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    Default Re: False Flag Alien Threat To Frame The ETs As Enemies

    Quote Harley Hawkins-1. No, this was an unexpected screw-up. They would never intentionally do anything that would cause permanent damage to the planet. What good would that do them? Think about it! The false flag operation was Libya, which was contrived to create a "Wag The Dog" effect. In other words a false war to direct everyones' attention away from the far more serious truth. Do you think that it worked? Yes.
    Although the subject of this thread is extremely important and definitely worthy of attention, I am having great trouble thinking in terms of the attack on Japan being an unexpected screw-up. The growing circumstantial evidence leans far to the opposite end of this pendulum.

    Harley, are you serious when you state that, They would never intentionally do anything that would cause permanent damage to the planet? Every war, every attack, every false flag, every 9/11, every Viet Nam, every oil "spill", every Hiroshima/Nagasaki, every nuclear power plant, every sink hole, every stripped mountain top, every poisoned waterway, every decimated forest, every deep underground laboratory, every chemtrail, every GMO seed lot, every corporate pollution, every law protecting polluters...need I go on? Please explain from where your statement stems.
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    Default Re: False Flag Alien Threat To Frame The ETs As Enemies

    Logic,

    If real ET´s wanted us off this planet it could happen in a heart beat and without all this disclosire. If they did however there would be a reaction from OEA. Not favourable in the long term.

    Legend of the future past,

    Original contact was a warning , it went terribly wrong. Greed and Stupidity combined with Ego = Current Position.

    Control of our PTB through manipulation changed the tangent of our history. They are now in treaty with our Govts , the treaty has very strict guidelines of manipulation. Rule 1: They can do whatever they want as long as they warn us of it first. Disclosiure is the warning .

    If your real ET ancestors appeared you would know ... YOU WOULD JUST KNOW , no doubt, just a feeling that you know them , like you know your brother or your dog.

    If a moment of doubt or extacy comes over you ... run ! This is PTB sattelite control.

    Look at this video , most of this is Holographic .. get to know what it looks like, dont buy into the fear, just study it .. Several types of disclosiure IE PTB holographs 85 % approx and real Earth Ships 15% approx, released on CNN and Fox ( ptb control mech ) these have been released in the mainstream and alt media to gauge the reactions .. they are watching us watch them to see what gets the best reaction, what gets debunked etc. before they do something of this magnitute they MUST first do their homework. they have been doing their homework for many many years ..




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    Quote Harley Hawkins-1. No, this was an unexpected screw-up. They would never intentionally do anything that would cause permanent damage to the planet. What good would that do them? Think about it! The false flag operation was Libya, which was contrived to create a "Wag The Dog" effect. In other words a false war to direct everyones' attention away from the far more serious truth. Do you think that it worked? Yes.
    Although the subject of this thread is extremely important and definitely worthy of attention, I am having great trouble thinking in terms of the attack on Japan being an unexpected screw-up. The growing circumstantial evidence leans far to the opposite end of this pendulum.

    Harley, are you serious when you state that, They would never intentionally do anything that would cause permanent damage to the planet? Every war, every attack, every false flag, every 9/11, every Viet Nam, every oil "spill", every Hiroshima/Nagasaki, every nuclear power plant, every sink hole, every stripped mountain top, every poisoned waterway, every decimated forest, every deep underground laboratory, every chemtrail, every GMO seed lot, every corporate pollution, every law protecting polluters...need I go on? Please explain from where your statement stems.
    May i take a guess here and HH may be able to elaborate or correct me .

    The technology avail to ptb is thousands of years ahead of even our imagination. Using Logic i would say any or most harm to the planet can be reversed with their avail technology.

    Further down the burrow we go and with refrence to Project looking glass. I will make a bold statement here . There was a video on Camelot about a Dr who worked at S4 or 51 .. He states in this video interview by Kerry that the Project Looking Glass Technology was ¨Dismantled ¨ when he ( Dr ) stated this, his energy shifted and he was deeply ashamed of what he just said .. he was forcebly lying. Project Looking Glass is still in operation and is being used to read future natural events and then used to their advantage.

    Eg , lets say you want to force a country like Japan for instance, to give you more of a slice of their pie ... and they say no .. looking into the future and seeing a natural earth quake of say 4.5 going to hit on a particular day you can increase with the use of HRP tech .. you approach the country and warn them if they dont play nice they will cause a big mess ... If they say Yes its a 4.5 and they get advance warning to evacuate ¨important officials¨ etc .. no big deal .. if they say no they turn it up to a 9.2 and no warning when it will hit.

    This is how its being used .. IMO and in their OP.

    PS this happened in NZ .. they agreed and were warned prior to the event .. it was minimal as a result and the ¨important ¨people were evacuated, this is documented. see how it works now ?

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    Interesting video by HH from Michio Kaku, he IMO is a premier dis info specialist of a particular kind. IMO and in the OP of the OEA he is stating fact about what has already happened. He states that we will become type 1 in about 100 years ..but we are already there and have been for about 30 years.

    so what he states you can take as pretty accurate but its like he made this video in the 1860´s ... do you notice he dosent put a date on anything ? He knows a lot more than what he puts forward and is employed to manipulate the opinion of the general public IMO.

    See how he makes refrence to certain movies ? Star Wars in particular is presented as a non fictional review of a fictional event from the view point of a future AI from another galaxy.


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    Default Re: False Flag Alien Threat To Frame The ETs As Enemies

    there are already hostile ETs living on/in Earth, & doing a pretty good job of taking over -- i figure any kind of 'false flag' will be some spin the NWO guys & gals are playing out

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    Default Re: False Flag Alien Threat To Frame The ETs As Enemies

    Quote Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)
    Quote Posted by Snowbird (here)
    Although the subject of this thread is extremely important and definitely worthy of attention, I am having great trouble thinking in terms of the attack on Japan being an unexpected screw-up. The growing circumstantial evidence leans far to the opposite end of this pendulum.

    Harley, are you serious when you state that, They would never intentionally do anything that would cause permanent damage to the planet? Every war, every attack, every false flag, every 9/11, every Viet Nam, every oil "spill", every Hiroshima/Nagasaki, every nuclear power plant, every sink hole, every stripped mountain top, every poisoned waterway, every decimated forest, every deep underground laboratory, every chemtrail, every GMO seed lot, every corporate pollution, every law protecting polluters...need I go on? Please explain from where your statement stems.
    May i take a guess here and HH may be able to elaborate or correct me .

    The technology avail to ptb is thousands of years ahead of even our imagination. Using Logic i would say any or most harm to the planet can be reversed with their avail technology.
    Of course you can voice your opinion here. This is what helps to make this forum thrive.

    The probable and potential intended destruction of the Japan quake and tsunami, was to aid the Ring of Fire to split the earth. This is my opinion. If Japan itself, splits in half vertically and slides east into the Pacific, the resulting tsunami rushing toward the west coast of California, will be so massive as to destroy much of that state. This will in turn trigger the multiple earthquake faults that will most likely split California.

    Do you and others believe that the technology that is being held by these earthly creatures and being held from the world's people, can fix this? That is some kind of technology!
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    Default Re: False Flag Alien Threat To Frame The ETs As Enemies

    Snow i really believe there is a plan in action in Japan. Now did they started all this or "Never leave a good disaster go to waste" i dont know... but i am sure we will find out ... soon.

    Check this also and tell me that you dont get the feeling that SOMETHING is on the move. Russia takes real action to counter space threats - Why now? Is it just a coincidence? "Russia is expected to finish the establishment of air and space defense troops." space defense hehe ...

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    there are already hostile ETs living on/in Earth, & doing a pretty good job of taking over -- i figure any kind of 'false flag' will be some spin the NWO guys & gals are playing out
    Well as far as the ET´s already here being hostile id like to present another point of view. There are good guys and not so good guys ,we have ancestors that care very much for us and are probably the reason why we havent choked ourselves on our own rope yet.

    Its safe to say we have been living symbiotically with ET races here on earth for thousands of years. They believe this to be their planet yet we are allowed to perpetuate and live here without much incident until things took a turn for the worse. The turn was made from Humanoid Species , not ET imo.
    ET Species have absolutely no interest in money or power ... they have an abundance of everything they need. They are in it for the Experiment .. for experiemts to conclude they MUST be left to gestate without influence.

    Do the ET´s like us ... No .. they think we are a sub species, yet they let us live without incident. Do they eat us ? maybe, but i doubt its a significant number .. do we eat their relatives and other species they created ? yeah .. every day. Maybe why they find us crude ?

    Most abductions are carried out by EBE/Humanoid experimental craft. ET´s do not need to know our biology .. they helped create it .. why do they need to reverse engineer what they made ?

    Rambling again sorry .. I have to say im enjoying the debate and learning from you all Thank you !

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    Quote Posted by Etherios (here)
    Snow i really believe there is a plan in action in Japan. Now did they started all this or "Never leave a good disaster go to waste" i dont know... but i am sure we will find out ... soon.

    Check this also and tell me that you dont get the feeling that SOMETHING is on the move. Russia takes real action to counter space threats - Why now? Is it just a coincidence? "Russia is expected to finish the establishment of air and space defense troops." space defense hehe ...
    Where the world governments are concerned Etherios, there are far more bad-guys than good-guys. The Russian government is very much into the New World Order arena and will do whatever necessary to go with this flow.

    One has to wonder what is the Real purpose of these space defense troops. Who and what are they defending? If they think that real alien invasion will be thwarted by their puny defense system, I think they are delusional. However, if this is indeed all for show, they may be able to convince a few million citizens that this is needed.

    It always saddens me to see governments, such as the U.S., going to such ridiculous extremes simply for show and profit and control.
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    Snowbird ,

    I would guess that any Weaponisation of space is an NWO tactic. As you stated any weapon tech we have would be useless in reality against them.

    More excuses to syphon funds + more ways to add to fear = control.

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    Quote Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)
    Quote Posted by wynderer (here)
    there are already hostile ETs living on/in Earth, & doing a pretty good job of taking over -- i figure any kind of 'false flag' will be some spin the NWO guys & gals are playing out
    Well as far as the ET´s already here being hostile id like to present another point of view. There are good guys and not so good guys ,we have ancestors that care very much for us and are probably the reason why we havent choked ourselves on our own rope yet.

    Its safe to say we have been living symbiotically with ET races here on earth for thousands of years. They believe this to be their planet yet we are allowed to perpetuate and live here without much incident until things took a turn for the worse. The turn was made from Humanoid Species , not ET imo.
    ET Species have absolutely no interest in money or power ... they have an abundance of everything they need. They are in it for the Experiment .. for experiemts to conclude they MUST be left to gestate without influence.

    Do the ET´s like us ... No .. they think we are a sub species, yet they let us live without incident. Do they eat us ? maybe, but i doubt its a significant number .. do we eat their relatives and other species they created ? yeah .. every day. Maybe why they find us crude ?

    Most abductions are carried out by EBE/Humanoid experimental craft. ET´s do not need to know our biology .. they helped create it .. why do they need to reverse engineer what they made ?

    Rambling again sorry .. I have to say im enjoying the debate and learning from you all Thank you !

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    thanks for responding, Nanoo Nanoo -- i don't agree w/you, however -- as i see it, there are quite a few ET groups here on [or above or within] Earth, flagrantly violating Universal Laws & walking all over the free will of Earth Humans -- i call these the NWO ETs -- right now this planet is ruled by the NWO, & i believe it is dangerous for benevolent ETs to approach the planet &/or incarnate here, tho some do

    i think we are all learning from each other

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    Here is imo one of the most important pieces of information i think i can give out.

    ¨Consent ¨ Nwo cannot do anything without our consent .. we are letting them do everything they do so therefore we are giving them consent in the eyes of treaty holders and ET races.

    thats the caveat.

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    Default Re: False Flag Alien Threat To Frame The ETs As Enemies

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    There is one more possibility that I'd like to mention. Has anyone gave much real thought as to why the last Space Shuttle mission marking the end of the Space Shuttle Program has been delayed so many times and for so long? Sure, I know there are sometimes delays. But for six months or more? Also does everyone know who canceled the Space Shuttle Program? No it was NOT Obama. It was Bush! The Shuttle System was conceived exclusively for the building and servicing of the I.S.S., so basically what this means is the end of the shuttles marks the completion and any major servicing of the station. In other words It Is In-Place. Also, wouldn't that be a tremendous “effect” for everyone to see the final shuttle “Shot Down” while on landing approach, say over L.A.?
    "Further delay to Nasa's final Endeavour shuttle mission"

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13244053

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    Default Re: False Flag Alien Threat To Frame The ETs As Enemies

    This is a great video Perhaps Mods Merge these ?

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...772#post248772

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    With respect to my dear friend Harley Hawkins that started this thread.

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    Default Re: False Flag Alien Threat To Frame The ETs As Enemies

    The title of this thread "False Flag Alien Threat To Frame The ETs As Enemies" should probably remain unchanged, since I created this thread upon Bill's request.

    However, I see no reason "The Orion Conspiracy" thread http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...772#post248772
    could not be merged here since it is a (possibly fictional?) account of the history leading-up to the conception of the False Flag Alien Threat scenario.

    I'll leave that up to Bill/The Mods.

    Thanks again Nanoo!



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    Quote Posted by latte (here)
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    I think that the system we are UNDER is binary. It is not necessarily the same system they use out there, in other places of space. In order to see what is in the skies you have to de cloak the binary system of which we are under.
    Interesting. Never thought of it as a binary system; you may be on to something. We do tend to think of life and systems in binary terms, even computers run under a binary system.

    Occasionally people photograph a landscape or other casual scene only to find an anomaly such as a UFO of some sort, sometimes quite clear, when they see the picture.

    And, saw this clip this morning: http://="http://www.coolestone.com/m...payers-Money/"

    Itʻs meant to be a joke but it may be something more than that.

    BTW, Kissinger said last week or so that Egypt was only the beginning for the middle east, that other countries would be rising up too -- which we have heard well before this. Weʻve been notified.

    Binary systems are much easier to project holographically due to the nature of its technology. Projections, holograms, solid mass formation in binary is easier to manipulate. Or give the impression of something thats not really there.

    Very interesting thing that happens to me somethimes when i meditate. I open my eyes and anything thats a projection becomes bi focal or i,see it in pairs as i sepperate brain hemispheres. I see 2 of everything when i watch tv inmthis state. Now the interesting thing to note is i went outside during the lat full moon and meditated looking at the sky and guess what, i saw 2 of everything. Moon stars all had a twin beside it, more interesting again when i saw a plane fly over head it was singular ie just one plane not two as you would assume. When i look back to the ground everything is singular, look back to the skymthere is two of everything.

    The ramafications of what this might mean is doing my head in :-) hmmm vely vely interesting

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    thanks to Vivek for this video, posted in Houman's Archon thread -- it's long, but well worth the watching, imo, especially as it relates to the false flag invasion --


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    Default Re: False Flag Alien Threat To Frame The ETs As Enemies

    Well, this would be a good test for "Tolec from Dakote". Tolec has said the ET false flag invasion has been avoided. I believe it has been avoided as well.

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    Quote Posted by UnrealDreams (here)
    Well, this would be a good test for "Tolec from Dakote". Tolec has said the ET false flag invasion has been avoided. I believe it has been avoided as well.
    I tend to agree, however knowingmhow they work, its just been delayed for another 20 years. The delay was, in part because of this thread and similar ones inspired by it. We had to shift the time line by spoilingmthe surprise.

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    Default Re: False Flag Alien Threat To Frame The ETs As Enemies

    is Tolec one of those channeled dudes?

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