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    Default Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    This is when I think it would be nice to have a headline page as some stories get
    buried in on going threads and get missed and I'm trying not to post two many
    threads at once...

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    US President Donald Trump has accused his predecessor of wire-tapping his phone
    a month before he was elected.

    President Trump tweeted early on Saturday: "Terrible! Just found out that Obama
    had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This
    is McCarthyism!"

    He went on to say that a court had earlier denied a wiretap request.

    The US president has given no details to back up the claim - or suggested which
    court order he was referring to.Media reports in the last few weeks have suggested
    the FBI had sought a warrant from the foreign intelligence surveillance court (Fisa)
    last summer in order to monitor members of the Trump team suspected of irregular
    contacts with Russian officials.


    The warrant was first turned down but then approved in October, according to the
    media reports.There has been no official confirmation and it is also not clear if this
    evolved into a full investigation.US President Donald Trump has accused his
    predecessor of wire-tapping his phone a month before he was elected.

    President Trump tweeted early on Saturday: "Terrible! Just found out that Obama
    had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This
    is McCarthyism!"






    Read More....

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39167110

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    This will drive CIA NN crazy....LOL


    Trump accuses Obama of wiretapping him



    Published on 4 Mar 2017
    President Trump accused former President Obama of wiretapping him during the
    2016 election without providing any evidence to support the claim. CNN has
    reached out to the Trump and Obama administrations for their responses but have
    not heard back.

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    Was Trump Tower wiretapped?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeb8LOeIB0Y
    Published on 4 Mar 2017
    President Trump tweets that Obama had Trump Tower wiretapped prior to election

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    Donald Trump accuses Obama of 'wire-tapping' his office before election

    President accuses his White House predecessor of overseeing ‘Nixon/Watergate’-style intervention

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...efore-election

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    Daily News....

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.2988588

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    Washington Post

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.8af742f4ce67

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    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...-phones-235679

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    Towergate: Donald Trump accuses 'sick' Barack Obama of 'Nixon/Watergate'
    scandal for wire-tapping his phones at Trump Tower before the election
    Trump has accused Obama of wire tapping his phones at Trump Tower on Twitter
    The president tweeted that Obama had been spying on him in October
    He claims the phones in Trump Tower were 'tapped' before his election victory

    By Dailymail.com Reporter

    Published: 12:25, 4 March 2017 | Updated: 14:47, 4 March 2017
    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4aMxwqWKX
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    The most alarming thing about this is that it sounds like Trump had no idea that everybody is "tapped" all of the time.

    Best not assume, then, that he had much of an idea about anything else that's really going on.

    Worrying.


    A possible plus, is that this may be his way of trying to correct the error of saying nice things about his deadly enemies when he first knew he'd won.
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Roger Stone also had fisa court order to have his phone tapped , emails ,texta
    calls to Donald Trump and Alex Jones , but still no Russian contacts.....

    Roger Stone Demands Proof That He Works With The Russians



    Published on 3 Mar 2017

    Roger Stone hosts the Alex Jones show and demands proof that he is a Russian agent.

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    Watergate And Russiagate, The Parallels



    Published on 3 Mar 2017
    Roger Stone breaks down the parallels between Watergate
    and the ongoing Russian witch hunt of the radical left.
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    And the division widens , terrible if proven to be accurate ...
    Raiding the Matrix One Mind at a Time ...

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Quote The most alarming thing about this is that it sounds like Trump
    had no idea that everybody is "tapped" all of the time.
    I don't think so as Bannon would know and he brought up the subject
    of being taped in Russia in a earlier interview. But now he seems to
    have proof , so the 'tweets' are out setting the press frenzy on this one
    and not reacting.....

    Quote And the division widens , terrible if proven to be accurate ...
    Yeah this could be significant.....

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    The Deep state , intel agencies/media and Dems have been doing a good job of
    deflecting the public eye from Criminal Hillary and the Clinton crime cabal and
    Pizzagate and trying to undermined Trumps authority.....


    From yesterday....

    The Deep State War on Trump



    Published on 3 Mar 2017
    The real story behind the Russia hysteria.


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    The intel/Corporate media are pressing the Russia hysteria constantly.....


    ABC News..Election timeline key for investigators of alleged Trump-Russia contacts

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvjIYdv7I5w

    Published on 3 Mar 2017

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    Investigate THIS: McCain's Ties To ISIS

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX6UrfTrd0k

    Published on 4 Mar 2017

    It is not simply Democrats who are mounting a coup against Trump. McCain is
    essentially the political spokesman for the surveillance state that is leaking and
    faking information to discredit or entrap Trump — the deep state who have set the
    world on fire with “regime change”. It was an open “secret” that our government
    armed and created ISIS even before the Kerry tapes surfaced. Yet McCain
    continues to meet with ISIS/Al Qaeda terrorists, sneaking across the border to
    meet with them at the end of February. McCain’s policy of creating & aiding ISIS for
    regime change is NOT Trump’s policy of destroying ISIS. Why is his secret meeting
    not aiding & abetting terrorists and seditious conspiracy?

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Trump accuses Obama of having 'wires tapped' in Trump Tower

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f55rcvF-NQ
    Published on 4 Mar 2017

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    Geraldo: Obama operatives planted landmines for Trump

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ8O9jjTykI

    Published on 4 Mar 2017
    Fox News correspondent reacts on 'Fox & Friends' after the president accuses the
    Obama White House of wiretapping

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    CIA NN still blaming Russia and Trump for anything....

    Trump Tweet: Trump Accuses Obama of Wiretapping Trump Tower

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlC0HiMfPCE
    Published on 4 Mar 2017

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    Further discussion on Trump Accusing Obama of Wiretapping Trump Tower

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WrY54KEwMk
    Published on 4 Mar 2017

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    Trump tweets Obama wiretapped him before election

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2mjqS0JIl0
    Published on 4 Mar 2017

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    Lt. Col. Shaffer on wiretapping: This is Soviet behavior



    Published on 4 Mar 2017
    Retired U.S. Army intelligence officer speaks out
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    It often sounds as if Obama himself, as a single person, just 'did' it, as if 'I got this idea and now I pursue it'....

    Also just wondering if 'finding out' is because as President he got information about 'the private person', and shared it as President about the private person.
    On Twitter....
    As if this is even an unthinkable thing, as if tapping didn't exist, and of course wouldn't be used on any people running for President..


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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Of course, with the NSA's Prism programs, all of his phone conversations were being recorded and in our "democracy", we have no accountability as to who can access this information and how it can be used.

    So then we Americans can conclude, Mr. President Trump, that you will eliminate all these programs that invade the privacy of ordinary Americans, right????

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Trump Wants NSA Program Reauthorized But Won’t Tell Congress How Many Americans It Spies On
    https://theintercept.com/2017/03/04/trump-wants-nsa-program-reauthorized-but-wont-tell-congress-how-many-americans-it-spies-on/


    Quote THE WHITE HOUSE wants Congress to reauthorize two of the NSA’s largest surveillance programs before they expire at the end of the year.

    One of them scans the traffic that passes through the massive internet cables going in and out of the U.S. and ends up catching vast number of American communications in its dragnet.

    But how many? Lawmakers have been asking for years, and the intelligence community has consistently refused provide even a ballpark figure.

    At a hearing of the House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday, several members expressed frustration that intelligence chiefs – first under Obama, and now under Trump — have failed to provide any kind of estimate, even in classified briefings.

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Quote Of course, with the NSA's Prism programs, all of his phone conversations were being
    recorded and in our "democracy", we have no accountability as to who can access this information
    and how it can be used.
    This ties in with a post I put on another thread before I saw the Tap headline,
    The article about the British general in significant as the 'Deepstate' has longstanding
    influence in both US & UK intelligence and with other agencies allied to them,
    from WW11 and the cold war.

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    Deep state operatives within the intel agencies and government have been looking
    to re create cold war conditions and is at the heart of this Russia hysteria and other
    incidents including Trumps rearming programme which will keep the Mil ind complex
    that does create many jobs , which is how the President in looking at it , but is he
    being manipulated ? Generals and Admirals need armies/navies and it helps the
    globalist agenda so he will have to be very carefull what happens next as his good
    intensions could be 'hijacked' by the dark forces that have been luring and in control
    for a long time.....

    Also be prepared for some sort of 'false flag' whether it be real world or cyber attacks



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    Declassified Documents Depict Deeper Link Between the CIA and American Media

    By Andrew Cheetham on 4 March 2017 GMT



    MOCKINGBIRD MIRROR: Declassified Docs Depict Deeper Link Between the CIA and American Media

    March 1, 2017 By Shawn Helton 6 Comments


    21st Century Wire says…

    ‘Over the past month, more than 12 million declassified documents from the CIA have been reportedly
    published online. While the intelligence docu-dump supposedly sheds additional light on covert war
    programs, psychic research and the Cold War era, it also contains more evidence confirming the
    symbiotic relationship between the CIA and American media.’

    Read more: Declassified Documents Depict Deeper Link Between the CIA and American Media


    The United States Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to
    Intelligence Activities found in 1975 that the CIA submitted stories to the American press:



    http://21stcenturywire.com/2017/03/0...merican-media/


    CIA Partners with Fake News ...Operation Mockingbird and the American pysops ..



    Published on 4 Mar 2017

    The Washington Post, Amazon, and the CIA. The Post’s new owner, Jeff Bezos, is
    the founder and CEO of Amazon — which recently landed a $600 million contract
    with the CIA. But the Post’s articles about the CIA are not disclosing that the
    newspaper’s sole owner is the main owner of CIA business partner Amazon. Darrin
    McBreen and Jon Rappoport (NoMoreFakeNews.com) reporting.

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    British NATO General wants cyber-attacks to trigger article 5 collective response

    By Andrew Cheetham on 4 March 2017 GMT War and Terror

    RT NEWS.....

    British NATO General wants cyber-attacks to trigger article 5 collective response
    3rd march 2017



    Short vid on link.....https://www.rt.com/uk/379371-nato-cyber-attack-war/

    ‘NATO’s top European commander wants cyber-attacks to be considered a strong enough reason
    to trigger the alliance’s Article 5 which contains the principle of collective self-defense.

    General Adrian Bradshaw, the Deputy Supreme Allied Commander Europe accused Moscow of
    cyber and informational attacks, telling the BBC the West needs “a grand strategy” to combat
    Russian “hybrid warfare.”Currently, Article 5 declares that an “armed attack” against one or
    more NATO member states shall be considered an attack against all of them, leading to an
    appropriate collective response.

    For Bradshaw, however, this definition is not broad enough to ensure the effective operation
    of the Alliance. “The West must respond by using all the tools at its disposal – economic,
    political, diplomatic as well as military – to deter Russian aggression”, the general reportedly said.’

    Read more: British NATO General wants cyber-attacks to trigger article 5 collective response

    https://www.rt.com/uk/379371-nato-cyber-attack-war/
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    Obama 'never ordered Trump wire-tapping'

    4th March 17


    Mr Trump called Mr Obama a "bad (or sick) guy" in a series of tweets on Saturday



    President Donald Trump's accusation that his predecessor ordered his phones to be
    tapped is "simply false", Barack Obama's spokesman has said.

    Kevin Lewis said that "neither President Obama nor any White House official ever
    ordered surveillance on any US citizen".

    Mr Trump had tweeted: "Terrible! Just found out Obama had my "wires tapped" in
    Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!"

    He gave no details to back the claim.

    read more.....
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39168149

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    Ben Rhodes fires back at Trump wiretap claims

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4emvJOjekso
    Published on 4 Mar 2017

    Ben Rhodes, who served on the National Security Council for the Obama
    administration, fired back via Twitter at Donald Trump's tweets that claimed that
    former President Obama had Trump Tower wiretapped during the election.

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    ‘This is McCarthyism!’ Trump claims Obama wiretapped him before election

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VYiOubh0Hk

    Published on 4 Mar 2017
    US President Donald Trump has accused his predecessor Barack Obama of “wire
    tapping” Trump Tower just before his election win in November, according to his
    latest tweet.

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    Trump accuses Obama of wiretapping him without citing evidence



    Published on 4 Mar 2017
    President Trump issued a new accusation against former President Obama on
    Twitter. Mr. Trump made the claim that Obama wiretapped him but cited no
    evidence. CBS News justice reporter Paula Reid joins CBSN with the latest.
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Why is Trump accusing Obama admin of wiretapping now?



    Published on 4 Mar 2017

    USA Today White House correspondent provides insight

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    Supporters rally for Trump in New York

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLhDR6v1Uk4

    Published on 4 Mar 2017
    A crowd gathered outside of Trump Tower in New York to show their support for
    President Trump in a scene playing out in cities across the US. CNN's Sara Ganim
    reports.

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    Reaction to Trump's wiretapping tweets, health care battle



    Published on 4 Mar 2017
    Political panel weighs in

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    Trump issues fiery accusations against Obama

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMCDGH47VE0

    Published on 4 Mar 2017

    President Trump has issued some new fiery claims against the Obama
    administration. Mr. Trump tweeted unverified claims that Mr. Obama's team was
    wiretapping his campaign. USA Today Congressional Correspondent Eliza Collins
    joins CBSN with the latest.
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Delete the Elite !

    I like that.
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    OBAMA'S FBI WIRETAPS TRUMP: Deep State in Control. CIA Spied on Senate in 2014

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8wZFHvX3_g

    Published on 4 Mar 2017
    We’re in the McCarthy Era. Senator Jeanne Shaheen Calls Russian Hacking an ‘Act of War’

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    MSNBC like CIA NN are very anti Trump...Russia , Russia , Russia.....

    No, Presidents Can’t Order Wiretaps | AM Joy | MSNBC

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YL5CX9zUNQ

    Published on 4 Mar 2017
    Donald Trump tweeted accusations Saturday that former president
    Barack Obama ordered a wiretap of Trump Tower during the election,
    a legally impossible claim, as ties between Trump advisers and Russian
    operatives mount. Joy and her panel discuss.

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    Trump accuses Obama of wiretapping Trump Tower

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28zrxXaNUkA

    Published on 4 Mar 2017
    President Trump accused former President Obama of wiretapping Trump Tower
    before the election. Former FBI Assistant Director Ron Hosko joins CBSN by phone
    with the latest.

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    Obama spokesman denies wiretapping claims



    Published on 4 Mar 2017
    Those close to former President Obama are rejecting President Trump's accusation
    that he wiretapped Trump Tower during the election. CBSN political contributor
    Kevin Sheridan joins CBSN to discuss.

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    Sen. Sasse: Trump should provide wiretap proof

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQK_t8UNwHw

    Published on 4 Mar 2017
    Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE) has released a statement calling for President Trump to
    provide the public with information regarding his wiretapping claims.
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    And what, or who, was Trump's source for this?

    Does his name start with a P?

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Considering the level of surveillance we know exists in our world today, this should not even be a surprise to Trump.

    Snowden and others have made it clear that EVERY single phone call, email, text, tweet, facebook message, google search, and what your watching on TV is being captured and stored for later use. There is nothing that escapes this net and the net keeps getting bigger. I have no doubt that Obama, after 8 years of being president, had access to wiretapping and net surveillance data from any source he wished for.

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    What is going on? First Wikileaks tweets about Clinton, which I see no proof of in the links they provided; Trump makes a claim on Obama, I see no proof provided again?!

    Now there is no way in hell I'm ever going to side with Obama or Clinton, but I am disappointed at this sloppiness.
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Presenting no evidence, Trump accuses Obama of spying on him

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ufcZg7WbT8
    Published on 4 Mar 2017
    ABC NEWS

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    Did President Obama Spy On Donald Trump? | True News


    Published on 4 Mar 2017

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    EDWARD SNOWDEN PREDICTED OBAMA WIRETAPPING TRUMP: WikiLeaks,
    Snowden Exposed Domestic Spying



    Published on 4 Mar 2017

    We’re in the McCarthy Era. Senator Jeanne Shaheen Calls Russian Hacking an ‘Act of War’

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    Obama Wiretapping Trump May Have "Enormous Consequences" - Geraldo Rivera | Watters' World

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNbFoRu1IRI
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    Trump urged to back up claims his phones were tapped by Obama

    read more...
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39170985
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    I love it , the machine of Obama and his media make claims Russia hacked the election now President Trump acusses Obama of wire tapping, both make claims with no evidence ... over one year of the Russians are working with Trump and so far NOT one shred of proof has been presented... the corrupt media getting a dose of their own medicine ... we will just say it with no proof and muddy the water...
    Raiding the Matrix One Mind at a Time ...

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Quote the corrupt media getting a dose of their own medicine
    This is why we are all rivoted to this election ....LOL This is the first election
    in the US or UK that I have spent so much energy on and its only just begun...



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    Herein I explicate and limn the bill of particulars and gravamen of my indictment
    against Obama and the Deep State.

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