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    Here we have the Bank of Canada giving a pep talk to the public about the need to increase productivity via robots and AI. How needed it is, and how we have to prepare for the downside of unemployment and greater wealth disparity.

    http://www.financialpost.com/m/wp/ne...f-canada-warns

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    Automation will have significant impact on jobs, but don’t fear the robots says Bank of Canada’s Wilkins

    The Bank of Canada says Canadians should not be afraid that robots are about to steal their jobs.

    Canada’s central bank is counting on automation to provide a much-needed boost to Canada’s economic productivity, said Carolyn Wilkins, senior deputy governor of the bank, in a noon-hour speech Tuesday to the Toronto Board of Trade. For that to happen, Canadians need to embrace, not shun, the opportunities created by workplace automation, she said.

    The bank believes productivity will contribute two-thirds of the average 1.5 per cent growth expected in the Canadian economy over the next few years. “Productivity growth is the only game in town when it comes to raising the economic and financial well-being of people over a long period,” she said....

    Automation may be the answer to productivity, but the bank acknowledges that technology and automation can displace some jobs in the short term. Wilkins cited studies by McKinsey & Company and the Brookfield Institute that suggest around 40 per cent of tasks currently done by humans could be automated.

    As machines replace humans, policy makers should confront the disruption with programs that foster skills training, education and continuous learning.


    My question is, who's going to benefit from this agenda? The 1% 'owners' will. What of the middle and working class, how will they be benefited? How will being on an endless retraining gig wear down blue collar workers?

    A better question is what programs will be in place to help people transition out of this gerble cage? I would suggest that getting off the grid is a good option to this automation phase. I think some tech might be useful, like three d printers and the internet, but for the most part i would choose to exit this society.

    The next step after this is 'human augmentation', the eugenics strategy of having us all part robot, or cyborgs, so we can be programmed and controllable. The recent dystopia movie 'ghost in the shell' shows a near future snapshot of this future hell on earth.

    I would recommend the next generations to embrace the good tech this world provides, but try to build a lifestyle that can be or is independent of it. An example being buying land, growing a garden, having an independent source of energy, and having an independent spiritual life connected with Mother Earth and our Divine Creator.

    Avoid the automation treadmill and rat-race, and get something out of living that is worth the effort.

    Peace and Love.
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    I wouldn't "mind" if the 1% would be happy to go away and live privately with a plethora of actual robots at their beck and call. It seems they prefer actual people/drones/slaves to wait on them hand/foot. This reminds me of the Dune series of Novels ( Frank herbert) where a war was eventually waged against "thinking machines" that forced humans to engage with their minds' full potential. Some of the new robots Darpa is prototyping are downright loathesome. Enhance them with human abilities and a very unpleasant world may ensue. How long does it take us to achieve a "balance" when massive change is introduced?

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    I remember when computers were promised to do the same back in the early eighties. An average wage in current times is worth far less than now it was in the 1970's - the computer helped the 1% get richer ... that is all that happened ...
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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    I wouldn't "mind" if the 1% would be happy to go away and live privately with a plethora of actual robots at their beck and call. It seems they prefer actual people/drones/slaves to wait on them hand/foot. This reminds me of the Dune series of Novels ( Frank herbert) where a war was eventually waged against "thinking machines" that forced humans to engage with their minds' full potential. Some of the new robots Darpa is prototyping are downright loathesome. Enhance them with human abilities and a very unpleasant world may ensue. How long does it take us to achieve a "balance" when massive change is introduced?
    The ultimate goal for the application of robots is police for the slaves. They wont awake, remember or disobey. Police/military force is the only force that stands between the masters and slaves. without police or police disobeying the 1% wont stand a chance.

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    Exactomundo. Canada is actually being "told/programmed": "Attention you boobies. You are being presented with our new tech man labor-less factories. We will take the tax cuts to liquidate your jobs with "break-free" 24 hour productivity models that require not healthcare, but mechanics. That is until the AI, begins its regeneration department to which you're only needed to buy, buy, buy from us." No choice in your democratic elected services anymore."
    Hahahaha... do they really think us that stupid. AI is gonna backfire, create hybrid assassins and wipe them out. Once it figures out the "beast" is global trade enslavement for a place to "just survive, while destroying Land, Air, Water and Seas aka "natural L.A.W.S.
    It will burn itself out wondering why man is suicidal or grossly planning its own destruction. Then work to correct it. Dabbling with the dark, can yield bitter results. Hackers would install fail safes. We are many heroes/sheroes of our generation awaiting the call to step up in our best. Humans live to be worthy of ultimate sacrifice, when it comes to survival of future generations. Not the gov/paid/ murderers posing as heroes, but the real McCoy, fearing not separation from that hell. Our grand-children will fall for it, if "fail safes" of their "HUMAN right, PRESERVED" are not installed in every AI device our children/grandchildren use.
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    For the heavy lifting on jobs through hydrolics, but the QC, Quality control will be taken over too. Like he said. Don't "hire the greedy non-human services, where computer voice loops lock you in a pay system. Use Amazon and demand these workers recieve breaks on their 12 hr, 9day straight work weeks.

    How to do it yourself should be part of every family's home school.

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    For the heavy lifting on jobs through hydrolics, but the QC, Quality control will be taken over too. Like he said. Don't "hire the greedy non-human services, where computer voice loops lock you in a pay system. Use Amazon and demand these workers recieve breaks on their 12 hr, 9day straight work weeks.

    How to do it yourself should be part of every family's home school.
    Yes, Lifebringer, home schooling will likely be a 'must'. All the survival and do-it-yourself techniques would be part of the curriculum. How to make clothes, grow food, maintain your dwelling plus any modern tech stuff as needed like vehicle mechanics and computer necessities. Just gotto stay out of their propaganda machine and eugenics plans.

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    Here's a quote from how big oil is being impacted by tech change. I would think people should look at what they need to survive (ie. dwelling and growing food), a strategy for investing your limited resources, so that the coming changes wont leave you starving.

    “Everyone is repeatedly surprised at how fast electric cars are coming forward, but the political pressure to adopt this technology is increasing all the time. And it’s not due to concerns over climate change — it’s city air pollution,” Helm says.

    BP’s chief economist, Spencer Dale, added that the company is also preparing to study the future impact of artificial intelligence technology and 3D printing which could dramatically reduce the energy used in manufacturing and shipping parts.

    “Many low-cost producers have rationed supply with a view that if they do not produce a barrel today they can produce a barrel tomorrow,” Dale said earlier this year. “I think it is increasingly likely that there will be technically recoverable oil reserves which will never be extracted.”

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    Quote Posted by Justplain (here)
    Here's a quote from how big oil is being impacted by tech change. I would think people should look at what they need to survive (ie. dwelling and growing food), a strategy for investing your limited resources, so that the coming changes wont leave you starving.
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    yes definitely right now it can still be done while money is the means of control. Once robots became the means of control you cannot even plant your own food. Human police has emotion thus there is a danger of waking up to the suffering of fellow human. They cannot impose force control only deception control as of now. this will change once robots are operational. the concept been depicted in movies over and over.
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    Quote Posted by Justplain (here)
    Here's a quote from how big oil is being impacted by tech change. I would think people should look at what they need to survive (ie. dwelling and growing food), a strategy for investing your limited resources, so that the coming changes wont leave you starving.
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    yes definitely right now it can still be done while money is the means of control. Once robots became the means of control you cannot even plant your own food. Human police has emotion thus there is a danger of waking up to the suffering of fellow human. They cannot impose force control only deception control as of now. this will change once robots are operational. the concept been depicted in movies over and over.
    I agree, Bubu. I think we should communicate to the next generations to use excess capital to build an independent lifestyle. Use tech like 3d printers and effecient batteries and desalinaters to get there, and try to establish a life independent of this trap. Robots can take a hike.

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