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    Default Re: Leftist BBC gives air time to man who raped his 8 year old daughters

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    Left right, left right.

    As many have already pointed out notions of left and right vary greatly depending on the part of the world you live in.

    As a Canadian I tend to label myself as being on the left because I believe in what I would describe as collectivist ideas. Some Americans I realize would see my beliefs as Socialist or even Marxist. This makes me laugh however as I do believe in individual rights and freedoms, property ownership and most capitalist ideals. I don't want big government and a lot of legislation, who does? However, trickle down economics doesn't seem to adhere to conventional forms of gravity, because I don't see it trickling down. Unfortunately most people who are wealthy only want to be more wealthy. Yes, many people have worked very hard for their wealth, but countless people work hard and are not wealthy.

    I think the government should through taxation ensure that all people have fair and equal access to water, food, shelter, healthcare and education. If we still want to pretend in the west that everyone has the same opportunities it's the least we can do. Given the trillions of dollars that are spent on wars annually (financed by "right wing" and "left wing" governments across the planet) we certainly have the money to do all of these things if people truly wanted it to happen.

    If it's wrong to be on the left or believe in wealth redistribution or free health care or free education, than I will happily die "wrong" but be at peace with my soul.
    I found this website that appears to be geared towards 'educating' American students about what the labels "liberal" and "conservative" generally mean here.

    https://www.studentnewsdaily.com/con...beral-beliefs/

    I wonder how many of us agree with this assessment of each side's position on various issues and/or would cross the aisle (so to speak) on many of these positions -- I know I would. I too have always believed there should be a governmental safety net of some sort for those in need, and absolutely still believe that all people are entitled to clean food, clean water, safe and clean shelter, healthcare, and education. But since waking up to 9-11, I also don't trust the U.S. government anymore, so I no longer have the classic 'liberal' ideology (as defined by this student aimed website).

    But I have always thought of Republicans as greedy white men who want to increase military spending, cut social programs for the needy, impose their own (often feigned) Christian beliefs on the rest of the world, and keep government out of everything except when it comes to a woman's right to control her own body. But funny how awakening to the larger agenda messes with one's former beliefs and makes one realize how we've been purposely divided and propagandized on both sides.

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    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/03/...t-isnt-biased/ Well written piece in my favorite journal.

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    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/03/...t-isnt-biased/ Well written piece in my favorite journal.
    That was a good read for a guy who hates long reads. Only stating the obvious but doing it so poetically.

    On bias in the media, especially the Beeb. As a general rule of thumb, if they do a feature presenting two sides to an issue, the side they present first is the side they want to bury under the side they follow it up with.

    So, it usually goes like this. Announce the issue with a mildly provocative and attention grabbing intro. Then present the side of the story the attention grabbing intro announces. Then move on to the counter view point, and eventually put the whole thing to bed and kiss the babies good night
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    Galloway gets his left and right mixed up quite often but otherwise he punches back at the Beeb pretty well:

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    Default Re: Leftist BBC gives air time to man who raped his 8 year old daughters

    Talk about weird just another strange coincidence BBC do seem to bring the worst out in beings .... Sonic signals can upset/hurt dogs. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...e-bull-terrier
    Sympathy to the victims family.

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