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    In Part One of this article I documented the populist administration of Andrew Jackson and similarities to Donald Trump’s populist victory in the recent election. I’ll now try to assess the chances of a Trump presidency accomplishing its populist agenda.

    The Trumpian Era
    “But you must remember, my fellow-citizens, that eternal vigilance by the people is the price of liberty, and that you must pay the price if you wish to secure the blessing. It is to be regretted that the rich and powerful too often bend the acts of government to their own selfish purposes.” Andrew Jackson

    “For too long, a small group in our nation’s capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have borne the cost. Washington flourished, but the people did not share in its wealth. Politicians prospered, but the jobs left and the factories closed. The establishment protected itself, but not the citizens of our country. Their victories have not been your victories. Their triumphs have not been your triumphs. And while they celebrated in our nation’s capital, there was little to celebrate for struggling families all across our land. What truly matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is controlled by the people. January 20th, 2017 will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again. The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer.”
    Donald J. Trump – Inaugural Speech
    It is not a coincidence the painting in the oval office behind President Trump’s desk is of Andrew Jackson. He has promoted his presidency as a Jacksonian quest to return government to the people. His chief strategist Steve Bannon, a student of history, helped mold Trump’s speech with echoes of Jacksonian populism:
    “It was an unvarnished declaration of the basic principles of his populist and kind of nationalist movement. It was given, I think, in a very powerful way. I don’t think we’ve had a speech like that since Andrew Jackson came to the White House. But you could see it was very Jacksonian. It’s got a deep, deep root of patriotism there.”
    Jon Meacham, the author of the 2008 biography of Jackson “American Lion,” said the moment in which the 45th president was taking office was “unquestionably Jacksonian.” Meacham notes the similarities between Jackson and Trump as outsiders who shook up the establishment status quo. Their pugilistic natures struck fear into the hearts of Washington insiders, upending their insular corrupt scheme of rewarding themselves at the expense of the common man.
    “Jackson was the first president who was not a Virginia planter or an Adams from Massachusetts. The establishment at the time saw his election as a potentially destabilizing democratic moment in what was largely a republican culture.”
    Jackson had pledged to sweep corruption out of Washington, comparing it to the herculean task of mucking out a “giant Augean stable.” Trump’s pledge to “drain the swamp” in Washington DC parallels Jackson’s rhetoric. The establishment of the 1820s was still focused on Britain, the king and their own aristocratic schemes until Jackson was elected by the “mob of peasants”, shattering their comfortable insular existence. The arrogant privileged establishment has treated Trump with contempt and scorn during his entire run for the presidency.

    Their fear and loathing has reached epic proportions as their ill-gotten favored status is in danger of being obliterated by Trump’s ascension to power through an overwhelming victory propelled by “the deplorables”. The establishment never goes down without a fight. The establishment has survived for two centuries like cockroaches who can’t be exterminated, as the commoners have proven to be easily manipulated and always open to bribes. Our descent into democracy has made each election is an advance sale on stolen goods.

    Most new presidents, including Barack Obama, receive a honeymoon period where they are allowed to pick their cabinet and set an agenda with only token opposition from their political opponents. The people have spoken and the country usually comes together to support the new president. Both Trump and Jackson did not receive that courtesy. Jackson was confronted by a hostile Congress during his entire eight year presidency. His agenda of fighting against the powerful entrenched interests in Washington DC, while expanding presidential powers and the radical agenda of giving more power to the people, immediately provoked a hostile response from the vested interests.

    History is not only rhyming this time, but the response from the fetid establishment creatures of both parties inhabiting the swamps of DC is identical to the response received by Jackson almost 200 years ago. Trump’s honeymoon didn’t last 5 minutes, as Soros and his well paid domestic terrorist organizations have waged non-stop violent protests on behalf of the corrupt establishment. The level of disgruntlement and faux outrage from the left-wing establishment, right-wing neo-cons, and their corporate media mouthpieces, with the results of the election is historic in its level of intense hatred, dishonesty, and blatant disregard for facts.

    The Deep State ruling elite are quite happy with the existing nomenclature of pillage, obfuscation, and propaganda which has kept them in control for decades, if not centuries. Despite popular support for his agenda, Trump will be met with non-stop resistance from the rich liberal elites, globalist billionaires, Hollywood nutjobs, left wing media fake news outlets, low IQ social justice warriors, and a myriad of other useful idiots manipulated by Soros and his cronies. It is going to be a long tough slog, with a high likelihood of civil chaos in the streets. Even Jackson didn’t meet this level of resistance.

    The issue providing fodder for the hypocritical left wingers, who never protested for one second in the last eight years as their Nobel Peace Prize winning savior Barack Obama droned and killed thousands of innocent Muslims in the Middle East, is a temporary travel ban from seven failed states in the Middle East and the construction of a border wall to stop the mass of illegal immigrants pouring across our southern border.

    Our already fraying social welfare safety net cannot withstand the addition of millions more illegal immigrants and Muslim refugees unwilling to assimilate and incapable of being productive tax paying members of society. The pandemonium, crime and terrorism engulfing Europe are as clear a warning as any critical thinking person should need. But their appears to be no critical thinkers on the left.

    Islam is a religion of hate and the only religion where their zealots kill in the name of their god. They do not assimilate into our society, learn our language, respect our Constitution or obey our laws. Sharia law is their only law. The feminazis, genderless activists, communist judges and other left wing bomb throwers express outrage and rage towards Trumps executive actions.

    Their hypocrisy and obtuseness is a wonder to behold as the Saudis and other Muslim nations treat women like dogs, while imprisoning and killing gays. Obama droning Muslim wedding parties, blowing up a Doctors Without Borders hospital, and causing a refugee crisis in Libya, Syria and Yemen didn’t generate a peep from the left wing, but a temporary travel ban from a few countries brings hundreds of thousands into the streets to protest the racist, misogynist, xenophobe Donald Trump. It would be laughable if it wasn’t so sad.

    Trump’s divisive illegal immigration stance and rhetoric to send them back to Mexico echoes the most controversial issue of Jackson’s presidency – the Indian Removal Act of 1830. The Indian “issue” had plagued the country even before sovereignty from Britain. Previous administrations had tried to ignore the issue as settlers moved westward and clashed with Indian tribes in the South and North. Jackson was not one to ignore problems. The Act authorized the President to negotiate treaties to buy tribal lands in the east in exchange for lands farther west, outside of existing U.S. state borders. Jackson did not have a high opinion of the Indian tribes he relocated.
    “That those tribes [the Sac and Fox Indians] cannot exist surrounded by our settlements and in continual contact with our citizens is certain. They have neither the intelligence, the industry, the moral habits, nor the desire of improvement which are essential to any favorable change in their condition.” – Andrew Jackson
    More than 45,000 American Indians were forcibly relocated to the West during Jackson’s administration. He is blamed for the Cherokee Trail of Tears, where 4,000 Indians died during their journey westward. This was a human tragedy that could have been alleviated by a more humane relocation plan. This actually happened in 1838 under the Van Buren administration.

    Historians are divided regarding Jackson’s treatment of the Indian tribes. There was no stopping the western expansion of white settlers. Violent clashes between Indians and white settlers were a growing problem. Further fierce conflict was inevitable. By moving these tribes west of the Mississippi, some contend Jackson saved more Indian lives than were lost on the journey. It will always be regarded as the most controversial issue of Jackson’s presidency.



    The major difference between Trump’s plan to relocate Mexicans back to their country and keep more from entering the country, is they are here illegally. The Indians were on their land first. The government forcefully seized their land and used the military to relocate them outside of the current borders. Trump’s moral standing is higher than Jackson’s. Spineless politicians have ignored the illegal immigration issue for decades, but the law is clear. Without the rule of law and enforceable borders, our country will die a slow death. Time will tell how history judges Trump’s policies regarding illegal immigrants and refugees.

    Jackson’s vow to purge the government of corruption and reduce the influence of moneyed interests echoes Trump’s campaign promises to drain the swamp. Jackson launched presidential investigations into all executive Cabinet offices and departments. Jackson believed appointees should be hired on merit. Jackson was truly a reformer as he asked Congress to restructure embezzlement laws, reduce fraudulent applications for federal pensions, streamline revenue laws to prevent evasion of custom duties, and strengthen laws to improve government accounting. Like Trump, Jackson was a strong supporter of veterans. The Service Pension Act of 1832 provided pensions to veterans while another act enabled widows of Revolutionary War soldiers, who met certain criteria, to receive their husband’s pensions.

    Trump filling his cabinet with billionaire business people is his Jacksonian attempt to breathe competence and accountability into government departments. Trump’s theory is successful business people who can’t be bought off by special interests will be able to reform their departments and bring a business-like atmosphere to a dysfunctional bureaucratic government establishment. It’s guaranteed Trump’s administration will not be like any before it. Success would infuriate the left and provide elation to Trump’s everyday normal American supporters. The danger with all administrations, as Jackson warned, is factions are formed which endanger the liberties of the people.
    “It is from within, among yourselves–from cupidity, from corruption, from disappointed ambition and nordinate thirst for power–that factions will be formed and liberty endangered. It is against such designs, whatever disguise the actors may assume, that you have especially to guard yourselves.” – Andrew Jackson
    Jackson’s theory regarding rotation of office with competent administrators generated what would later be called the spoils system. The political realities of Washington, however, ultimately forced Jackson to make partisan appointments despite his personal reservations. Ultimately, his effort to reform government and make it operate more efficiently and for the benefit of the people failed. Introducing ethics into an unethical corrupt system is doomed to failure.

    It is very likely Trump’s billionaire, high performing, large ego, results oriented cabinet members will grow increasingly frustrated with the Washington bureaucracy, back stabbing and gridlock. It won’t be anything like running a business and most will resign before the first term is over. This would also echo Jackson having to replace most of his cabinet during his first term.

    This brings us to the two most crucial aspects of any president’s success or failure –foreign policy and monetary policy. Trump’s campaign rhetoric sounded much like Bush Junior’s bombast during the 2000 presidential campaign. No nation building, no invading sovereign countries, stop provoking Russia, and defending our southern border were his campaign promises.

    Even though Jackson was a military hero, his eight year presidency was peaceful, with absolutely no armed conflict with any other countries. It seems men who have known the horrors of war tend to utilize the use of military force as a last resort. Obama and Bush, having not faced death on the battlefield, used the military to kill indiscriminately across the globe. Jackson promoted trade with other nations, rather than confrontation.

    The U.S. has been at perpetual war since the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913. Trump’s oratory during the campaign was reminiscent of Ron Paul’s non-interventionist doctrine. He declared we would no longer attempt to fix broken countries through military intervention. In his first three weeks in office he has surrounded himself with war-like advisors who have already provoked Russia and China.

    Trump has threatened Iran and North Korea with retaliation for missile launch tests. Despite Trump’s desire to reduce the number of conflicts he has our military responding to, the military industrial complex and their neo-con supporters in Congress continue to provoke conflict around the globe. His efforts to normalize relations with Russia will be met with resistance every step of the way. Trump’s chance of an eight year presidency with no major foreign conflict is very low.

    It seemed improbable that Andrew Jackson, a one-time land speculator, slave trader, opponent of debtor relief and wartime nationalist, would become the voice of the common man. By the 1820s Jackson’s personal business experiences had transformed his opinions about speculation and paper money, leaving him everlastingly mistrustful of the credit system in general and banks in particular.

    Jackson most certainly walked the talk when it came to purging the government of the undue influence by unelected private bankers over the economy and government. His war on Second Bank of United States and ensuing hard money policies were a victory for the average man against the moneyed aristocracy. His victory was hollow, as Jackson was unfairly blamed for the subsequent depression and ultimately the bankers regained their capture over the economic and political levers of power in this country.



    While on the campaign trail Trump railed against the Federal Reserve and Janet Yellen. He declared the central bank was politicized and responsible for the past and ongoing bubbles in the financial markets. He asserted, without equivocation, the ridiculously low interest rates kept in place in perpetuity by the Federal Reserve were a major cause of the non-existent economic growth and the ongoing malaise infecting the economy. He stated the stock market was a bubble about to burst again, for the third time in the last sixteen years.

    Of course, he was absolutely correct, but his tone and relative silence on the matter since his election may tell a different story. When the stock market went to new all-time highs after his election he hailed it as an endorsement of his economic plan. I haven’t heard him asking for higher interest rates to pop the multiple bubbles in stocks, bonds and real estate. Presidents seem to acquire tunnel vision when it comes to acknowledging bubbles during their reign of power.

    Anyone with a grasp of history knows the Federal Reserve’s mandate of maintaining stable prices has been an undeniable catastrophic failure. The “goal” of 2% inflation is not stable prices, it’s inflationary prices. The rate of inflation during the Jacksonian era was virtually 0%. From the founding of the country, except for periods of war, through the industrial revolution the country experienced mild deflation. This all ended in 1913 when a few corrupt politicians handed over the power of currency debasement and debt creation to private banking interests.

    Central banks and wars go hand in hand. The U.S. would not be able to wage perpetual war without the man-made inflation and debt production by the Federal Reserve bankers. Since the creation of the Federal Reserve prices have risen fourteen-fold, destroying the working middle class and shoving tens of millions to the brink of poverty.



    Trump knows the score. One wonders whether every new president is ushered into a room by the Deep State controllers and issued their marching orders when it comes to Wall Street, the Fed, and the military industrial complex. With a $20 trillion national debt and $200 trillion of unfunded welfare liabilities, Trump has no choice but to support the Fed’s near zero interest rate policy and continuing the falsification of inflation data to keep the sheep in the dark as they are led to slaughter. His selection of alumni from the Vampire Squid on the Face of America (aka Goldman Sachs) as his key financial advisors does not bode well for the common man who elected him.

    He doesn’t appear to have the courage and fortitude of Jackson when it comes to taking on the vested financial interests who have engineered a silent coup over the last few decades. Without their support, his tax cuts, border wall, infrastructure plans, and rebuilding the military would be DOA. His plans require more debt issuance and low interest rates. He will play along to get what he wants.

    There will be no routing out of central bank thieves and vipers during Trump’s watch. He also won’t be paying off the national debt anytime soon. With social welfare programs on automatic pilot, tax cuts, tariffs, and new spending initiatives, annual deficits will approach $1 trillion again. There is nothing Jacksonian about that. Trump is handcuffed by a financial house of cards created over decades.

    If he chose to take on the financial interests who rule this country, they would create an economic collapse like the world has never seen and/or remove Trump from office through legitimate (impeachment) or illegitimate (assassination) means. I know he is less than one month into his presidency and his intentions on a plethora of crucial issues are well meaning, but the odds are overwhelming stacked against him somehow making government work for the people.

    The law of large numbers works against Trump, while not hampering Jackson. The national debt was $60 million and the population was less than 13 million when Jackson took office. With a national debt of $20 trillion and deeply divided, relatively ignorant, and mostly apathetic population of 330 million, Trump doesn’t have the financial flexibility or popular mandate to accomplish making America great again. That ship has sailed. He appears destined to govern during a time of civil chaos and ultimately financial collapse. And the climax will likely be a major global conflict involving Russia and/or China.

    A major difference between the Jacksonian Era and the Trumpian Era is Jackson governed during the Second Turning Transcendental Awakening period. His populism and reforms were welcomed by the majority of the country. The mood of the country was awakened to social progress and utopian experiments to improve society. Trump has come to power in the midst of a Fourth Turning. Conflict, chaos, and crisis drive events during a Fourth Turning. There will be no overwhelming acceptance of any reforms put forward by Trump. Everything he attempts will be met with resistance. Despite his desire for peaceful relations with other nations, he is destined to be a wartime president.

    Trump will most certainly accomplish the relatively easy stuff – cutting taxes, building a wall, increasing funding for the military, spending more on infrastructure, and repealing Obamacare. If he wanted to leave a legacy on par with Andrew Jackson’s he would break up the Too Big To Trust Wall Street banks; reinstate the Glass-Steagal Act; clamp down on, if not dissolve, the activist Federal Reserve; eliminate all income based taxes and replace with a consumption tax; tackle the unfunded social benefit issue head on and make the programs smaller but viable over the long-term; drastically reduce the size of every government agency, if not eliminating many altogether; pass term limit legislation for the House and Senate; and lastly, stop policing the world while dramatically reducing our military presence across the globe. Will Trump have the courage to do any of the hard stuff? If not, the decline of the American Empire is inevitable.



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    Trump Must Execute the Nuclear Option—There’s No Other Way
    Wednesday, February 15, 2017 9:00

    http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/20...y-2885473.html

    (Before It's News - sublinks in purple at OP link above)

    THE MILLENNIUM REPORT: Reporting the Most Important News in the World Today

    Trump Has Only One Alternative… …If He Is To Deliver On His Crucial Campaign Promises, And Really Make America Great Again


    The 3 Pillars of Deep State Must Be Knocked Down Post Haste

    • The Mainstream Media must be shut down.
    • The Central Intelligence Agency must be dissolved.
    • The Federal Reserve System must be taken over by the U.S. Treasury


    State of the Nation

    SOTN was the first Alt Media news platform to describe Donald Trump as a wrecking ball.

    This Internet moniker was chosen after great deliberation as it became clear that the Obamanation needed to be completely destroyed if the American Republic was to be saved.

    In fact, The Donald made his way slowly but surely all the way to the Oval Office by wrecking everything in sight. This is his signature MO, and exactly what was needed throughout the most divisive and violent campaign season in U.S. history.

    Post Inauguration

    It is now clear that Deep State will not — under any circumstances — allow President Trump to deliver on his many campaign promises. Nor will the NWO globalists permit him to be POTUS.

    BEWARE: The Purple Revolution Comes To America……Courtesy of George Soros,the Clinton Crime Family,and the Obama Administration

    Every day that goes by it becomes evident that the Purple Revolution in running in the background—full bore. 99% of the sedition and subversion associated with this soft coup is taking place completely under the radar. And, yet, the 1% that everyone does see and hear has gotten so ugly and intolerable that some folks now understand that the Titanic is about to hit the iceberg. Barring a deus ex machina event, Trump is being set up as the Titanic.

    The current trajectory of the Trump Administration is such that it may actually be sunk by the Ides of March. That’s how fast and organized this soft coup really is. And only a very few are talking about it. That’s the real problem here—a general lack of awareness due to so much MSM propaganda and prevarication.

    The MSM-CIA-FED Triad Must Be Terminated

    For every sober and sane patriot, it has become obvious that the destructive forces within the MSM-CIA-FED Triad must be dealt with decisively and firmly. There can be no sovereign American Republic as long as these three seditious entities retain their power and influence over the affairs of the nation. CASE CLOSED!

    At the risk of sounding redundant, as long as the MSM, CIA and the FED seditiously operate as they have for many decades, this once constitutional republic is anything but. To call the United States of America a grotesque misrepresentation of the Founding Fathers original intention would even be a gross understatement.

    These three entities — MSM-CIA-FED — are the very pillars which hold up the temple of Deep State. While there are many other integral components such as the entire Military-Industrial Complex, these 3 malevolent institutions form the backbone which allow the BEAST (aka Deep State) to make so much mischief both here and abroad. This triad also forms the skeleton of the current Purple Revolution being waged by the Soros-funded globalists, the Democratic Party and the Sultans of Silicon Valley.

    In view of this rapidly devolving predicament, there is now only one alternative for President Trump in order to salvage his presidency. Before his administration is taken down one cabinet secretary at a time, he must take executive actions similar to those that even President John F. Kennedy took against the FED, and was prepared to take in the early 1960s against the C.I.A. And that was 55 years ago when the C.I.A. had not even perfected its soft coup strategies or violent revolution tactics. Ergo, the C.I.A. must be dissolved post haste.

    CIA & Company: The Real Plotters Behind JFK’s Assassination

    Likewise, if President Trump is to really move forward, the Mainstream Media must be held accountable for the non-stop treason and sedition that is has been proven to be guilty of. The massive ongoing cover-up of the false flag 9/11 terror attacks alone is enough to take them down for good. So is the highly coordinated and continuing cover-up of the assassination of President Kennedy. Therefore, the MSM must be shut down and reconstituted under new corporate charters with appropriate regulation (i.e. prohibited from committing treason and sedition on a regular basis).

    9/11 VERDICT: Mainstream Media Guilty Of The Biggest Coverup In US History


    Thirdly, the Federal Reserve System has repeatedly demonstrated that it functions as an international banking crime syndicate, accountable to no one in the U.S. Federal Government. The volumes of evidence which are now available in the public domain does indicate that the FED answers to foreign powers, international financiers and wealthy elites who do not have the best interest of the American people anywhere on their priority list. The Federal Reserve Bank is such an incorrigible criminal banking entity that it must be taken over by the U.S. Treasury with all deliberate speed.

    The Federal Reserve – The Deep State’s Central Bank


    Where is this all going? What can be done?

    There is a palpable acceleration of transparently subversive plots coming out of Deep State. As a matter of historical fact, the American people have never witnessed so much soft power projected and insurrection instigated by a political party against a sitting president. Alarmingly, the Purple Revolution is getting more real by the day as it plays out in living color and during prime time.

    DEEP STATE Fired NSA General Michael Flynn

    In light of the most recent developments whereby Deep State fired NSA General Michael Flynn, Trump has shown that things are truly out of control. Senior Counselor to the President Stephen Bannon and Counselor to the President Kellyanne Conway are next on the list, as is Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Such Executive Branch attrition and unwarranted attacks have never occurred in U.S. presidential history so close to Inauguration Day.

    If ever there was a time for the American people to respond to a very real revolution — a Purple Revolution — being surreptitiously carried out, it is now. But how can the body politic of these United States of America most effectively do this? Very simple!

    Both individually and collectively, the true patriots across the land must resolve themselves to first (i) take back their power from those who have systematically stolen it; secondly (ii) stand firmly in their own truth and newfound power; and thirdly (iii) speak that infallible truth to power like never before. In this instance speaking is used to mean writing, videotaping, tweeting, facebooking, blogging, and, yes, speaking truth to power whenever and whenever necessary.

    Conclusion

    The vast majority of those elected representatives who occupy seats in the U.S. Congress are dangerous career criminals, as well as outright traitors to the Constitution and Bill of Rights. President Trump has access to enough evidence to imprison most of them for life.

    PIZZAGATE: The Scandal That Will Take Down the Clintons, the Democratic Party and the U.S. Federal Government

    The President’s real trump card, however, is Pizzagate. Deep State only exists in its current demonic incarnation through the sheer power of blackmail and bribery, coercion and intimidation. Because so many in Congress, the 17 intelligence agencies, the super-secret services, as well as throughout the leadership of Corporate America, have been seriously compromised from their involvement with either Pizzagate or the global Pedogate, virtually every major power-player is totally owned by The Company (also known as the C.I.A.)

    PIZZAGATE: A Special Report on the Washington, D.C. Pedophilia Scandal


    Given this worsening state of affairs, the American people are being challenged as never before to take back their country. Hence, either the US citizenry uses it (their civic power) or they will lose it for a very long time. Either the governed collectively withdraws their consent from those organs within the federal government which have proven to be treasonous and unworthy of existence, or the people will be irreversibly crushed by them (e.g. MSM, CIA, FED).

    Lastly, it must be acknowledged by all concerned citizens that each administration prior to the present one has profoundly violated the public trust and irrevocably broken the social contract. In so doing they have rent asunder the sacred covenant which ought to exist between the governed and the government. With so many highly consequential betrayals of the American people over the past century, there can only be one outcome.

    Let’s get busy!


    State of the Nation
    February 5, 2017

    Editor’s Note

    This article was posted with great urgency. The citizens needed to come together, as never before, to present a powerful countervailing force to Deep State. This massive show of unity and strength and resolve must be so overwhelming that members of Congress become more afraid of We the People than they are of Deep State. Do you get it? Only when the countless agents of Deep State fear the wrath of the citizenry more than the retribution of the C.I.A., the FBI and the MSM, will things start to really change. Hence, there needs to be an historic demonstration of people power and raw force. What comes to mind is a 10-million strong assembly of [armed] patriots surrounding the Capitol Building shouting “GET OUT OF OUR HOUSE!”

    VIDEO: GET OUT OF OUR HOUSE

    Recommended Reading

    The C.I.A. And Deep State Conspiracy Finally Exposed

    Three Factions of the CIA that Control the World


    Reference

    MAINSTREAM MEDIA: The True Enemy Of The People

    PIZZAGATE: A Special Report on the Washington, D.C. Pedophilia Scandal

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    Trump Has Only One Alternative… | SOTN: Alternative News & Commentary



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    Sean Spicer - Security Leaks a big concern...

    Was Michael Flynn politically assassinated?

    (Published on Feb 14, 2017)
    _____________________________

    Trump on Flynn...

    Trump on Flynn: Documents,
    papers were illegally leaked

    (Published on Feb 15, 2017)
    _____________________________

    Hannity also sees it for what it is...

    Hannity: The DC swamp is rising
    to take down Trump

    (Published on Feb 14, 2017)
    _____________________________
    ________________________________
    The real scandal here is that classified
    information is illegally given out by
    "intelligence" like candy. Very un-American!


    5:13 AM - 15 Feb 2017
    ________________________________
    Columnist: Flynn's ouster will
    embolden Trump's opponents

    (Published on Feb 15, 2017)
    _____________________________

    Karl Rove: White House leaks
    are 'political payback'

    (Published on Feb 15, 2017)
    _____________________________

    Targeting of Flynn 'should be
    alarming to everyone'
    (Published on Feb 15, 2017)

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    What will happen if Trump gets taken down?
    If they succeed in their efforts to isolate him and eventually get him impeached or some other means to definitively shut him up?
    Will the US stand for it?
    Will it descend in a full scale civil war?

    by now, I guess large parts of the military, the police and intelligence agencies are pretty much up to speed about what's really going on and the monster that Trump is fighting.

    I just cannot see a Trump impeachment (or worse) end without a civil war.

    Last night, I dreamed that I bought a big rifle and flew to the US to join the militia in defense of Trump and basically, this is how I feel about the situation.
    All the while being a idealistic pacifist lefty by nature.
    Go figure.

    But seriously, could it be possible that Trump gets taken out of power without some major blow back from the patriot movement in the US?
    All I can see is some sort of civil war as a next stage.
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    The medical establishment is pissed, and the MSM is expressing outrage on their behalf.

    Quote De Niro, Bobby Kennedy son offer $100K for anti-vaccine journalism

    Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Robert De Niro insist they are pro-vaccine. But their Washington press conference Wednesday has sickened science advocates.

    “The event was a showcase of some of the most thoroughly discredited claims about vaccines, from the notion that they cause autism, to the suggestion that vaccines are a huge source of mercury that’s making kids sick,” Vox reported. “Kennedy also suggested journalists and the government have been colluding to cover up the truth about vaccine safety, and that the shots have ‘caused the autism epidemic.’”

    But Kennedy and De Niro write: “Both of us had all of our children vaccinated and we support policies that promote vaccine coverage. We want vaccines that are as safe as possible, robust transparent science and vigorous oversight by independent regulators who are free from corrupting conflicts-of-interest.”

    Their World Mercury Project is offering $100,000 “to the first journalist, or other individual, who can find a peer-reviewed scientific study demonstrating that thimerosal is safe in the amounts contained in vaccines currently being administered to American children and pregnant women.”

    They said a “cascade of recent science” confirms that thimerosal is a “potent neurotoxin that damages children’s brains.”

    Vox quoted Peter Hotez, a pediatrician and vaccine researcher at Baylor College of Medicine, as saying: “There is no link between thimerosal — mercury that was previously found in vaccines — and autism.”

    “The only major thimerosal exposure to children is during maternal immunization with multidose flu vaccine, he added, but a large recent study in JAMA also found no link with autism,” Vox added.
    http://mynewsla.com/hollywood/2017/0...ne-journalism/

    They must just be using this as an opportunity to draw attention to and broach the subject because the research already exists and has existed for years.




    Autism as a diagnosis didn't even exist until after vaccines were introduced in the US.




    Parents generally are more concerned for the health of their children, and know them better, than their doctors do. The fact that most doctors double as pill salesman and get kickbacks from that are proof enough of that.

    So polls like these are also interesting:



    Parents seem to be noticing the pattern, Trump, Kennedy and De Niro no doubt included.

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    Quote Posted by Eram (here)
    What will happen if Trump gets taken down?
    If they succeed in their efforts to isolate him and eventually get him impeached or some other means to definitively shut him up?
    Will the US stand for it?
    Will it descend in a full scale civil war?

    by now, I guess large parts of the military, the police and intelligence agencies are pretty much up to speed about what's really going on and the monster that Trump is fighting.

    I just cannot see a Trump impeachment (or worse) end without a civil war.

    Last night, I dreamed that I bought a big rifle and flew to the US to join the militia in defense of Trump and basically, this is how I feel about the situation.
    All the while being a idealistic pacifist lefty by nature.
    Go figure.

    But seriously, could it be possible that Trump gets taken out of power without some major blow back from the patriot movement in the US?
    All I can see is some sort of civil war as a next stage.
    No one can know for any certainty what could happen.
    The country is so divided.

    The Dems are so butt-hurt and just can't get over the fact that Hilllary Clinton lost the election - [poor babies].
    The minds of the youth are quite malleable... the is basic understanding in human psychology. The Deep State / CIA knows this - they are mind control experts - they have used this in their methods to stir up the color revolutions in the Balkans, the Arab Springs in the Middle East.

    The millenial-left is so affixiated... and so easily manipulated... the youth have the most energy in being young... they have more energy than older people. Its more easily to excite these type people. With the help of MSM constant repitition of the various memes - just look at how long they've been having "The Russians did it" meme going... repeating it over & over & over. They are literally hypnotizing the masses - to the point that the masses (especially the youth) are autohypnotizing themselves, and unconsciously creating the very police state that they've been led to believe that Donald Trump represents.

    The media is most assuredly behind the pumping up of the emotional discharge.
    Have a read of a Scott Adams article I previously posted on the other thread...

    ____________________________________

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    Be Careful What
    You Wish For
    (especially if it is Hitler)


    Posted on January 29, 2017
    Guest Post by Scott Adams
    As a trained persuader, I’m seeing a dangerous situation forming that I assume is invisible to most of you. The setup is that during the presidential campaign Trump’s critics accused him of being Hitler(ish) and they were sure other citizens would see it too, thus preventing this alleged monster from taking office.

    They were wrong. The alleged monster took office.

    Now you have literally millions of citizens in the United States who were either right about Trump being the next Hitler, and we will see that behavior emerge from him soon, or they are complete morons. That’s a trigger for cognitive dissonance. The science says these frightened folks will start interpreting all they see as Hitler behavior no matter how ridiculous it might seem to the objective observer. And sure enough, we are seeing that.


    To be fair, Trump made it easy this week with his temporary immigration ban. If you assume Trump is Hitler, that fits with your hypothesis. But of course it also fits the hypothesis that he’s just doing his job. We’re all seeing what we expect to see.

    But lately I get the feeling that Trump’s critics have evolved from expecting Trump to be Hitler to preferring it. Obviously they don’t prefer it in a conscious way. But the alternative to Trump becoming Hitler is that they have to live out the rest of their lives as confirmed morons. No one wants to be a confirmed moron. And certainly not after announcing their Trump opinions in public and demonstrating in the streets. It would be a total embarrassment for the anti-Trumpers to learn that Trump is just trying to do a good job for America. It’s a threat to their egos. A big one.

    And this gets me to my point. When millions of Americans want the same thing, and they want it badly, the odds of it happening go way up. You can call it the power of positive thinking. It is also the principle behind affirmations. When humans focus on a desired future, events start to conspire to make it happen.


    I’m not talking about any new-age magic. I’m talking about ordinary people doing ordinary things to turn Trump into an actual Hitler. For example, if protesters start getting violent, you could expect forceful reactions eventually. And that makes Trump look more like Hitler. I can think of dozens of ways the protesters could cause the thing they are trying to prevent. In other words, they can wish it into reality even though it is the very thing they are protesting.

    In the 3rd dimension of persuasion, the protesters need to be proven right, and they will do whatever it takes to make that happen. So you might see the protesters inadvertently create the police state they fear.

    If you are looking for the tells that this dangerous situation is developing, notice how excited/happy the Trump critics seem to be – while angry at the same time – that Trump’s immigration ban fits their belief system. If you see people who are simply afraid of Trump, they are probably harmless. But the people who are excited about any Hitler-analogy-behavior by Trump might be leading the country to a police state without knowing it.

    So watch for that.



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    In post #56 I stated the following -

    Quote Posted by Sam Hunter (here)
    heard stated by someone today on FOX News -

    "The media is the unaccountable fourth branch of the government"
    Bill Still heard it too... Ben Stein

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    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Those Pedogate arrests can't come fast enough!

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    Another Saker article...



    Will Falling Dominoes
    Knock Over Trump?

    — Paul Craig Roberts
    February 15, 2017 | Categories: Articles & Columns
    Gen. Flynn’s removal as National Security Adviser is a domino that is likely to knock over other Trump appointees and perhaps Trump himself. Stephen Lendman seems to think that Kellyanne Conway is next in line: Article
    __________________________________

    Wednesday, February 15, 2017
    Kellyanne Conway Bashing Targets Trump

    by Stephen Lendman
    Ousting Michael Flynn was all about harming Trump. The same goes for Conway, Counselor to the President, a key White House position.

    A previous article discussed her harmless faux pas on Fox News, saying “(g)o buy (Trump daughter) Ivanka’s stuff…It’s a wonderful line. I own some of it. I'm going to give a free commercial here. Go buy it today.”

    It was a minor indiscretion of no consequence in response to Nordstrom dropping her line, possibly at odds with US law, prohibiting “use of public office for private gain,” including “endorse(ments) (of any) product, service or enterprise.”

    Conway’s comment wasn’t intended for personal gain, so the whole business should have amounted to much ado about nothing.

    Not in Washington, especially with Trump bashing so intense. The Office of Government Ethics (OGE) wants her investigated, disciplinary action following if warranted.

    You can’t make this stuff up whatever comes of this. Attacking her is solely meant harm Trump. She, Flynn and likely other administration officials to follow are punching bags.

    Trump’s the target. The strategy is weaken him by going after key administration officials, wanting him delegitimized - the end game either harming him irreparably or driving him from office by impeachment, trial and conviction, resignation or more sinister means.

    OGE director Walter Shaub called Conway’s action a “clear violation” of ethics rules, saying “there is strong reason to believe (she) violated the Standards of Conduct Act…”

    He requested the White House to investigate the matter, then send its findings and any proposed disciplinary action to OGE by end of February.

    Whoever put Shaub up to this wants Conway either ousted or heavily tarnished to harm Trump. Lots more dominos may fall.

    Taking them out or damaging their reputations enough weakens their ability to serve effectively.

    If this dirty game continues relentlessly, the last domino to fall may be Trump. That’s what it’s all about.

    First eliminate or discredit his key people. Then take him out or force total capitulation to longstanding deplorable policies. In the meantime, Washington’s imperial agenda continues without missing a beat.

    Stephen Lendman
    Paul Craig Roberts:
    Now that speaking to Russians is a cause for removal, Trump’s agenda of normalizing relations with Russia is dead. Trump himself now reportedly has said that Russia should return Crimea to Ukraine. Flynn’s reported likely replacement, Robert S. Harward, is CEO for Lockheed Martin in the United Arab Emirates. Lockheed Martin is part of the military/security complex that needs an enemy, and the “Russian threat” is a large enough enemy to keep about 1,000 billion dollars of the taxpayers’ money flowing into the military/security complex.

    The Saker spells it out for those who were unable to follow his first article on the subject (below).
    __________________________________


    The anti-Flynn ‘deep state’ coup –
    spelling it out in the clearest way possible

    February 14, 2017
    By The Saker
    Okay, my sense is that a large number of commentators are misunderstanding the nature of what is going on. So, this time, rather than writing an analysis, I will spell it out, ‘talking points’ – style and, hopefully, do a better job about making my point. So, here we go.
    1. THIS IS NOT ABOUT FLYNN. Let me repeat that once more. THIS IS NOT ABOUT FLYNN!!! Please don’t come and tell me that Flynn was wrong on Iran, on Islam or on China. I agree. But,
      ==>>THIS IS NOT ABOUT FLYNN!!!<<==
      ***
    2. THIS IS ABOUT POWER. As in, who is boss? Who is number one? Who is the alpha dog? The President or the ‘deep state’? That is what this is all about – showing everybody who is in charge.
      ***
    3. FLYNN WAS A SYMBOL. He was the symbol of the entire notion of draining the Washington swamp, which is mostly the 3 letter agencies + Pentagon anyway. Flynn was the guy who dared defy the thought police and be friendly with the Russians. Flynn was the man who wanted to bring the CIA and JCS back under White House control. And Flynn was the guy with contacts with SOCOM and JSOC. Flynn had to be brought down.
      ***
    4. FLYNN WAS ALSO A CORNERSTONE. For better or for worse, it is absolutely evident that Flynn was the brain behind Trump’s entire foreign policy. On some stuff Flynn was great (Russia), on some stuff he was okay (Takfiri terrorism), on some stuff he was ridiculous (China) and on some stuff he was terrible (Iran). But that is not what matters here. Listen to Kucinich who clearly says that this is not about Trump or Flynn, but about a coup against the Presidency by the US ‘deep state’. Now that Flynn has been brought down, there is no “Trump foreign policy” left.
      ***
    5. FLYNN IS ALSO A DOMINO. Okay, this is crucial, pay attention now. Putin has often been criticized for protecting his friends even when these friends are guilty of wrongdoings. Now let me ask you a simple question: would you rather stick your neck out for Trump or for Putin? Exactly. If Trump was a loyal kind of person he could have called Pence and Flynn to the Oval Office, told Flynn to apologize and told Pence to shut up. But he did nothing of the kind. By accepting Flynn’s “resignation” Trump showed that he does not protect those who fight for him. There will definitely be a domino-effect now as everybody who matters has now understood: Trump is weak, the Neocons got him by the balls, and Trump will leave you hanging when the sh¡t hits the fan.
      ***
    6. FLYNN’S DOWNFALL IS A MESSAGE. A message to all those who hate Trump and what Trump represents. And that message is simple: we are back in control and the party is on! Now that Trump has been humiliated and broken, now that he lost his only high-IQ and powerful ally in the White House, the Neocons are the deep state are smelling blood and they will double-down and resume their attack with increased intensity. The next highly symbolic sacrificial victim might be the much-hated Steve Bannon. The bottom line is simple: the hunt is on for anti-deep-state ‘crimethinkers’.
      ***
    7. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS ABOUT TRUMP’S CHARACTER. That was the big unknown, right? Nobody really new what kind of President Trump would make. Everybody, including yours truly, enjoyed speculating about his ego, his lack of political experience, the fact that he owed nothing to anybody, that he was a deal maker, a common sense pragmatist. Well, we still don’t know what kind of President Trump will be, but I am afraid that we now know what kind of President he will NOT be: he will NOT drain the swamp, he will NOT change the subordination of US national interests to the AngloZionist Empire, he will NOT forge a historical partnership with Russia and he will NOT send the Neocons down to the basement from which they crawled out 24 years ago.

      Whether Trump lacks brains, spine, or balls is anyone’s guess, but it is now painfully clear that he has much more in common with Yanukovich then with Putin.
    As I said, it’s over. Not because of Flynn’s views on Iran or Islam. But because Trump has caved in, he has been broken and now all that’s left is a painful 4 year long agony. That’s assuming that the Neocons don’t impeach him just to bask in their arrogance and sense of supremacy.

    Frankly, my heart goes out to all those who sincerely hoped that Trump will be the man to free the US from the Neocons and restore the power of the “basket of deplorables” over the many minorities and special interests. Some will now indulge in a lot of “I told you so” but they will be wrong. To hope for the best was the right thing to do. Those who voted for Trump did the only thing in their power to prevent Hillary from occupying the White House. That was the right decision, they did the right thing, both morally and pragmatically.

    But now we also need to gather our courage and accept the reality of what has taken place. Minimizing the implications of this deep state coup makes no sense whatsoever, neither morally nor pragmatically. And the reality is this:
    It took the Neocons and the US deep state less than a month to overturn the results of the Presidential election.

    Trump now declares that he “expects Russia to return Crimea“.
    It’s over folks – welcome (back) to the war between Russia and the Empire.
    The Saker

    PS: one more thing. Trump himself was always, of course, the candidate of one part of the ‘US deep state’. Trump did not appear ex nihilo, and neither did Flynn. It is taking place is one faction of the deep state fighting against another faction of the deep state. The US elites have been split for a while now. But since Trump now has legal authority and those trying to color revolution him do not, I speak of the deep state vs the Presidency.
    The Saker
    #CivilWar2 Kucinich Pins Flynn
    Leak on Intel Community

    (Published on Feb 14, 2017)
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    What I'm not understanding is that whoever helped push trump in had to be pretty powerful as well, so where are they? they overrode the clinton camp to get him in, now they have disappeared? they got him in just to let him twist in the wind? why?
    it's all getting over my paygrade....

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    Quote Posted by Helene West (here)
    What I'm not understanding is that whoever helped push trump in had to be pretty powerful as well, so where are they? they overrode the clinton camp to get him in, now they have disappeared? they got him in just to let him twist in the wind? why?
    it's all getting over my paygrade....
    Not sure if this will help... but it may be time for Steve Pieczenik to pipe in, here...
    The Dispensable Mike Flynn!
    February 14, 2017
    Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, MD, PhD



    The Dispensable Mike Flynn!
    The recent firing of Mike Flynn is par for the course of any new administration. When a new POTUS comes into office, he must evaluate the performance of his subordinates.

    Even more difficult is the fact that POTUS must insist that their performance and integrity [whatever that might mean] meets the standards that POTUS has set for himself and his WH.

    Lt.Gen. Mike Flynn has been a loyal soldier. He did what he was supposed to do in order to facilitate Trump’s ascendancy into the WH. However, rumors were floating around that the National Security team in the WH was fragmented and not properly synchronized.


    I emphasized the need for a strong national security leader in one of my former blogs. However helpful and effective Flynn may have been in the past, he became a liability in the present and for the future of Trump’s tenure.

    Whether Flynn did or did not consort with the Russians or whatever other narrative is offered to the press is completely irrelevant. What does matter is that whatever POTUS decides is best for his WH becomes the sine qua non of any present or future actions that he might have to take.
    The dismissal of Flynn underscores a salient point that I have repeatedly stated about all politicians, leaders, and operatives. They are dispensable.
    The president has to make swift decisions in trying moments without having access to the full picture. Trump works at warp speed consistent with ruthless businessmen who are usually very successful. He may or may not allow one or two mistakes to be made.Trump will not hesitate to bring the ax down when necessary.


    Please rest assured that Trump has built a very strong phalanx of operatives at the cabinet level who are effectively manning the key national security positions. In time, one must expect that more civilians and others will be dismissed. That is the nature of a vibrant capitalistic democracy where no one is guaranteed a livelihood or a sinecure.

    Many civilians in the massive USG bureaucracy should be frightened. They too realize that they are disposable.That’s why we elected the “Fixer” Donald Trump to create a smaller federal government and a larger private sector.

    Remember the Republic is intact and quite healthy. Heads will roll in order to make the USG more streamline and productive for the 21 st century. Thank you POTUS Trump!

    Steve Pieczenik

    .
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    Alex Jones Guest with Steve Pieczenik comes on @ 2:08:30... Roger Stone... Leo Hohmann...

    Alex Jones Wednesday:
    Roger Stone, Leo Hohmann, Steve Pieczenik

    ( 2/15/17)
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    Quote Posted by Helene West (here)
    What I'm not understanding is that whoever helped push trump in had to be pretty powerful as well, so where are they? they overrode the clinton camp to get him in, now they have disappeared? they got him in just to let him twist in the wind? why?
    it's all getting over my paygrade....
    The overwhelming support of patriots from all walks of life helped him get in and now he's in the middle of the Washington swamp. He's still got a lot of support, particularly from the military and rank-and-file intelligence people, but still not the media, or the establishment of the Republican and Democratic parties, or Hollywood or the deep state military/intel network or the globalists. It's a pretty massive machine he's beating back.

    I think Trump is making progress. It's just going to be very painful and look very messy while it's happening. This was something that Steve Bannon said he discovered during the campaign: whenever the media makes things seem the most chaotic, is when the Trump team is in reality the most focused and on-target. When the media is breathlessly freaking out is when the Trump team is "in the zone" peeling back the traditional power bases.

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    Quote Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
    Quote Posted by Helene West (here)
    What I'm not understanding is that whoever helped push trump in had to be pretty powerful as well, so where are they? they overrode the clinton camp to get him in, now they have disappeared? they got him in just to let him twist in the wind? why?
    it's all getting over my paygrade....
    The overwhelming support of patriots from all walks of life helped him get in and now he's in the middle of the Washington swamp. He's still got a lot of support, particularly from the military and rank-and-file intelligence people, but still not the media, or the establishment of the Republican and Democratic parties, or Hollywood or the deep state military/intel network or the globalists. It's a pretty massive machine he's beating back.

    I think Trump is making progress. It's just going to be very painful and look very messy while it's happening. This was something that Steve Bannon said he discovered during the campaign: whenever the media makes things seem the most chaotic, is when the Trump team is in reality the most focused and on-target. When the media is breathlessly freaking out is when the Trump team is "in the zone" peeling back the traditional power bases.
    Thank you, AVFM.

    At 2:08:30 of the above Infowars video in Post #92 has Steve Pieczenik coming on and assuring Alex that everything is under control, as part of the previous 'soft coup' that has already taken place. Lt General Mike Flynn had already known, for some time prior, that he would not remain in the Trump Administration for very long. All the emotional tirades that are taking place - in the media, Hollywood celebs, Michael Moore, etc., are like small infants pooping in their pants while still throwing their ongoing tantrams over having lost the election.

    I will be posting the 18-19 minute segment of the Wednesday, February 15, 2017 Alex Jones Show containing the interview quite soon. The re-establishment of the Republic will be forthcoming... no worries, according to Steve Pieczenik.

    Steve Pieczenik on Lt General
    Mike Flynn's Resignation

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    I'm a member of a few other forums, not to do with alternative information, and I'd say about 95% of the people on all of them are utterly against Trump in the most forthcoming way. The same apparently on my Twitter feed. Also here in England almost everyone I have spoken to is utterly against Trump. Except a select few, every single one of my friends, and friend's friends, seems to have totally bought in to the idea that Trump is by far the worst President to ever step in to the whitehouse. These are for the most part very intelligent, seemingly open minded people.

    Personally I'm on the fence. It certainly seems that he is by no means a saint, and frankly quite possibly a bit of a fool, certainly in the way he seems to conduct himself, the way he speaks, and the way he writes... and tweets. It certainly is a little embarrassing for someone in his position. This, however, is no reason to hate him and certainly doesn't mean that he isn't a good person with good intentions for his presidency and country.

    Certain things he has said would suggest he's against the establishment, but there are other things that would suggest not.

    My question is, what are some of the things he has done so far that truly benefit the people? Things that he has done that truly show that he is a good guy? I'm yet to have really seen anything, but maybe they do exist...?
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    Why don't you take some time to read the thread MorningFox. Less than a month in office and he's already acting on many of his campaign promises, something which is so unprecedented that the media is shocked that he is actually doing what he said he would. He's already initiated planning for the Mexican wall, killed TPP, gutted Obamacare mandates, produced pledges for over a million new jobs from companies ranging from Sprint to Toyota to Japanese and Chinese entrepreneurs (which don't manifest overnight), and the stock market is on its longest upward trend in decades on nothing but the fumes of optimism from the fact that Trump has pledged to cut taxes and reduce regulations across the board. And the vaccine commission, to review vaccine safety, which is something that a lot of people have been concerned about for a long time. I could sit here and think of more but the man is a workaholic and every day he's doing something else. If people don't see what Trump has already done it's only because they haven't really been paying any attention to it.

    Just on the topic of Obamacare, from what I've heard Nigel Farage say, I don't think you Brits truly realize the horrendous disaster that was Obamacare. It effected much more than peoples' health care, though it adversely effected peoples' health insurance costs too. But maybe more importantly it resulted in reduction of hours and mass lay-offs all over the country because of mandates requiring companies to pay for full-time workers' health care, increasing unemployment and reducing earnings of people who continued working. Just gutting Obamacare alone is a great thing.


    I'm watching the Trump news conference right now and he's going over what all he's done since Jan. 20th, so I'll list what he says for you here too.

    - Withdrawal from TPP
    - Elimination of job-killing regulations
    - For each new regulation, 2 old regulations must be lifted
    - Expedited approval for manufacturing permits
    - Hiring freeze on non-essential federal bureaucratic jobs
    - Creation of a task force for reducing violent crime in places like Chicago
    - Cracking down on drug cartel crime coming across the Mexican border
    - Planning for the wall is already underway
    - Crackdown on "sanctuary cities" and removal of violent illegal migrants
    - End of Obama's "catch and release" policy which had resulted in unnecessary murders, etc.
    - Extreme vetting of refugees and other immigrants coming into our country from terrorism-ridden countries
    - We're moving forward on the Dakota pipeline to inc
    - New 5 year ban on White House officials becoming lobbyists
    - New lifetime ban on lobbying on behalf of a foreign government
    - Gutting Obamacare mandates, pushing Congress to repeal and replace
    - Presentation of a tax reform plan that would cut taxes across the board, which also must now go through Congress
    - Movements to fair trade, not "free" trade
    - American and even foreign automakers are announcing rebuilding their factories in the US now
    - Nominated a strict Constitutionalist for the Supreme Court who was previously appointed by a 95-0 vote in the Senate to the federal courts

    He didn't list everything (like the vaccine comission) but I don't blame him because he's hard to keep up with.

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    Quote Posted by MorningFox (here)
    I'm a member of a few other forums, not to do with alternative information, and I'd say about 95% of the people on all of them are utterly against Trump in the most forthcoming way. The same apparently on my Twitter feed. Also here in England almost everyone I have spoken to is utterly against Trump. Except a select few, every single one of my friends, and friend's friends, seems to have totally bought in to the idea that Trump is by far the worst President to ever step in to the whitehouse. These are for the most part very intelligent, seemingly open minded people.

    Personally I'm on the fence. It certainly seems that he is by no means a saint, and frankly quite possibly a bit of a fool, certainly in the way he seems to conduct himself, the way he speaks, and the way he writes... and tweets. It certainly is a little embarrassing for someone in his position. This, however, is no reason to hate him and certainly doesn't mean that he isn't a good person with good intentions for his presidency and country.

    Certain things he has said would suggest he's against the establishment, but there are other things that would suggest not.

    My question is, what are some of the things he has done so far that truly benefit the people? Things that he has done that truly show that he is a good guy? I'm yet to have really seen anything, but maybe they do exist...?
    I'm in the same situation Morning Fox.
    I come from a background and family of left minded intellectuals (or wannabees at least).
    All my friends and family loath Trump. They abandoned common sense and are whipping themselves up into an almost psychotic frenzy.
    People who normally plaster the facebook page with pacifistic ideologies and memes are now crying out for him to be murdered.

    Are these people aware that there is something more at steak here then just the projected image of a US president?

    Trump immediately pulled the US back out if the TPP negotiations and intends to renegotiate NAFTA.
    Have your friends any idea about the implications of this policy?
    Mine don't.
    Most of them don't even know what NAFTA is.
    Do they understand the risks involved of the game that is played toward Russia?

    Besides that, the left intellectuals these days seem to be stuck in freedom of thought intolerance. They just cannot bear the idea of other people with different ideas about how to form a society having some power.

    I'm glad that I have been able to do my homework and have actually been fortunate enough to skim through books like "Tragedy and Hope" and many other sources of information to come to the conclusion that there is indeed an Anglo/Americain plot to form a global society, dominated by Anglo Americain forces. Technocratic, trans humanistic, and fully elitist.

    I often feel powerless and frustrated with them, since I don't know what to say to them to get them to start thinking for themselves. To do some proper research and to question their own convictions about their life and world views.

    All I know how to do so far is make it very clear to them that I have a different opinion on the matter and that I see other things in play here.

    Edit to add: I'm not (like you) on the fence of course, but I guess that much became clear throughout my post.
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    Quote Posted by MorningFox (here)
    I'm a member of a few other forums, not to do with alternative information, and I'd say about 95% of the people on all of them are utterly against Trump in the most forthcoming way. The same apparently on my Twitter feed. Also here in England almost everyone I have spoken to is utterly against Trump. Except a select few, every single one of my friends, and friend's friends, seems to have totally bought in to the idea that Trump is by far the worst President to ever step in to the whitehouse. These are for the most part very intelligent, seemingly open minded people.

    Personally I'm on the fence. It certainly seems that he is by no means a saint, and frankly quite possibly a bit of a fool, certainly in the way he seems to conduct himself, the way he speaks, and the way he writes... and tweets. It certainly is a little embarrassing for someone in his position. This, however, is no reason to hate him and certainly doesn't mean that he isn't a good person with good intentions for his presidency and country.

    Certain things he has said would suggest he's against the establishment, but there are other things that would suggest not.

    My question is, what are some of the things he has done so far that truly benefit the people? Things that he has done that truly show that he is a good guy? I'm yet to have really seen anything, but maybe they do exist...?
    Hi Morning Fox, thanks for your human and humane comment and inquiry. Yours was refreshing because everyone is an Expert on Donald trump today whether they live here in the States or in the Aleutian Islands.

    Eram’s response to you was wonderful.
    I would also add that because of trump we have been given a breather, a small reprieve from the tyranny of ‘identity politics’ which for me is nothing more than mind control and the new racism (against whites) and the new sexism (against alpha males) with its ancillary hates, against Christianity and religious people in general, the traditional family, et al…
    Eight years ago one of the first things I remember learning about obama was that he liked to play golf and he liked to watch sports with his male companion, reggie love. With trump it was the 1st or 2nd day after inauguration he freed us from the TPP as Eram pointed out. We saw we had a real worker bee in the white house and it gave many a sense of security. It also infuriated others I believe out of jealousy for his work ethic.

    I’ve been through many elections here in the U.S. but I’ve never witnessed anything the likes of what is going on today. It’s like being in the midst of an epidemic where the nature of the disease replaces the human brain with some sort of primitive reaction syndrome, a syndrome very narrow in its demonstration, mainly of rage and malice.
    Well, that’s some two cents from me, gotta get back to work, thanks again…

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    AVFM
    Thanks for listing of accomplishments, should be printed in the NY Times.

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    Quote Posted by Helene West (here)
    I’ve been through many elections here in the U.S. but I’ve never witnessed anything the likes of what is going on today. It’s like being in the midst of an epidemic where the nature of the disease replaces the human brain with some sort of primitive reaction syndrome, a syndrome very narrow in its demonstration, mainly of rage and malice.
    If you look back through history you'll see this is how the Bolsheviks and Chinese Communists came to power too. Mob mentality takes over, it's all emotion, rational discussion is shut down and the media is used to fuel all of this.

    A whole group of leftists like that slob Michael Moore are openly calling for an illegal coup against the duly elected president to install Hillary by force, and in the next breath they accuse Trump of fascism. If you wrote a fictional novel with characters this stupid no one would be able to suspend their disbelief. More than cognitive dissonance, it's some form of sociological mental disorder and just happens to be how Marxists usually take over countries. But it's not going to happen here.

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