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    Supposedly made in the 3rd century BC, the caves of the Barabar area of India are believed to be the oldest in that country. Iron technology was present during this time period, however, it is highly doubtful that iron hand tools, even hardened by carbon (steel) could have achieved the level of refinement seen.

    Above we see the entrance to one of the caves, and the astonishing level of flatness and high polish of the surfaces would be a challenge in the 21st century AD, let alone 300 BC. We clearly have to question if the date stated, and culture that supposedly did this work is in fact true.

    These caves are situated in the twin hills of Barabar (four caves) and Nagarjuni (three caves) – caves of the 1.6 km distant Nagarjuni Hill sometimes are singled out as Nagarjuni Caves.



    Here we see the interior, and again the level of precision is simply amazing. The walls are smooth and polished, and the ceiling is in an arc shape. The idea that these ancient people with relatively crude tools “were patient and simply had a lot of time on their hands” is a ridiculous argument. This clearly appears to be Lost Ancient High Technology.



    This is hardly a new idea. In Egypt and Peru/Bolivia, there are many megalithic works that were not made by the dynastic Egyptian or Inca people whom academics insist were the creators, and this seems to also be the case in India.

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    Most caves at Barabar consist of two chambers, carved entirely out of granite, with a highly polished internal surface and exciting echo effect. The first chamber was meant for worshippers to congregate in a large rectangular hall, and the second, a small, circular, domed chamber for worship, this inner chamber probably had a small stupa like structure, at some point, though they are now empty.








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    Caves carved out of granite? Why on earth? Another possible example of something incredibly difficult being done, with supposed "primitive" technologies. What I see in the photos above would be an enormous task to do with modern engineering and technology to get refinement of that level. This was not made with primitive tools - not possible. Granite is one of the hardest stones and is not easy to carve at all - modern equipment for cutting or drilling granite usually involve diamond coated tools.

    The finish on these caves is stunning!
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    Granite ranges from hardness 6 - 7, quartz is 7. Very hard material.

    That is some incredible stonework, even for today's standards.

    Seems impossible to think such structures were made by chiselling. The precision over long distances is what gets me, and the perfect curved room - I can't imagine how that could be done by any means. Still, it is amazing the level of skill of a craftsman in any trade, it often fools the average person because if you watch them work it seems so easy until you try and realize they only make it look easy.
    Could a group of highly skilled craftsman build such a structure, probably. With that kind of accuracy - hard to imagine but maybe...

    edit to add the obvious: maybe one could be built but how many master craftsman can there be available to make several? because it probably took many years each to build, by dozens of craftsman.
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    Interesting that they are carved into granite.

    I recently watched the talk given at a recent Nexus conference by David Paulides on the cases covered in his books 'Missing 411'.
    It seems granite rock outcrops are frequently associated with mysterious phenomena and unsolved disappearances. DNA has pointed this out in this thread:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1130512


    Just a thought that this may be a reason that a granite masif was chosen for these cave constructions. Granite may facilitate the attainment of specific altered states of consciousness?

    Makes me think also of Jacob's Ladder mentioned in the Old Testament of the Bible:
    Quote He came to a certain place and spent the night there, because the sun had set; and he took one of the stones of the place and put it under his head, and lay down in that place.
    He had a dream,
    and behold, a ladder was set on the earth with its top reaching to heaven; and behold, the angels of God were ascending and descending on it.
    And behold, the LORD stood above it and said, "I am the LORD, the God of your father Abraham and the God of Isaac; the land on which you lie, I will give it to you and to your descendants...

    So Jacob rose early in the morning, and took the stone that he had put under his head and set it up as a pillar and poured oil on its top.
    He called the name of that place Bethel; however, previously the name of the city had been Luz.
    Then Jacob made a vow, saying, “If God will be with me and will keep me on this journey that I take, and will give me food to eat and garments to wear,
    and I return to my father’s house in safety, then the LORD will be my God.
    “This stone, which I have set up as a pillar, will be God’s house, and of all that You give me I will surely give a tenth to You.”

    quoted from the New American Standard Bible
    Could that stone have been granite, I wonder.
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    It seems granite rock outcrops are frequently associated with mysterious phenomena and unsolved disappearances. DNA has pointed this out.
    Just a thought that this may be a reason that a granite masif was chosen for these cave constructions. Granite may facilitate the attainment of specific altered states of consciousness?
    I think they did not choose Granite in the "Kings Chamber" of the Giza Pyramid because it was hard to chissel. Probably has something to do with how Granite resonates.

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    Simply amazing! I wonder if the script on the wall is the same one that Klaus Dona has been finding around the world?

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    Thank you uzn for this post. It seems like we never can stop learning and seeing new things on this planet. It's clear in my opinion that those caves show two different kinds of language being one more elaborate than the other. The only word that comes to my mind is: Amazing!

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    Quote Posted by uzn (here)
    Quote Posted by StandingWave (here)
    It seems granite rock outcrops are frequently associated with mysterious phenomena and unsolved disappearances. DNA has pointed this out.
    Just a thought that this may be a reason that a granite masif was chosen for these cave constructions. Granite may facilitate the attainment of specific altered states of consciousness?
    I think they did not choose Granite in the "Kings Chamber" of the Giza Pyramid because it was hard to chissel. Probably has something to do with how Granite resonates.
    The King's Chamber is indeed lined with pink granite and the huge sarcophagus in it is of red granite.
    Granite is a composite containing at least 20% quartz which is a piezoelectric crystal, meaning that under pressure it generates an electromagnetic field.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granite
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    Nice thread ........


    Barabar Caves even more impressive than Great Pyramid chambers! Lost carving tech?



    Published on 9 Feb 2017


    Vlad9vt has just put out a vid on the Barabar Caves, which I had never heard of,
    until yesterday. These things look absolutely incredible! BETTER TECH THAN GREAT
    PYRAMID? They are also among the 'oldest' rock-cut caves in India. Not even sure
    if they really are rock-cut, seem to be built on the inside. Also think they are way
    older! Although located in India, they exhibit both Egyptian and Inca influence!

    Information:

    The Barabar Caves are the oldest surviving rock-cut caves in India,[1] mostly
    dating from the Maurya Empire (322–185 BCE), some with Ashokan inscriptions,
    located in Makhdumpur Block of Jehanabad district, Bihar, India, 24 km north of Gaya.

    These caves are situated in the twin hills of Barabar (four caves) and Nagarjuni
    (three caves) – caves of the 1.6 km distant Nagarjuni Hill sometimes are singled
    out as Nagarjuni Caves. These rock-cut chambers date back to the 3rd century
    BCE, Maurya period,[2] of Ashoka (r. 273–232 BCE) and his grandson Dasharatha
    Maurya. Though Buddhists themselves, they allowed various Jain sects to flourish
    under a policy of religious tolerance.[1]

    The caves were used by ascetics from the Ajivika sect,[3] founded by Makkhali
    Gosala, a contemporary of Gautama Buddha, the founder of Buddhism, and of
    Mahavira, the last and 24th Tirthankara of Jainism.[4] Also present at the site are
    several rock-cut Buddhist and Hindu sculptures.[5]

    Most caves at Barabar consist of two chambers, carved entirely out of granite, with
    a highly polished internal surface and exciting echo effect. The first chamber was
    meant for worshippers to congregate in a large rectangular hall, and the second, a
    small, circular, domed chamber for worship, this inner chamber probably had a
    small stupa like structure, at some point, though they are now empty.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barabar...
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    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    Vlad9vt has just put out a vid on the Barabar Caves, which I had never heard of,
    until yesterday. These things look absolutely incredible! BETTER TECH THAN GREAT
    PYRAMID? They are also among the 'oldest' rock-cut caves in India. Not even sure
    if they really are rock-cut, seem to be built on the inside. Also think they are way
    older! Although located in India, they exhibit both Egyptian and Inca influence!
    Yeah Cidersomerset, I posted the Video from Vlad9vt at the end of my second Post. I also took a look at the Wikidescription. Ist funny how they say its been build by some Monks and brobably around 200 BC. Without any proof whatsoever. To be honest that Looks like from one of the Indian high Cultures that the Vedas are talking about. These "Appartments" are perfect, total shiny and after who knows how many thousands of years still in a prestine condition. What Houses or Palaces that recent men have built will last that Long? I as You think they are way older. And look at the Edges of the rooms: perfect straight. The round ceiling is perfectly round, thats not doable with some chissel
    I read something about these engraved text a while ago but did not pay to much Attention then. But it intrigued me that it Looks like someone tried to chissel out some of it. See Pictures above.



    another Entrance


    Detail of the ornamented Entrance of one of the Caves:


    Entrance of the Lomas-Rishi-Cavern, photo from 1875


    Barabar, Bihar, 1870
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    Quote Posted by uzn (here)
    Quote Posted by StandingWave (here)
    It seems granite rock outcrops are frequently associated with mysterious phenomena and unsolved disappearances. DNA has pointed this out.
    Just a thought that this may be a reason that a granite masif was chosen for these cave constructions. Granite may facilitate the attainment of specific altered states of consciousness?
    I think they did not choose Granite in the "Kings Chamber" of the Giza Pyramid because it was hard to chissel. Probably has something to do with how Granite resonates.
    The coffer (I think sarcophagus is the wrong word - it's not a coffin) in the King's chamber was drilled out hollow by an unknown means - but it has been shown that the rate of drilling speed was only able to be matched by the best current drilling techniques (sonic drilling techniques I believe - maybe a clue). So we do have evidence that the ancients had the tools to carve granite efficiently -- we just still cannot image what those tools were ... at least without completely shattering our current "accepted" paradigm.
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    Sylvie at the NewEarth youtube channel has an excellent analysis of an ancient quarrie in Crimea whose leftovers show tech that was more advanced than current rock cutting tech:

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    i wonder how it resonates inside a nice omg, and what healling effect could it have.
    Thanks and much love
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    At Guntupalle, Andhra Pradesh there is something a bit similar as the Barabar Caves:
    Guntualle Caves:








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