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    “Gentlemen! I too have been a close observer of the doings of the Bank of the United States. I have had men watching you for a long time, and am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves. I have determined to rout you out, and by the Eternal, (bringing his fist down on the table) I will rout you out!”Andrew Jackson
    “There is nothing the political establishment will not do, and no lie they will not tell, to hold on to their prestige and power at your expense. The Washington establishment, and the financial and media corporations that fund it, exists for only one reason: to protect and enrich itself. This is a crossroads in the history of our civilization that will determine whether or not We The People reclaim control over our government. The political establishment that is trying everything to stop us, is the same group responsible for our disastrous trade deals, massive illegal immigration, and economic and foreign policies that have bled this country dry.

    The political establishment has brought about the destruction of our factories and our jobs, as they flee to Mexico, China and other countries throughout the world. It’s a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth, and put that money into the pockets of a handful of large corporations and political entities.”
    – Donald Trump
    Andrew Jackson was a bigger than life figure who lived from the early stages of the American Revolution until the country was on the verge of splitting apart over slavery and states’ rights issues. Born in the Carolinas shortly after his father died in an accident, he acted as a courier during the Revolutionary War. Andrew and his brother Robert were captured by the British and held as prisoners and nearly starved to death in captivity.

    When Andrew refused to clean the boots of a British officer, the officer slashed him with a sword, leaving deep scars on his left hand and head. His brother died of smallpox and his mother from cholera in 1781, leaving him an orphan at the age of 14. He blamed the British for their deaths and held an intense hatred of the British for the rest of his life.

    Jackson was a grudge holder. He was a courageous military hero, nicknamed Old Hickory by his troops because of his toughness. He was combative and vindictive. He was a self-made lawyer, military leader and statesman. He was a wealthy plantation owner and merchant. Over one hundred and fifty slaves worked on his plantation.

    He fought Indians, the British, politicians, and bankers. He was scorned and ridiculed by the press. Establishment politicians cheated him out of a presidential victory, but that loss motivated him to crush his political enemies in the next election. He was a devoted dependable friend to his compatriots and a steadfast adversary to those who crossed him.

    If you think the fake news media and vitriolic political campaigns, personally attacking the families of candidates was a modern day phenomenon, you would be badly mistaken. American politics sinking into the sewer and sensationalistic journalism existed from the earliest days of our country. Jackson’s controversial marriage to Rachel Robards made Jackson resentful towards any attack on her honor. He had mistakenly married her before her divorce was official. An attack on their honor published in a local Nashville newspaper led Jackson to challenge Charles Dickinson to a duel.

    Charles Dickinson was considered an expert shot. Jackson decided to let Dickinson fire first, betting his aim might be off in his haste. Dickinson did fire first striking Jackson just below the heart. The musket ball remained lodged in his lung for the rest of his life. Under the rules of dueling, Dickinson had to remain still as Jackson took aim and killed him. Jackson’s behavior in the duel outraged men of honor in Tennessee, who called it a brutal, cold-blooded killing and saddled Jackson with a reputation as a violent, vengeful man. As a result, he became a social outcast.

    Jackson’s wound didn’t keep him from becoming a national military hero nine years later by leading his outnumbered troops to an overwhelming victory over the British at the Battle of New Orleans during the War of 1812. His hatred for the British going back to the Revolutionary War likely motivated him to defend New Orleans to the death. Jackson took command of the defenses, directing 5,000 militia from various Western states. He was a strict officer but was popular with his troops. Jackson’s soldiers won a crushing victory over 7,500 attacking British soldiers.


    The British had 2,037 casualties: 291 dead (including three senior generals), 1,262 wounded, and 484 captured or missing. The Americans had 71 casualties: 13 dead, 39 wounded, and 19 missing. This victory propelled him to national prominence and spurred his presidential aspirations. The common man saw Jackson as a populist hero. He continued to build his militaristic resume by defeating the Seminole and Creek Indians in Florida, who were secretly supported by the British and Spanish.

    In another example of history rhyming, the 1824 presidential election was far more dysfunctional and corrupt than the most recent election campaign. There was essentially one political party, the Democrat-Republican Party. The states put forth four candidates: Andrew Jackson, William Crawford, John Quincy Adams, and Henry Clay. In a hotly contested campaign, filled with nasty accusations and condemnations, Jackson won the popular vote and a plurality of the electoral votes, but not a majority. Therefore, the decision went to the House of Representatives. As an establishment outsider, Jackson was at a disadvantage.

    In what became known as the “Corrupt Bargain”, Henry Clay, the current Speaker of the House, convinced Congress to elect Adams, who then made Clay his Secretary of State. For the next four years Jackson and his supporters railed against the Adams administration calling it illegitimate and tainted by corruption and an aristocratic governing style. The Jacksonians rightly denounced the Adams administration for its pork barrel spending and rewarding of special interests. Jackson’s defeat burnished his political credentials as many voters believed the “man of the people” had been robbed by the “corrupt aristocrats of the East”.
    “I weep for the liberty of my country when I see at this early day of its successful experiment that corruption has been imputed to many members of the House of Representatives, and the rights of the people have been bartered for promises of office.”Andrew Jackson
    He learned from his mistakes and built a coalition of support in 1828, with John C. Calhoun as his running mate and Martin Van Buren as a key ally. He created the Democratic Party and when his opponents referred to him as “jackass” he embraced the insult and used it as a symbol for his campaign. The donkey later became the symbol of the Democratic Party. The campaign was mean and personal with insults and accusation flying in the press. It reached a low point when the press accused Jackson’s wife Rachel of bigamy. Jackson won the election in an electoral landslide. Rachel died suddenly on December 22, 1828, before his inauguration, and was buried on Christmas Eve. The stress of the election led to her heart attack. He blamed Adams and his cronies for her death.

    Jackson’s eight year presidency marked a turning point in American politics. He rode a wave of populism to victory and it marked the first time political power had passed from establishment elites to ordinary voters based in political parties. Jackson’s philosophy as President followed much in the same line as Thomas Jefferson, advocating Republican values held by the Revolutionary War generation. He attempted to conduct his presidency with high moral standards, but ultimately fell short.

    He attempted to limit the Federal government, but when South Carolina opposed the tariff law he took a strong line in favor of nationalism and against secession. He also used the power of the Federal government to forcefully relocate Indian tribes to west of the Mississippi. He despised the moneyed interests and dismantled the Second Bank of the United States. His actions indirectly led to the Panic of 1837.

    In another occurrence with similarities to Trump’s cabinet selections, Jackson believed the president’s power was derived from the common man. Instead of choosing hand-picked party cronies for his cabinet, he decided choosing businessmen, who would get things done and follow his lead, was the better course. Having headstrong businessmen with huge egos and vicious gossip mongering wives in his administration would have fit in nicely in our present day degraded Kardashian selfie culture. Salacious rumors and sex scandals led to bitter partisanship between Eaton, Calhoun and Van Buren. Jackson was forced to fire and revamp his entire cabinet in 1830.

    The issue which most reflected Jackson as the president of the common man versus the vested interests was his struggle against Nicholas Biddle and the Second Bank of the United States. It was chartered in 1816 by James Madison in an effort to restore an economy ravaged by the War of 1812. Biddle attempted to renew its charter in 1832 and successfully got the renewal through Congress.

    Jackson, believing that Bank was a corrupt monopoly whose stock was mostly held by foreigners, vetoed the bill. Jackson used the issue to endorse his democratic values, contending the Bank was being run by a den of vipers for the benefit of the wealthy elite. Jackson stated the Bank made “the rich richer and the potent more powerful”. He never stopped fighting for the common man.
    “You are a den of vipers. I intend to rout you out and by the Eternal God I will rout you out. If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning.” Andrew Jackson
    His veto became the primary issue in the 1832 presidential campaign against Henry Clay, as his opponents rebuked his veto as the work of a demagogue, claiming he was using class warfare as a ploy to get the support of the common man. Proving a populist message brought directly to the people can defeat an establishment machine, Jackson crushed Clay in the election, with 55% of the popular vote and receiving 219 electoral votes to Clay’s 49. He warned the people against allowing central bankers to take control of the government. We didn’t heed his warning. Whether Trump has the courage of Jackson in taking on the Central banker den of vipers is yet to be seen.
    “The bold effort the present (central) bank had made to control the government … are but premonitions of the fate that await the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it.” Andrew Jackson
    Jackson knew powerful banking and corporate interests were the antithesis of how a government by the people, for the people and of the people should function. He also knew debt and fiat paper created a speculative gambling economy, not beneficial to the common man over the long-term. Giving away the power of the people to bankers and corporations created as much havoc and suffering in the 1830s as it has today.
    “The mischief springs from the power which the moneyed interest derives from a paper currency which they are able to control, from the multitude of corporations with exclusive privileges which they have succeeded in obtaining, and unless you become more watchful in your states and check this spirit of monopoly and thirst for exclusive privileges you will in the end find that the most important powers of government have been given or bartered away.” Andrew Jackson
    After disposing of the Bank of the United States in 1833, Jackson removed federal deposits from the bank and the money-lending functions were taken over by the multitude of local and state banks across America. The national economy boomed as the federal government coffers overflowed with revenue from tariffs and the sale of public lands in the west. In January 1835, Jackson paid off the entire national debt, the only time in U.S. history that has been accomplished. He rightfully saw the national debt as a curse, only benefitting the moneyed interests.
    “I am one of those who do not believe that a national debt is a national blessing, but rather a curse to a republic; inasmuch as it is calculated to raise around the administration a moneyed aristocracy dangerous to the liberties of the country.”Andrew Jackson
    I find it amusing historians of a Keynesian persuasion blame Jackson’s dismantling of the central bank in 1833 for the Panic of 1837 and the subsequent four year depression. The true cause of the Panic and depression was reckless land speculation by the rich, financed by state and local bankers who failed to exercise due diligence, risk management or restraint on their lending practices. Does that sound familiar (2008 Financial Crisis)? Bankers have been the perpetual cause of financial crisis since the inception of this country.

    Jackson was forced to rein in the rampant credit bacchanal by issuing the Specie Circular, which required buyers of government land to pay in specie (gold or silver coins). This was another example of when the tide goes out you see who was swimming naked. The credit speculators had no gold or silver and bank losses threw the country into panic and depression. Just as the Fed induced housing boom and the Wall Street mortgage and derivatives control fraud were the cause of the 2008 financial crisis, it was banker fueled land speculation which caused the 1837 Panic. Jackson was just the pin popping the bubble before it got even bigger.


    The non-stop speculation about assassinating Trump as the left wing solution to losing a fair election has reached epic proportions on social media. Of course, cowardly social justice warriors, who don’t believe in free speech, election results, the Constitution, or the rule of law, are good at making hollow threats and causing destruction within their liberal enclaves of hate, but they don’t have the balls to actually attempt an assassination. Back in Jackson’s day of duels and face to face justice, there were no safe spaces and trigger warnings.

    The first assassination attempt on a sitting president occurred in 1835 outside the U.S. Capitol when Richard Lawrence, an unemployed house painter from England, aimed two pistols at President Jackson as he was leaving the East Portico after a funeral. Both pistols misfired. As Lawrence was disarmed and restrained by, among others, Davey Crockett, Jackson attacked him with his cane. Lawrence blamed Jackson for the loss of his job.

    Afterwards, due to public curiosity concerning the double misfires, the pistols were tested and retested. Each time they performed perfectly. Many believed Jackson had been protected by the same Providence they believed also protected their young nation. The incident became a part of the Jacksonian mythos.


    There is no doubt Jackson and Trump have similarities in their confrontational natures, blunt talk and fiery tempers. Historian H.W. Brands noted how opponents were terrified of his temper in his autobiography of the iconic figure:
    “Observers likened him to a volcano, and only the most intrepid or recklessly curious cared to see it erupt…. His close associates all had stories of his blood-curling oaths, his summoning of the Almighty to loose His wrath upon some miscreant, typically followed by his own vow to hang the villain or blow him to perdition. Given his record – in duels, brawls, mutiny trials, and summary hearings – listeners had to take his vows seriously.”
    If twitter had existed in the 1830s, Jackson would have surely been hurling insults at his opponents and the feckless press. Jackson used his reputation for rage and fearsomeness to achieve his policy goals by intimidating his opponents. If you think Trump’s insults hurled at Hillary Clinton, Jeb Bush and Chuck Schumer have been too un-presidential like, consider Jackson’s final thoughts about his two most hated political opponents.
    “After eight years as President I have only two regrets: that I have not shot Henry Clay or hanged John C. Calhoun.” Andrew Jackson
    It is fascinating how the intellectual elites of Jackson’s time had the same level of contempt for the common man as the arrogant ruling elite have for the “deplorables” inhabiting the towns and hamlets of flyover America today. Alexis de Tocqueville, a pretentious French intellectual, and contemporary of Andrew Jackson, treated Jackson, his presidency, and his supporters disdainfully in his book Democracy in America, written during Jackson’s presidency. The haughty condescension of the rich and powerful elite towards the plebs has spanned the ages, with the NYT, Washington Post and CNN scornfully filling the role of Tocqueville today.
    “Far from wishing to extend the Federal power, the President belongs to the party which is desirous of limiting that power to the clear and precise letter of the Constitution, and which never puts a construction upon that act favorable to the government of the Union; far from standing forth as the champion of centralization, General Jackson is the agent of the state jealousies; and he was placed in his lofty station by the passions that are most opposed to the central government. It is by perpetually flattering these passions that he maintains his station and his popularity. General Jackson is the slave of the majority: he yields to its wishes, its propensities, and its demands–say, rather, anticipates and forestalls them.

    General Jackson stoops to gain the favor of the majority; but when he feels that his popularity is secure, he overthrows all obstacles in the pursuit of the objects which the community approves or of those which it does not regard with jealousy. Supported by a power that his predecessors never had, he tramples on his personal enemies, whenever they cross his path, with a facility without example; he takes upon himself the responsibility of measures that no one before him would have ventured to attempt. He even treats the national representatives with a disdain approaching to insult; he puts his veto on the laws of Congress and frequently neglects even to reply to that powerful body. He is a favorite who sometimes treats his master roughly.”
    Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America
    Andrew Jackson was most certainly a flawed human being, with a multitude of personal tragedies coalescing to form his persona and worldview. His hardscrabble upbringing, fighting nature, contempt for republican elitism, and disdain for the greedy acolytes of wealth and privilege, formed his political philosophy and popularity among average citizens. Jackson’s goal was to rid government of class preferences and shred the credit driven advantages of the wealthy minority, whose only concern was their personal wealth.

    He dedicated himself to ridding the government of those who exploited the majority to benefit the few. Equal rights and limited government while ensuring the wealthy establishment cronies could not enrich themselves at the public trough by capturing the governmental levers of power and plundering the nation’s wealth, was the vision espoused by the Jacksonians.

    By demonizing the moneyed aristocracy and supporting the common man, Jackson broadened electoral participation to include an overwhelming majority of white men. Jackson’s success in democratizing the political process works when an educated involved civic minded electorate is active in the process. As time passed and the electorate expanded, our democracy has devolved into a vote buying exercise of who promises the masses the most. Huge portions of the electorate are feeble minded, free sh¡t seeking ideologues, with no concern for the long-term sustainability of the nation. The voice of the people had been silenced by Deep State special interests until Trump’s unlikely victory in November.

    The Jacksonian Era of operating government for the benefit of the people was short lived, as the power of the elites reconstituted among the Northern business interests and Southern planters – ultimately leading to the Civil War resolution and further expansion of Federal government power and control. Jackson’s efforts were noble but ultimately a failure. Will Trump’s rhetoric of taking back government for the people ultimately fail? Can the rich and powerful vested interests be defeated? The odds are heavily against Trump, but we are in for a spectacular fireworks display as history unfolds.
    “It is to be regretted that the rich and powerful too often bend the acts of government to their selfish purposes. Distinctions in society will always exist under every just government. Equality of talents, of education, or of wealth cannot be produced by human institutions. In the full enjoyment of the gifts of Heaven and the fruits of superior industry, economy, and virtue, every man is equally entitled to protection by law; but when the laws undertake to add to these natural and just advantages artificial distinctions, to grant titles, gratuities, and exclusive privileges, to make the rich richer and the potent more powerful, the humble members of society—the farmers, mechanics, and laborers—who have neither the time nor the means of securing like favors to themselves, have a right to complain of the injustice of their Government.” Andrew Jackson
    In Part Two of this article I will ponder whether the Trumpian Era will see Trump’s populist agenda successfully implemented or whether we experience a spectacular failure.

    THE BURNING PLATFORM
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    Personally, I am sorry to see Lt Gen. Mike Flynn being 'pushed' out of his role with the Trump Administration... guess, we'll just have to see how this will go... Petraeus would be a bad, bad idea for his replacement, imo...

    What Flynn flap reveals about
    President Trump's inner circle

    (Published on Feb 13, 2017)
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    Krauthammer on Flynn:
    This is a cover-up without a crime

    (Published on Feb 13, 2017)
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    Trump Security Team "In Turmoil" After Flynn Resignation, Russia Accuses US Of "Paranoia"


    Less than a month into the new administration, President Trump security team has been plunged into "turmoil" following last night's unexpected resignation announcement by his now former National Security Advisor Mike Flynn.
    • Feb 14, 2017 7:55 AM


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    The real story here is why are there so many
    illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will
    these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea
    etc?


    6:28 AM - 14 Feb 2017
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    Trump Responds To Flynn Resignation: "The Real Story" Here Are The Illegal Leaks


    The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?
    • Feb 14, 2017 9:47 AM

    How can Trump combat the
    determined enemy from within?

    (Published on Feb 13, 2017)


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    So Joy Villa. yea the girl who had the balls to wear that amazing Trump dress to the Grammys. Bad-Ass right?




    Anyway, I thought I would post her song, the video is dirt cheap, but the song isn't bad in so far as modern music is concerned.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEVrGRcSoaY
    The conquering of self is truly greater than were one to conquer many worlds.
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    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    So Joy Villa. yea the girl who had the balls to wear that amazing Trump dress to the Grammys. Bad-Ass right?
    lol! Good one, DNA...

    Gutfeld on the hypocritical double standards of the MSM....

    Gutfeld: Media double standard
    over immigration raids

    (Published on Feb 13, 2017)
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    Watch Sean Spicer Explain What Trump Knew (And When) About Mike Flynn - Live Feed


    After a rather turbulent 24 hours for the Trump administration, Sean Spicer will take the podium momentarily to address questions from a press pool that will undoubtedly be eager to reveal and exploit new details about what Trump knew about Flynn's conversations with Russia and when he knew it.
    • Feb 14, 2017 1:16 PM
    Press Briefing with Press Secretary Sean Spicer
    (Actually Begins at 41:00)
    GOP Chair Of House Oversight Committee Declines Calls To Investigate Flynn Situation


    "I think that situation has taken care of itself..."
    • Feb 14, 2017 11:56 AM


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    I've kept off here Turiya as I get a bit post happy sometimes but this is one
    of the issues I've been waiting on , it may just be to keep the press happy ?
    but it is pretty sharp.....

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    I just posted this on the other thread..... (Spicer: Trump asked for Flynn's resignation)

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    Mod edit from Bill: Thanks for acknowledging that you do indeed 'get a bit post happy sometimes'. (I acknowledge that you do, too.)


    It's fine to cross-post — but within reason. When the cross-posts are long, and contain often more than one video, this really does cause
    1. pages to load slowly sometimes, and
    2. some members, who are following both threads anyway, to become irritated.
    My suggestion is to do as above (as per my edit), which is to just post the link to the original post, with a very brief content summary. THX.
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    Thanks Cider... I agree that you get a bit "post happy." And, what you've just now posted has already been posted in Post #65 (above your post) starting at 41:00... Please stick to posting on the other thread.
    I've left it entirely in your hands.
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    The Neocons and the “deep state” have
    neutered the Trump Presidency

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    Less than a month ago I warned that a ‘color revolution ‘ was taking place in the USA. My first element of proof was the so-called “investigation” which the CIA, FBI, NSA and others were conducting against President Trump’s candidate to become National Security Advisor, General Flynn. Tonight, the plot to get rid of Flynn has finally succeeded and General Flynn had to offer his resignation. Trump accepted it.

    Now let’s immediately get one thing out of the way: Flynn was hardly a saint or a perfect wise man who would single handedly saved the world. That he was not. However, what Flynn was is the cornerstone of Trump’s national security policy. For one thing, Flynn dared the unthinkable: he dared to declare that the bloated US intelligence community had to be reformed. Flynn also tried to subordinate the CIA and the Joint Chiefs to the President via the National Security Council. Put differently, Flynn tried to wrestle the ultimate power and authority from the CIA and the Pentagon and subordinate them back to the White House. Flynn also wanted to work with Russia. Not because he was a Russia lover, the notion of a Director of the DIA as a Putin-fan is ridiculous, but Flynn was rational, he understood that Russia was no threat to the USA or to Europe and that Russia had the West had common interests. That is another absolutely unforgivable crimethink in Washington DC.

    The Neocon run ‘deep state’ has now forced Flynn to resign under the idiotic pretext that he had a telephone conversation, on an open, insecure and clearly monitored, line with the Russian ambassador.

    And Trump accepted this resignation.

    Ever since Trump made it to the White House, he has taken blow after blow from the Neocon-run Ziomedia, from Congress, from all the Hollywood doubleplusgoodthinking “stars” and even from European politicians. And Trump took each blow without ever fighting back. Nowhere was his famous “you are fired!” to be seen. But I still had hope. I wanted to hope. I felt that it was my duty to hope.

    But now Trump has betrayed us all.

    Remember how Obama showed his true face when he hypocritically denounced his friend and pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.? Today, Trump has shown us his true face. Instead of refusing Flynn’s resignation and instead of firing those who dared cook up these ridiculous accusations against Flynn, Trump accepted the resignation. This is not only an act of abject cowardice, it is also an amazingly stupid and self-defeating betrayal because now Trump will be alone, completely alone, facing the likes of Mattis and Pence – hard Cold Warrior types, ideological to the core, folks who want war and simply don’t care about reality.

    Again, Flynn was not my hero. But he was, by all accounts, Trump’s hero. And Trump betrayed him.

    The consequences of this will be immense. For one thing, Trump is now clearly broken. It took the ‘deep state’ only weeks to castrate Trump and to make him bow to the powers that be. Those who would have stood behind Trump will now feel that he will not stand behind them and they will all move back away from him. The Neocons will feel elated by the elimination of their worst enemy and emboldened by this victory they will push on, doubling-down over and over and over again.

    It’s over, folks, the deep state has won.

    From now on, Trump will become the proverbial shabbos-goy, the errand boy of the Israel lobby. Hassan Nasrallah was right when he called him ‘an idiot’.

    The Chinese and Iranian will openly laugh. The Russians won’t – they will be polite, they will smile, and try to see if some common sense policies can still be salvaged from this disaster. Some might. But any dream of a partnership between Russia and the United States has died tonight.

    The EU leaders will, of course, celebrate. Trump was nowhere the scary bogeyman they feared. Turns out that he is a doormat – very good for the EU.

    Where does all this leave us – the millions of anonymous ‘deplorables’ who try as best we can to resist imperialism, war, violence and injustice?
    I think that we were right in our hopes because that is all we had – hopes. No expectations, just hopes. But now we objectively have very little reasons left to hope. For one thing, the Washington ‘swamp’ will not be drained. If anything, the swamp has triumphed. We can only find some degree of solace in two undeniable facts:
    1) Hillary would have been far worse than any version of a Trump Presidency.

    2) In order to defeat Trump, the US deep state has had to terribly weaken the US and the AngloZionist Empire. Just like Erdogan’ purges have left the Turkish military in shambles, the anti-Trump ‘color revolution’ has inflicted terrible damage on the reputation, authority and even credibility of the USA.
    The first one is obvious. So let me clarify the second one. In their hate-filled rage against Trump and the American people (aka “the basket of deplorables”) the Neocons have had to show their true face.

    By their rejection of the outcome of the elections, by their riots, their demonization of Trump, the Neocons have shown two crucial things:
    first, that the US democracy is a sad joke and that they, the Neocons, are an occupation regime which rules against the will of the American people. In other words, just like Israel, the USA has no legitimacy left.

    And since, just like Israel, the USA are unable to frighten their enemies, they are basically left with nothing, no legitimacy, no ability to coerce.
    So yes, the Neocons have won. But their victory is removes the last chance for the US to avoid a collapse.

    Trump, for all his faults, did favor the US, as a country, over the global Empire. Trump was also acutely aware that ‘more of the same’ was not an option. He wanted policies commensurate with the actual capabilities of the USA. With Flynn gone and the Neocons back in full control – this is over. Now we are going to be right back to ideology over reality.

    Trump probably could have made America, well, maybe not “great again”, but at least stronger, a major world power which could negotiate and use its leverage to get the best deal possible from the others. That’s over now. With Trump broken, Russia and China will go right back to their pre-Trump stance: a firm resistance backed by a willingness and capability to confront and defeat the USA at any level.

    I am quite sure that nobody today is celebrating in the Kremlin. Putin, Lavrov and the others surely understand exactly what happened. It is as if Khodorkovsy would have succeeded in breaking Putin in 2003. In fact, I have to credit Russian analysts who for several weeks already have been comparing Trump to Yanukovich, who also was elected by a majority of the people and who failed to show the resolve needed to stop the ‘color revolution’ started against him. But if Trump is the new Yanukovich, will the US become the next Ukraine?

    Flynn was very much the cornerstone of the hoped-for Trump foreign policy. There was a real chance that he would reign in the huge, bloated and all-powerful three letter agencies and that he would focus US power against the real enemy of the West: the Wahabis. With Flynn gone, this entire conceptual edifice has now come down. We are going to be left with the likes of Mattis and his anti-Iranian statements. Clowns who only impress other clowns.

    Today Neocon victory is a huge event and it will probably be completely misrepresented by the official media. Ironically, Trump supporters will also try to minimize it all. But the reality is that barring a most unlikely last-minute miracle, it’s over for Trump and the hopes of millions of people in the USA and the rest of the world who had hoped that the Neocons could be booted out of power by means of a peaceful election. That is clearly not going to happen.
    I see very dark clouds on the horizon.
    The Saker
    UPDATE 1: Just to stress an important point: the disaster is not so much that Flynn is out but what Trump’s caving in to the Neocon tells us about Trump’s character (or lack thereof). Ask yourself – after what happened to Flynn, would you stick your neck out for Trump?

    UPDATE 2: Just as predicted – the Neocons are celebrating and, of course, doubling-down:

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    Well, with the facts on the table like we've been fed by Spicer today (Trump asked for Flinn's resignation) , it seems like Trump flinched.

    not good.
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    Well, with the facts on the table like we've been fed by Spicer today (Trump asked for Flinn's resignation) , it seems like Trump flinched.

    not good.
    Yep... read my post above yours.
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    Well, with the facts on the table like we've been fed by Spicer today (Trump asked for Flinn's resignation) , it seems like Trump flinched.

    not good.
    Yep... read my post above yours.
    Thanks.
    I read that Saker article from Herve already some hours back in another thread and still hoped that other explanations might offer a more hopeful perspective. Perhaps some facts that we were still unaware off.

    In any case, let's not loose all hope at once.

    Let's see how the coming weeks will unfold.
    .. and! who will be the successor for Flinn.
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    Well, with the facts on the table like we've been fed by Spicer today (Trump asked for Flinn's resignation) , it seems like Trump flinched.

    not good.
    Yep... read my post above yours.
    Thanks.
    I read that Saker article from Herve already some hours back in another thread and still hoped that other explanations might offer a more hopeful perspective. Perhaps some facts that we were still unaware off.

    In any case, let's not loose all hope at once.

    Let's see how the coming weeks will unfold.
    .. and! who will be the successor for Flinn.
    Hi Eram - if you noticed in the above Saker article, I underlined the statement:
    ..."barring a most unlikely last-minute miracle..."
    If you've been following the Trump Saga like most of us, here... Trump seems to be well-protected. Almost, as if there is some guiding force that's got his back. He's been a phenomenon that most have been unable to understand how he has things happen for him... Totally Unpredictable... Overcoming tremedous odds => The election win - the Democrats - his own Republican Party - the Media - the Deep State.

    My Higher Source tells me that this man is not done! as The Saker article says.

    Its truly been an awesome thing to watch - this Trump thing - its a truly remarkable journey to be on, just watching this...

    So, I just say, hang on to your hat(s), because the show is, still, just getting started...
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    Yep, Turiya, the show is just getting started. I would lay odds that what is happening is Trump is just being himself. He doesn't know what is going on in the world so is very vulnerable to manipulation along those lines. He has proclaimed recently that he wants Russia to give Crimea back to the Ukraine. Is this an about face? No, the man probably had no idea where and what Crimea is or was, who it belonged to, or any of those other 'nuances.'

    Trump supporters have been projecting their own diligent understanding of foreign affairs onto Trump and creating a narrative where good is battling evil. In fact, aside from his ego, Trump is kind of vacuous and blank. He stands for nothing at all, other than for himself.

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    Oh! And, here's another one that's hit the 'ignore' list... you guys ought to get together & play some Pinochle, as I can rightly assume playing Hearts is beyond possible...


    Hillary Trolls Michael Flynn On Twitter With PizzaGate Reference


    "Dear Mike Flynn & Mike Flynn Jr., What goes around COMETS around."
    • Feb 14, 2017 2:15 PM

    Meet The Man Most Likely To Replace Mike Flynn


    Meet Vice Admiral Robert Harward: former deputy commander of the U.S. Central Command and Chief Executive Officer for Lockheed Martin in the UAE, who has emerged as the front-runner to replace Michael Flynn as the White House national security adviser.
    • Feb 14, 2017 2:37 PM

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    Another media example that takes one bad apple, throws away the case and inflicts harm on the apple picker.
    I for one, do not listen to propaganda and make my enjoyment watching bullies fling mud at each other. Especially when No One has the real facts or the real story.
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    Another media example that takes one bad apple, throws away the case and inflicts harm on the apple picker.
    I for one, do not listen to propaganda and make my enjoyment watching bullies fling mud at each other. Especially when No One has the real facts or the real story.
    From my view, Lt. General Michael Flynn had done well in his attempt to convince the Obama administration NOT to fund & equip the so-called "moderate" rebels in Syria (much to the joy of war mongering Neocons John McCain & Lindsay Graham). In an interview with noted award winning journalist Mehdi Hasan, Flynn showed that he, at least, understood that the direction that the Obama administration had taken was ill advised, while ignoring the "intelligence" that he provided, as being head of DIA.

    In this regard, Flynn fell short in understanding that it is the Deep State / CIA lay at the very root with its creation of the Radical Islamic Terrorism - See George Webb videos, regarding the Rat Lines that involve Dyncorp (CIA) & several military generals feeding Stinger missiles to the ISIS / terrorists.

    So, now that Flynn has been pushed off the Trump Team, that leaves the door open for Trump to receive better intelligence as to what is really going on with the crap that underlies, not only ISIS in Syria, but what has been going on with the coup in Ukraine.

    Time will tell...

    In the meantime, there's this X22 Report...

    Is Obama Creating An Army Of Agitators
    To Go Up Against Trump?

    Episode 1203b
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    Quote Posted by Eram (here)
    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
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    Well, with the facts on the table like we've been fed by Spicer today (Trump asked for Flinn's resignation) , it seems like Trump flinched.

    not good.
    Yep... read my post above yours.
    Thanks.
    I read that Saker article from Herve already some hours back in another thread and still hoped that other explanations might offer a more hopeful perspective. Perhaps some facts that we were still unaware off.

    In any case, let's not loose all hope at once.

    Let's see how the coming weeks will unfold.
    .. and! who will be the successor for Flinn.
    Hi Eram - if you noticed in the above Saker article, I underlined the statement:
    ..."barring a most unlikely last-minute miracle..."
    If you've been following the Trump Saga like most of us, here... Trump seems to be well-protected. Almost, as if there is some guiding force that's got his back. He's been a phenomenon that most have been unable to understand how he has things happen for him... Totally Unpredictable... Overcoming tremedous odds => The election win - the Democrats - his own Republican Party - the Media - the Deep State.

    My Higher Source tells me that this man is not done! as The Saker article says.

    Its truly been an awesome thing to watch - this Trump thing - its a truly remarkable journey to be on, just watching this...

    So, I just say, hang on to your hat(s), because the show is, still, just getting started...

    I have to admit I'm becoming a wee bit dependent on Turiya optimism!
    I've been for many years one of probable millions of 'alt' pessimists that had already given up hope, not seeing enough aware and strong people around. I had assumed years ago we will be latinized and islamified, made more violent, stupid, amoral, poor and controlled.

    I didn't expect him to be elected let alone expect miracles from him and I won't condemn him like some 'alt' folks already have in finding that, surprise, surprise, he will probably be coerced in several areas. Why will that be shocking and so disappointing? We've been under the thumb of globalists for over a century. I've often wondered if they threatened Woodrow Wilson's family to get him to sign the Federal Reserve Act.

    If this man is able to put five fingers in five cracks in the dam, considering the reach and power of the oligarchs, that in my book will be a lot.

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    Topics:
    • Trump is doing more than expected to Strengthen this country
    • Eastern Europe & American dominance over NATO
    • Establishing a check on Russia desire to expand world domination
    • North Korea destabilization
    • Ruddy Reince Preibus as Chief of Staff (Daily Caller article)
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    • Some problems
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    Catherine Austin Fitts Interview... Insightful...

    Jeff Rense & Catherine Austin Fitts -
    Brilliant Explanation Of What Trump…
    And We…Are Now Facing

    (Published on Feb 1, 2017)
    Topics:
    • Billionaire Steve Wynn: Now Head of RNC:
      “I look forward to helping President Trump and his Administration make America greater again for the people who work hard every day,” Wynn said in a press release. “Our goal is to bring together people of all backgrounds to meet the challenge of making a better life for all Americans.” -- Forbes Staff

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    In retreat
    The multinational company is in trouble
    Global firms are surprisingly vulnerable to attack


    Jan 28th 2017
    AMONG the many things that Donald Trump dislikes are big global firms. Faceless and rootless, they stand accused of unleashing “carnage” on ordinary Americans by shipping jobs and factories abroad. His answer is to domesticate these marauding multinationals. Lower taxes will draw their cash home, border charges will hobble their cross-border supply chains and the trade deals that help them do business will be rewritten. To avoid punitive treatment, “all you have to do is stay,” he told American bosses this week.

    Mr Trump is unusual in his aggressively protectionist tone. But in many ways he is behind the times. Multinational companies, the agents behind global integration, were already in retreat well before the populist revolts of 2016. Their financial performance has slipped so that they are no longer outstripping local firms. Many seem to have exhausted their ability to cut costs and taxes and to out-think their local competitors. Mr Trump’s broadsides are aimed at companies that are surprisingly vulnerable and, in many cases, are already heading home. The impact on global commerce will be profound.

    The end of the arbitrage

    Multinational firms (those that do a large chunk of their business outside their home region) employ only one in 50 of the world’s workers. But they matter. A few thousand firms influence what billions of people watch, wear and eat. The likes of IBM, McDonald’s, Ford, H&M, Infosys, Lenovo and Honda have been the benchmark for managers. They co-ordinate the supply chains that account for over 50% of all trade. They account for a third of the value of the world’s stockmarkets and they own the lion’s share of its intellectual property—from lingerie designs to virtual-reality software and diabetes drugs.

    They boomed in the early 1990s, as China and the former Soviet bloc opened and Europe integrated. Investors liked global firms’ economies of scale and efficiency. Rather than running themselves as national fiefs, firms unbundled their functions. A Chinese factory might use tools from Germany, have owners in the United States, pay taxes in Luxembourg and sell to Japan. Governments in the rich world dreamed of their national champions becoming world-beaters. Governments in the emerging world welcomed the jobs, exports and technology that global firms brought. It was a golden age.

    Central to the rise of the global firm was its claim to be a superior moneymaking machine. That claim lies in tatters (see Briefing). In the past five years the profits of multinationals have dropped by 25%. Returns on capital have slipped to their lowest in two decades. A strong dollar and a low oil price explain part of the decline. Technology superstars and consumer firms with strong brands are still thriving. But the pain is too widespread and prolonged to be dismissed as a blip. About 40% of all multinationals make a return on equity of less than 10%, a yardstick for underperformance. In a majority of industries they are growing more slowly and are less profitable than local firms that stayed in their backyard. The share of global profits accounted for by multinationals has fallen from 35% a decade ago to 30% now. For many industrial, manufacturing, financial, natural-resources, media and telecoms companies, global reach has become a burden, not an advantage.

    SOURCE
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    August 25, 2016
    The Broken Chessboard:
    Brzezinski Gives Up on Empire

    by Mike Whitney

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    CIA broke the law to take out
    its critic General Flynn


    February 14, 2017
    By Thomas Lifson
    Make no mistake: we have just witnessed an operation by members of the CIA to take out a high official of our own government. An agency widely believed to have brought down democratically elected governments overseas is now practicing the same dark arts in domestic American politics. Almost certainly, its new head, Mike Pompeo, was not consulted.

    Senator Chuck Schumer, of all people, laid out on January 2 what was going to happen to the Trump administration if it dared take on the deep state – the permanent bureaucracy that has contempt for the will of the voters and feels entitled to run the government for its own benefit:
    New Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Tuesday that President-elect Donald Trump is "being really dumb" by taking on the intelligence community and its assessments on Russia's cyber activities.

    "Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you," Schumer told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow.

    "So even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he's being really dumb to do this."
    Or, as the old rueful saying has it, "you've got to go along to get along." This means that we the people had better acknowledge that the bureaucrats have turned into our masters, and the old expression "public servant" is as ironic as anything Orwell came up with. Schumer knows this and likes it, because the deep state wants a bigger, more powerful government, just as he does.

    Note that the law was broken by whoever leaked the transcripts to the media. Not only is the crime underlying the "scandal" being ignored, but the criminals are being hailed. On Morning Joe's first hour today, the host, a former congressman (i.e., a lawmaker) himself, called the leakers "heroes."

    This interference in domestic politics by the CIA should be regarded as a major threat to our democracy, but of course our Trump-hating domestic media are reveling in a major point scored against the new president.

    David P. Goldman (aka Spengler), writing on PJ Media, explains the level of hatred the CIA has for Flynn for daring to take on its spectacular failures:


    … the CIA has gone out of its way to sandbag Flynn at the National Security Council. As Politico reports: "On Friday, one of Flynn's closest deputies on the NSC, senior director for Africa Robin Townley, was informed that the Central Intelligence Agency had rejected his request for an elite security clearance required for service on the NSC, according to two people with direct knowledge of the situation." Townley held precisely the same security clearance at the Department of Defense for seventeen years, yet he was blackballed without explanation. At DoD, Townley had a stellar reputation as a Middle East and Africa expert, and the denial of his clearance is hard to explain except as bureaucratic backstabbing.


    ... Gen. Flynn is the hardest of hardliners with respect to Russia within the Trump camp. In his 2016 book Field of Fight (co-authored with PJ Media's Michael Ledeen), Flynn warned of "an international alliance of evil movements and countries that is working to destroy us[.] ... The war is on. We face a working coalition that extends from North Korea and China to Russia, Iran, Syria, Syria, Cuba, Bolivia, Venezuela and Nicaragua." The unsubstantiated allegation that he presides over a "leaky" National Security Council tilting towards Russia makes no sense. The only leaks of which we know are politically motivated reports coming from the intelligence community designed to disrupt the normal workings of a democratic government – something that raises grave constitutional issues.

    Flynn is the one senior U.S. intelligence officer with the guts to blow the whistle on a series of catastrophic intelligence and operational failures. The available facts point to the conclusion that elements of the humiliated (and perhaps soon-to-be-unemployed) intelligence community is trying to exact vengeance against a principled and patriotic officer[.] ... The present affair stinks like a dumpster full of dead rats.
    Note that the suspicions eagerly being raised by the media center on Trump being a pawn of Putin and Flynn secretly pledging fealty or some such absurd subordination. In other words, suspicions of treasonous behavior by the new president are being cultivated in the general public. We can expect the media to fan these flames at every opportunity.

    Spengler also explains why the Logan Act references are insulting:
    Senior officials speak to their counterparts in other countries all the time, and for obvious reasons do not want these conversations to become public. The intelligence community, though, was taping Flynn's discussions, and the transcripts (of whose existence we are told but whose contents we have not seen) were used to embarrass him.
    This last point is critical. The entire "scandal" is based on innuendo. Flynn tripped over his own feet by misinforming Vice President Pence on the nature of his call and allowing the veep to issue a too sweeping denial of any discussion. If Flynn had said in his conversation with the Russian ambassador that we will discuss the sanctions after Trump takes office, he might well have told Pence that they did not discuss the sanctions. And the CIA leakers could have used the appearance of the word "sanctions" in their transcript to brand Pence a liar. We don't know, and for some reason, nobody is gaining access to the actual transcripts so that we may see the content. Perhaps the congressional investigations to come will gain access. But Flynn is now gone, and media memes have been firmly planted in the public mind.

    The Flynn Affair is a huge scandal, all right. But the media are misdirecting our attention toward the lesser dimension while they studiously ignore the real threat to our democracy.

    SOURCE



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    Gerald Celente brings his many cents worth on the Michael Flynn take-down...

    Gerald Celente-Debt
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