American Reset" and yet, he is looking to me to be more and more like more Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, etc. He is beginning to look like another pick of TPTB. If you have any doubts, just review his cabinet. One look at his cabinet picks will tell you that Trump is choosing denizens of the swamp - banksters. Is that what he means by "drain the swamp"?
    I disagree wnlight. Trump stomped the life out of the TPP as soon as he had the authority to. Right out the gate. The TPP was the brainchild of Goldman Sachs and JP Mogan CHASE. Goldman Sachs dumped ALL of their money into the Hillary campaign because they KNEW Trump was not their man.
    In the NFL teams are always willing to take a player from another team who was cut after training camp, especially if they are in the same division because that player knows the other teams play book. I can't help but to think Trump is doing the same thing here. These people may have aspired to work for the most powerful banking institution in the world, but after having seen how the sausage is made, they may just be willing to help destroy this evil institution.
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    Quote Posted by wnlight (here)
    Donald Trump is attempting to play the part of a "Great American Reset" and yet, he is looking to me to be more and more like more Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, etc. He is beginning to look like another pick of TPTB. If you have any doubts, just review his cabinet. One look at his cabinet picks will tell you that Trump is choosing denizens of the swamp - banksters. Is that what he means by "drain the swamp"?

    I still am happy that he won the election because it will take some time for him to build up to the criminal activity level of his predecessors. Sadly, it will take him no time at all to resume/continue the wars of his predecessors, and start new ones.

    Perhaps I missed a point. That the "Great American Reset" central to this thread is TPTB which is out to destroy ALL nations of the world. But if they truly succeed, how will America rebuild?
    Not sure if you're familiar w/ Joel Skousen, but he would disagree with your assessment that Trump is controlled by the so-called TPTB, or anybody else for that matter. Joel says that all he would need is to spend just 1 hour with Donald Trump to fill him in on what the real situation is...

    Just keep in mind... if the system is going to utterly collapse, which includes the international banking cartel, you just might need some of these people to jumpstart another system... perhaps, a system that run differently than one that would eventually crash & burn...

    just saying...

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    TRUMP VERSUS THE DEEP STATE
    As the second week in Donald Trump’s presidency comes to a close, it was inevitable that Trump would run up against some of those elements of the deep state firmly entrenched in government. When he reached out to shut down government employees from tweeting against him, they had a fit. When he instructed them to stop promoting the Climate Change agenda, they threatened to quit, and ran to the media to complain. About 100 statist employees and ambassadors within the State Department refused to serve under Trump or Tillerson, his choice for Secretary of State. Administration bureaucrats announced to the media that Trump would honor Obama’s last minute promise to Australia to bring thousands of Muslim refugees from an Australian island to the USA. Apparently no one consulted Trump who balked. But the biggest threat has come from those within the Defense department and CIA that are still supplying Syrian terrorists with weapons, hoping that Trump won’t stop them. To receive a one-time free sample copy of the brief, email us at editor at worldaffairsbrief.com
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    I think DNA and Spacejack are being too kind to Sanders.
    I watched him with initial interest and ultimately came to see him as a well remunerated asset to the clinton campaign.
    They knew the millenials didn't like clinton and his purpose was to lure them with the freebie heaven on earth socialist rap which he did successfully. After the strong, fiery, wise grandpa figure excites and corrals the young together he completely dumbfounds many by transforming to an old, tired, weak man that didn't have a strategic bone in his body and doesn't confront clinton or demand recounts of the primaries which he could have won.
    In the end he turned to his flock and gave them the inevitable coup d'grace - we fought a good fight, now Go vote for clinton. Which I believe was his purpose all along....

    What ticks me off additionally is that Sanders could have paved the way for viable third party candidates in this country which we have needed for a long time. He may have been the most successful third party candidate in our history and it was all a hoax.

    Sanders was the most cruel of all the candidates.

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    Quote Posted by Helene West (here)
    I think DNA and Spacejack are being too kind to Sanders.
    I watched him with initial interest and ultimately came to see him as a well remunerated asset to the clinton campaign.
    They knew the millenials didn't like clinton and his purpose was to lure them with the freebie heaven on earth socialist rap which he did successfully. After the strong, fiery, wise grandpa figure excites and corrals the young together he completely dumbfounds many by transforming to an old, tired, weak man that didn't have a strategic bone in his body and doesn't confront clinton or demand recounts of the primaries which he could have won.
    In the end he turned to his flock and gave them the inevitable coup d'grace - we fought a good fight, now Go vote for clinton. Which I believe was his purpose all along....

    What ticks me off additionally is that Sanders could have paved the way for viable third party candidates in this country which we have needed for a long time. He may have been the most successful third party candidate in our history and it was all a hoax.

    Sanders was the most cruel of all the candidates.
    Pretty much agree with your assessment of Bernie. Add to that, his overly attachment to the Socialist element. And on top of it, was totally brainwashed with the Global Warming "Fake" Science that was found with so-called "Climate-gate".

    The icing on the cake is when I heard him attribute Global Warming as the reason why there is terrorism. In other words, Global Warming created ISIS, al Qaeda, al Nusra... ISIL, etc. That was really showing his true state of logic.... and totally a believer in what the Deep State propaganda machine has been brainwashing people to believe...

    Bernie Sanders: 'Climate Change Is Directly
    Related To The Growth Of Terrorism'

    (Published on Nov 14, 2015)

    And it recently came out that the notion of Global Warming was concocted to take down Capitalism... So, it would not be any wonder why Bernie "The Socialist" Sanders was a Global Warming enthusiastic freak!

    U.N. Official Breaks Silence & Admits What's
    Really Behind The Global Warming Agenda

    (Published on Feb 3, 2017)
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    Another x22 Report... I'm getting to really like this news connection...

    The World Is Waking Up
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    It is concerning that Joel Skousen and Steve Bannon think war with China is inevitable. I would like to ask Bannon how does that view qualify him to occupy a governmental position where avoiding that conflict is one of the key priorities....

    Hulsman is not optimistic:

    Quote Forget Russia: Trump’s China trade war risks breaking Asia’s fragile peace

    John Hulsman

    Over the past 500 years, when an emerging power (such as China) has collided with a status quo power (such as the US), in 12 of the 16 past cases, the result has been bloodshed (Source: Getty)

    “I see myself as an instrument of the Almighty and go on my way, regardless of transient opinions and views.” – Kaiser Wilhelm II, 1910


    While he was diabolically poor at follow-through, former President Barack Obama has the makings of a first-rate political risk analyst. Early on in his term, Obama keenly saw that Asia was where most of the future growth in the world would come from, but was also the region where most of the global geopolitical risk lay. This basic insight was the motivation for his ill-starred Pivot to Asia, where the region was to rightly receive more strategic involvement from America.
    Risk has been dangerously bubbling up in Asia for two basic reasons. First, and unlike in Europe where Russia is kept at bay and Germany caged, there is no multinational military organisation like Nato that both deters revisionist powers (in this case China) and keeps potentially frightening allies (in this case Japan) on the reservation.

    This is largely because of the hugely counter-productive insistence of Japan’s elite to regularly pray at what my staff have come to call “The War Crimes Shrine” at Yasukuni. Japan’s grudging failure to come to terms with its barbarism in World War II has alienated would-be allies such as South Korea, making the formation of a Nato-like organisation to keep the peace – and to keep America’s allies on the same page – impossible.
    Second, the rise of China has created a state of being problem in East Asia; the United States is the dominant power there, and the Chinese wish to re-claim their traditional historical dominance in the region. This basic fact – and the obvious tensions that flow from it – can simply not be wished away.

    In typical business-like fashion, the Chinese leadership commissioned a study to look at historical examples over the past 500 years of what happened to the world when an emerging power (such as China) collided with a status quo power (such as the US). The doleful conclusion of the Thucydides study – so named for the geopolitical rivalry between Athens and Sparta that ignited the Peloponnesian War – was that, in 12 of the 16 past cases, the result has been bloodshed. Given that historical reality, the structural peril to the present world is so great only a statesman of great ability and subtlety is likely to buck the odds.
    Instead of this, we have newly-inaugurated President Donald Trump, who so far has passed his audition to be the neurotic Kaiser Wilhelm of this era with flying colours. Whereas under Obama the US and China increasingly engaged in a strategic competition in East Asia in the South China and East China Seas, Trump seems intent on increasing the danger by adding an obviously harmful trade war to the menu.

    Given that – unlike the Cold War where the Soviet and Western economies were strikingly separate – China and the US are inextricably linked economically, this is bound to hurt both countries, and nobble the world’s hopes for decent rates of growth. Beyond even this, it is pouring gasoline on the open fire of the inevitable Chinese-American competition in East Asia, making avoidance of the Thucydides trap infinitely harder.
    Far worse still, Trump is heading into his showdown with China having just greatly alienated his many prospective allies in the region, in his breathtakingly counter-productive abrogation of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), an ambitious trade pact that would have welded America economically closer to key allies such as Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Vietnam, Malaysia, and Singapore.
    Instead, by unilaterally walking away from the meticulously negotiated pact, Trump’s White House has allowed Beijing to whisper the poisonous words to America’s Asian allies, “The US is not to be trusted”.
    So in his Wilhelm II audition – a vainglorious bumbler who bluffed the world into an avoidable conflict – Trump seems a cinch for the part. He is taking China on over the wrong issues (macro-economics not geo-strategy), with the wrong balance of power (having just spurned America’s regional allies), at the wrong time (when the world desperately needs all the growth that it can muster).

    Under Obama, the US was firm but business-like with China, defending freedom of navigation in the seas there but working with the Chinese where it could, and furthering joint economic links that make it ever harder for Beijing to turn its back (due to its vast economic interests) on an American-dominated order. The results were impressive strategically, with much of East Asia openly and increasingly siding with the US over the neighbourhood bully.
    Trump’s Kaiser Wilhelm impersonation throws all this out the window, imperilling America’s favourable strategic position. As was true when Obama came to power, Asia is once again the region in the world to watch, but for far more terrifying reasons.

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    Quote Posted by Helene West (here)
    I think DNA and Spacejack are being too kind to Sanders.
    I watched him with initial interest and ultimately came to see him as a well remunerated asset to the clinton campaign.
    They knew the millenials didn't like clinton and his purpose was to lure them with the freebie heaven on earth socialist rap which he did successfully. After the strong, fiery, wise grandpa figure excites and corrals the young together he completely dumbfounds many by transforming to an old, tired, weak man that didn't have a strategic bone in his body and doesn't confront clinton or demand recounts of the primaries which he could have won.
    In the end he turned to his flock and gave them the inevitable coup d'grace - we fought a good fight, now Go vote for clinton. Which I believe was his purpose all along....

    What ticks me off additionally is that Sanders could have paved the way for viable third party candidates in this country which we have needed for a long time. He may have been the most successful third party candidate in our history and it was all a hoax.

    Sanders was the most cruel of all the candidates.
    In the Town Hall done a few days ago, a local small business owner (hair salons) told Sanders that she was unable to afford to expand her business to 50 or more employees because of the Obamacare requirement that mandated she supply health insurance to her employees. A mandate that she saw would be unaffordable where she would not only lose any reasonably attractive profit margin, she probably would lose money as a business which, of course, would cause her to either raise her prices and risk losing too many customers or she would have to close or risk failure. She stated that because of this she has intentionally stayed at 5 locations and under the 50 employee threshold despite that she has been successful with her business and knows she could otherwise remain successful in expansion without this draconian mandate. Note: she started out with one location and now had five.

    Guess what Sanders said? He essentially stated that his opinion was that it is moral duty of businesses to pay for their employees' healthcare (implying that it is governments duty and responsibility to make sure they do, "because we know the greedy business owners would never do this unless we make them do it." Sanders then added that she was unfairly competing against the larger businesses in her same field by offering a more competitive price implying she was the bad guy!

    Small business is the heart and soul of what folks from around the world call "the American Dream."

    So let me give a real world example of this - My wife just immigrated legally to the US from Colombia. She is an artist. In Colombia, she was faced with having to sell her paintings without her name on them. She was faced with having to sell the paintings to galleries who put on her art the names of "artists" they were "selling" (some who didn't even actually do art)! They offered her a small amount over her costs of the materials to create the art and yet were selling these pieces of art for over four times what they would pay to Cristina and with someone else's name on the art! This was Cristina's only option in getting her paintings into galleries and she lived in the huge city of Medellin!

    At least now and here in the US, she has the ability to create and perhaps sell her art with her own name on it, establish a name for herself which in time might (and clearly as long as her art is appreciated) allow her prices to rise too. We have already found interested parties who are willing to display her art for sale in their shops under her name and for a much fairer commission percentage. We also have found a web designer that is willing to help her create a website for displaying and selling her art, a very small investment on our part to make this happen.

    The things that Sanders and the extreme left stand for is to kill the American Dream.

    I thank "God" (the Universe, my lucky stars, etc.) every day that at least for now, there's a chance the American Dream, which supports entrepreneurial dynamics, may be restored and preserved as opposed to destroyed as it clearly has been (see turiya's posts).

    I also pray its not too late.
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    I seem to be constantly on a different page around here.

    I won't pretend to have a clue about how Obamacare works (is there a greater burden on the business owner? than in Canada or elsewhere?), but I strongly believe in universal healthcare and I am proud to live in a country that believes in it too.

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    It's good we all have things we believe in. It's good when what we believe in is acted upon by those we empower to do so.

    Here's the latest poll numbers from Morning Consult with regards to many of Trump's EOs -

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    I would far prefer they don't much like Trump (His approval rating is 47% to 46% from this same polling company data release), yet approve of what he's already getting done.

    Imagine... a President that actually accomplishes what folks want... accomplishes what they actually support... and the above data doesn't even include the daily jobs outlook changing for the good before our very eyes.

    Isn't it all about substance?
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    I seem to be constantly on a different page around here.

    I won't pretend to have a clue about how Obamacare works (is there a greater burden on the business owner? than in Canada or elsewhere?), but I strongly believe in universal healthcare and I am proud to live in a country that believes in it too.
    All I really know, or have heard, about Obamacare is that its simply a form of tax that squeezes the individual to extract $$$ from. As for businesses, they get hit a tax for going over a certain number of full-time employees. Thus, to avoid such a thing businesses hire more part-time workers. This also makes the jobs stats & unemployment statistics look better for the Ex-President Obama's Legacy that he has touted about so much.

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    For me, I just don't like doctors, I very much try to avoid doctors by taking care of my own health. And because I am self-employed, I don't work for an employer. For a time, I kept receiving forms in the mail that I was suppose to sign & return, but would just promptly throw them in the waste can.

    Then, I started receiving Social Security payments (small amounts for the few times I was an employee - paying SS payments). But then, I knew it would come, sooner or later... the government started taking out about $125 each month for Obamacare. Without my choosing... they are just ripping me off. Its the same 'ol ponzi scheme, just comes through the back door. Its a damn tax for growing older!
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    Clif speaks of the "Awakening Wave"... ATMs / Credit Freeze coming soon ==> mid-March 2017...

    Clif High: This Is Not A Drill!
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    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    All I really know, or have heard, about Obamacare is that its simply a form of tax that squeezes the individual to extract $$$ from. As for businesses, they get hit a tax for going over a certain number of full-time employees. Thus, to avoid such a thing businesses hire more part-time workers. This also makes the jobs stats & unemployment statistics look better for the Ex-President Obama's Legacy that he has touted about so much.
    This specific component of Obamacare is -

    Quote The ObamaCare Employer Mandate / Employer Penalty, originally set to begin in 2014, was delayed until 2015 / 2016. ObamaCare’s “employer mandate” is a requirement that all businesses with 50 or more full-time equivalent employees (FTE) provide health insurance to at least 95% of their full-time employees and dependents up to age 26, or pay a fee.
    This "fee" is penalty, determined to be legal because it was called "a tax."

    It is a gun held to the head of small businesses who wish to grow past the 50 full time employee number.

    insane - see here

    ...and yes, the result is that a ton of folks would get 29 hour jobs and thus had to get two just to make it and would be burdened with having to commute to two jobs and would face having nowhere to go in either one! Great idea huh? Thanks Obama.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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