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    I have never trusted Trump, simply because I do not trust someone that so evidently lacks compassion and empathy for other human beings - this has been very evident in his past rhetoric and actions in the business world before he was even running for president.

    I guess I can understand why people wanted to vote for Trump. People want a saviour, a messiah, someone that they believe will help them from the top. No, the changes have to come from the people. Not from the top down, but from the bottom up.

    No war is a step in the right direction, especially not this one. And yes, this may be a small assault, yet even here 9 civilians, including 4 children died. Must be pretty compassionate of the US to kill civilians in order for them to be spared of getting killed by gas attacks eh?

    The question is still in the air whether Asaad was responsible for these attacks at all and why would he do such a thing at this point, essentially shooting himself in the foot. The timing of the attacks is incredibly convenient for the push of the warmongering cabal into a new full-fledged conflict.

    But there is still hope for change and light at the end of the tunnel.

    The people must help spread awareness about what is happening behind the political curtains thrown up by the media, as well as promoting compassion, empathy, respect and understanding between us. That is the only way to a free humanity. More fear, anger and the resulting actions in wars and conflicts are only polluting our planet, our society, our minds with destruction instead of compassion, peace and freedom.

    If enough people speak out and this turns into a full blown conflict, it can always still be stopped. Stay strong my friends.
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    Somebody shared this on reddit. One can only hope this is the case


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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    Trump doesn't look good when he's lying. It doesn't suit him. No one would have voted for this man:




    and God bless America..... and the entire world........



    3 months ago:



    and god bless America. . . . . . . . . . . .thankyou.......godblessamerica...
    If he is lying then he must be coerced and/or bribe. Normally it comes with both "an offer he cannot resist". There are two ways a president who goes against the PTB, and without protection, can end up. He may become another Kennedy or converted to work for the globalist. Since I didnt see the qualities of Kennedy on Trump I predicted back then that "... he is the kind that will converted".
    For awhile I have hopes that Trump plus RDS and other patriots will group together and make a move against the deep state. effectively providing Trump, and of course his family, protection. Now it seems that the take down will come from outside. Russia and China most probably. The only consolation I have is that the plan was hatch in 1991 and is supposed to conclude 1996. They are now 3 times behind. Together with other indications I will say they are into acts of desperation. So hold on things may get worst before it gets better. But its actually something I am looking forward to. There is nothing to fear its all part of evolution. my two cents.

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    If Asaad uses chemicals, the whole of Nato would come down on them... no way he did this to his own people... I suspect the deep state working behind the scenes, setting up Syria, for a ground invasion, 17 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, now the dark order wants and has wanted Syria for a long time... another 20 year endless war , gaining nothing for America, just enriching the weapons manufacturers and the deep state ... Russia backs Asaad, America wants him gone, a conflict with Russia is coming ... the whole situation is a powder keg...
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    we need pictures of bombed airbase or runways or whatever, with geographical markers ... eye witness on mainstream media and eyewitness on MainStreet media for corroboration of story for the airbase/runway bombings, gas attack victims and ems that helped them, and reasons for a distraction bombing...
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    Quote Posted by 7alon (here)
    Somebody shared this on reddit. One can only hope this is the case

    With a longer view and if the above is true it was nothing but a master stroke....hard to see the woods from the trees, but it has so many positives from one perspective, especially putting perceived distance between himself and Russia...I`m going to wait and see on this one..

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    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/acc...es-into-syria/

    Quote Each one of the 59 Tomahawk missiles fired by the US Navy, by order of Trump, at the Syrian air base in Homs cost somewhere between $800,000 and $1.4 million — per missile. This obviously expensive surge in US military spending subsequently sent the manufacturer’s stock soaring. It also sent the Free Thought Project on an investigation into the types of stocks in which President Trump invests.
    Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/acc...zIgPzCJ4x7r.99

    However, some may not be familiar with the fact that according to the President’s most recent FEC disclosure, the Trumps actual own or have owned stock in Raytheon. That’s right, the 59 missiles, that Trump hurled at Syria — which cost taxpayers somewhere between $47 million and $82 million — could’ve actually turned a profit for the president.

    The report showed that Trump also owns or has owned stock in many well-known companies including Apple, Nike, Whole Foods, Google, Philip Morris, McDonald’s, Facebook, and Morgan Stanley, among many others — including many other defense contractors who stand to make billions off Trump’s aggression.

    READ MORE: Judge to Soldier: “Your time in Iraq makes you a threat to society…”
    It is important to note that in December of 2016, Trump spokesman, Jason Miller told The Post that Trump liquidated all of his assets. However, we’ve yet to see any proof of this and will not see any proof until at least 2018.

    “We need to know, has he put them in conflict free assets … or has he bought other stocks or assets that would create new conflicts?” Norm Eisen, who served as ethics counselor to President Obama asked. “It’s all the more reason that we need a prompt and full financial disclosure. If he did liquidate all his stocks, what did he do with the money? What bank is the money in? What did he buy? It’s a lot of money.”

    According to Business Insider, shares of Raytheon gained 3.54 points, a roughly 2.3 percent increase, in pre-market trading following Thursday night’s strike.


    Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/acc...zIgPzCJ4x7r.99
    forget the obama reference and the political nonsense...look at who profited. Its still a money and numbers game...
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    Red Ice TV


    Trump Train Derailed: Sells Out to Neocon Globalists & Attacks Syria






    Published on Apr 7, 2017
    Henrik and Lana discuss Trump who now supports overthrowing Bashar al-Assad, based on claims made by terrorists that he gassed his own people.



    Jay Dyer - Dissapointement of Trump Submitting to Neocon Pressure


    Published on Apr 8, 2017
    Jay Dyer from jaysanalysis.com talk about Trump folding to pressure from the deep state and the neocons over Syria. Is this it, for Trump?
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    Looks like another international false flag event, and we're back to NWO globalist politics as usual.
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    I would not offer Trump so much latitude that I would accept he was coerced into going after Syria. To then force the whole sad narrative into a mythical Bed of Procustus that cuts off various obvious features of his personality, to turn him into a hero or a saviour isn't just twisting reality, it's mutilating it.

    If he had Assad's and Russia's best intentions at heart, he would have simply told the truth...that it was premature to come to any conclusions about what happened before a full investigation had taken place.

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    Chairman of the Syrian National Committee Faisal Mekdad: "We have no whatsoever any chemical weapons and the Syrian army has not and would never use them against our Syrian people":
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    I'm with Ron Paul on this one

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    Eram I guess you nail it ! I feel the same about, we cannot trust msm at all, also how you can be sure of the gas attack was real? I know that there are thousands of Syrians living outside and some should have relatives there yet, but in a case so sensitive to the public in general, how comes nobody confirms anything? smell fishy ! to say the least. who make the count of the misiles ? , if they where launch!, if yes, they were targeted to the airport? or....? to many possible facts and outcomes to form any opinion. One thing is sure we cannot trust msm, just alternate media or personal communications via web!

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    Tribute to Bashar al-Assad (The Greatest Leader in the Middle East)

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    Russian Prime Minister Medvedev: "Right after Trump's election I said that all would depend on how quickly the existing machinery of power would break his election pledges. It took ten weeks." Trump has been broken by his Deep State adversaries and has agreed furthermore to their agenda of initiating total war with Russia which they actually believe they can win.

    It is rumoured that about an hour before the missile attack Trump warned the Russians secretly to remove their forces from the Shayrat air base. The damage does not suggest that the base was hit by 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles. According to the Russians' objective monitoring data, only 23 missiles reached the target and the whereabouts of the other 36 are unknown. Since they are unlikely to have "missed", the probability is that Russian ground forces in Syria shot them down.

    The attempt to lay the blame on Russia or Syria for the initial "chemical" attack is undoubtedly part of US policy and the probability is that whatever means actually were used either came at the instigation of the United States or the weaponry was supplied by them to the terrorists responsible.

    Neutral Sweden states that the missile attack might be illegal because "authorization for the attack had not been requested from the UN Security Council, nor from US Congress, and it was not made in self-defence."

    This would all be jolly good fun if it were not practically certain that it will lead to WWIII sometime in the autumn.
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    Wilkerson: Trump Attack on Syria Driven by Domestic Politics
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    Quote Retired US Army Colonel and former chief of staff to US Secretary of State Colin Powell, Lawrence Wilkerson weighs in on Trump’s recent bombing of Syria.

    He is of the mind that the sarin gas attack was a “Gulf of Tonkin”, “Iraq WMD” hoax, as a pretense to make a strike, for the purpose of gain “higher ground” in the upcoming peace talks about Syria.

    The so-called sarin “provocation” amounted to less casualties than the collateral deaths of many dozens of US attacks, including the US bombing of Mosul, in Iraq last month. He completely picks apart the official narrative about the sarin gas attack and its alleged motivation.

    We also hear statements from Russia’s Deputy Ambassador to the UN, Vladimir Safronikov, who lambasts the lack of any impartial investigation of the sarin attack, who described it a “Flagrant violation of international law and an act of aggression. We strongly condemn the illegitimate actions by the US. The consequences, for regional and international stability could be extremely serious.”

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    Quote Posted by latte (here)
    I'm with Ron Paul on this one

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    I am really surprised at those that talk about the Machiavellian genius of this Trump strategy. It doesn't take an ounce of common sense to realize that the whole premise of Assad gassing his own people at this time is patently ridiculous. So whether the "strategy" is good or not doesn't make a bit of difference. You just don't bomb a country when it is apparent that there is something sorely amiss here. It is the exact same scenario as the whole "weapons of mass destruction" lie. Are we that unquestioning that we are going to fall for that crap again? Ron Paul seems to be one of the only ones that still uses common sense, logic and integrity when he thinks. He is the voice of reason in a really, really corrupt insane world.

    I see three possibilities here:

    1) We were duped by Trump and his promises were lies to get elected just like every other candidate does. OR

    2) Trump is ruled by his ego and impulsiveness and is prone to take action on an emotional whim. OR

    3) Trump is being manipulated by the deep state and will do the same bidding that Hillary would have done. If this is true, it didn't take very long for him to fall into the lair.

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    Syria attack: is Trump listening to his followers anymore?
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    Quote Trump was going to be the president of peace and non-interference. No foreign wars. No reason for the US to be policeman for the world.

    This was not a minor message. Many Americans who had blown through the prison gates of the US political system when Ron Paul ran for president backed Trump, hoping for sanity.

    Now what?

    On top of the Syria missile attack itself, there are several reasons to believe the sarin nerve gas incident, which provoked the missile strike, was a false flag or an accident, and Syrian President Assad was blameless. But Trump said GO NOW.

    It appeared President Assad, with the help of Russia and the US, was moving closer to victory against the various terrorist groups in Syria. That outcome is now in doubt.

    Is it possible Trump and Putin are secretly working toward the installation of an actual democracy in Syria? If true, the missile attack was a Trump strategy to gain political support from US lawmakers, neocons, and other assorted US military-industrial complex goblins. But I’m not betting on some secret US-Russia plan.

    The demotion of Trump’s special counselor Steve Bannon in recent days could have been a move to get him out of the way, before the discussion about launching the missile strike took place—because Bannon might have voiced deep opposition.

    Another “benefit” from the attack on Syria: with Democrats, war-hawk Republicans, media pundits, and other assorted Beltway adrenaline junkies suddenly piling praise on Trump, the passage of an inflated federal budget for the military is quite likely. That’s a plus for defense contractors.

    Arch Rockefeller Globalists, including Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, and Trilateral Commission players are now breathing a tentative sigh of relief. Trump seems to have come into their fold. He’s operating “on their turf, doing the right thing.”

    All of which leaves millions of Trump supporters—the people who elected him—out in the cold. They didn’t sign on for this. The missile attack was just the sort of move Hillary Clinton would have made.

    Trump surely understands this. He’s made the calculation that it doesn’t matter. Apparently, he believes he can win his supporters back.

    He also understands that the US intelligence assessment of the sarin attack in Syria could have been cooked, fixed, dreamed up, based on an intentionally staged event. But he’s chosen to ignore that.

    And unless he and Putin are playing a secret game in concert, having decided to install a new and improved anti-jihad secular government in Syria, Trump has pushed Putin away from any reasonable negotiating table. Here too Trump gains support from his opponents in the US, who have been shouting about Demon Russia and insisting that Putin and Trump together fixed the 2016 US election. Finally, Trump “sees the light” about Russia. Finally, he sees that Russia is backing the wrong horse in Syria. He sees that Russia is the eternal enemy of America. It’s all nonsense, of course, but Trump felt he had to get the screaming press and the majority of Congress off his back.

    If so, he has miscalculated. His domestic enemies will never let up. They aim to take him down. They are dedicated to pushing him out of the White House, or at the very least, neutralizing every one of his policies during the next four years.

    And again, Trump’s strength—his supporters who voted for him, who were hoping against hope that his administration would turn America in a new direction—Nationalism, not Globalism—his ultimate strength has taken a blow.

    He has distanced himself from the power of those who put him in office.

    A populist leader who does that is playing with fire.

    He may temporarily win praise from the media echo chamber, but those echoes fade fast, and then he’ll realize he is isolated—which is exactly the position in which his opponents want him. On a mountain top, alone, his only option to embrace those he was campaigning against.

    Is Trump smarter than that? Does he have hole cards no one has yet seen?

    Or did he just make a fatal move, a mere 75 days after taking office?

    I could spend another 5000 words detailing the people Trump has surrounded himself with, but the point is, most of them want to block him from thinking about, and talking to, the people who elected him. They want to keep him pinned to the “Washington conversation,” which is always and forever elitist. In their view, “presidential” means deaf, dumb, and blind to the wishes of the people. It’s the way politics works. That’s what sells. It sells to the media. It sells to the intelligence establishment. It sells to the briefers who tell Trump what the “inside game” is every day. It sells to people of every political persuasion, except those who want basic Nationalism.

    We KNOW Trump is blind and dumb when it comes to certain aspects of life in the US. In his desire to make business the overwhelming business of America, he is willing, for example, to ignore ACTUAL environmental destruction in exactly the way George W Bush was willing. (Trump’s new EPA chief has already taken a ban of highly poisonous pesticides, Lorsban and Dursban, off the table.) We KNOW Trump is clueless when it comes to the FDA approving highly toxic medical drugs that kill huge numbers of citizens (106,000 a year, at a conservative estimate). He wants to enable FASTER FDA drug approval. That is a catastrophe in the making.

    But, putting that aside, the defeat of Globalism, bringing back jobs to America, securing the borders against criminals, opposing that treacherous collection of self-entitled Globalist scum on the East Side of Manhattan called the United Nations—these are issues millions of Americans have come to understand, and they expect Trump to take decisive action.

    They also expected him to refrain from launching attacks against foreign nations. They expected him to bring US troops home. They expected him to stop policing the world. They expected him to drain neocons from his inner circle.

    But now, for the moment, the distance between Trump and the people who put him in office is increasing; and if a point is reached where those people no longer have faith that Trump can hear them, he is done.

    He’ll be living the life of a president, like other presidents.

    A shadow, remote.

    Does he understand that?

    Many months ago, I laid out and repeated my reasons, my ONLY reasons for favoring Trump: he was keeping Hillary Clinton out of the White House; he was mercilessly attacking mainstream news, which is the source of information mind control in America, the main obstructing force against people waking up to realities that are being hidden from them; he was gathering millions of citizens who want freedom and prosperity and an end to Globalism-Fascism-Collectivism-Socialism-Corporatism-political correctness.

    I said: everything else is up for grabs.

    It still is. But Trump has to understand what he is doing to his supporters—who exist as a movement independent of him.

    Those supporters can check out of the Trump Hotel.

    Like unhappy tourists, they can leave with a bad taste in their mouths.

    They can move on.

    Worst of all, they can wait for the next hopeful candidate and do nothing in the meantime.
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    To me it's fairly obvious that this was all a co-ordinated tripartheid action involving Trump, Putin and Assad.

    It's the only narrative where everything fits.

    Trump is under pressure from the neocons on multiple fronts: domestic media, 'Russian Hackgate', they don't like his appeasement agenda etc. Both Assad and Russia have been successful in mitigating the ant-government forces in Syria but if Trump is seen to side with them that will just hand far too much ammunition to his adversaries. So roll-on a little chess move to alleviate the situation.

    With that chemical attack, either Trump's being baited by the neocon/ISIS/Israel axis OR it was arranged conveniently with his knowledge to give him cover. Either way he's used it to purge a whole load of obstacles in one swipe and probably cleared it with Putin/Assad in advance. The Russians oblidge by getting out of the way and doing a little pretend "wardance" for the media. Assad obliges by making an airbase available for target practice and everyone comes out happy:

    • Trump is now able to pursue both his ISIS purge in Syria AND his constructive foreign policy collaboration with Russia/China with impunity from the US media and his own internal enemies

    • Assad gets continuity of support from Russia and a new ally in the Trump administration

    • Russia consolidate their foothold in the Middle-East and gain a new ally in the US ant-deep state faction

    How is this not totally obvious ?
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