Melania says the Lord's Prayer the way we remember it!

[Foxie Loxie]

@EFO...thanks SO MUCH for posting the Banned Books video! It kind of completes the journey I have been on trying to figure out where our Bible came from. I see that what we have is a TOTALLY controlled version used as a political tool to concentrate power.

[Did You See Them]

Although I stopped going to church (catholic ) at the age of about 17 the words to our lords prayer was as follows:

Our Father
Who art in heaven
Hallowed be thy name
Thy kingdom come
Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven
Give us this day our daily bread
And forgive us our trespass as we forgive those who trespass against us
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
Amen.

I've heard the line "For thine is the kingdom, the power, the glory forever and ever" added as the last line since but not sure if that was in a catholic church.
Never heard of any "debts" though !

[pyrangello]

How about just saying to her prayer a comment of "AMEN".

[Desire]

Pardon me if this it a repeat. I didn't watch all of the Banned from the Bible video.

The ' Nostic Bible" edited by Willis Barnstone and Marvin Meyer, Shambhla pub. Inc. 2003 contains

Pagan, Jewish, Christian, Mandaean, Islamic and Cathar text. It includes works as The Revelation of Adam ,The Gospel

of Mary (Mary of Magdala) and On the Origin of the World, all with introductions.

Also The Book of Enoch by Joseph B.

Lumpkin contains the three books of Enoch.

Good Reading! Desire

[Desire]

Did you see Them,
Yes that part is not in the Catholic version but in most Protestant versions as well as debt instead of trespass.
Cheers ,Desire

[DbDraad]

Well I'm from Mandela's country and in my reality he was in jail for 27 years and was freed in 1990. I recal "trespasses" or "sins" but not debts. Lion and Lamb in both languages I'm used to. Wolves were the ones in sheep skins.

[Desire]

You know what? Why can't we all be happy that she said a prayer and let it go at that She PRAYED .Good for her!

[EFO]

Speaking of Cathars:
Hymn of the Cathars "Lo boièr" (Le bouvier - The cattle herder) on 432hz

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OecY9I_oPv8

The text of this Cathar hymn contains an encoded message, Joana being the medieval cathar church, which has been weakened and finally eliminated in Southern France (Occitanie) through the horrible Albigensian crusade. The spiritual essence of the cathars is still vibrating in caves and waters.
Texte occitan:
1. Can lou bouyè ben de laoura, Planto soun agulhado, A.E.I.O.U. Planto soun agulhado.
2. Troubo sa femno al pè del foc, Touto déscounsoulado.
3. "Se 'n es malaouto digas oc, Te faren un poutadzé.
4. Amb uno rabo un caoulét, Uno laouzéto magro."
5. "Quan séraï morto rébound mé, Al pus pirou de la cabo.
6. Méttras mous pès à la parét, Lou cap jous la canèlo.
7. E lous roumious que passaran, Prendran d'aïgo ségnado."
8. E diran: "Cal es mort aïci, Es la paouro Joana.
9. Que 'n es anado al paradis, Al cèl ambé sas cabros."

Traduction française:
Quand le bouvier vient de labourer, plante son aiguillon, trouve sa femme au pied du feu, toute déconfite. "Si tu es malade dis-oui! Nous te ferons un potage avec une rave, un chou, une alouette maigre." "Quand je serai morte, enterre-moi au plus profond de la cave. Tu mettras mes pieds contre la muraille et la tête sous la cannelle. Et les pèlerins qui passeront prendront de l'eau bénite et diront: 'Qui est mort ici? C'est la pauvre Joana, qui s'est en allée en paradis, au ciel, avec ses chèvres.' "

Engl. translation:
When the herdsman comes back from work, plants his fork, finds his wife at the foot of fire, all discomfited. "If you're ill say yes! We will make a soup with kohlrabi, a cabbage, a lark thin." "When I die, bury me deep in the cellar. Put my feet against the wall, the head in the tap. And the pilgrims will take the holy water and say, 'Who died here? It is the poor Joana, who went to paradise, to heaven with his goats. '"

Deutsche Übersetzung:
1. Wenn der Ochsenhirt vom Pflügen kommt, seinen Treibstab abstellt, A.E.I.O.U. seinen Treibstab abstellt.
2. Findet seine Frau am Herd ganz zermürbt.
3. "Wenn du krank bist, sag es, wir machen dir eine Suppe.
4. Mit einer Rübe, einem Kohl, einer mageren Lerche."
5. "Wenn ich tot bin, begrabe mich im Keller an tiefster Stelle.
6. Setze meine Füße gegen die Mauern und mein Haupt unter den Faßhahn
7. Und die Pilger die vorbei kommen nehmen geweihtes Wasser.
8. Und werden sagen: 'Wer ist hier gestorben? Es ist die arme Joana!
9. Die fortgegangen ist ins Paradies, in den Himmel, mit ihren Schafen.' "

Gnosis - Gnostics Cathars, the True Christians | Documentary 53:27min

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7ptNcSYo7k4

The Best Music of Cathars songs - Consolament Ensemble

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CbI0r04Mrv8

and speaking about banned gospels:
The Gospel of Judas - National Geographic

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z77htOLSBiY

[Desire]

Thank you for the beautiful music. One can feel the truth in it.

[Foxie Loxie]

Most interesting to learn more about the Cathars. Thank you, EFO!

[Sequoia]

While I thought the Lord's Prayer by Mrs Trump was a beautiful statement of our President's Christian values, do not do harm to others, not so much which version of it…oh well..just couldn't in my wildest dreams imaging M Obama ever..well ugh you get my drift.

And if anyone for a minute think i'm pro-religion you thought wrong I think they are but a way to control people's minds, but I did have a Protestant upbringing with Mom who grew up in a generational Christian cult and Dad who was a Christian Spiritualist, took me a long battle to figure out..why the Abrahamic God of both the Hebrew Bible (which Christians obediently also follow) and Quran is so angry and people who worship him, are afraid of him and kill innocent people for their God

[Sequoia]

Our Bible today is essentially Septuagint, one (1) book of 5 or 6, it only consists of Hebrew texts compiled by some 70 Jewish scholars 2000 years ago, the Egyptian and Greek texts were simply dropped, we have never seen the rest or them yet
I'm winging it off the top of my head from long time ago when I heard about this but definitely worth looking into further if interested in ancient Christian texts, before the Roman Church took over...

[seleka]

Posted by RunningDeer (here)

Posted by seleka (here)
I am surprised at the low number in forums and boards that are willing to talk about it. Its just too darn trippy. But added up, for us that came from elsewhere, these changes cannot be ignored.

Note: I understand that your post is about other forums (and boards). I decided to stop @ page 8 of 31 on the Avalon search engine.

1. The Mandela Effect. Is this CERN? Project Pegasus? The Montauk Project? The Philadelphia Experiment?
   
2. Timeline shifts
   
3. The Mandela Effect Poll
   
4. Clif High: How the Mandela Effect may be caused by quantum computing affecting consciousness fields
   
5. People Claim To Have Seen A 90s Movie By Sinbad Called “Shazaam” But It Never Existed!?!?
   
6. Research paper on The Mandela Effect: strong statistical evidence
   
7. Julianne Moore "The Forgotten" The Mandela effect.

I have read the available recent threads on the mandela effect on here. Most have people trying to prove things in them and people trying to disprove it or explain why we are just remembering wrong. I believe the solution for me is to make a support type thread in the members area. I do not wish to keep explaining it to people, especially when they get so rude. I just want a place where others that are experiencing it can talk about it with me and how it is affecting their lives.

[seleka]

For the person about the other language. For one I do not appreciate the tone of your messages. I will explain again why I think it is only affecting english stuff (which is the same thing you say). We will have three different earths in this scenario. On earth A everyone knows the words to the lords prayer from KJV (official, not different translations, all languages) as who and tresspasses. On earth B everyone knows the words to the lords prayer as which and debtors (again, same KJV official, all languages). On earth C the people from earth A in america have landed on earth B somehow (not saying this is how the effect occurs, just trying to explain why it doesn't matter if I can speak other languages to make this scenario make sense) so therefore- all other countries see NO CHANGE. Ie, their bibles will read as they always have, while the 'american' translations seem to have changed to the americans, however to the french it is the same as it always was. IE the whole world is Earth B, but the people in americal from earth A are on it now too.