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    Did You Ever Watch One Of Those Classic "Westerns"?

    If you did, this kind of picture may be familiar:


    Monument Valley



    Well, lately, I have been watching some of those "Westerns," fascinated by those vast expanses punctuated with these "buttes" and Mesas...

    Anyway, while watching these kind of sceneries, something finally hit me like a few tons of bricks:

    "Where did it go???"

    "What did it???"

    What is it that I am talking about?

    China's version, which may give one a clue as to what I am hinting at:


    See?

    Isn't it obvious?

    No worries if you don't see it... it took me almost a life time to finally become cognizant of the obvious...
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    Default Re: It's So Obvious, Most Everyone Misses It...

    ok, please name the obvious for the blind ones like me. thanks (are we talking of helioports or something like that... or else?)

    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    Did You Ever Watch One Of Those Classic "Westerns"?

    If you did, this kind of picture may be familiar:


    Monument Valley



    Well, lately, I have been watching some of those "Westerns," fascinated by those vast expanses punctuated with these "buttes" and Mesas...

    Anyway, while watching these kind of sceneries, something finally hit me like a few tons of bricks:

    "Where did it go???"

    "What did it???"

    What is it that I am talking about?

    China's version, which may give one a clue as to what I am hinting at:


    See?

    Isn't it obvious?

    No worries if you don't see it... it took me almost a life time to finally become cognizant of the obvious...

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    Stuff growing on the atolls, buttes and mesas.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    I think he's alluding to the massive rock mesa that's no longer there (leaving only those isolated stubs behind as remnants of the ancient rock-plateau expanse).

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    Near where I grew up there is a butte in the middle of the forest ...



    I was told that it is an ancient volcanic core, such an explanation might not fit well for those Chinese towers though ...
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    I think maybe he's talking about water. A great ocean of water that carved the buttes over millennia?

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    It might take me another life time to see it.

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    At one time they were both plateaus. I also see that at least the USA ones have a conical eroded base and a vertical structure above the base. Especially with the Chinese ones I do not see either water or wind erosion. So what created them?? And over how long a period of time? The irregular nature of them suggests they were not "man" made.

    In the last pic of the monuments buttes, in the bottom left corner, the lower part of that structure shows water and wind erosion. Above that is simple sedimentary collapse. That is the only pic where I see water or wind erosion. Nothing of that nature in the Chinese pics.
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    I live in New Mexico and have wandered around the "Four Corners" area of New Mexico, Arizona, Utah and Colorado. There are many of these formations throughout this area. Indeed, Monument Valley is near Kayenta, Arizona, which is not far from Four Corners. It is my understanding that the "monuments" are the remnants of the volcanic core of erstwhile relatively small valcanos. Over the vast expanses of time the more "earthen" outside parts of the valcano succumb to the erosion of rain and wind... leaving behind the volcanic core which is, or was, composed of harder material. Over even more time these monuments too will whittle away.

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    Quote Posted by indigopete (here)
    I think he's alluding to the massive rock mesa that's no longer there (leaving only those isolated stubs behind as remnants of the ancient rock-plateau expanse).


    That's correct!

    What's "obviously" missing is the ginormous volume of sedimentary material that existed, once upon a time, between these buttes... from buttes to buttes!

    Because one can follow, from butte to butte, the same sedimentary layers - bottom, middle and top - that are not in between them anymore: it's all gone!!!

    I have no answer for where did it all go, except, maybe, into the Gulf of Mexico; nor do I know what abraded/eroded that enormous volume of rock except, maybe, a huge amount of water for a very long time... well, that's a lot of water!

    As for China, the rock type being "limestone," it all got dissolved, again, with water action of the "karst" type which is best known for sinkhole formation/generation.

    Moral of the story: Sometimes, what's right in one's face is what's "missing," what's not there but should be
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    In the very ancient past, that area and many others are nuclear blast sites from nuclear wars of our ancestors the old Lyrians... the Gobi desert and Death Valley, etc ...
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    Quote Posted by ErtheVessel (here)
    I think maybe he's talking about water. A great ocean of water that carved the buttes over millennia?
    This was my thinking.

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    Herve if you are interested, I know just the video you may like to watch. It is an episode of the Joe Rogan Experience with Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson. This very long episode discusses the research both Graham and Randall have been doing, discussing the possibility of a cataclysmic impact over 10,000 years ago, which may have hit massive glaciers of ice in the northern hemisphere during the ice age. Geological evidence suggests this impact caused massive floods unlike anything we have ever witnessed, capable of wiping out civilisations, structures and more. Well worth the watch.


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    Quote Posted by 7alon (here)
    Herve if you are interested, I know just the video you may like to watch. It is an episode of the Joe Rogan Experience with Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson. This very long episode discusses the research both Graham and Randall have been doing, discussing the possibility of a cataclysmic impact over 10,000 years ago, which may have hit massive glaciers of ice in the northern hemisphere during the ice age. Geological evidence suggests this impact caused massive floods unlike anything we have ever witnessed, capable of wiping out civilisations, structures and more. Well worth the watch.

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    It's fine now

    I was thinking of the exact podcast. For the last few weeks I've been on a Randal Carlson binge and have a john goodman like Crush on him now. Lol!

    These two together are great... and he takes these topics so seriously but explains them very well for dummies like me

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    Water has an massive eroding demolition effect, as the Oriville dam has demonstrated.

    I also have wondered many times about this Herve. If we had a pole shift there would be massive amounts of sloshing water whilst it settles.

    Maybe in the past that's happened?

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    The formation of the Grand Canyon is likely a variant on the same phenomenon: not miles and miles wide, but a mile deep. http://biologos.org/blogs/archive/fl...nce-really-say


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    Quote Posted by viking (here)
    Water has an massive eroding demolition effect, as the Oriville dam has demonstrated.

    I also have wondered many times about this Herve. If we had a pole shift there would be massive amounts of sloshing water whilst it settles.

    Maybe in the past that's happened?

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    Pole shifts do happen naturally over a very long period of time. However, maybe it is possible that something in the past hit earth hard enough to create one that occurred drastically faster?

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    Misty environmental growth on them? Please explain.

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    Very interesting takes on the formations! If we are to believe about The Great Flood...imagine what damage the strength of the water could do! This Flood is mentioned in the Atra-Hasis, as well!

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    I have always wonder why is that we need to dig into the soil to find remains of whatever we are looking for (archaeologists anyway). It's like everything got covered with under eight feet of soil. Where all that soil came from? Does that mean that mountains are losing their tops and winds take that soil and redistribute it around the planet? Even in Egypt I'm very convinced if some cubic feet of sand were removed around the archaeological sites we could find all the answers there. There are tunnels under some houses close to the pyramids. Could it be that long time ago everything there was on the surface and after nuclear explosions got covered with sand? Even in the Easter Island they are now excavating around the heads and finding the bodies. That's an island loss in the middle of the ocean, how all those bodies got covered with soil? As to these buttes some theorize they are stumps of gigantic trees from a very remote past and a lot of them look like that (I'm not saying they are).

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