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    'Majority in Leading EU Nations Support
    Trump-Style Travel Ban'
    Poll of more than 10,000 people in 10
    countries...




    1:46 PM - 8 Feb 2017
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    'Trump administration seen as more truthful
    than news media'
    bit.ly/2k4b0imEmersonPoll


    2:07 PM - 8 Feb 2017
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    Sen.Richard Blumenthal, who never fought in
    Vietnam when he said for years he had (major
    lie), now misrepresents what Judge Gorsuch
    told him?


    3:57 AM - 9 Feb 2017
    ________________________________
    Chris Cuomo, in his interview with Sen.
    Blumenthal, never asked him about his
    long-term lie about his brave "service" in
    Vietnam. FAKE NEWS!


    5:19 AM - 9 Feb 2017
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    Sen. McCain should not be talking about the
    success or failure of a mission to the media.
    Only emboldens the enemy! He's been losing
    so....


    5:26 AM - 9 Feb 2017
    ________________________________
    ...long he doesn't know how to win anymore,
    just look at the mess our country is in - bogged
    down in conflict all over the place. Our hero..


    5:31 AM - 9 Feb 2017
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    ... and part three of the three part tweet...

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    Tom Fitton, President of Judicial Watch weekly update.... Oh look, 'new' Clinton emails [@8:00]... was in D.C. court I believe on Tuesday - will have update tomorrow...

    Tom Fitton discussing the left's attack
    on Trump, and the rule of law.

    (Published on Feb 3, 2017)
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    Live updates: 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals
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    (I got a feeling about this )

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    Court Of Appeals Unanimously Rejects Trump's Travel Ban: Full Ruling


    "We hold that the government has not shown a likelihood of success on the merits of its appeal, nor has it shown that failure to enter a stay would cause irreparable injury, and we therefore deny its emergency motion for a stay."

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    Well, if your feeling is that the 29 page judgment by three bi-partisan federal judges will be a unanimous and total rejection of Trump's Executive Order, then you'd be correct.

    Off we go to the Supreme Court!

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    Over 80% of the rulings made by the 9th circuit that went to the Supreme Court over the last several years were...

    ...overturned.

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    Well, if your feeling is that the 29 page judgment by three bi-partisan federal judges will be a unanimous and total rejection of Trump's Executive Order, then you'd be correct.

    Off we go to the Supreme Court!
    B.
    Well, nobody's perfect... And yes, will see you in court!

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    Napolitano On 9th Circuit Ruling:
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    dave from x22 is great. if you enjoy him might I recommend sgt report as another very quality youtube channel along the same line of thinking




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    Another x22 Report... I'm getting to really like this news connection...

    The World Is Waking Up
    And The Elite Do Not Like It

    Episode 1198b
    (Published on Feb 7, 2017)

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    All I really know, or have heard, about Obamacare is that its simply a form of tax that squeezes the individual to extract $$$ from. As for businesses, they get hit a tax for going over a certain number of full-time employees. Thus, to avoid such a thing businesses hire more part-time workers. This also makes the jobs stats & unemployment statistics look better for the Ex-President Obama's Legacy that he has touted about so much......
    I suggest you look at the issues stemming from Obamacare through a much bigger lens. It was FOREMOST about deepening the hooks of CONTROL in crucial ways, way besides the financial hooks, and especially, as a major cog in the wheel of the big brother dossier on an individual applying the technological advances now available. I was shocked at all the irrelevant to health personal questions on the Obamacare application, it's a major data mining ploy. The benefits stemming from this crucial information cog to the controllers are monstrous.

    Through the connection of all technologies... your personal habits are recorded/tracked through your phone, internet and cable, there are chips in your car, on your license and credit cards (and you if you're vaccinated), the 'smart' meters are tracking far more than your electricity and gas - but those patterns alone are revealing, your finances are tracked with the IRS, and then the big cog - your health, dna, vaccine history and family history are now also tied in with the data entered on you through forced Obamacare - all in one big dossier containing EVERYTHING with your name anywhere near it.

    This is very, very dangerous in the wrong hands. A lot is now inescapable if you want to live in society, but the less you can contribute the better. At least Trump is proposing taking the mandatory enrollment out.

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    Re: the ruling

    While our indoctrinated and excitable left continue their war against their Bogeyman the rest of us monitor for signs to assess just how entrenched globalist representatives have been planted in our country/government.

    The 'left' are unaware we're monitoring for them as well as they will be in the crosshairs of the globalists right behind and along side us. Just because conservative americans are first on the list to be crushed by the globalists doesn't mean the left tools are not on the list. They are just blissfully unaware of anything right now except their bogeyman.

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    Waves
    Thank you for bringing up the subject of Smart Meters. most appliances today are smart chipped, capable of being activated or shut off remotely. There's still enough folks who will resist that degree of control but obviously there is a belief amongst the ruling class who have ordered this technology roll-out that they intend us to be that controlled. There are parts of the country where the utility company comes accompanied by someone in law enforcement to insist the homeowner get the smart meter.

    So many don't understand that RATIONING will be a large part of the (new and improved) world order. If the left gain ascendency they will acquiesce to this type of control. That is when their identity politics will be used against them/us. If the masses, and this includes everyone, whites and non-whites, don't acquiesce to the rationing of resources (electricity, water, food) they could be accused of acting like Privileged White people who selfishly don't care about nature and other people, blah, blah, and you don't want to act like them, lol!! I have no doubt there will be a big irony to identity politics down the road in forcing various control techniques.

    People take flicking an electric switch for granted, running water for granted.... The guy about whom the movie The Big Short was largely created (played by Christian Bale) only has ONE asset he now invests in - Water. Why is that?

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    "The 'left' are unaware we're monitoring for them as well as they will be in the crosshairs of the globalists right behind and along side us. Just because conservative americans are first on the list to be crushed by the globalists doesn't mean the left tools are not on the list. They are just blissfully unaware of anything right now except their bogeyman."

    Some day, SOME DAY, Trump supporters will have the scales fall from their eyes and realize that their 'champion' has sold them out to the moneyed interests of globalism. When the legions of 'plundermonkeys' (Steven King's term) have destroyed the environment, driven the lower classes into destitution with slave wages and unaffordable health care and when only the children of the rich are able to attend decent schools, there will come a time - a "What have we done?" moment of horrified awareness. Then and only then will America be prepared to come together and start the rebirth of their stricken nation.

    Right now, the Trump supporters are just blissfully unaware of anything right now except their 'champion'.

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    dave from x22 is great. if you enjoy him might I recommend sgt report as another very quality youtube channel along the same line of thinking

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    The World Is Waking Up
    And The Elite Do Not Like It

    Episode 1198b
    (Published on Feb 7, 2017)
    video= https://youtube.com/watch?v=YYOdZn0cOM4
    Will take you up on that, Helene...

    2017: The Year of TRUTH BOMBS -- Bill Holter
    (Published on Feb 5, 2017)
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    "The 'left' are unaware we're monitoring for them as well as they will be in the crosshairs of the globalists right behind and along side us. Just because conservative americans are first on the list to be crushed by the globalists doesn't mean the left tools are not on the list. They are just blissfully unaware of anything right now except their bogeyman."

    Some day, SOME DAY, Trump supporters will have the scales fall from their eyes and realize that their 'champion' has sold them out to the moneyed interests of globalism. When the legions of 'plundermonkeys' (Steven King's term) have destroyed the environment, driven the lower classes into destitution with slave wages and unaffordable health care and when only the children of the rich are able to attend decent schools, there will come a time - a "What have we done?" moment of horrified awareness. Then and only then will America be prepared to come together and start the rebirth of their stricken nation.

    Right now, the Trump supporters are just blissfully unaware of anything right now except their 'champion'.

    B.
    so obsessed with a bogeyman, so viciously focused on personality - The left is like reacting to a person walking their dog, the dog takes a poop on their property so you shoot the dog owner. Whatever stupid things bogeyman said initially the reaction of the left has been 100x worse. Complete overreaction and Overkill, and overkill is always mental instability.

    So many who voted for trump, did so hesitantly, not having any other choice other than to continue voting for the end of the american republic, which the left has been self-destructively fashioning for decades, including both witting and unwitting destroyers. I wish I had a 'champion' as you put it. He was a gamble that I still don't regret and still has much to reveal. If he is being totally controlled that remains to be seen but we already know what is controlling the left. If the left succeeds in assisting the globalists to end america for their new world that remains to be seen as well.

    The non-left monitors the actions of the international ruling class, the left obediently obsesses over a bogeyman.

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    Waves
    Thank you for bringing up the subject of Smart Meters. most appliances today are smart chipped, capable of being activated or shut off remotely. There's still enough folks who will resist that degree of control but obviously there is a belief amongst the ruling class who have ordered this technology roll-out that they intend us to be that controlled. There are parts of the country where the utility company comes accompanied by someone in law enforcement to insist the homeowner get the smart meter.

    So many don't understand that RATIONING will be a large part of the (new and improved) world order. If the left gain ascendency they will acquiesce to this type of control. That is when their identity politics will be used against them/us. If the masses, and this includes everyone, whites and non-whites, don't acquiesce to the rationing of resources (electricity, water, food) they could be accused of acting like Privileged White people who selfishly don't care about nature and other people, blah, blah, and you don't want to act like them, lol!! I have no doubt there will be a big irony to identity politics down the road in forcing various control techniques.

    People take flicking an electric switch for granted, running water for granted.... The guy about whom the movie The Big Short was largely created (played by Christian Bale) only has ONE asset he now invests in - Water. Why is that?
    What Is Michael Burry Doing Today? Jan 5 2016

    Quote "Fresh, clean water cannot be taken for granted. And it is not — water is political, and litigious. Transporting water is impractical for both political and physical reasons, so buying up water rights did not make a lot of sense to me, unless I was pursuing a greater fool theory of investment — which was not my intention. What became clear to me is that food is the way to invest in water. That is, grow food in water-rich areas and transport it for sale in water-poor areas. This is the method for redistributing water that is least contentious, and ultimately it can be profitable, which will ensure that this redistribution is sustainable. A bottle of wine takes over 400 bottles of water to produce — the water embedded in food is what I found interesting."

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    What is wrong with the 9th Circuit Ruling? ...According to the Constitution (which is the true Champion for The People)....

    Jay Sekulow outlines problems
    with travel ban court ruling

    (Published on Feb 9, 2017)
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    (Published on Feb 8, 2017)
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    (Published on Feb 8, 2017)
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    "In the NFL teams are always willing to take a player from another team who was cut after training camp, especially if they are in the same division because that player knows the other teams play book. I can't help but to think Trump is doing the same thing here. These people may have aspired to work for the most powerful banking institution in the world, but after having seen how the sausage is made, they may just be willing to help destroy this evil institution."

    DNA, Your statement, above, is the most optimistic that I have ever read on any PM posting. I certainly hope that you are correct. I had supported Trump only because Clinton is far worse. What little hope I had for Trump evaporated when I saw his Goldman Sachs picks for his cabinet. Also, Trump seems to be in love with Netanyahoo. (Misspelling on purpose.) Now we must be concerned about a Trump war on Iran.

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    "The 'left' are unaware we're monitoring for them as well as they will be in the crosshairs of the globalists right behind and along side us. Just because conservative americans are first on the list to be crushed by the globalists doesn't mean the left tools are not on the list. They are just blissfully unaware of anything right now except their bogeyman."

    Some day, SOME DAY, Trump supporters will have the scales fall from their eyes and realize that their 'champion' has sold them out to the moneyed interests of globalism. When the legions of 'plundermonkeys' (Steven King's term) have destroyed the environment, driven the lower classes into destitution with slave wages and unaffordable health care and when only the children of the rich are able to attend decent schools, there will come a time - a "What have we done?" moment of horrified awareness. Then and only then will America be prepared to come together and start the rebirth of their stricken nation.

    Right now, the Trump supporters are just blissfully unaware of anything right now except their 'champion'.

    B.
    Your writing... this, shows in what you speak. It shows a blissful unawareness, or better to say - a forgetfulness (like so many), that the True Champion of the American people is the Constitution... it has been undermined & subjugated by the False song of Globalism...

    Oh, but I see you are but a Canadian, a closer colony of the Commonwealth 'Queen'... the Queen of Globalism... Canada only lay in the shadow of America... in the shadow of an American Constitution... as such, your viewing this Great American Reset from the bleacher seats of a globalist stadium... I would suggest to your Justin Trudeau to be wary of the Sauron in George Soros who he has welcomed into your nation with open arms...

    I would suggest to you: Turn your eyes upon your own nation, rather than cast judgement as to what is taking place below your southern border.


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    Video News Release: Chris Farrell Soundbites/Transcripts
    On the Issue of Voter Fraud

    FEBRUARY 10, 2017
    (Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch will host a special educational panel on Thursday, February 16, 2017, from 12 noon to 1 pm ET to discuss “The Voter Fraud Crisis.” The panel will be shot live in studio with a nationwide feed. Expert panelists will address the voter fraud and election integrity debate.

    A key member of the panel is Chris Farrell who is the director of investigations and research, and has been a member of the Board of Directors since September 2003. Chris served as a Military Intelligence Officer – specializing in Counterintelligence and Human Intelligence. He is a specialist in national security matters, specializing in unconventional warfare and terrorism.

    Cut One:
    Take-Away: “Voter fraud and voter registration fraud are real. It’s proven both statistically by sampling data from voter registration numbers and census numbers. There’s one county in Mississippi that has 240% more people registered to vote than actually live there.” [25 seconds]
    Chris Farrell: 'Voter fraud and
    voter registration fraud are real'

    (Published on Feb 10, 2017)
    __________________________________
    Cut Two:
    Take-Away: “Interestingly, we’ve had to fight the Obama administration concerning voter integrity. We have also had to sue sitting Republican secretaries of state. So in Indiana and Ohio, we filed lawsuits because Republican secretaries of state and Republican voting administrators weren’t terribly interested in coming up with a plan because it’s real work. You have to go in – and they are not well staffed and they might not be well funded – but they have got to go in and go through the rolls, and find duplicates, find people, and if you are looking at dates of birth and you have someone who is listed on the rolls as 115, they probably are not a legitimate voter, they probably should have been removed.” [52 seconds]
    Chris Farrell: 'We have also had to sue
    sitting Republican secretaries of state'

    (Published on Feb 10, 2017)
    __________________________________

    Cut Three:
    Take-Away: “There’s two parts of the national voter registration act. Section 7 talks about going out and registering everybody who’s eligible – that’s a good thing – it casts a wide net. Because we want to make sure there is a lot of participation and that if you are eligible to vote you should go out and vote. Section 8 though – right behind that – says that the secretaries of state and the county officials and voter registration offices must purge their voter rolls, check them, and make sure they are complete and accurate. In large part you see a lot of folks on the left are very excited about Section 7 of the law, they are not too excited about Section 8. They are not interested in having complete and accurate voter rolls. They just want everyone under the sun to get out and vote. But to really have some integrity to the process, to really have confidence in our voting system, you need to go out and try and enroll everyone that is eligible but in the very same breathe you need to make sure the voter rolls themselves are accurate, true and correct.” [1:19]
    Chris Farrell: 'There’s two parts of the
    national voter registration act'

    (Published on Feb 10, 2017)

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    Shortly after Trump took office, and before Rex Tillerson was even confirmed as Secretary of State, a slew of State Department officials were removed from their positions (or were forced to resign) as part of an effort to “clean house” at the State Department. The whole affair was haphazardly covered by the media, especially by Jeff Bezos’s blog, which insinuated that the departures were “an ongoing mass exodus of senior Foreign Service officers who don’t want to stick around for the Trump era.”

    Further analysis revealed that the officials were actually removed from their positions shortly after Tillerson visited the State Department office in Foggy Bottom prior to his confirmation:
    “Any implication that that these four people quit is wrong,” one senior State Department official said. “These people are loyal to the secretary, the President and to the State Department. There is just not any attempt here to dis the President. People are not quitting and running away in disgust. This is the White House cleaning house.”
    And, just a few weeks after the fact, it appears we know why Tillerson was so quick to purge existing staffers: he just didn’t trust them. It also appears his mistrust was more than justified.

    On January 29th, United States Special Forces executed an operation inside Yemen, against al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), with the aim of gathering intelligence and killing leaders of the group. The raid was planned under the Obama administration, but the decision to execute the raid was “punted” to Trump, using the pretext of waiting for a “low loom” (moonless) night to execute the raid with maximum secrecy:
    While the operation had been proposed, it was never green-lighted. Kahl said Obama felt going the mission would mark a “significant escalation” in Yemen and should be left to the next administration to decide.

    “Obama … believed this represented a significant escalation of U.S. involvement in Yemen, and therefore … thought the next administration should take a careful look and run a careful process,” he told the WSJ.

    In addition, defense officials expected the Trump administration to be more willing to approve dangerous missions, something that was almost certainly known by any remaining personnel who stayed on after Obama left office:
    While seemingly indicative of a more aggressive stance by Trump, one official described the raid and new proposal as an outgrowth of earlier Obama-era operations that have pushed al-Qaida militants from their sanctuaries into areas and provided more opportunities for U.S. strikes.
    “We expect an easier approval cycle [for operations] under this administration,” another defense official said.


    Navy SEAL William “Ryan” Owens

    Though the Trump administration attempted to push the raid as a success, at very best, the mission was anything but, resulting in the death of Navy SEAL William “Ryan” Owens, as well as injuries to three other servicemen. While the commandos did everything necessary to maintain the element of surprise, it appears as though AQAP adversaries on the ground had advance warning of the attack:
    “Initial reports are always wrong, but it doesn’t appear to be a failure of planning or intelligence,” said the former special forces officer.

    Almost immediately, the raiding force on the ground took intense fire, according to the briefing paper and a senior military official. Occupants of the targeted house and its compound, along with their guard force, moved to a separate cluster of houses nearby where families, including women and children, were staying. Armed women fired on the U.S. and Emirati forces.

    “There were a lot of female combatants who were part of this,” said Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, the Pentagon’s chief spokesman, on Monday. “We saw during this operation, as it was taking place, that female fighters ran to pre-established positions — as though they had trained to be ready, and trained to be combatants — and engaged with us.”

    While most know about the Yemen raid, most do not know about the dismissal of the three Aman brothers, Abid, Imran, and Jamal Awan. On February 2nd, they were abruptly removed from their positions of managing information technology for the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Though they were initially suspected merely of stealing equipment, a connection with the previously-hacked computers of Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) revealed something far more sinister:
    Three members of the intelligence panel and five members of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs were among the dozens of members who employed the suspects on a shared basis. The two committees deal with many of the nation’s most sensitive issues and documents, including those related to the war on terrorism.
    As Mad World News reported, the Aman brothers were hired by the Obama administration, and access to top secret information regarding military operations. The committees they allegedly worked for had access to “the most sensitive and secretive government intelligence, including covert anti-terrorism activity… including the Yemen operation”:


    The House Oversight Committee
    The brothers were assigned access to three members of the intelligence panel and five members of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs along with dozens of congressmen who employed the suspects on a shared basis. This gave them direct access to our military secrets, like missions carried out by Navy SEAL Team Six.

    They retained their jobs after Obama left, which is not unheard of since their positions were not seen as political appointments. However, they were fired by Trump’s administration within hours after Navy SEAL William Ryan Owens was killed in Yemen during the top secret raid on Al-Qaeda operatives.

    So, in case you’ve gotten lost, here’s a recap of the timeline of events:
    • Jan 20 – Trump takes office, and DoD officials are expecting him to be more willing to approve dangerous missions
    • Jan 26 – Rex Tillerson visits State Department headquarters prior to his confirmation, and either terminates or forces the resignation of many existing State Department personnel
    • Jan 29 – The botched Yemen raid is executed, resulting in the death of Navy SEAL Owens
    • Feb 1 – Rex Tillerson is confirmed by President Trump as Secretary of State
    • Feb 2 – The Awan brothers are terminated on suspicion that they accessed congressional computers without permission
    As Mad World News previously stated...
    “…it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to connect the dots. The firing of the Awan brothers is linked to the Yemen raid where al-Qaeda knew we were coming, and it tragically ended with Navy SEAL Owens being killed in action.”
    The mainstream media seemed far more interested in obfuscating the details regarding the Tillerson terminations than they were in covering what could be one of the most dangerous intelligence leaks in years, of which there has been but a peep out of any major news outlet. Captain Joseph R. John (Navy-Ret.) has stated that he believes the Muslim Brotherhood “fifth column” has “infiltrated U.S. Government,” and if he is correct, the Awan brothers could very well be a part of this infiltration.

    Yet, there as been but a peep of information about the Awan brothers from nearly all major news outlets. Are they in jail? What are they accused of? Does the Trump administration suspect them of leaking details about military operations to terrorist organizations? And most importantly, if so, did these three men directly or indirectly contribute to the death of Owens during the Yemen raid?

    One thing is for certain – as Politico seemed to take delight in stating, “Trying to nail down who the leakers are is like trying to count the cockroaches under the couch.” However, it seems most of the “leaks” are coming from Obama holdovers. Which makes Tillerson’s “cleaning house” look like not just the correct move, it leaves you wondering if he did enough cleaning house.



    Just don’t expect to hear that from the mainstream media anytime soon.

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    Last edited by turiya; 10th February 2017 at 21:59.

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