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    Thank Flash & Keyholder, I appreciate your advices very much. Have to think it all over...what to do is best.

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    I don*t know if you did hear of this already, but there are brain abnormalities found in narcissists.

    NPD patients had smaller GM (grey matter) volume in the left anterior insula. Independent of group, GM volume in the left anterior insula was positively related to self-reported emotional empathy. Complementary whole-brain analyses yielded smaller GM volume in fronto-paralimbic brain regions comprising the rostral and median cingulate cortex as well as dorsolateral and medial parts of the prefrontal cortex.


    You can read about it here :
    https://www.recoveryranch.com/articl...n-narcissists/

    .......the same goes for psychopaths...but it is not the same abnormality than found in the narcissists.

    the researchers observed deformations in another part of the brain called the amygdala, with the psychopaths showing a thinning of the outer layer of that region called the cortex and, on average, an 18-percent volume reduction in this part of brain.

    "The amygdala is the seat of emotion. Psychopaths lack emotion
    .


    Here you can read about it :
    https://www.livescience.com/13083-cr...ce-ethics.html

    Narcissts are harmless compared to Psychopaths..I think....did expierience both of them on my way already and must say, the Psychophaths are more dangerous and ice cold...only pretending to have emotions for others. And they all have a very good selfesteem...and think they are the middle of the world.

    The Narcissits just pretends to have a good selfesteem, but inside it is a very insecure person...needing attention around the clock.

    Both of them are excellent actors.......

    I dont know if this is right, I am only guessing...I think the narcisstic behavior is often caused by expierences the person made while being a child...which can cause certain blockings (feelings/emphaty) and building up the constantly need of attention........??

    Just thinking about it. I am not ready to give it all up and run away. I think I might found a way to bring in a healing of my relationship. I believe it is possible.

    I am practicing an extremely powerful self-transformation technique by now, got in contact with my subconsciousness, find answers and solutions by it...it is amazing.
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    I don*t know if you did hear of this already, but there are brain abnormalities found in narcissists.

    NPD patients had smaller GM (grey matter) volume in the left anterior insula. Independent of group, GM volume in the left anterior insula was positively related to self-reported emotional empathy. Complementary whole-brain analyses yielded smaller GM volume in fronto-paralimbic brain regions comprising the rostral and median cingulate cortex as well as dorsolateral and medial parts of the prefrontal cortex.


    You can read about it here :
    https://www.recoveryranch.com/articl...n-narcissists/

    .......the same goes for psychopaths...but it is not the same abnormality than found in the narcissists.

    the researchers observed deformations in another part of the brain called the amygdala, with the psychopaths showing a thinning of the outer layer of that region called the cortex and, on average, an 18-percent volume reduction in this part of brain.

    "The amygdala is the seat of emotion. Psychopaths lack emotion
    .


    Here you can read about it :
    https://www.livescience.com/13083-cr...ce-ethics.html

    Narcissts are harmless compared to Psychopaths..I think....did expierience both of them on my way already and must say, the Psychophaths are more dangerous and ice cold...only pretending to have emotions for others. And they all have a very good selfesteem...and think they are the middle of the world.

    The Narcissits just pretends to have a good selfesteem, but inside it is a very insecure person...needing attention around the clock.

    Both of them are excellent actors.......

    I dont know if this is right, I am only guessing...I think the narcisstic behavior is often caused by expierences the person made while being a child...which can cause certain blockings (feelings/emphaty) and building up the constantly need of attention........??

    Just thinking about it. I am not ready to give it all up and run away. I think I might found a way to bring in a healing of my relationship. I believe it is possible.

    I am practicing an extremely powerful self-transformation technique by now, got in contact with my subconsciousness, find answers and solutions by it...it is amazing.
    Good analysis.

    As for healing the relationship, if you think you can have your partner modify his brain, better be very early, it is almost impossible without the consciousness or something lacking, in those in which it is lacking, and the strong, very strong desire and will to change, which is almost never (99.99999999% ot time) the case in narcissists.

    As far as psychopaths, it is a 100 % of the time lack of consciousness and lack of will/desire.

    Someone wanting to modify its neurological pathways and develop some new neurons has to work at it for years, I truly mean counting in dozens of years, with daily brain and body practices, extremely difficult. And older the person, more difficult it is. Most abandon. And this is for people who have no narcissism or psychopathy, therefore the desire of change and betterment.

    Quote I am practicing an extremely powerful self-transformation technique by now, got in contact with my subconsciousness, find answers and solutions by it...it is amazing
    Great, come on, lets share with us, if you do not mind.

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    Your guess is supported by Sam Vaknin, an expert in narcissism, and a self-admitted narcissist himself. There are some excellent posts featuring talks from his youtube channel
    https://www.youtube.com/user/samvaknin
    ...on this thread. [QUOTE=Whisper;1268112]

    I dont know if this is right, I am only guessing...I think the narcisstic behavior is often caused by expierences the person made while being a child...which can cause certain blockings (feelings/emphaty) and building up the constantly need of attention........??

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    Mahalo, thank you, for your feedback onawah & Flash.
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    More great insights into the empath/narcissist relationships, which follow definite patterns, from a great source, Vital Mind Psychology:
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_P...GMQQ/playlists

    The characteristic of empaths which is often their downfall is PRIDE, which makes them think they can heal the narcissist, and which the narcissist will use to their great advantage to gain energy supply.
    The seeming contradiction to the empath's characteristic of pride is the strength of the internal critic.
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    These 3 may be especially helpful:
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    Regarding the empath/narcissist connection, I’ve felt that children from abusive homes become empathic as a survival mechanism. They become hyper sensitive to facial expressions, moods, situational awareness, and this heightens the empathic/intuitive perceptions. I am curious if others feel like me that this is the case.

    I also have a personal observation about changing or healing a narcissist. I grew up with a narcissist father, so I knew him very well. My belief echos what others have said, I don’t think it was possible for him to change.

    Something else that I haven’t read on this thread yet, not explicitly, is that narcissism is a full spectrum disorder. Some people have it worse, and others less, with the level of abuse dished from a narcissist.

    So depending on the case, it very well may be possible to manage a relationship with strong boundaries. And some narcissists may be more willing than others to cooperate, especially if they understand the boundaries and consequences. It would be very much like the relationship between a child and adult.

    I’m not really sure where my father fell on that spectrum, maybe somewhere in the middle. I do know that he was a very sad, unhappy individual. And maybe this is naive of me, but I do feel like he had a genuine love and deep compassion for other people. He really genuinely appreciated when neighbors or family would do something to take care of him - emotionally he needed it. He just couldn’t quite fully reciprocate.

    But I have to say, as much as I dearly loved him - and I’m sure he loved me too. But that said, he literally couldn’t change, and I think he desperately wanted to, he just couldn’t.

    And maybe one final thought, the inner child meditation reminded me of this book I’m reading that is very good. And I’m curious if anyone else has read it.

    Taming Your Outer Child: Overcoming Self-Sabotage and Healing from Abandonment, by Susan Anderson

    https://www.amazon.com/Taming-Your-O..._1546924697943
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    I dont know if this is right, I am only guessing...I think the narcisstic behavior is often caused by expierences the person made while being a child...which can cause certain blockings (feelings/emphaty) and building up the constantly need of attention........??

    I like your line of reasoning. ... and it would be useful to know the root causes of narcissism.


    From this article. https://blogs.psychcentral.com/relat...nd-narcissism/

    Quote Narcissistic wounding starts early in life to children whose parents are insecure, abusive, addictive or have narcissistic patterns themselves. Narcissistic injury happens to the child when his or her emotional needs are not met. …Neglect, physical, mental and sexual abuse, being spoiled and not given structure and limits create the wounding
    Quote Studies indicate that a narcissistic child often experiences extremes of one parent who is harsh or emotionally neglectful … and another that is overly indulging, permissive.

    That would exactly describe my fathers childhood. My grandfather was a strict authoritarian, and would back it up with a switching. And my father was coddled and pampered by his mother and sisters, and overindulged with no boundaries to his behavior.

    This gets me thinking though. Could an entire culture become narcissistic or promote individual narcissism?

    A strict authoritarian government coulpled with a breakdown of cultural moral values - essentially allowing sexual and materialistic overindulgences - a breakdown of cultural values through forced or induced mass migration - i.e. exactly what is happening in western society.

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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    Quote Whisper: Now, knowing my partner is a narcissist....I feel kind of helpless and unsecure, not knowing really what to do. I think I can not trust him at all, knowing he has no empathy for me. It hurts to find this out.
    Leave baby, leave. There is not much else to do.

    And be sure that the disgusting behavior will be enhanced and make you quite distraught while you are leaving. Prepare your departure, but there is a good chance he will guess it. Be mentally prepared to be strong and to cut all ties.

    Tough road, but necessary one. It may take as many years to cure your PTSD from these experiences, and you may fall for other narcissists if you do not learn to love yourself and refuse being damaged by anybody.
    @ Whisper,

    Once again, I have to agree with flash 100% !

    Here's another thread with more stories and advise. Hope it helps: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ight=Sociopath

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    That makes sense, because narcissism is an adaptive response to trauma, and may be what expert on narcissism Sam Vaknin thinks. ( A genius, whose IQ tested off the charts, he started his university education at age 9.)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Vaknin
    I haven't listened to all this yet, but it's one of his latest interviews, and from the title, is probably addressing the question at hand:

    But this is one of the comments on the youtube page: Ben Coles
    1 week ago
    "Vaknin is full of great insights. However, there is a glaring contradiction: on the one hand he says the future will be dominated by narcissists (selfish, unempathetic, amoral etc) while on the other he says the future belongs to people with female traits (empathetic, caring, cooperative etc). Which one is it?"

    I like the title of this one!

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    This gets me thinking though. Could an entire culture become narcissistic or promote individual narcissism?
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    @ Whisper,

    Once again, I have to agree with flash 100% !

    Here's another thread with more stories and advise. Hope it helps: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ight=Sociopath

    Blessings on your journey, J

    Ditto times 100.
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    Nowadays the term "Narcissist" has become a commonly used word for what is called an "Emotional Vampire", or "Energy Vampire".

    Emotional vampires feed off of your positive energy while leaving you totally drained.
    When you’re feeling joyful, self-assured and confident, they try to come around to "deflate" you with put-downs, criticism or an underhanded tactic to sabotage or undermine you or your ideas.

    Interestingly, just as mythical vampires can “bite” their victims and turn them into vampires, I find that the longer you’re around a narcissist (emotional vampire), the more you start to pick up on some of their toxic habits and emotional states...... which was rather shocking when I experienced it.

    That’s why it’s important to get as far away as you possibly can, especially if you’re an empath who internalizes the emotions of others like a sponge.

    The last thing you need is to become so toxic yourself in response to these types that you forget where the predator begins and you end.

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    Quote Posted by Deux Corbeaux (here)
    Nowadays the term "Narcissist" has become a commonly used word for what is called an "Emotional Vampire", or "Energy Vampire".

    Emotional vampires feed off of your positive energy while leaving you totally drained.
    When you’re feeling joyful, self-assured and confident, they try to come around to "deflate" you with put-downs, criticism or an underhanded tactic to sabotage or undermine you or your ideas.

    Interestingly, just as mythical vampires can “bite” their victims and turn them into vampires, I find that the longer you’re around a narcissist (emotional vampire), the more you start to pick up on some of their toxic habits and emotional states...... which was rather shocking when I experienced it.

    That’s why it’s important to get as far away as you possibly can, especially if you’re an empath who internalizes the emotions of others like a sponge.

    The last thing you need is to become so toxic yourself in response to these types that you forget where the predator begins and you end.
    I posted a thread a while back that is similar to what's being discussed on this post. Hope it helps: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...hlight=Vampire

    Quote Psychic Vampire:

    Drains the positive emotional energy of others. They use any methods to fill the void they have deep within themselves. Best way to stop a psychic is to set emotional boundaries. Psychic Vampires require direction in life to learn how to become independent and not co dependent as they are so used to. Like an addict they can drain others rapidly and always have 1 main characteristic of being needy emotionally and requiring some form of reassurance. Psychic Vampires always attract each other as they love to be social. There is always a head Psychic Vampire that leads the others that they respect. Psychic Vampires should avoid psychic poisoners at all cost for they will lead the psychic vampires to feel more drained and desperate.

    Psychic Donor's:

    Like to provide reassurance for others by constantly giving and providing positive emotions. They must watch out for they can easily be drained dramatically of all their joy and feel almost dead. Psychic Donor's need to recognize that they have to also watch out and push themselves beyond their capabilities. Psychic Donor's naturally are optimistic about encouraging and helping others. Psychic Donor's should watch out for psychic poisoners as they will completely drain all of their energy and turn them into a Psychic Vampire to a certain extent yet they know its not right inside.



    Psychic Healers:

    Very rare to find they know the correct amount of positive emotional energy to provide to others. They have a safety switch inside that lets them know when they are being depleted. As a save yourself before its too late. Psychic Healers transfer their positive energy in exchange for the others negative ones then begin healing the negative one and turning it back into a positive energy. Psychic Healers can help Psychic Vampires and Psychic Donor's to decrease their need since they can pin point the source of the taint and reverse it. Psychic Healers really despise Psychic Poisoners since they can instantly spot them and know what they are doing is bring death to all instead of life for everyone including themselves.

    Psychic Poisoners:

    Are the worst of the worst, they can never give only take. Psychic Poisoners are almost completely deprived of all positive emotions except the one that is keeping them alive. They have a very negative outlook for others saying if I cant have it then no one can. Psychic Poisoners are very 2 faced one to get your guard down the other to keep you in a mirage while they are secretly stealing your positive emotions in exchange for their negative ones. By the time one realizes or escapes, the damage has already been done. Psychic Poisoners love Psychic Vampires to manipulate and use them as minions while feeding them poison to keep them under control. Psychic Poisoners are highly attracted to Psychic Donor's since they give selflessly always. Psychic Poisoners can't stand Psychic Healers since they force themselves to really question about how long do you really wish to feel really dead inside knowing that if others find out you'll really be alone to face yourself.
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    I felt on this video which I find quite quite interesting.

    Don't rely on its title for describing its content, because it does not.

    It described the difference between narcissistic (over narcissism), borderline personality disorder and Histrionic personality disorder, while comparing with PTSD disorders (post traumatic stress disorder).

    He shows how a narcissist, often attributed to men, often has its equivalent in borderline personalities, but that both are in fact different sides of narcissism. In fact, from what I see, the borderline would be more the covert narcissist type.

    He also tell how PTSD, which often seems like borderline symptoms, is in fact treatable and that you can have PTSD due to exposure to narcissism and psychopatic destruction.

    It is for those who already have some basis in psychology

    To listen to the end, good information up to the end

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    New talks on narcissism from Sam Vaknin
    Narcissism, the New Faith -
    Part 1: Distributed God and Human Sacrifice
    1/14/19


    Narcissism, the New Faith - Part 2: Missionary Cult and the End of Society


    Narcissism: The New Normal? (Mental Health Speak Show)

    Sam Vaknin
    Published on Jan 15, 2019

    "Host of Mental Health Speak Show, LaTonya Davison, asks Sam Vaknin about the formation of pathological narcissism in early childhood, whether narcissism is the new normal, explores Cold Therapy, and discusses narcissism as a new, global faith.

    LaTonya Davison is a social psychologist and LMSW (Licensed Master Social Worker).

    Sam Vaknin ( http://samvak.tripod.com/mediakit.html ) is the author of Malignant Self-love: Narcissism Revisited as well as many other books and ebooks about topics in psychology, relationships, philosophy, economics, international affairs, and award-winning short fiction.

    He is Visiting Professor of Psychology, Southern Federal University, Rostov-on-Don, Russia and Professor of Finance and Psychology in CIAPS (Centre for International Advanced and Professional Studies)."
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    Default Re: 20 Basic Tactics Used By Narcissists, Sociopaths And Psychopaths To manipulate And Silence A Prey

    First five minutes of the video, Dr Peterson describes how psychopathy detected in childhood (4 years old) is extremely stable over time and a very strong predictive of real problems makers later on in life.

    The student ask a long question unrelated to start with, then Dr Peterson starts with psychopathy, to go into IQ and people later on.


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    It would be interesting to hear a discussion between Peterson and Sam Vaknin about narcissism and how it is manifesting in the current controversies and media-driven politics!
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    It would be interesting to hear a discussion between Peterson and Sam Vaknin about narcissism and how it is manifesting in the current controversies and media-driven politics!
    yes it would

    Here Dr Peterson on psychopath, part of one of his courses at University of Toronto


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