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    Steven,
    This is a forum. I made a comment that was stimulated by reading your post and by reading barneythez's post. You might note that there is another thread where Robert (here) states he is looking for questions. Why not go ask him there?

    As for your other "question" I happened to have read it as "taken out" which was a mistake.

    Quote Posted by Lost N Found (here)
    I did not realize that you are in some way a spokesman for Robert David Steele. So perhaps in the future I should direct all of my questions and conversation directly to you so you can forward it all to Mr. Steele. Is that amenable to you?
    The reason you didn't realize it is because I am not.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Hello Sam and Steven,
    Just as a note, I often wondered how Bill and Kerry were still alive. Is divine intervention at play here behind the scene? Who knows, but I'm sure being a marine, and a retired CIA helps. He ain't stupid, I can bet he's on his guard at all times, maybe he's got an ace in the hole.
    I am not a spokesman for RDS either, I made a donation to his website, and he promptly asked if I had a question. I was very impressed. So, like you I asked....how can I help, and he replied to get his video's out there, and I told him about PA, and that I would post a video for him there. He joined, without me asking him to, and here he is. So each of us can help in some way or another. I'm glad I was able to do my part, even though it's not much. I wish I could be a BIG help, but I'm just small potatoes.
    Please ask questions on my post dated April 1st, I will let him know that there are some there. I told him to give it a couple of days for word to spread.
    Hope this helps,
    barney

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    To Sam and Barnythez, thank you both for you very good info. I will then visit the thread you have given. I really appreciate your posts (both of you) and have to apologize for my bumbling way of approaching questions.

    I have questions like you Barnythez I wander about a lot of the folks out here that try to spread truth or so it seems and help this world. One does see them get murdered or discredited or all sorts of things so that in itself can be some sort of confirmation that there could be truth. Don't want to sound morbid because it hurts and is so sad when people try to help and are silenced.

    Thank you both again
    Peace be with you

    Steven

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    Quote Posted by Sammy (here)
    I sent Robert Steele a question and was pleased to receive a quick response.

    My questions was -

    Hi Mr. Steele and thank you for your efforts and thank you for joining Avalon.

    For me, the most important question I have ever answered for myself is:

    “What is my metaphysical cosmological world view?”

    Why it’s my opinion that this is the most important question for me to answer for myself is that it is also my firm opinion that how I impact the world (and myself) is foundationally derived from the deepest levels of my being based upon this world view.

    When it comes to someone like yourself who has been quite proactive, who has generated a presence in the world and has made and continues to make quite a difference (compared to someone like myself who, other than my posts on the PA forum, has maintained a low profile), I am greatly interested in what might be your foundational, metaphysical cosmological world view. I know that most folks seem never to look at this question much, and so I do not assume you have but if so, I hope that you will answer this question.

    Finally, I will follow up with an e-mail to share with you my own world view which I can do in a paragraph or two at most… doing this all and only to be fair. Why I am not including this information in this e-mail is that I do not wish to influence or in any way appear to impose my own world view but feel it fair to offer this information all and only because I asked you to share your own world view.

    Kind Regards
    Sam Hunter from the Project Avalon Forum


    Robert Steel's response was - (note I did correct a few typos)

    Quote We are God. the Cosmos is God in detail, every time anyone does harm they are hurting the Cosmos in a way that will spread cancer, every time someone does good they are deepening and expanding the Cosmos in a positive way. Took me a long time to grow past me, country, world, universe.
    I just felt this post should be bumped... meaning RDS' answer.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    I too wrote to RDS to the email address listed on his Unrig website. My question was more political - I asked if they could send me info on his Election Reform Bill as I didn't find much detail on the site. I also asked when on the air to please start explaining to people more about the Election Reform bill, to deemphasize trump this and that and emphasize/summarize this bill he's selling. (I promise I was respectful.) No response. I'm not surprised he answered the vast metaphysical question that Sam posed as Rds has the ego to do so. Not surprising also was his answer - "We are God."

    I'm still in shock that my Dad passed away and I will not hear him or see him anymore. I think he passed away because - He was NOT God. I see evidence constantly of my aging, I think that is also because - I am NOT God. In a nation of approx 323M people isn't it odd that there is no one in the public domain that tries like an MLK to make us see each other as brother and sister fellow 'creations' of the Divine? I think it would have made him nauseous if it was suggested to him to start preaching that we are God. If someone today started publicly encouraging The Attainable, i.e., we are brothers and sister creations by a Divine force, he/she would probably have an "accident" before they ever hit mainstream. Instead we are encouraged to embrace the Unattainable - We are God. They say there is no more powerful drug than wanting the unattainable.

    Why is 'We Are God' not only a pillar of the new age movement but is now seeping into politics? Where did this come from?
    One could argue it's a reaction to the centuries of church indoctrination that 'we are dust and unto dust thou shalt return'. How ignoble. But somehow considering we are now largely a secular society I find that explanation old and no longer applicable. ImHo, I feel this fairly new precept is coming from the same source, the same mentality that is mandating the authoring of Charlottesville, created the Income Tax, authored Columbine, geoengineering, and much of our popular movies and Tv shows including GOT, etc., etc. - i.e,. Some office in one of our abc agencies that deal with culture creation/ culture destruction.

    But Why??? Why would the powers that be want the masses to have this belief that We Are God? Sounds at first blush empowering so why would they want that for the ordinary world citizen? Many are accustomed to saying this or that is a 'distraction'. I feel this is similar - a decoy. As the masses are made more powerless the normal anger that should be accompanying this process has to be dealt with. 'We are God' not only helps detour our intuition that something is terribly wrong but appeals to the human Ego to ensure no resistance. If I am God, well what's there to worry about, fear, get angry over, or take action against? All is well, all is good...'We are God' is Ego Food, relaxing, laid back, non threatening as opposed to empowering, particularly non-threatening to our overlords. Belief in any organized religion on the other hand will require loyalty to a God that gave its people actual tenets to follow. Now that can be threatening to the overlords. I'm not shocked our CIA agent is putting forth a belief in this Intel new age premise.

    My views I realize seem a minority view on this forum but I firmly believe that we are the Creation not the Creator and believing the opposite may feel good but I don't believe it's going to help us in any tangible way.

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    I've listened to many jeff rense interviews on youtube over the years. the latest RDS interview on jeff rense had the Comments below the vid disabled. I always read the comments to get a sense of how people are reacting to rense's views as well as his guests. I've never seen the Comments disabled. I'm sure it was RDS's request....

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    I took RDS's response in a positive way. He pointed to something that looks/feels a lot like my own "thing."

    That doesn't mean I agree with his politics and it doesn't mean I think he's a straight shooter. Making sure to clarify part two of my last sentence... I don't know, either way.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Quote Posted by Helene West (here)
    I too wrote to RDS to the email address listed on his Unrig website. My question was more political - I asked if they could send me info on his Election Reform Bill as I didn't find much detail on the site. I also asked when on the air to please start explaining to people more about the Election Reform bill, to deemphasize trump this and that and emphasize/summarize this bill he's selling. (I promise I was respectful.) No response. I'm not surprised he answered the vast metaphysical question that Sam posed as Rds has the ego to do so. Not surprising also was his answer - "We are God."

    I'm still in shock that my Dad passed away and I will not hear him or see him anymore. I think he passed away because - He was NOT God. I see evidence constantly of my aging, I think that is also because - I am NOT God. In a nation of approx 323M people isn't it odd that there is no one in the public domain that tries like an MLK to make us see each other as brother and sister fellow 'creations' of the Divine? I think it would have made him nauseous if it was suggested to him to start preaching that we are God. If someone today started publicly encouraging The Attainable, i.e., we are brothers and sister creations by a Divine force, he/she would probably have an "accident" before they ever hit mainstream. Instead we are encouraged to embrace the Unattainable - We are God. They say there is no more powerful drug than wanting the unattainable.

    Why is 'We Are God' not only a pillar of the new age movement but is now seeping into politics? Where did this come from?
    One could argue it's a reaction to the centuries of church indoctrination that 'we are dust and unto dust thou shalt return'. How ignoble. But somehow considering we are now largely a secular society I find that explanation old and no longer applicable. ImHo, I feel this fairly new precept is coming from the same source, the same mentality that is mandating the authoring of Charlottesville, created the Income Tax, authored Columbine, geoengineering, and much of our popular movies and Tv shows including GOT, etc., etc. - i.e,. Some office in one of our abc agencies that deal with culture creation/ culture destruction.

    But Why??? Why would the powers that be want the masses to have this belief that We Are God? Sounds at first blush empowering so why would they want that for the ordinary world citizen? Many are accustomed to saying this or that is a 'distraction'. I feel this is similar - a decoy. As the masses are made more powerless the normal anger that should be accompanying this process has to be dealt with. 'We are God' not only helps detour our intuition that something is terribly wrong but appeals to the human Ego to ensure no resistance. If I am God, well what's there to worry about, fear, get angry over, or take action against? All is well, all is good...'We are God' is Ego Food, relaxing, laid back, non threatening as opposed to empowering, particularly non-threatening to our overlords. Belief in any organized religion on the other hand will require loyalty to a God that gave its people actual tenets to follow. Now that can be threatening to the overlords. I'm not shocked our CIA agent is putting forth a belief in this Intel new age premise.

    My views I realize seem a minority view on this forum but I firmly believe that we are the Creation not the Creator and believing the opposite may feel good but I don't believe it's going to help us in any tangible way.
    Thank you Helene - i appreciate your REALIST viewpoint very much. I feel your STAND is the right thing to do.. Take the stand and go for it.

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    I just wanted to express gratitude for the following interview, this particular interviewer seems to bring out the best in RDS.

    We hear about how to remove Israeli influence in congress, clip the wings of the deep state and WHY the military hates Iran. Yes, it sounds like they are after Iran for their own USA reasons, but RDS makes the point that attacks made on USA have been blow-back for USA crimes.

    All power to him.

    I would like to hear more about what to do about Israel & the Zionist lobby. Clearly there have been crimes, both by Israel and by Israel influenced people in the USA (etc....)
    Assuming the US people do not simply destroy Israel when they discover the truth, how can we build a peaceful future. You cannot shut down a country, most people born in Israel are not directly responsible, and , apart from the atrocities etc, Israel is in many ways a magnificent country and a force for good.

    How to facilitate reconciliation and compensation for all the victims, including Palestinians?

    we have subcontracted the business of healing people to Companies who profit from sickness.

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    RDS certainly is an interesting chap. He said he spends $5000 per year on books. That is quite some reading material! I had to kind of admire the way he handled Kerry C in that 'reverse' interview.

    Fine I suppose if you are working to a strict time limit and want to get all pre-written questions asked but it was not a style of interviewing I had seen before. But he seemed to know Kerry Cs style well enough to want to make sure she answered his questions directly, without allowing her to go off on tangents and take control of the interview herself.

    RDS and Bill Ryan both tend to ask well crafted questions and then let the guest speak and finish speaking before they ask another question or seek clarification on a specific point. This style is appreciated by listeners such as myself.

    I really enjoyed RDS recent interview with Ben Fulford when RDS made a special trip to Japan just to see him. It does bother me that RDS is at odds with both Jason Goodman of Crowd Source the Truth and Field McConnell of Abel Danger though since I like all of them. If RDS gets to see this post it would be great to get his side of things there.

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    I find Kerry quite more concise since that interview. She goes off different tangents much less often, has stopped wanting to teach her guest and she let them speak much more

    From unpleasant listening to her interviews, it has become almost always interesting.
    Quote Posted by HaveBlue (here)
    RDS certainly is an interesting chap. He said he spends $5000 per year on books. That is quite some reading material! I had to kind of admire the way he handled Kerry C in that 'reverse' interview.

    Fine I suppose if you are working to a strict time limit and want to get all pre-written questions asked but it was not a style of interviewing I had seen before. But he seemed to know Kerry Cs style well enough to want to make sure she answered his questions directly, without allowing her to go off on tangents and take control of the interview herself.

    RDS and Bill Ryan both tend to ask well crafted questions and then let the guest speak and finish speaking before they ask another question or seek clarification on a specific point. This style is appreciated by listeners such as myself.

    I really enjoyed RDS recent interview with Ben Fulford when RDS made a special trip to Japan just to see him. It does bother me that RDS is at odds with both Jason Goodman of Crowd Source the Truth and Field McConnell of Abel Danger though since I like all of them. If RDS gets to see this post it would be great to get his side of things there.

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    Helen,
    Remember Hitler... "One country, One people, One leader?. Or how about "One world order". Now we are One god. I don't believe it is the right time for that kind of thinking . The cabal has the ability to infiltrate any movement and direct it to their ends. What a convenient way to usurp this movement and create a new one world order of their (elites0 making. Eyes open It's not the time for Cumbia.
    Thanks Helen , appreciate your views.

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    Time ticks away, and Steel's profile gets more defined.

    Kevin Annett has had a run-in with him, which he tells about in the first 40mins of this interview with Dr Katherine Horton (stop007).


    Dr. Katherine Horton - Stop 007
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    Dr. Katherine Horton interviews Kevin Annett and they discuss the disinformation levelled at campaigners.
    .................................................. my first language is TYPO..............................................

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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    Time ticks away, and Steel's profile gets more defined.

    Kevin Annett has had a run-in with him, which he tells about in the first 40mins of this interview with Dr Katherine Horton (stop007).


    Dr. Katherine Horton - Stop 007
    Streamed live on 21 Mar 2019

    Dr. Katherine Horton interviews Kevin Annett and they discuss the disinformation levelled at campaigners.



    I remember Kevin Annette pretty much lost all credibility in the alt community about five years ago. I'm a pretty big Robert David Steele fan and it will take more than the likes of a compromised Kevin Annette to make me feel otherwise



    https://genuinewitty.wordpress.com/2...annetts-fraud/


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    Action Plan: Help Us Stop Kevin Annett’s Fraud!

    Posted on April 20, 2012 | 24 Comments

    After three articles, and a very long debate, Kevin Annett’s credibility is no longer. He has been uncovered for lying, changing his story multiple times, and his rather dodgy charitable collections to a trailer park in Florida…

    I believe, with the exception of people who are too deeply invested in Kevin’s stories, most reasonable people have come to the conclusion that Mr. Annett is a con artist. So, I hope you all agree that the time has come to shut this man down.
    Kevin has a rather unorthodox method of collecting revenue & donations:

    There are a few problems with this:
    1.) Most legal charitable organizations would not only have a non-residential address to send money to.
    2.) It is not legal to deposit donations to a charitable organization into a personal chequing account.
    3.) There is no mention of a tax number or registration number for the “Intetnational Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State”.
    Considering this, taking-down Kevin will be an easy job. All we have to do is report his illegal intake of cash to the US & Canadian tax authorities and they’ll do the rest of the work for us!
    Alfred Webre was instrumental in exposing Kevin Annette as compromised. So if Keven Annette is attacking Robert David Steele, I'm going to double down on my love for Robert David Steele.




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    Hmmmm.....

    Ex-CIA?

    I've seen a few of his interviews - not impressed, just like ex-cops, military etc, HOW TO EARN is the driving force, merely giving OPINIONS is not the most revealing of sources.

    What could he possibly offer BUT an opinion or speculation based on his experience - but TRUST and CIA/FBI/MI5,6/MOSSAD/FSB don't mix and never will for some. It's their 3-minute superficial news-bites which offer what?

    He seems pleasant enough, and I bear him no ill-will - for what it's worth, being a Brit.

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    I guess I haven't noticed, about Steele joining Avalon, I would like to ask a question:" Was the interview with Alex Jone, Re the Mar's bases just 'a slip', or was there something more behind it?

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