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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Quote Posted by Helene West (here)
    I anxiously await Vault 7 #2
    Same here!

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Quote so what I'm getting is:
    whatever evidence white house gave on friday to stand by trump was reviewed over weekend and is now debunked.
    the witch hunt against trump continues.
    the witch hunters are still running the show
    If I'm off on above please correct me...
    I anxiously await Vault 7 #2
    Early days yet , not sure about Fridays info possibly to early to use ? I do like the
    fact Trey Gowdy is on the panel he is bright and sharpe and will not let Trump be
    railroaded if he does have a provable case. Rep Shiff is really going after Roger
    Stone which was predicted a few days ago on the Alex Jones show. The problem is
    getting information into the investigation presented coherently .

    I don't think it was another coincidence Roger Stone was T'boned in his car a
    few days ago.....

    Roger Stone Hosts Infowars 3/15 Following Car Accident or hit/ Russia Narrative / Deep State

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIyIEgQgd-4

    Published on 15 Mar 2017
    Roger Stone Co-Hosts Infowars 3/15 Car accident/ Russia Narrative / Deep State

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    FBI TO CONGRESS: RUSSIA DID NOT DEAL DIRECTLY WITH WIKILEAKS AND
    JULIAN ASSANGE. No WikiLeaks Link



    Published on 20 Mar 2017
    FBI Director James Comey just now at US House Intelligence Committee Hearing:
    Russia "didn't deal directly with WikiLeaks".
    https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/...

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    LIVE STREAM: James Comey Testifies On President Trump Wiretapping Claims &
    Russian Interference



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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    What's certain is that someone is lying... they can't both be right

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Quote What's certain is that someone is lying... they can't both be right
    There was a funny comment by Comey on the live link a few mins ago
    which I hope gets segmented. Answering a question about Lying he
    said its not unlawfull to lie to a reporter which made the audience gasp.

    It will be explained better if someone segments the full exchange...


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    CIA NN just segmented this clip Comey says the Russian cyber attack was very noisy...

    That sounds like the CIA or someone possibly leaving a Russian cyber footprint ??
    per Vault 7...

    Comey: Russia didn't keep intrusions quiet



    Published on 20 Mar 2017
    FBI Director James Comey says that Russians were "unusually loud" in their
    intervention of the 2016 Presidential election.
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Comey and Rogers Congressional Hearing: No Evidence
    of Russian Hacking or Stealing the 2016 Election



    Published on 20 Mar 2017
    So why are we here? What was the point of this? What was accomplished, other than this:
    No evidence that Russia hacked or effected the election of 2016 and they refuse to say
    whether Obama ordered taps of Trump. And it’s the Roger Stone Show! What a colossal
    waste of valuable time.

    FBI Director James Comey and NSA Director Admiral Michael Rogers were among the
    witnesses testifying at a House Select Intelligence Committee hearing on Russian interference
    in the 2016 presidential election. Congressional Democrats and their media allies hope that
    Comey will deliver a “body blow” to the Trump presidency by telling lawmakers Russia
    somehow undermined the 2016 presidential election and that Trump’s claim that Obama
    wiretapped Trump Tower is groundless. They never said that. They just couldn’t comment
    or verify. Nice, huh?

    But Democrats are worried that Comey will make other statements that could severely
    undermine their efforts to destroy Trump and possibly turn the tables on them. Since this
    will be a public hearing of the House Intelligence Committee, we were subjected to an
    endless series of self-righteous and preening questions by Democratic committee members
    on the wiretapping of Trump Tower charge inter alia. Democrats want this to be the lead
    story coming out of the hearing and will extract as many sound bites as possible of Comey
    debunking this charge for CNN, The New York Times and the Washington Post — Democratic
    apparatchiks and propaganda units. Democratic committee members pressed Comey on
    Russian interference in the 2016 election and contacts between Trump campaign officials
    and Russians but learned nothing of consequence or importance.

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    According to Lionel's take the whole purpose of the hearings were to:
    1) Demonize Russia
    2) Protect Nato

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Quote According to Lionel's take the whole purpose of the hearings were to:
    1) Demonize Russia
    2) Protect Nato
    Day one of the hearings was very partisan and Trey Gowdy just
    summed it up pretty well at the end of the day ....




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    Per Lionels point

    A lot of this centres around the Russian reintegration of the Ukraine
    after a referendum supporting it by the Crimean populous. The US/UK
    were guarantor's of Ukraine sovereignty after it became independent
    after the collapse of the Soviet Union. This is where this gets complicated.
    NATO was not supposed to expand to the Russian borders which it has and
    there is a large ethnic Russian population in the Ukraine which has felt
    beleaguered since the alleged US intel backed coup in Kiev in 2014. So
    like all civil wars it is very messy and all sides blame each other...

    Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budape...ity_Assurances

    BBC Silent - Obama admits he started Ukraine revolution
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES4jslRzQwI
    Published on 2 Feb 2015

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    Most but not all want to stay in Russia...

    Crimea: Three years after annexation - BBC News



    Published on 20 Mar 2017
    It is three years since Russia annexed the Crimean peninsula from
    Ukraine. The BBC's Steve Rosenberg talks to people living there
    about life under Russian rule.

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    Lionel's also talks about the 'rumour' that the NSA/CIA and GCHQ help each
    other out , they share the same intel gathering data base and the UK
    gets subsidized by the US for the service and facilities it is alleged.
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Quote Lionel's also talks about the 'rumour' that the NSA/CIA and GCHQ help
    each other out , they share the same intel gathering data base and the UK
    gets subsidized by the US for the service and facilities it is alleged.
    This is quite topical as in the report below they talk about Comey just
    being appointed by Obama. Also Glenmore Treaner Harvey, editor in chief
    of the World Intelligence Review website. Says NSA and GCHQ are
    like Brother and sister and it even transferred operations to the UK
    when it had a massive breakdown at home. He even mentions the Russian
    FSB as doing the same thing, no secret....


    MENWITH HILL: NSA's Spy Center in the UK - 2012 Report ( This is not new) !!

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...is-not-new----


    I have touched on this in a previous post....This will also explain why any leaks
    about this place will be treated as a violation of National Security ......and
    why the US/UK are so interlinked at this level, it goes back to WW11 thru
    the cold war to today. A massive defence bureaucracy that needs an enemy
    or the fear of one.



    British Big Bro: UK spy agency & NSA 'siblings', share mined data



    Published on 22 Jun 2013

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...732#post691732

    With the US grappling with privacy debates over its recently exposed surveillance
    tactics President Obama has nominated James Comey to lead the FBI. He is a
    former high ranking Justice Department official under President George W. Bush.
    RT talks about this surveillance issue with Glenmore Treaner Harvey, editor in chief
    of the World Intelligence Review website.

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    NSA investing $300 million in UK intelligence center



    Published on 20 May 2014

    Washington is investing $300 million to convert a US military base in the United Kingdom
    into a National Security Agency intelligence center. RAF Croughton will employ up to 1,250
    personnel and is expected to be upgraded by 2017. The facility, which will be one of the
    largest outside the US, will be shared with the Government Communications Headquarters
    (GCHQ), Britain's NSA equivalent. RT's Polly Boiko reports from London with more details
    on the NSA's massive expansion plans.
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    As per expected questions kicked off and dominated with the hearings....

    3/20/17: White House Press Briefing



    Published on 20 Mar 2017
    White House Press Briefings are conducted most weekdays
    from the James S. Brady Press Briefing Room in the West Wing

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    To comment or not to comment: Questions
    remain about alleged Russian interference

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMC2ceagaOg

    Published on 20 Mar 2017
    RT America's Manila Chan was at the House Select Committee on Intelligence,
    where FBI and NSA directors testified before concerning allegations of Russian
    interference in the 2016 election and President Donald Trump’s claims his
    campaign was spied on.
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    Alex Jones (3rd HOUR Commercial Free) Monday 3/20/17: David Horowitz, Roger Stone



    Published on 20 Mar 2017
    http://www.infowars.com/app/ --
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    Propaganda and disinformation at the Comey hearing

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-eMeWmXtfg

    Published on 20 Mar 2017
    The House Intelligence Committee hearing failed to produce any evidence of Russia's
    involvement in the 2016 presidential elections, but there were other issues that were
    not raised at all. RT America's Alexey Yarosevshky breaks them down.

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    Larry Johnson is Judge Napolitano Source over "Obama Used British Spy Agency"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un2ZkBKQZD0

    Published on 19 Mar 2017
    CNN - BRIAN STELTER
    Interview with the source of Judge Napolitano story that Obama bugged Trump

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    FBI confirms probe into possible collusion between Trump campaign and Russia

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emt4yXrPhjs

    Published on 20 Mar 2017
    GOP strategist Ford O’ Connell, The Daily Caller News Foundation editor-in-chief
    Christopher Bedford and Rasmussen Reports politics analyst Amy Holmes discuss
    FBI Director James Comey’s testimony on Capitol Hill regarding Russia’s possible
    involvement in the U.S. election.
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    FBI confirms probe into possible collusion between Trump campaign and Russia

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emt4yXrPhjs

    Published on 20 Mar 2017


    GOP strategist Ford O’ Connell, The Daily Caller News Foundation editor-in-chief
    Christopher Bedford and Rasmussen Reports politics analyst Amy Holmes discuss
    FBI Director James Comey’s testimony on Capitol Hill regarding Russia’s possible
    involvement in the U.S. election

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cSXjkMkfd4

    Published on 20 Mar 2017
    The 'Special Report' All-Star panel weighs in

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    Revelations, fallout from hearing on Russian interference

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8ashV4pM68

    Published on 20 Mar 2017
    Reaction and analysis on 'The Five'

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    John McAfee: No Proof Russians Hacked The Election



    Published on 20 Mar 2017
    John McAfee breaks down how completely ridiculous it is that the
    "intelligence agencies' are pushing the idea that the Russians
    hacked the 2016 elections.

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    Super Snowden Whistleblower Releases 600,000,000 Pages Of Illegal NSA Spying

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFJ34OAmzP8

    Published on 20 Mar 2017
    This latest dump of documents is huge and proves that
    the NSA has been conducting illegal spying for years.

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    Russia cloud to continue to follow Trump, Dem. Rep. Eric Swalwell has not got
    a clue and his rhetoric does not stand up when pressed by Tucker....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-RKNeWBGGY

    Published on 20 Mar 2017
    It wasn't a good day for President Trump as FBI Director Comey confirmed a probe
    on possible collusion between Trump camp ad Russia in election and no evidence of
    wiretapping by Obama. Tucker and Dem. Rep. Eric Swalwell face off #Tucker

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    What happened at the congressional hearings?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hoy91ucsK_A

    Published on 20 Mar 2017
    'The O'Reilly Factor': Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points 3/20

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    Hannity: The real scandal is laws are being broken

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiP-WjohkYg

    Published on 20 Mar 2017
    We've seen the repeated leaking of classified information meant to inflict damage
    on President Trump and his administration
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    This is a circus LOL. Considering the mounting evidence presented by Alex's guests (and others), does anyone believe what the "intelligence" agencies (and Comey) are telling us?
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Quote This is a circus LOL. Considering the mounting evidence presented by Alex's guests (and others),
    does anyone believe what the "intelligence" agencies (and Comey) are telling us?
    Yes this is a farce and the deep state causing chaos ( order out of chaos) There motto
    to adjust policy in the after math of their puppet Hillary. Some of the politicians are
    so ignorant and compliant it is ridiculous. The intel agencies and mil ind complex
    needs wars or the threat of war to keep their budgets up. Trump has obliged by
    increasing the defence budget to try and keep them happy and it does create
    many jobs in the US. The interview above with Tucker Carlson & Dem. Rep. Eric Swalwell
    would be funny if it was not serious. Many members do not seem to have a clue
    whats happening and some of the more senile think Putin is attacking North Korea
    and anothers not sure who is the President ....LOL


    What this really is about is a cover up of all the leaks and 'whistle blower' evidence
    by blaming Russia they are deflecting there own 'Big brother' spying programmes
    and are doing a classic 'Problem Reaction Solution' psyops . Where the mainstream
    and congress will be crying out for them to increase cyber defence to protect them
    against a false enemy....'Classic'....

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    Russia a natural ally against ‘radical Islam’ – Ann Coulter



    Published on 20 Mar 2017
    US-Russia relations have historically been fraught with conflict and disagreement.
    But according to author Ann Coulter, Russia is not America’s enemy. She joins
    “News with Ed” to discuss her recent article, the mainstream media’s Russia
    hysteria and RT America’s strange reputation.

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    ‘Suspect of trade relations makes no sense’ – Ron Paul Institute director
    on alleged Trump collusion

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAIY-2_o4qc

    Published on 21 Mar 2017
    For the first time, the FBI director James Comey has publicly confirmed there's
    an investigation into claims that Russia meddled in last year's U.S. presidential
    election and also suspected collusion between President Trump's campaign and
    Moscow. The statement came as Comey and his NSA counterpart testified before
    Congress on Monday. READ MORE: https://on.rt.com/86c0

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    DEBATE: Will MSM wear itself out over Trump & Russia?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_SGb4b2-U8

    Published on 20 Mar 2017
    Will Democrats ever be satisfied that Russia did not tip the election? Ed Martin,
    president of the Eagle Forum, and David Burstein, contributor to Vanity Fair,
    join “News with Ed” to discuss the widening rift between Trump’s supporters and
    those who continue to dispute his legitimacy.

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    No Evidence Russia Actually Changed Votes – Mark Steyn – Tucker Carlson Tonight
    Fox News 3/20/17

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg14wdXX40U

    Published on 20 Mar 2017
    Tucker Carlson interviews Mark Steyn about the possibilities of actually trying to
    get along with Russia instead of spreading the propaganda that they "hacked the
    election".

    Originally aired March 20, 2017. No Evidence Russia Actually Changed Votes – Mark
    Steyn – Tucker Carlson Tonight Fox News 3/20/17
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    This is a circus LOL. Considering the mounting evidence presented by Alex's guests (and others), does anyone believe what the "intelligence" agencies (and Comey) are telling us?
    Unfortunately yes, all the Hillary supporters and other Democrats who can't face the truth that they lost. "They couldn't have lost 'to him', it must have been rigged!" and of course the MSM's shriek-a-meter is continuing this false narrative non-stop.

    Sorry to say, many are still in a deep trance.
    Blessed are the cracked, for they are the ones who let in the light!

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Not related but interesting.....

    President Trump Signs S. 442 . NASA Deep Space exploration.



    Published on 21 Mar 2017

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    Ingraham: Democrats want President Trump out

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZErK_SL64E

    Published on 21 Mar 2017
    Fox News contributor sounds off


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    Gingrich & Dobbs discuss FBI Director Comey's strange behavior and Deepstate
    leakers...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HTeus5LSzk

    Published on 21 Mar 2017

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    Trey Gowdy seems a pretty straight guy and will keep his eye on Comey
    and the others. Though like many others he is not fan of wiki leaks which
    is not a surprise....

    TREY GOWDY TALKS ABOUT THE JAMES COMEY HEARING | FOX AND FRIENDS



    Published on 21 Mar 2017

    Trey Gowdy discuss James Comey on Fox and Friends.

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    Rep. Gowdy: Not only do I like Comey, he has an incredibly difficult job

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8JmS-QUzAM

    Published on 21 Mar 2017
    Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) on intel leaks, FBI Director James Comey's testimony on
    Capitol Hill and President Trump's claims Trump Tower was wiretapped by the
    Obama administration.
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    The Comey Hearing: Breathtaking Incoherence and
    Kremlin-Baiting Neo-McCarthyism Front and Center



    Published on 21 Mar 2017
    What was that all about? So why are we here? What was the point of this?
    What was accomplished, other than this: No evidence that Russia hacked
    or effected the election of 2016 and they refuse to say whether Obama
    ordered taps of Trump. And it’s the Roger Stone Show! What a colossal
    waste of valuable time.

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    Donald Trump: The Greatest President Since FDR
    In Connecting With Main Street America’s Values

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5PYLMpgldY

    Published on 21 Mar 2017
    Like FDR, Trump connects with mainstream, Main Street and the Heartland
    in a way that the elite media cannot — note, CANNOT — understand. They
    cannot see how anyone could actually care about jobs, factory closings, crime,
    immigration crises and making America great again. The man is simply a genius.

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    TRUMP IMPEACHMENT ONLY GOAL OF RUSSIA HEARING: Democrats Will Not
    Impeach Trump

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ew46q7E8Oo

    Published on 21 Mar 2017
    Good write up of the Donna Brazile debate rigging saga by @hagoodman

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    CIA DEEP STATE DOES NOT EXIST TO DEMOCRATS: Politico Denies Existance of
    CIA NSA Deep State

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oUrzTim0Tc

    Published on 21 Mar 2017
    WIKILEAKS TWEET OF COUNTER PROPA BRAZILE ARTICLE
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    ‘Stop breaking the law’: Snowden fires back at Comey



    Published on 21 Mar 2017
    Edward Snowden has reacted to the testimony from the directors of the FBI and the
    NSA discussing whistleblowers before the House Intelligence Committee. As Congressman
    Trey Gowdy asked whether journalists can be prosecuted for reporting on classified
    information, Snowden noted that Comey didn't outright say, "No." For more on this,
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    Republicans dodge wiretap questions ....CIA NN 'Sniping' as usual....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvTI82LUqxI

    Published on 21 Mar 2017
    When asked about President Trump's wiretapping claim, some Republicans made
    excuses while others skirted the issue entirely.

    Ukraine claims document ties Manafort to illegal payments

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    Published on 21 Mar 2017
    Ukrainian lawmakers claim a new document may be proof that US President Donald
    Trump's ex-campaign chair Paul Manafort received illegal payments from former
    pro-Russian Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych.
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Hume: None of Russia evidence adds up to anything

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS8yoFZOIwQ

    Published on 21 Mar 2017
    Fox News senior political analyst on the hysteria surrounding allegations
    that Russia impacted the 2016 elections, how it will continue to dog
    Trump and Trump's disputed wiretapping allegations

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    Ingraham slams 'aggressive lack of curiosity' about leaks

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm25lF6usms

    Published on 21 Mar 2017
    Fox News contributor weighs in on 'Hannity'

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    The Deep State War Against Russia Exposed

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOYI81LCnYI

    Published on 21 Mar 2017
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