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    It was the highlight of Fulford's report...

    Pentagon insider called and said the Kharzarian Nazi overlords of oil are attacking because Quakifornia won't allow fracking...

    It does make you wonder what would happen if the big one hit, all our dams are built on the main fault lines...

    Trump was meeting with Abe from Japan when I tweeted, maybe he added high speed rails to areas like Oroville for quicker evacuations. Rebuilding dams and evacuation roadways to move 180,000 people out in a few hours.

    You can't plan roadways for how many need it each day, but instead how many will need it one day... that is planning...
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    Default Re: Oroville Dam... (California, Spring 2017 - current)

    [QUOTE=Rocky_Shorz;1133964]

    Quote Well the good news is the earthquake about to hit is only expected to be a 5.0
    I would imagine a 5.0 could do some damage to a dam that was already compromised,adding more stress to a reservoir that is continuing to fill quickly from snow melt and the raging Feather River. Not to mention that there are at least 4 days of more rain lining up later in the week. BTW, has anyone checked HAARP lately?

    Note: As for the California drought, don't know if folks are aware that Nestle extracted 36 million gallons of water from a national forest in California last year to sell as bottled water, even as Californians were ordered to cut their water use because of a historic drought in the state. And the permit that Nestle uses to operate its water pipeline in the San Bernardino national forest costs just $524 (£357) a year.

    So they take our water for basically free, and then sell it back to us. What a deal.
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    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    Well if you wanted Trump's attention, would you tell him some farms are going to get wet, or that the Capitol of California is about to be washed off the map because the evil Elites plan to destroy all fresh water?

    Remember the Elites announce their plan, pull it off, then use their media giants to prove it wasn't them.

    One thing we have been taught well is how fake news can be very convincing...
    I prefer to look at the most plausible explanation for things. Sure we can come up with a million possible explanations but it's just pure speculation and wishful thinking most of the time.

    Maybe the Russians, Chinese or Islamic terrorists did it! Maybe an advanced alien civilization did it! Maybe mole people dug too far up and cracked the spillway! I mean let's be real, California want's federal money to build a high speed rail system. Why would we then destroy a dam to divert the money away from that? Let me guess, that is the real plan!!!

    The conspiracy theories can be very tempting and some often turn out to be true but sometimes it can go too far and just get exhausting.
    Agreed. But there's something that keeps gnawing on my mind: The accident at the Oroville Dam early last week that injured 5 people. The accident occurred inside the bowels of the dam. It remains unexplained and anomalous. Within a few days of that accident, the spillway develops the breach and here we are now.

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    Default Re: Oroville Dam... (California, Spring 2017 - current)

    Spatial relationship between spillway and the actual dam:



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    Well no matter the cause I am a solutions first, then explore causes.

    Right now I would air drop cement, level it, and coat top to bottom with this by Wednesday.

    Cement dries under water, it will work.



    Looks like the same material as the emerald tablets, and they lasted 50,000 years...
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    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    Well no matter the cause I am a solutions first, then explore causes.

    Right now I would air drop cement, level it, and coat top to bottom with this by Wednesday.

    Cement dries under water, it will work.



    Looks like the same material as the emerald tablets, and they lasted 50,000 years...
    Makes you wonder, if they were privy to the fix...would they fix it? ...

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    Urea is made from bat guapo, so all natural...

    Looks like it totally bonds into cement


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    Oroville dam emergency demonstrates how incompetent bureaucrats are marching California into catastrophic collapse at every level...

    http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-02-1...-collapse.html

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    Dutchsinse's earthquake update

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    EQ potential forming in California 2/13/2017 New fulcrum point / silent zone @ Oroville
    More from Dutchsinse

    Tune in about 20 minutes in to hear what he says about the Oroville dam.
    It appears that area is a fulcrum point for a 5 point earthquake within the next few days.
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    Default Re: Oroville Dam... (California, Spring 2017 - current)

    The largest unknown appears to be what nature has coming in the way of weather systems.

    Man vs. Nature

    I don't know what's coming but it sure still looks ominous to me. Kind of like being it the eye of a storm. The next wave is sure to come and with the castle walls, so to speak, already compromised it will be less likely to hold off what is coming.

    I can only imagine how humbling an experience this must be for the Dam's engineers.

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    Jim Stone lost his websites domain name, jimstone.is, for a while earlier today. If you still can't get to jimstone.is (server not found or some such error), then use his IP address, as in http://82.221.129.208/.

    Jim failed to keep his contact information current with his name service provider, and so they dropped that name. Inforwars.com saw it, and got Jim control of his jimstone.is URL back again, though for some (including myself), it's still not up (and I still have to use the IP). Currently, I see that Level3, GTE, Charter and DNSadvantage name servers are resolving "jimstone.is" again, but that OpenDNS, Google and Verisign name servers still fail to resolve jimstone.is.

    Anyway - I mention that because it's Jim Stone's opinion that it was his Oroville coverage that got his DNS taken down. Jim continues to see a major problem here, with a deliberate conspiracy in progress to devastate the California Central Valley. The auxillary emergency spillway was a deeply flawed design from the beginning. It's a huge concrete wall sitting on dirt, and if it's used, as it was for the first time ever this weekend, the water flowing over it eats out the dirt on which the wall sits, from underneath the wall. This will soon lead to a catastrophic failure of that huge concrete wall, and an immense flooding. Meanwhile the primary spillway is self destructing, back up towards its flood gates, and won't survive much more serious use.

    Here's Jim's images and commentary on the failing primary spillway:
    Keep in mind that Jim is an alarmist conspiracy theorist of the first order ... but that doesn't mean that he's not right sometimes.

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    So if the dam goes, I believe that means the Central Valley, which is essentially the breadbasket of the US, may be flooded and we will have food shortages.
    This is certainly something that whistleblowers have been warning us about for a long time, for various reasons.
    Local farmers will not be able to fill the demand for produce in the US if that happens, and lack of produce that is normally exported from CA. will no doubt impact other nations as well.
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    Here's an hour long interview of Scott Cahill, an expert, honest, clear talking dam expert by Chris Martenson of PeakProsperity.com, posted on TheVictoryReport.org at Expert: What You Need To Know About The Oroville Dam Crisis.

    Scott Cahill provides a good explanation of what's going on. The failure of the main spillway is happening as he would expect, and is happening at the place in the spillway where some earlier repairs were made four years ago (and inadequately inspected since then.)

    It didn't take a recent bomb to start this failure; it's been a danger for a long time. Near the start of the interview, the interviewer quotes a lawsuit that was brought a dozen years ago, against the dam operators or regulators (not sure which), describing almost exactly the problems that were visible even then in the design and construction of the dam, and the likely failure mode. Those failure modes are happening, now.

    ===

    If you prefer reading, Scott Cahill posted an article on LinkedIn with his thoughts on the Oroville dam: The Oroville Dam Failure.
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    It didn't take a bomb, but it no doubt took some weather manipulation to create the drought and then the deluge.
    Dutchsinse has been monitoring that for quite awhile, and the activity that HAARP has been engaging in over the last couple of years most certainly has had a lot to do with it.
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    Default Re: Oroville Dam... (California, Spring 2017 - current)

    2 good news points, cold weather will bring snow level down to 4000 feet and they are only expecting 6 inches of rain...

    The 50' they lowered water level will be enough to handle this storm.

    The one's controlling the drought in California lost control with the election.

    No one could predict these storms, because Hillary losing was absolutely impossible... until it happened

    It was like one race of ETs agenda, ended with Hillary, and now we are under ET's that want us to have water to grow food, taking the power away from elites.

    If Reptilians wanted earth hotter and drier for their race, which prefers colder and wet, Nordics?
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    Quote Posted by Octavusprime (here)
    Really? You guys think they bombed it on purpose? Come on, the more plausible explanation is years of drought causes the 45 year old earthen spillway to become dry and brittle. Now we get a year of high rain and the earthen barrier shifts/moves/breaks. This isn't a conspiracy, it is a disaster. Sacramento valley was built in a flood plain. We build most of the levees/dams/sloughs in the 50's and no one is willing to spend the billions to do the maintenance. It's more a case of people and the government are more reactive than proactive. We don't fix stuff until there is a disaster.

    I live in Sacramento and no we aren't in much danger. The immediate areas have been evacuated for good reason. The valley is HUGE and is built for seasonal flooding. If the Oroville dam breaks it will dissipate over the millions of acres of farm land, hit the thousands of levee's and sloughs and then go out to sea before it hits Sacramento.

    It will and has caused significant damage and those in the immediate downstream area are in danger and could lose their houses/land but it won't consume the entire Valley. Have you seen how big the valley is?
    As someone who worked in civil engineering and was even involved in the construction of a clay core dam, (small stuff compared to this but the principals are the same), the above explanation is by far the most likely.

    Also Hervé's comment regarding the power of running water carrying particulates should never be underestimated for the damge it can do in rapid time.

    edit: I thought to include a story from my own experience - regarding corruption in construction, just like anywhere else, goes on all the time.

    I was on the testing side of civil engineering projects. The materials used in construction, from building sand to steel all have to fit certain criteria. In this particular case the soils used underneath the spillway would have had to fit a certain envolope of distribution curves known as a Particle Size Distribution Curve.



    The people doing the work often don't understand why materials have to fit these specifications and often think it even less important.

    I was testing a load of material (many loads actually) to be used as sub-base. (The compacted layer beneath a bitumen or concrete surfaced road.) They were all failing spectacularly with 40-45% fines, less than 0.5 mm. This is the stuff that will wash away easily from between larger aggregates. The actual specification called for something like 5-20% as minimum and maximums. When I condemned the loads as unsuitable there began the coaxing, including being taken out to dinner and a hint of further bribery. I rejected it. (I would not have even gone to the dinner if I'd realised, it was my first time. )

    Then calls were made to my head office. The head of department came out to the job. End of story I was sent back to the main labs and he took over for a couple of weeks. New samples arrived at head office for re-testing and it was either very selective sampling or entirely different material. It all passed perfectly and the 40 plus loads of material went into the road construction.

    The more money that is involved in a project the more the pressure to accept non-standard materials and turn a blind eye.

    Not saying that is what happened here. As Octavus Prime mentioned the material was most likely very dry. Generally a compacted material will have a natural moisture content that varies little. Excessive rain or long dry spells can and will change this over a period of time and a subsequent increase in failure parameters occurs. The standards employed for testing have been tailored to best suit all these conditions. Time is a factor that will always lead to decay and remedial repairs are often not high priority.

    I've seen the mess resulting from ignoring specifications several times.
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    Default Re: Oroville Dam... (California, Spring 2017 - current)

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    This article has several large pictures, showing the Oroville dam, the primary spillway (which has the hole in the concrete liner) and the emergency spillway (which we learned today was less capable than designed for): https://www.metabunk.org/oroville-da...failure.t8381/
    I have found this post, a thread full of scientific data, references to dam history, and stuffed with no-nonsense expertise, is invaluable in unravelling the problems, and potentially similar problems with other dams. It is a busy thread, very educational, but enthralling from start to latest...
    Thank you Paul for referencing it, invaluable, loads of images. Not to be missed
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    Default Re: Oroville Dam... (California, Spring 2017 - current)

    I get the feeling that the cabal is attacking food supply all over the Earth -this is how they are going to do it -starve us all. locusts in south America, voracious corn worm in Africa -oceans poluted with Methane and radio activity and vibrations, wild temperature fluctuations else where. No wonder Rothschild is out of oil and playing with climate & water. We can survive without oil a lot longer than water- the writing is on the wall start growing food now if you can. Fukushima was just the start. We know they control the climate and we know the climate is not helping this situation right now.

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    Default Re: Oroville Dam... (California, Spring 2017 - current)

    Water works:





    From: Mick West, Yesterday at 11:49 AM #268


    SR1419, Thursday at 9:15 AM #5



    See the shape of the rebar lattice in the concrete and some lengths of rebar.


    ... a close-up of that area reveals the actual rebar swept downstream.
    Mick West, Thursday at 3:56 PM #18



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