The Vielight intranasal laser: kickstarting the pineal gland?

[Olaf]

Abilities of the pineal gland

I couldn't resist to post these two videos. Both videos show children that have developed the ability to see with their third eye while being blindfolded.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZtLkzg8bFgA

"Yogamaatha claims that she attended a course at Gurukul, in India, where she was initiated by a guru and now possesses the unique ability to see with her third eye. She states that this mystical power is a “learned ability”, opposing those who believe that gifts like these, are only for the chosen few."

I was even more stunned by the next video. A woman in GB teaches children to see with their third eye.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rC7xZmLcOeY

source:
http://thespiritscience.net/2015/10/...her-third-eye/
http://sitsshow.blogspot.de/2017/03/...third-eye.html

[Noelle]

Posted by Olaf (here)
Abilities of the pineal gland

I couldn't resist to post these two videos. Both videos show children that have developed the ability to see with their third eye while being blindfolded.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZtLkzg8bFgA

"Yogamaatha claims that she attended a course at Gurukul, in India, where she was initiated by a guru and now possesses the unique ability to see with her third eye. She states that this mystical power is a “learned ability”, opposing those who believe that gifts like these, are only for the chosen few."

I was even more stunned by the next video. A woman in GB teaches children to see with their third eye.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rC7xZmLcOeY

source:
http://thespiritscience.net/2015/10/...her-third-eye/
http://sitsshow.blogspot.de/2017/03/...third-eye.html

The little girl in the first video is right. We can all do this. I have done it while laying down to go to sleep or take a nap. With my eyes closed and in a relaxed state, I can see the fibers in the couch or the pillow (whatever I am laying on) and my hand or fingers moving.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
A related question the researchers may have addressed is:
How long does it take the body to recover balance if the Vielight has been used too frequently?

I don't know. My personal uneducated guess is that each person's optimum protocols may vary. I have some personal empirical evidence now that apparently over-frequent use causes the new abilities (or distinct new phenomena) to start to fall off the other side of the bell curve, so to speak, and then become less active again. There'll be an optimum level, it seems, and that may need to be discovered individually.

So, I'm re-calibrating my own use, reducing it now to once a day to start with. ('Once' = 25 minutes each nostril, back-to back.) I'll let that settle down for maybe a week, and then I'll increase it again from there.

Currently, my 'future memories', which were surprising, fascinating, vivid and frequent at first, have become more sporadic now. It's like a 'flattening-off' effect.

But something else is happening, I think, which is far harder to describe. It feels like an expanded awareness, but that's REALLY hard to put into words... though I can try, if anyone's interested. I have no idea how to measure that, of course — or even show to myself or anyone else that's it's real. It's extremely non-specific, more related to a feeling of emotional and spiritual well-being in general.

It feels as if something's growing and expanding. Some attitudes and habitual thoughts seem to be changing... that's the best one-sentence summary I can offer at the moment.

[Noelle]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
A related question the researchers may have addressed is:
How long does it take the body to recover balance if the Vielight has been used too frequently?

I don't know. My personal uneducated guess is that each person's optimum protocols may vary. I have some personal empirical evidence now that apparently over-frequent use causes the new abilities (or distinct new phenomena) to start to fall off the other side of the bell curve, so to speak, and then become less active again. There'll be an optimum level, it seems, and that may need to be discovered individually.

So, I'm re-calibrating my own use, reducing it now to once a day to start with. ('Once' = 25 minutes each nostril, back-to back.) I'll let that settle down for maybe a week, and then I'll increase it again from there.

Currently, my 'future memories', which were surprising, fascinating, vivid and frequent at first, have become more sporadic now. It's like a 'flattening-off' effect.

But something else is happening, I think, which is far harder to describe. It feels like an expanded awareness, but that's REALLY hard to put into words... though I can try, if anyone's interested. I have no idea how to measure that, of course — or even show to myself or anyone else that's it's real. It's extremely non-specific, more related to a feeling of emotional and spiritual well-being in general.

It feels as if something's growing and expanding. Some attitudes and habitual thoughts seem to be changing... that's the best one-sentence summary I can offer at the moment.

I'm interested! Maybe in time and after experiencing more, more words to describe it will come to you. Then, again, often there just are not any words to describe perceptions and feelings in expanded states. Do you keep a journal? Recording every little thing may help.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I may be getting some relief for headaches, coincident with using the 655 Prime. I am now on day #3. I typically use the device when I meditate twice daily.

Headaches are usually very rare for me, but something changed about a month ago with headaches showing up every day. A CT scan was normal. MMS and Ibuprofen have been working.

Prior to using the 655 Prime, I heard (in my head) the word "encephalitis" and needed to look up the definition.

Maybe a different device would be helpful if encephalitis is causing the headaches.

On day #3, I'm still waiting for an increase of intuitive clarity and ability.

[mgray]

Not knowing too much on this treatment and its benefits, it feels like an endorsement from Bill on the product.p

I hope this unpaid commercial works out fine for everyone.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by mgray (here)
Not knowing too much on this treatment and its benefits, it feels like an endorsement from Bill on the product.

It kind of turned out that way! But I was never asked by anyone to start the thread. I was fascinated by my own experiences, and had what felt like a pretty interesting personal story to share.

If you read the whole thing, I didn't even know that others had reported elsewhere that the device had a pineal stimulation/ activation effect. (Silvana Spano confirmed that herself, later, so that was all new to me.)

What happened was that after starting the thread, describing some of what I'd experienced, I dropped a note to Patrick and Silvana, because I wanted them to read about my strong suspicion that this was a pineal activator.

I thought maybe they had no idea about that. They'd never said anything about that to me themselves, and I'd not seen them to tell them personally. So I just did that by asking them to take a look at the thread.

They then got back to me to ask me to please let members know they could ship the device to the US, because it wasn't available elsewhere. I invited them to join the forum, so they could post for themselves and answer questions, but before they did that they asked me to please post their discount offer to Avalonians.

I've never done that before (other than with Carol Clarke, who I also endorse). I really do think this thing is something quite special, so I was quite happy to do that.

[Mike]

Any cardiovascular benefits?

I wonder if the laser could be directed at the heart, for example? And what would happen if it was?

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Posted by Mike (here)
Any cardiovascular benefits?

I wonder if the laser could be directed at heart, for example? And what would happen if it was?

Found an interesting Youtube video Vielight Pocket Miracle that expands the usefulness of this technology.

I was wondering about the possibility of treating erectile dysfunction but I do not want to derail this thread or disturb anyone who may be sensitive to such issues.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GejVvHXnkWw

[Charles Harris]

Posted by Mike (here)
Any cardiovascular benefits?

I wonder if the laser could be directed at the heart, for example? And what would happen if it was?

As I understand it, there is no need to directly treat the heart. "Adjutant therapy to lower blood viscosity,reduce blood fat and cardiovascular disease."

[Ron Mauer Sr]

My results so far.
Baseline: Data averaged from 01Jan17 to 27Mar17.
Vielight: Data averaged from 27Mar17 to now.

Blood pressure Oxygen saturation
Baseline 139/71 95%
Vielight 138/69 95%

I have not yet noticed any changes in intuitive ability.
Headaches have become less. (Swing dancing last night, tonight and tomorrow)

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
Oxygen saturation

Ron, the way to measure oxygen saturation (using a fingertip oximeter) isn't just to clip it on and see what the reading is. You take three deep breaths, and then see where it peaks.

When you do that, there's a time lag on the peak value. That could be as much as 20-25 seconds — the time taken for the oxygen-enriched blood to reach your fingertips from the lungs. First the reading will drop a little, and will then gradually climb. It should peak right up at 98-99%, maybe even 100% (for a young person in good shape at sea level).

The importance of testing that way is that it measures what you body's doing under load (e.g. when swing dancing ). It's a little like comparing your car engine's potential power when it's sitting there just idling, or at high revs climbing a hill or pulling a trailer. It's the latter that counts.

My own oximeter reading also bases at 95%, and then pre-Vielight peaked at 98%. It still bases at 95% (that's unchanged), but from the very first day of using the Vielight for me it's always peaked at 99%. I live at 9,000 ft (that's almost the same as swing dancing even when I'm just sitting at my desk!), so that's really not too bad.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
Oxygen saturation

Ron, the way to measure oxygen saturation (using a fingertip oximeter) isn't just to clip it on and see what the reading is. You take three deep breaths, and then see where it peaks.

When you do that, there's a time lag on the peak value. That could be as much as 20-25 seconds — the time taken for the oxygen-enriched blood to reach your fingertips from the lungs. First the reading will drop a little, and will then gradually climb. It should peak right up at 98-99%, maybe even 100% (for a young person in good shape at sea level).

The importance of testing that way is that it measures what you body's doing under load (e.g. when swing dancing ). It's a little like comparing your car engine's potential power when it's sitting there just idling, or at high revs climbing a hill or pulling a trailer. It's the latter that counts.

My own oximeter reading also bases at 95%, and then pre-Vielight peaked at 98%. It still bases at 95% (that's unchanged), but from the very first day of using the Vielight for me it's always peaked at 99%. I live at 9,000 ft (that's almost the same as swing dancing even when I'm just sitting at my desk!), so that's really not too bad.

Yes, using your method my number goes from 95% to 98%. Better than I expected for an old man.

[Fellow Aspirant]

Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
My results so far.
Baseline: Data averaged from 01Jan17 to 27Mar17.
Vielight: Data averaged from 27Mar17 to now.

Blood pressure Oxygen saturation
Baseline 139/71 95%
Vielight 138/69 95%

I have not yet noticed any changes in intuitive ability.
Headaches have become less. (Swing dancing last night, tonight and tomorrow)

So, swing dancing is a side effect? Count me in!

Brian

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I shared my Vielight 655 Prime with my friend Helen today, her first use. She reported a feeling of well being and said she liked it.

update

Helen asked me to order one for her. 10% discount from retail. While on the phone with her today she said that she felt significantly more energy this morning, maybe associated with the one laser treatment yesterday.

Silvana sent me an email that may be important to older users:

"Tell Helen she can use it twice a day (e.g., in bed first thing in the morning... and one more time, not too
late in the day in case it gives her too much energy)."

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Today is day #8 using the Vielight 655 Prime.

I have not yet noticed any change in intuitive ability or physical energy. My headache is slowly diminishing, perhaps causally related to the Vielight.

Not sure what changes to expect. Whatever changes occur may take longer for a 74 year old former Marine with Reptilian DNA who questions everything. But a big heart may negate some of that influence. :-)

[Flash]

Just got my vielight from Toronto in the mail today. The packaging is nice and professionally done, hopefully it will be the same with the engineering and the results.

I bought the expensive one with headset because of my daughter who still has some light neurological motor skills problems and light dysphasia, and I thought this is a chance that it could be helpful to her too by enhancing and increasing her motor skills neurons in quantity and connections amongst other potential results.

And it could be useful for my aging brain as well (although working full time in a College has done wonders to quickstart it again - (sometimes I am wondering how those who started average manage old age brain abilities (or inabilities) because the decrease in capacities is fast, yet I am deemed normal).

I will report changes and experiences as they come.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Flash (here)
I bought the expensive one with headset

... which one did you get?

[Flash]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Flash (here)
I bought the expensive one with headset

... which one did you get?

a Neuro Alpha, the other one, Neuro Gamma, was going to be sent only for Azheilmer and with a confirmation of Azheilmer from a doctor, which is not my case at all for the moment. But I retain this knowledge in case someone in my family get Azheilmer - which is yet unseen on both side of the family. If it were the case, I would have jumped on the opportunity to buy the strong stuff.

Thinking of it, it makes me feel a bit into transhumanism, but the right way of using those apparatus.

Why Bill, do you know anything about those more expensive ones? (I wish I would have had the one 40X more powerful for Azheilmer)

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Flash (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Flash (here)
I bought the expensive one with headset

... which one did you get?

a Neuro Alpha, the other one, Neuro Gamma, was going to be sent only for Azheilmer and with a confirmation of Azheilmer from a doctor, which is not my case at all for the moment. But I retain this knowledge in case someone in my family get Azheilmer - which is yet unseen on both side of the family. If it were the case, I would have jumped on the opportunity to buy the strong stuff.

Thinking of it, it makes me feel a bit into transhumanism, but the right way of using those apparatus.

Why Bill, do you know anything about those more expensive ones? (I wish I would have had the one 40X more powerful for Azheilmer)

I don't know anything from personal experience, but I've heard that the Gamma (which is very new) is creating some miracle results that are astounding the researchers. It seems to do quite astonishing things to help Alzheimer's sufferers, and appears to dissolve away the accumulated amyloid plaque that's pretty much established now as the biochemical cause of the condition.

But there's another hypothesis, which is untested: that the Gamma device induces a Gamma meditative state in the wearer (also newly identified), which might then simply be enabling the patient to heal themselves... maybe of anything at all.

It might actually be a consciousness boosting device... and that's quite something. All the Vielights seem to do that, in one way or another.

The trials, which were really successful, have only been done so far with Alzheimer's patients, because that was the design intention. But it'd be fascinating to see what it might do for (say) people with diabetes, or rheumatoid arthritis. If those are alleviated, too, then we have a kind of magic healing device that people could wear for 20 mins a day, and that really would be something out of science fiction.