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    Are You A Safe Person? 8 Indicators

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    Would others consider you trustworthy, reliable, and personable? In other words, are you a safe person? Psychotherapist Dr. Les Carter breaks down the difference between unsafe people and safe people.

    Dr. Les Carter is a best selling author and therapist who lives in Dallas, Tx. In the past 39 years he has conducted over 60,000 counseling sessions and many workshops and seminars.
    Eight Traits of an Unsafe Person:
    1. Unsafe people don't receive or digest input very well.
    2. Unsafe people can be highly defensive with strong barriers up.
    3. Unsafe people blame and accuse.
    4. Unsafe people aren't really inclined towards intimacy.
    5. Unsafe people operate with a tightly maintained agenda.
    6. Unsafe people are very slow to forgive, if they forgive at all.
    7. Unsafe people can't say “I'm sorry.” They can't say, “I was wrong.”
    8. Unsafe people use one-up, one-down communication.
    Eight Traits of a Safe Person:
    1. Safe people are approachable, especially in disagreements.
    2. Safe people want to learn from their mistakes.
    3. Safe people are transparent. (authenticity, i.e. internally and externally consistent)
    4. Safe people genuinely like to connect.
    5. Safe people affirm and encourage.
    6. Safe people have a generally agreeable manner.
    7. Safe people manage anger cleanly.
    8. Safe people are reliable. You can count on them.

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    Why Empaths Fall For Love Bombing
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    Default Re: 20 Basic Tactics Used By Narcissists, Sociopaths And Psychopaths To manipulate And Silence A Prey

    In all my days I have only felt safe around a handful of individuals. Those criteria of 'safe' people are exactly the types that are not safe. So I must assume that this is mostly a subjective stance at best. Yes the 'safe' people are easiest to be around. Yes 'safe' people will have your back as long as you tow the line. But, and this is a massive but, they are the first to turn on you for whatever reason they concoct because they themselves never feel safe and never trust anyone. It is in the nature of the 'safe' person to always question, to always look for anomalies, and to never let anyone get away with anything. that is the opposite of 'safe'.

    And while the unsafe person may have vested interests, that's okay because so do the 'safe' people. The difference is that the 'unsafe' person is known to have them and admits it while the 'safe' person denies they have such tendencies.

    So, in all my years I have had a handful of absolutely 'safe' friends and none of them were 'safe' people. Yet these same 'unsafe' people would have laid down their lives for me just as I would for them. In their presence I was completely safe.

    Go figure

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    How to deal with being held hostage at the THANKSGIVING table
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    How Does Being With a Narcissist Affect Your Body, Mind, and Soul?
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    she is so right.... thanks for posting this...

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    How Do Narcissists REACT When IGNORED
    11/25/19
    Jess Stanley

    ( Some new to me, useful info. I just had an experience with a narcissist's "flying monkey", a first for me. )

    "No matter the reason WHY you're ignoring a narcissist they are definitely going to notice and react to what you're doing.
    There's several different ways they choose to react and this is a list of those possibilities so you can KNOW what's coming!
    This will be ESPECIALLY helpful if you're contemplating no contact."

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    When You Unmask a Covert Narcissist, RUN, But Quietly! Counterfeit Relationship, Narcissism Expert
    May 30, 2016
    Ross Rosenberg
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3an9crV9feM

    "In this video, I explain the very complicated and dangerous undertaking of protecting yourself when you uncover/unmask a covert narcissist and the dysfunctional relationship they trick you into. Because of their manipulative nature and the fact that they are often respected and even adored by others, taking them on directly is big mistake.

    Ross Rosenberg's latest book, The Human Magnet Syndrome: The Codependent Narcissist Trap (2018) and his personal development, seminar, workshop and other services can be found at www.SelfLoveRecovery.com or www.HumanMagnetSyndrome.com.

    Ross Rosenberg’s work on codependency, narcissism, trauma, Self-Love Recovery™, and his "Codependency Cure™" has earned him international recognition. He owns Clinical Care Consultants, a multi-location Chicago suburb counseling center, and the Self-Love Recovery Institute. He has traveled to 30 states and twice to Europe to present his workshops. Ross's first book, “The Human Magnet Syndrome" sold over 50K copies and is published in French, Spanish and soon in Czech. His latest Human Magnet Syndrome book, a complete re-write of the first, is available on February 1st. Ross’s 7 million video views/68,000 subscribers YouTube platform has established him as global phenomenon.

    Ross owns Clinical Care Consultants, a counseling center located in Arlington Heights and Inverness IL. .

    Ross's articles at http://goo.gl/XEVxgE "



    I can see why Rosenberg says covert narcissists are the worst kind, and they are dangerous.
    I think there can be real demonic possession involved.
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    Knowing Narcissism. Crucial Information about Narcissistic Personality Disorder
    Ross Rosenberg
    Jul 8, 2015

    ( Excellent explanation of how narcissism comes about and how it operates--therapeutic for the victim of the narcissist who is still angry and hurt.
    Also, the difference between healthy and unhealthy narcissism.
    Empaths are typically most vulnerable to narcissists, and prone to be overly compassionate, which can get us into trouble, but I think it helps to understand the narcissist's dilemma while also keeping boundaries intact, and I found this sensitive description of the narcissists' inner worlds to be illuminating.
    Lingering nger and fear aren't pleasant feelings for a narcissist's victim, but understanding can help to dissipate those feelings, as well as enlighten one as to how to recognize and avoid narcissists or even help them, if that is possible.
    So much info about narcissists is expressed in such a ridiculing and even hostile manner--it's good to have a sense of humor about such a serious subject and not be naive, but also good to remember they are severely damaged and suffering beings, even if their masks make it so that's not immediately obvious, and that they are extremely difficult to help, if not impossible.)

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    .. they are extremely difficult to help, if not impossible....I agree to this....they need professional help...work up the childhood and whatever else went wrong in their live which made them become a Narcissist.....
    But first of all, they need to want this kind of help!!!! There is no way in forcing a Narcissist to make a therapy...
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    This, I think, is very interesting...especially for people who have or had a traumatic relationship or a PTSD....maybe some good help to know this.

    Even Narcissists might could work with this, if they really want to change their ways of behavements? Just an idea...of mine... Well I think this informations are good to know. Decide for yourself....



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    8 Signs of the Most Destructive Narcissistic Profile
    1/30/20
    Dr. Todd Grande

    (This expert is really good at distinguishing the characteristics and differences in narcissistic types, and they are quite distinct once you know what to look for. )

    "This video answers the questions: What is the worst type of narcissistic personality or narcissistic profile? What combination of narcissistic characteristics is the worst for society? What combination of narcissistic characteristics is the worst for the person who has it?

    Narcissism:

    There are two types of narcissism: With grandiose narcissism we see characteristics like being extroverted, socially bold, self-confident, having a superficial charm, being resistant to criticism, and being callous and unemotional. Vulnerable narcissism is characterized by shame, anger, aggression, hypersensitivity, a tendency to be introverted, defensive, avoidant, anxious, depressed, socially awkward, and shy.

    Narcissistic personality disorder is a Cluster B personality disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual. It has nine symptom criteria, five of which are required for a diagnosis.

    1: Grandiose sense of self-importance
    2: Fantasies
    3: Special or unique
    4: Requires excessive admiration
    5: Sense of entitlement
    6: Manipulative
    7: Lacks empathy for others
    8: Often envious
    9: Arrogant attitudes or behaviors "



    Types of Narcissistic Abuse | Exposure, Direct, Insidious, & Emotional Starvation
    Feb 23, 2019
    Dr. Todd Grande

    "This video attempts to answer two questions (1) What is the nature of narcissistic abuse? and (2) What are the types of narcissistic abuse?
    The first type of narcissistic abuse is exposure abuse. This one's a fairly basic type of abuse. If someone is in a relationship with a person who is narcissistic, the arrogant and condescending behavior is embarrassing and could result in social isolation for the couple. This is a mild form of abuse or discomfort. The second type this gets much more serious and this is direct abuse. This is when somebody yells, screams, says derogatory remarks, and insults. This is not subtle and it has a fairly pronounced overlap with physical abuse. The third type of narcissistic abuse is insidious abuse. It is really the most common and when people use the term “narcissistic abuse” oftentimes this is what they're really talking about (this is the most discussed on YouTube) This abuse involves manipulation (e.g. gaslighting) It is about maintaining power and control. We also see the classic guilt trip and the wounded hero mentality. The fourth type of emotional abuse I'll talk about here I call emotional starvation, lack of affection and sensitivity, and sometimes I also refer to this as a lack of depth."
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    Why is narcissism so dangerous?
    Oct 21, 2019
    Dr. Todd Grande

    "This video answers the question: Why is narcissism so dangerous?"


    Case Study: Narcissism and Snapping | When the Narcissist Loses Control
    Jan 26, 2020
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    "This video answers the question: Can I analyze a case study featuring a narcissist who snapped? Sometimes snapping is referred to as an episode of narcissistic rage.

    What does it mean to snap? There is no official scientific definition, but for the purposes this video, here is the definition: when somebody suddenly manifests aggression that is different from their normal behavior.

    People can snap for a variety of reasons. The cause of snapping comes down to a combination of stress and personality.

    Narcissists are susceptible due to their personality structure and they are also susceptible because they create stress through their behavior."

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    How "narcissistic fluffing" can help you "play" the narcissist
    Feb 24, 2020
    DoctorRamani

    (This may seem distasteful and manipulative, but I am learning to do it, and agree it can work and make it a lot easier to deal with a narcissist. But I only do it when absolutely necessary, and keep it to a minimum, and don't do it in such a smarmy manner, unlike in Dr. Ramani's exaggerated demonstration. )



    (And then there's the other extreme, "gray rocking")
    Premiered Jan 3, 2020
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    Narcissistic Abuse of the Masses
    Asymmetric Warfare: propaganda, psyops and narcissistic abuse of the masses

    Mar 27, 2020
    RICHARD GRANNON



    (Some of the insightful comments from the youtube page comment section:
    ludlow 889
    20 hours ago
    Seeing narcissistic abuse at the macro as well as the micro scale is one of the most compelling insights I've encountered. It's uncanny how all the things that create codependents in personal relations are replicated at the level of the masses with hardly any need for a change in method. It's just typical narcissist behavior writ large. And once you see it at the small scale, you can see it at the large scale.

    Speedy Pete
    3 days ago
    Isolating, the Victim from friends, from family, from enjoyable activities and from one's own cultural identity is what narcissistic abusers do in a relationship. We are now being collectively subjected to the same treatment - but "voluntarily" and "for our own good". We are learning to live alone and to distrust our neighbors.

    John McKenna
    3 days ago
    George Orwell's book 1984 should be filed under "non-fiction" as it's become the playbook by which our present reality is being shaped! )
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    What is "future faking"? (Glossary of Narcissistic Relationships)
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    Are You A Safe Person? 8 Indicators

    Dr. Les Carter = DRC

    Dr. Les Carter Resources:
    Would others consider you trustworthy, reliable, and personable? In other words, are you a safe person? Psychotherapist Dr. Les Carter breaks down the difference between unsafe people and safe people.

    Dr. Les Carter is a best selling author and therapist who lives in Dallas, Tx. In the past 39 years he has conducted over 60,000 counseling sessions and many workshops and seminars.
    Eight Traits of an Unsafe Person:
    1. Unsafe people don't receive or digest input very well.
    2. Unsafe people can be highly defensive with strong barriers up.
    3. Unsafe people blame and accuse.
    4. Unsafe people aren't really inclined towards intimacy.
    5. Unsafe people operate with a tightly maintained agenda.
    6. Unsafe people are very slow to forgive, if they forgive at all.
    7. Unsafe people can't say “I'm sorry.” They can't say, “I was wrong.”
    8. Unsafe people use one-up, one-down communication.
    Eight Traits of a Safe Person:
    1. Safe people are approachable, especially in disagreements.
    2. Safe people want to learn from their mistakes.
    3. Safe people are transparent. (authenticity, i.e. internally and externally consistent)
    4. Safe people genuinely like to connect.
    5. Safe people affirm and encourage.
    6. Safe people have a generally agreeable manner.
    7. Safe people manage anger cleanly.
    8. Safe people are reliable. You can count on them.
    Thanks Paula, for this video. I found it a bit late, or missed it.

    In some cases I like the word “unsafe person” more than labeling someone directly as being a narcissist, although in both cases the underlying cause can be the same: Poor self-esteem.

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