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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Absolute Proof of Who Actually Tampered With the 2016 Election

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEz3MfsuMxA

    Published on 22 Mar 2017


    The “Access Hollywood” tape that nearly derailed Donald Trump’s 2016
    presidential campaign and got host Billy Bush fired was leaked by the
    “Today” show staff, according to a New York Post report and Breitbart.
    A source told the paper that the leak was planned by NBC News with
    the intent to hurt Trump.

    According to the Page Six story:

    The infamous “Access Hollywood” tape — in which President Donald
    Trump bragged about grabbing women by the hoo-ha — was an inside
    job, leaked by an NBC News staffer on Billy Bush’s own “Today” show,
    multiple sources tell Page Six.

    “The tape was leaked by the NBC News division, by somebody at the
    ‘Today’ show,” says one source. “NBC News knew for a while about
    the existence of the tape. Billy himself had told them about it. People
    in the news division became frustrated that ‘Access Hollywood’ was
    taking too long to air it and decided it had to come out.”

    “Access” had been working on airing a sanitized version of the tape,
    which revealed Trump’s comments but protected Bush by editing out
    his. But the full tape, which was leaked to the Washington Post,
    featured Bush goading the president. The leak got Bush fired from
    “Today,” which was, according to the source, part of the plan.

    “The leaked tape served a dual purpose: It helped get Bush out of
    the way — Matt Lauer didn’t like him and felt he was a liability —
    and NBC thought it would derail Trump,” says the source. “But all
    it did was crush Billy, and, ironically, his own network was behind it.”

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    So to spare us from having to listen to anther 20 minute video, did Trump actually say that he enjoyed grabbing women's crotches?
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Quote So to spare us from having to listen to anther 20 minute video,
    did Trump actually say that he enjoyed grabbing women's crotches?
    Try 13m.20 secs in.....sort of but the point Lionel is saying the tape was illegal
    to leak .

    Trumps explanation at the time that it was male 'trash talk' is probably nearer
    the mark , but who knows ?


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    Trump was not wire tapped but may have been accidently spied on....LOL





    Trump team 'incidentally monitored' after election
    13 minutes ago

    Post-election communications of Donald Trump's team were swept up in an
    "incidental collection" by intelligence agencies, a Republican lawmaker says.

    House intelligence committee chairman Devin Nunes said individuals were
    named in "widely disseminated" reports, which he said was "totally inappropriate".

    Mr Nunes said this was not evidence to back Mr Trump's claim that Barack
    Obama had ordered wiretapping of Trump Tower.

    But when asked if he felt vindicated, Mr Trump said: "I somewhat do."

    Mr Nunes also insisted the collected information was not linked to an FBI
    investigation into alleged links between the Trump team and Russian officials
    during the election campaign.He said the incidental collection was apparently
    legal but "I don't know if it's right", adding that some of the information he
    had seen "seems to be inappropriate".

    Such gathering of intelligence is usually related to communications US
    individuals have with foreign powers.But American citizens involved in such
    incidental information are usually unidentified.

    read more...
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39358363


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    Nunes on Trump's personal communcations

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HqU1aFNP8E

    Published on 22 Mar 2017
    House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes said that President Donald Trump's
    personal communications may have been picked up by investigators
    through "incidental collection."

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    Devin Nunes: Trump Communications ‘Incidentally’ Collected By Intelligence
    Agencies | NBC News



    Published on 22 Mar 2017
    Devin Nunes, the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee tells press he has
    been notified that Trump team communications have been “incidentally,” legally
    collected. He also said more names involved in Trump campaign have been
    unmasked but none of the information was related to the Russia investigations.

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    President Donald Trump: I Feel 'Somewhat Vindicated' After Intel Chief's Briefing | MSNBC

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt5BdQ5hL2M

    Published on 22 Mar 2017
    President Trump says "I feel somewhat vindicated" after House Intel Chief Nunes
    discussed his findings regarding the president's claims the Obama administration
    wiretapped his office at Trump Tower.

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    Full 14min press conference release....

    Breaking - PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS WIRE TAPPED more of his Team Unmasked

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtEz57_KZGk

    Published on 22 Mar 2017

    House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes said Wednesday that President Donald
    Trump's personal communications may have been picked up by investigators
    through "incidental collection."

    Nunes said at a news conference he discovered the potential surveillance of Trump
    himself while reviewing intelligence reports, but said it was not related to Russia.
    "This is a normal, incidental collection, based on what I could collect," Nunes
    said. "This appears to be all legally collected foreign intelligence under" the Foreign
    Intelligence Surveillance Act.
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    "This is a normal, incidental collection, based on what I could collect," Nunes
    said.

    I love all the things we're supposed to consider normal today....

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    Rep. Castro on why Comey didn’t disclose Trump FBI investigation

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    Published on 22 Mar 2017
    Rep. Joaquin Castro, member of the House Intelligence Committee,
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    from his questioning of FBI Director James Comey and NSA Director
    Michael Rogers on the Hill on Monday. Couric asked Castro why Comey
    last year did not disclose the FBI's probe into Donald Trump's campaign
    but discussed Hillary Clinton’s investigation.

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    WIKILEAKS BREAKING NEWS: TRUMP SPIED ON BY OBAMA THROUGH
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    WH On Paul Manafort Report: President Trump Unaware Of His
    Decade-Old Clients | NBC News

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    Published on 22 Mar 2017
    White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer says it’s “a bit insane” to
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    former campaign manager Paul Manafort’s clients from a decade ago.

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    There are questions scattered though out about wire tapping
    among other topics......Though this press conference was given
    before Rep. Nunes briefed the President , he spoke to the press
    first which is posted above...

    FULL Sean Spicer White House Press Conference 3/22/17



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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Not a joking matter--what his exact words were is an important point, as the leak had a huge effect on women who were trying to decide who to vote for at the time.
    And it's possibly another indicator of just how permissive and perverted the elites have become, not to mention an indicator of what kind of man Trump really is.

    There have been other reports that Trump never actually said he engaged in crotch grabbing, but said that he has witnessed it often in elite circles.
    Does anyone know if the actual tape has been published, so it's possible to know first hand what he said?
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

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    And it's possibly another indicator of just how permissive and perverted the elites have become, not to mention an indicator of what kind of man Trump really is.
    I'd guess that many, if not most, alpha males have uttered a crass word, bragging to another male, sometime in their youth.

    There is a difference between what someone says in such moments, and what someone does, and until someone has entirely quite growing, there is a further difference between who they were, many years ago, and who they are now.

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    That may have been the case, but how long ago was that conversation held?
    Maybe I'm naive, but I would hope that an adult man in a position of such power and influence would have outgrown that kind of thing, and I think Trump was an adult man by then.
    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    And it's possibly another indicator of just how permissive and perverted the elites have become, not to mention an indicator of what kind of man Trump really is.
    I'd guess that many, if not most, alpha males have uttered a crass word, bragging to another male, sometime in their youth.

    There is a difference between what someone says in such moments, and what someone does, and until someone has entirely quite growing, there is a further difference between who they were, many years ago, and who they are now.
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Quote Not a joking matter--what his exact words were is an important point, as the leak
    had a huge effect on women who were trying to decide who to vote for at the time.
    And it's possibly another indicator of just how permissive and perverted the elites have
    become, not to mention an indicator of what kind of man Trump really is.
    I cannot answer your question ,I do understand it , reports say many important
    people and royalty swear and say crude things as also happens in both male
    and female environment's at certain times. I do not condone it but I don't think
    it will effect his tenure in the White House. As to your second point I have not
    come across anything yet. Though Hillary could be very abusive verbally to
    staff SS agents and Bill as has been written in a few books.


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    The Hoax Collapses: House Intel Chair Says Trump WAS Surveilled

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    Published on 22 Mar 2017
    House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes has discovered surveillance
    of Trump while reviewing intel reports. “I’m actually alarmed by it”, Nunes said.
    At the same time we learn that Malware was planted on Trump Towers computers
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    House Intel Chair: May have been "incidental collection" of Trump communications

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    In a surprise announcement Wed., House Intelligence Committee chairman Rep. Devin
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    Trump communications. CBSN's Reena Ninan and Vladimir Duthiers have the latest on the story.


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    Rep. Adam Schiff slams Rep. Devin Nunes' comments on Trump intel

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    NSA is cooperating...



    I threatened to take NSA offline to shut out the 16 agencies and many nations with unmonitored access into the system... Reminded them the phone system owned is controlled by foreigners...

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    It's certainly quite clear to anyone who is paying attention that many of the people in power are far from perfect, and these days it seems more and more like most of them are contemptible.
    I have no doubt at all that HRC is a monster--there's been too much proof to the contrary-- and I'm certainly not taking a side in the debate about Trump, but it concerns me that so many people are trying to portray him as such a wonderful, giving, heroic person.
    Perhaps he is compared to the likes of HRC, but that's really, really not saying much.
    Just like when Obama was being touted as the great new Deliverer, I fear that a letdown could be very demoralizing in time.
    I don't think many great, heroic people go into politics anymore--it's far too dirty a game, and takes up far too much of our attention, imho.
    But I am trying to keep an open mind about Trump that he is a fairly decent person who will do some good things--it's just that there is so much conflicting "evidence" and it's hard to know what to believe.
    And it's very, very sad when Avalon members jump on other member just because they are asking questions, and are not even asking from a pro or con position.
    The whole media scene is so sickening now, I'd like to be able to come here and find more maturity and less presumptuousness than that.

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    Quote Not a joking matter--what his exact words were is an important point, as the leak
    had a huge effect on women who were trying to decide who to vote for at the time.
    And it's possibly another indicator of just how permissive and perverted the elites have
    become, not to mention an indicator of what kind of man Trump really is.
    I cannot answer your question ,I do understand it , reports say many important
    people and royalty swear and say crude things as also happens in both male
    and female environment's at certain times. I do not condone it but I don't think
    it will effect his tenure in the White House. As to your second point I have not
    come across anything yet. Though Hillary could be very abusive verbally to
    staff SS agents and Bill as has been written in a few books.

    .
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

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    However unnecessarily crass or crude language is discouraged on this forum
    On further consideration, we decided to remove the post in question (and my subsequent quote thereof).

    Let's do what we can to maintain the high quality of our posts here. Thanks.

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I have no doubt at all that HRC is a monster--there's been too much proof to the contrary-- and I'm certainly not taking a side in the debate about Trump, but it concerns me that so many people are trying to portray him as such a wonderful, giving, heroic person

    Perhaps he is compared to the likes of HRC, but that's really, really not saying much.
    A fine understatement .

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    Trump has 'every right to know what’s going on’ – America’s Lawyer



    Published on 22 Mar 2017
    When it was discovered that members of President Trump’s team were illegally
    surveyed after his election victory, House Intelligence Committee Chairman
    Devin Nunes briefed Trump and insists that the findings have “nothing to do
    with Russia or the Russian investigation.” The findings shed new light on Trump’s
    wire-tapping claims accusing the prior administration of wire-tapping his campaign.
    House Democrats say Nunes’ decision to do so has compromised the investigation
    of Trump’s alleged Russian connection. “America’s Lawyer,” Mike Papantonio, joins
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    Revelations on alleged surveillance of the Trump campaign

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    BOMBSHELL: CIA Whistleblower Leaked Proof Trump Under "Systematic Illegal" Surveillance Over Two Years Ago: FBI Sat On It

    by ZeroPointNow
    Mar 22, 2017 10:37 PM

    The same day House Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes gave a press conference disclosing that President Trump had been under "incidental surveillance," Attorney and FreedomWatch Chairman, Larry Klayman, sent a letter to the House Committee on Intelligence imploring them to pursue the claims and evidence presented under oath at a Washington DC FBI Field Office by his client - CIA / NSA Whistleblower Dennis Montgomery - who Klayman claims "holds the keys to disproving the false claims... ...that there is no evidence that the president and his men were wiretapped"

    When Montgomery attempted to deliver this information through the appropriate channels two years ago, the former CIA and NSA contractor wasn't given the time of day:
    [W]hen Montgomery came forward as a whistleblower to congressional intelligence committees and various other congressmen and senators, including Senator Charles Grassley, Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, who, like Comey, once had a reputation for integrity, he was “blown off;” no one wanted to even hear what he had to say.
    As a result, Montgomery went to attorney and FreedomWatch founder Larry Klayman - who then approached the FBI:
    Under grants of immunity, which I obtained through Assistant U.S. Attorney Deborah Curtis, Montgomery produced the hard drives and later was interviewed under oath in a secure room at the FBI Field Office in the District of Columbia. There he laid out how persons like then-businessman Donald Trump were illegally spied upon by Clapper, Brennan, and the spy agencies of the Obama administration.
    Montgomery left the NSA and CIA with 47 hard drives and over 600 million pages of information, much of which is classified, and sought to come forward legally as a whistleblower to appropriate government entities, including congressional intelligence committees, to expose that the spy agencies were engaged for years in systematic illegal surveillance on prominent Americans, including the chief justice of the Supreme Court, other justices, 156 judges, prominent businessmen such as Donald Trump, and even yours truly. Working side by side with Obama's former Director of National Intelligence (DIA), James Clapper, and Obama's former Director of the CIA, John Brennan, Montgomery witnessed “up close and personal” this “Orwellian Big Brother” intrusion on privacy, likely for potential coercion, blackmail or other nefarious purposes.

    He even claimed that these spy agencies had manipulated voting in Florida during the 2008 presidential election, which illegal tampering resulted in helping Obama to win the White House.
    Given the fact that the FBI had Montgomery's testimony and evidence for over two years, Klayman traveled to Washington DC last Thursdayto meet with Committee Chairman Devin Nunes in the hopes that he would ask FBI Director Comey why the FBI hadn't pursued Montgomery's evidence. When Klayman arrived to speak with Nunes, he was "blown off" and instead shared his information with committee attorney Allen R. Souza - who Klayman requested in turn brief Nunes on the situation.
    During my meeting with House Intelligence Committee counsel Allen R. Sousa I politely warned him that if Chairman Nunes, who himself had that same day undercut President Trump by also claiming that there is no evidence of surveillance by the Obama administration, I would go public with what would appear to be the House Intelligence Committee’s complicity in keeping the truth from the American people and allowing the FBI to continue its apparent cover-up of the Montgomery “investigation.”

    And, that is where it stands today. The big question: will House Intelligence Committee Chairman Nunes do his job and hold FBI Director Comey’s feet to the fire about the Montgomery investigation?
    Klayman has detailed all of this in a NewsMax article, followed up with an official letter to Chairman Nunes today, requesting that he question Comey on Montgomery's evidence. Perhaps this explains Nunes' impromptu press conference today admitting that Trump's team was under "Incidental Surveillance" before making his way to the White House to discuss with the President.

    So - we know that evidence exists from a CIA / NSA contractor turned whistleblower, detailing a massive spy operation on 156 judges, the Supreme Court, and high profile Americans including Donald Trump. See the letter below:

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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    ‘Incidental surveillance’ on Trump team took place,
    was unrelated to Russia ‒ House Intel chair



    Published on 23 Mar 2017
    Between Election Day and the Inauguration, President-elect Donald Trump
    and his team were caught up in “incidental surveillance” that was unrelated
    to Russia, House Intelligence Committee Chair Devin Nunes has said.

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    Roger Stone Demands Official Response To Accusation Of Russian Ties

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=053LaIOcUIM

    Published on 22 Mar 2017
    Roger Stone demands that those who accuse him of Russian ties answer
    him and show him the proof they have of his Russian connections.

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    Did Nunes throw Trump a lifeline on surveillance?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-Jk4V_XL34

    Published on 22 Mar 2017
    Former House speaker shares his reaction on 'Hannity'
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    Default Re: Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone (4 March 2017)

    Sen. John McCain giving an interview in a parallel universe where MSNBC daily
    gives anti Trump news report. They Cannot believe Trump may have a point on
    anything.......McCain just really wants war with Russia at the end of the day.
    Failing that North Korea, Iran and even China if they do not do what we say.

    Considering his state is being hit worse by Obama care he does not know that
    much about and says " My governor tells me " Surely he should spend more
    time helping them than touting for war.....

    John McCain: Select Committee On Russia Now A ‘Requirement’



    Published on 23 Mar 2017

    “No longer does the Congress have credibility to handle this
    alone,” Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) tells Greta Van Susteren.

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    Comey stalling for time...

    Donald Trump and the Russians: Links? No Links? Depends On Whom You Ask |
    The New York Times

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a99g11vr5M

    Published on 23 Mar 2017
    James B. Comey, the director of the F.B.I., said the agency was investigating
    whether members of the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to influence the
    outcome of the 2016 presidential election. Republicans and Democrats put their
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