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    The first requirement for stepping outside the dialectic or stepping outside the Panopticon (the intoxicating illusory world created by media, etc) is to realize the fundamental nature of this particular illusion, i.e. that it is a deliberate creation, an exemplar of social engineering par excellence. The reach and scope of the illusion is vast and truly astonishing when you begin to be aware of it. And the particular illusory bubble that people exist in within what is known as the USA has very distinctive features. Let me remark here that all social constructs could be considered to be, to varying extents, similar bubbles, but few in history have such a remarkable self-reinforcing, integrated structure. This particular bubble has all the hallmarks of the Hegelian dialectic, and being deliberately created for a particular purpose. I will not spend too much time with the interconnections between the Founding Fathers and this Philosophical System other than to say that Adam Weishopf who is considered to be the modern founder-of Masonism - it would be more correct to say one who again surfaced the tenants of Masonism - and his theories were very well known to the Founding Fathers, in fact George Washington was a Mason. There are compelling historic and intellectual connections between Masonic thought and the Hegelian Dialectic. Anyway, I digress - with respect to stepping outside the box, the first step is to become aware that you are in a box or special environment. It is very difficult for fish to know that they are in the water because their being is so utterly integrated into their environment, for example - but anyone who has pulled a fish out of the water knows that even fish have expressions because one can see that they certainly look shocked when removed from their environment. I warn you that stepping outside even an unpleasant environment is a shock, but in this case it must be done!

    Stepping outside the Panopticon and the dialectic involves simply, once one recognizes the key features, removing one's consent from a system that depends upon our full participation and consent in order to exist! Without our consent and full participation it ceases to exist for us personally - if the collective WE withdrew consent, it would utterly fall and a new human reality would come into being.

    Simple examples of removal of consent - do not participate in any systems that support the Illusion, or reduce such participation to a minimum always maintaining awareness of what it is that you are doing: 1.) reduce to an absolute minimum mindless "consumerism" - human beings are not, contrary to propaganda - "Consumers." Someone would like us to believe we are and reinforcement of that illusion is essential to the control paradigm. 2.) turn off the TV. TV is the main conduit of propaganda and social control/thought and impulse entrainment. 3.) begin to understand that the entire world around you actually reflects what you think, do, and say; rearrange thoughts, actions and words accordingly. 4.) begin to think deeply about the fact that personal ethos is the foundation of a meaningful human life - analyze and assess and make adjustments accordingly 5.) when impulses and feelings arise that serve only to cause dissension, conflict, alienation and hatred amongst human beings STOP and reassess. Do NOT engage in destructive patterns unless one's very life is in danger, and then - take action with deliberate, conscious, razor-like precision. Conscious and deliberate action NOT mere visceral reaction, is the high road to human development. Mere reaction entraps once more in the Control Paradigm. 6.) Withdraw support of any kind from the existing paradigm once its features and players are clearly recognized, and this includes money, time, energy, and participation........................the existing paradigm is a parasite and relies totally for its existence upon the participation, wittingly or not, of the majority of humans. Once the participation ceases, the current destructive paradigm FALLS. This essentially describes what I am doing differently, how I am thinking differently and I believe more people are acting and thinking in this way.

    As for voting - sadly, and I do not mean to rub this in - you can see with your own eyes that you may have voted and your "candidate" may have "won" - but is anything any different? What does common sense tell you? The problem is not within you - the problem lies in the false reality which only continues to exist to the extent that you give it your lifeblood and energy. Not voting IS an option - and may be a moral and intellectual obligation when the false alternatives presented are harmful to you, me - and everyone.

    With best wishes for an AWAKE AND AWARE New Year, take heart loved ones, together we can make a difference!
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    I would be VERY INTERESTED in anyone's views on this important subject!!!

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    My first thought, is that I wish that I could click the "thanks" button more than once.

    Sage advice. Let's see if I have the essentials of your post: Stop buying all but bare necessities (check). Stop taking part in situations that contract your paradigm (check), stop playing the game (check). Go to the sidelines and sit down and start rearranging your reality as you would have it (working on it).???

    I have been one who wants to take action, but I am realizing that by "opting out" we are taking action. I am also starting to see glimpses of the other layers of the game. Its a bit daunting.

    Wise words about voting. I didn't vote for the first time this past November. The results would have been the same, so validating a corrupt process allows that process to thrive.

    Well said Ahkenaten!

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    My first thought, is that I wish that I could click the "thanks" button more than once.

    Sage advice. Let's see if I have the essentials of your post: Stop buying all but bare necessities (check). Stop taking part in situations that contract your paradigm (check), stop playing the game (check). Go to the sidelines and sit down and start rearranging your reality as you would have it (working on it).???

    I have been one who wants to take action, but I am realizing that by "opting out" we are taking action. I am also starting to see glimpses of the other layers of the game. Its a bit daunting.

    Wise words about voting. I didn't vote for the first time this past November. The results would have been the same, so validating a corrupt process allows that process to thrive.

    Well said Ahkenaten!
    Thank you Banshee! Some of us really see the need at this time to move the ball forward on the court, so to speak. My personal belief is that the profound subject of withdrawal of consent is at the root of our present dilemma.....................and withdrawal of consent is a dynamic form of action. Non-participation IS a viable option, and moreover, serves the exalted purpose of taking us OUT of the control paradigm, placing us in a position of NON PARTICIPANT....................................... ..we can observe from this position and create OTHER options outside the bubble. Again, I am with you in body and spirit.

    I continue to believe there are VERY positive developments going on, not the least of which is the utter panic and disarray the people engaged in the Control Paradigm are exhibiting. That shows they AND their social model IS VULNERABLE and that they FEEL THREATENED. Take heart, therefor, we are powerful as individuals and collectively.

    WE MUST WAKE UP to who and what we are if there is to be any hope for us, our children, our grandchildren and all of our Descendents.

    Let us do this one thing in remembrance of all the hardships and sacrifices made by all of our ancestors from the caves forward. Let their experiences, our collective wisdom, and all their lives MEAN SOMETHING.

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    I like what you have said very much Ahkenaten,

    I voted because I did not want them to think they had made us apathetic. It was a funny choice for me to vote, and when I reviewed my votes, I saw that I had voted for almost half of each party based on what the candidates said. I have not, nor will I bother to see what they actually did with this.

    I am inclined to agree with Jefferson that we should live our lives in peace our own way and only have a very little bit of organization.
    I have called this "organized anarchy" since I thought up the term in the 70's.
    I still like the term and concept, but I also (still) do not think americans are ready.
    But, this is what you are talking about, and maybe no americans or hardly anyone else for that matter, will be ready because it is so difficult to get out of the box.

    I read a book called "Abduction to the 9th planet" where the aliens wanted to suggest to us through this man that the best way to "win" this tyranny is to stop going to work.
    Everything will stop and eventually the entire system will crash.
    It means doctors and police and everybody must not go to work.
    Then we could all live on a permanent vacation being self sufficient.

    It would take a lot of courage for most people to stop working, but I think this is a good idea in that it would probably be successful.

    Good thread.
    Thank you,

    jeanna

    I think I will return to fred's webpage and download all those early american papers (thanks fred!)

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    Hi Jeannacav - thanks for your thoughtful comments. Concerning the issue of non-participation, actually though it is not well known, NON-PARTICIPATION has historically occupied a very important position in the USA, going back to the New England Town Meetings. So it really isn't a new or radical concept, ONLY insofar as a majority takes this up as a common theme and practice - which would truly be radical. As for people not going to work - well, that decision might well be taken away from us by events on the ground, so to speak, if the economic system crashes..............and it may well do that. I personally would not urge people to stop going to work...................we all need to live, but a radical shift in perspective on the part of the majority of human beings that reflects itself in genuinely new and often subtle ways of thinking, speaking and behaving in the world would have as revolutionary an effect as stopping going to work without the extreme turbulence.

    Kind of like unplugging the TV instead of kicking in the screen and throwing the danged thing out the window!!!

    READ THE FEDERALIST PAPERS!!!!

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    It seems that non-participation needs to be covered.
    Otherwise it appears to be apathy.

    Do you have suggestions?
    I like the 'flash mob' concept, for instance, you know, something like an artistic statement along with the message "we are NOT participating".

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    BTW, the reason I do NOT believe the economy will ever crash is that it is a necessary tool for those who are controlling.
    The threat of economic collapse is a great way to create fear which then can be used, but to actually destroy the tool?
    I do not think it will actually happen.

    [yes, federalist papers! ]

    thanks,

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    The Flash Mob concept has incredible power thanks to the internet...................check it out..............apparently 5,000 people showed up at the Galleria in Roseville CA last night for one of those Hallelujah Chorus scenes and the balcony around the food court started cracking and popping and the floors started swaying leading the Mall to dispatch security guards to escort people out of the Mall because the structure might be compromised!! So, that is one unintended consequence of mass action (also called 'BLOW BACK') that we must be concerned about...........................even so, point well taken......Flash Mobs can be very powerful! Let me ponder this further!!

    see this article on what happened last night in Roseville

    http://www.kcra.com/news/26200981/de...tml?source=SAC

    I think that non-participation being characterized as apathy is similar to the way western society characterizes eastern spirituality as "passive" - that is WaY WAY too simplistic and doesn't adequately capture the differences.

    I agree with you that TPTB cannot pull down all the pillars of the temple, in particular the economic pillar OR the communications grid/network because they depend upon those two hollow pillars (Jochin and Boaz) for continuing their control paradigm as well as for their very survival. Any false flag operation could probably be identified by the fact that those two key pillars or significant parts of them, would be intact.

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    I agree with most of what is said..except I believe you SHOULD play the game. BUT.... The problem with the game so far is that all the moves are pretty much made for you nowadays. You've got to start PLAYING the game - making your own moves - and be strong. Because if you PLAY the game, you'll get yourself "in trouble", you'll be ostracised, you'll be ridiculed...you name it. Be strong. Don't stop playing. Be a shining beacon of light for those around you, because eventually they'll start to wake up too - and then you'll be setting an example for them. But most of all - BE STRONG! You are doing the right thing! You are a wayshower, the first wave of a growing movement.

    BE STRONG.

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    Quote Posted by jeannacav (here)
    II read a book called "Abduction to the 9th planet" where the aliens wanted to suggest to us through this man that the best way to "win" this tyranny is to stop going to work.
    Everything will stop and eventually the entire system will crash.
    It means doctors and police and everybody must not go to work.
    Then we could all live on a permanent vacation being self sufficient.!)
    The book was renamed " The Thiaoouba Prophecy " in case anyone is looking for it. Fantastic read. Written by a jewel of a human being.

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    Quote Posted by jeannacav (here)
    It seems that non-participation needs to be covered.
    Otherwise it appears to be apathy.

    Do you have suggestions?
    I like the 'flash mob' concept, for instance, you know, something like an artistic statement along with the message "we are NOT participating".

    ------
    BTW, the reason I do NOT believe the economy will ever crash is that it is a necessary tool for those who are controlling.
    The threat of economic collapse is a great way to create fear which then can be used, but to actually destroy the tool?
    I do not think it will actually happen.

    [yes, federalist papers! ]

    thanks,

    jeanna
    Jeanna, I do like all the points you make, but I would point out that the euro is in the process of literal collapse right now. The results which can be seen across European states (only not in the mainstream news - surprise surprise )

    It is predicted that the US currency will collapse not long after that.

    This is what a lot of people are warning about - to get prepared for when this happens, with food, water and basic needs because when it happens, it's not at all pretty.
    The US wasn't always the reserve world curency - it would be a costly mistake to consider it will always remain so - especially when we aware that definite and determined measures are being taken in order to ensure its collapse, and that' it's collapse is essential for the forwarding of the 'nwo' agenda.

    I'm not at all pointing this out to promote fear, but it is an issue that does need to be taken seriously. Listen to independent forecasters - I really like Gerald Celente, but there are others saying the same thing.
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    I agree with most of what is said..except I believe you SHOULD play the game. BUT.... The problem with the game so far is that all the moves are pretty much made for you nowadays. You've got to start PLAYING the game - making your own moves - and be strong. Because if you PLAY the game, you'll get yourself "in trouble", you'll be ostracised, you'll be ridiculed...you name it. Be strong. Don't stop playing. Be a shining beacon of light for those around you, because eventually they'll start to wake up too - and then you'll be setting an example for them. But most of all - BE STRONG! You are doing the right thing! You are a wayshower, the first wave of a growing movement.

    BE STRONG.
    Check it out - if one steps outside the paradigm, "withdraws consent" that does not necessarily mean retreating to a cave on a mountainside (appealing as that seems sometimes!) Most of us continue to live our lives everyday, interacting with others, going about our daily business, getting the basic food we need to prepare meals, struggling to make ends meet and fulfull our obligations, etc. We are playing OUR Game, that is, we are now making moves that we chose to make for our own reasons and perhaps even adding some new options to the mix. It is for the most part a "quiet revolution" if you will, and does not necessarily involve kicking the TV around and screaming at Whomever and then throwing the thing through the plate glass window!! (Much as I have been tempted to do that!) The GAME becomes very, very interesting and rich as it becomes OUR GAME, OUR STAND in reality. I think, jcocks you know what I mean. I would be the last one to recommend retreating from reality, we must engage......................but in order for our engagement to be meaningful, we must think, speak and act on our terms outside the current control paradigm.

    And Tekai - I most heartily agree that practical steps need to be taken sooner rather than later (making sure one has adequate food, supplies and cash on hand to last for some time) because we all know in our hearts our survival is at issue here. Even so, we must remain hopeful, understanding that our attitudes are the only things we exercise immediate control over, and that we are receivers as well as transmitters, be mindful therefor what you transmit!!

    I still say that in order to wake up we must withdraw consent from the Control Paradigm and proceed about the important business of building something new.
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    Jeanna, I do like all the points you make, but I would point out that the euro is in the process of literal collapse right now. The results which can be seen across European states (only not in the mainstream news - surprise surprise )

    It is predicted that the US currency will collapse not long after that.

    This is what a lot of people are warning about - to get prepared for when this happens, with food, water and basic needs because when it happens, it's not at all pretty.
    The US wasn't always the reserve world currency - it would be a costly mistake to consider it will always remain so - especially when we aware that definite and determined measures are being taken in order to ensure its collapse, and that' it's collapse is essential for the forwarding of the 'nwo' agenda.

    I'm not at all pointing this out to promote fear, but it is an issue that does need to be taken seriously. Listen to independent forecasters - I really like Gerald Celente, but there are others saying the same thing.
    Tekai they might appear to be blowing up the oil rig to use a metaphor about the economic system, but I can guarantee that is not what would actually happen. TPTB REQUIRE the existing economic infrastructure in order to maintain their control paradigm. This is not to say that currencies might not go under, and that us peasants at the bottom are not being set up for more major pain....................but the system, the hollow economic pillar, will continue because it is essential to the infrastructure of their power and control just as the electronic communications media hollow pillar is.
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    Ahkenaton - I do agree with what you're saying in regard to not consenting to the system.

    This is only effective as a society, though, if pretty much everyone participates. The way I see it, and I don't want to p*ss on anyone's parade is that this current system must fall in order that a more genuine one can arise from it, because our entire society is built upon the foundations of economy and profit. This is a sad fact.

    It is this collapsing process that is going to be the challenge and there will be those who will succumb to pretty much anything, even a fascist one world order run by paedophile, merciless control freaks who are incapable of empathy, so long as they feel safe enough.
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    Tekai they might appear to be blowing up the oil rig to use a metaphor about the economic system, but I can guarantee that is not what would actually happen. TPTB REQUIRE the existing economic infrastructure in order to maintain their control paradigm. This is not to say that currencies might not go under, and that us peasants at the bottom are not being set up for more major pain....................but the system, the hollow economic pillar, will continue because it is essential to the infrastructure of their power and control just as the electronic communications media hollow pillar is.
    The 'ptb' will introduce a new monetary system - one which they of course will have the power to print.
    But first the old one must go.

    That's where it gets really ugly, much moreso if people haven't made preparations - people disregard information of the impending crash at their peril. OK, admittedly that likely sounds very scary, nevertheless that's the plan.

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    I agree with much of what you have said and was emphasizing the continued existence of the "two pillars" by way of pointing out one way to (this is in another thread, too) distinguish between fake and real attacks on us. The fake attacks will leave elements of the control paradigm in place, real attacks will not. Even though things may get pretty interesting, I still have hope that the phoenix - i.e. something sparkling and new - will rise from the ashes. And that is where it gets very, very important about our frame of mind, what we do, say and think - because we have the real opportunity to create something very new out of what is now, clearly dying.

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    Check it out - if one steps outside the paradigm, "withdraws consent" that does not necessarily mean retreating to a cave on a mountainside (appealing as that seems sometimes!) Most of us continue to live our lives everyday, interacting with others, going about our daily business, getting the basic food we need to prepare meals, struggling to make ends meet and fulfull our obligations, etc. We are playing OUR Game, that is, we are now making moves that we chose to make for our own reasons and perhaps even adding some new options to the mix. It is for the most part a "quiet revolution" if you will, and does not necessarily involve kicking the TV around and screaming at Whomever and then throwing the thing through the plate glass window!! (Much as I have been tempted to do that!) The GAME becomes very, very interesting and rich as it becomes OUR GAME, OUR STAND in reality. I think, jcocks you know what I mean. I would be the last one to recommend retreating from reality, we must engage......................but in order for our engagement to be meaningful, we must think, speak and act on our terms outside the current control paradigm.

    And Tekai - I most heartily agree that practical steps need to be taken sooner rather than later (making sure one has adequate food, supplies and cash on hand to last for some time) because we all know in our hearts our survival is at issue here. Even so, we must remain hopeful, understanding that our attitudes are the only things we exercise immediate control over, and that we are receivers as well as transmitters, be mindful therefor what you transmit!!

    I still say that in order to wake up we must withdraw consent from the Control Paradigm and proceed about the important business of building something new.
    The thing is though, that until people do wake up - they won’t withdraw from the system. One only happens on realisation of the other.

    Yes, of course we should be optimistic and hopeful, I’m not in the least saying that we shouldn’t be.
    Being prepared doesn’t mean not being hopeful. In fact it means being hopeful, and practical.
    Denying that it’s going to happen is simply sticking one’s head in the sand along with adding to the mess.

    These ‘ptb’s haven’t spent the last god knows how many centuries planning this out – they’re not going to give it up without a fight. Just like that guy with cerebral palsy was pulled from his wheel chair during the London riots.
    Just like Ghandi’s peaceful protest eventuated in bloodshed.

    I have nothing at all against your idea of withdrawing consent – I’m fully in agreement with it. – I didn’t think you meant it as retreating to a cave either. I rather thought you meant it as not buying mentally or physically into the falsity of the illusion of the system.
    Which is the only thing we can do – but until practically everyone is doing it, the system will continue because it is being supported.

    Also, cash will be useless.

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    I agree with much of what you have said and was emphasizing the continued existence of the "two pillars" by way of pointing out one way to (this is in another thread, too) distinguish between fake and real attacks on us. The fake attacks will leave elements of the control paradigm in place, real attacks will not. Even though things may get pretty interesting, I still have hope that the phoenix - i.e. something sparkling and new - will rise from the ashes. And that is where it gets very, very important about our frame of mind, what we do, say and think - because we have the real opportunity to create something very new out of what is now, clearly dying.
    I do agree, Ahkenaton - but there's no point in just saying things that are wishful thinking and denying stuff that might be considered scary.
    We have to be truthful - with ourselves first and foremost, with each other and in regard to what is happening in the world around us.

    Something sparkling and new will arise from the ashes - so long as most of us don't settle - because we're scared.

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    Tekai I agree heartily what what you have said and thank your for your wisdom, grit and spirit! I also believe that we should not take violent action unless we are defending ourselves or our loved ones and that is why I stop short on those issues and emphasize withdrawing from the paradigm. This is because we must practice what we preach......if we wish to create something new we must NOT adopt the tactics of those who seek to destroy us. There has to be another way than act/react! Once we - that is many of us - WAKE UP - we can act together to create something new. It is for this I pray and why I earnestly exhort others to WAKE UP!! Ahk

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    Tekai I agree heartily what what you have said and thank your for your wisdom, grit and spirit! I also believe that we should not take violent action unless we are defending ourselves or our loved ones and that is why I stop short on those issues and emphasize withdrawing from the paradigm. This is because we must practice what we preach......if we wish to create something new we must NOT adopt the tactics of those who seek to destroy us. There has to be another way than act/react! Once we - that is many of us - WAKE UP - we can act together to create something new. It is for this I pray and why I earnestly exhort others to WAKE UP!! Ahk
    Absolutely, Ahk – the waking of humanity is the only way out of this illusion. And it’s a ruddy big illusion.

    This makes for a fascinating study into the human psyche and the power of ego identity.

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