The Truth about Corey Goode

[Clear Light]

Posted by we-R-one (here)
Wow, did you guys see Corey was on Ancient Aliens tonight? The Majestic Twelve? I'll try and find a link.....I can't believe they're giving him national air time with his credibility issue.

Season 12 Episode 9 air date 7-7-2017....yes it had to air with all the 7's...number of the god's....lol.

http://www.history.com/shows/ancient-aliens

I'm recording it, didn't get a chance to watch it yet.

Caught it on youtube, but I bet it won't last long, oops looks like this is a bad link:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=RJdFh2UAwgk

Oh, it seems as if the so-called "Alternatives" or "Conspiracy Theorists" are making headway in the Mainstream eh ?

But as for the existence of some sort of a "paper trail" I suppose documents such as the purported "Scorched MJ-12 Memo" (as mentioned in the show) do give some semblance of Credibility to this whole field of research !!!

BTW here's a link to the show if interested : WeTransfer (941 Mb)

[RunningDeer]

PART TWO - The Vinny Eastwood Show with Randy Maugans: Blue Avian Cult Dividing UFO Community

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=M7WWh0bk5U4

Published on Jul 8, 2017

Blue Avian Cult Dividing UFO Community, Randy Maugans
http://www.thevinnyeastwoodshow.com/
http://offplanetradio.com

Randy Maugans discusses themedia war with assholes in the UFO community:

The alternative media is shredding itself over the “Full disclosure now” UFO cult,
They’re attempting a “fakeover”,
George Noory is stumbling off to stage left,
David Wilcock needs a new act,
Roger Ramsaur (reported by the Dark Journalist to be a satanist) is doing comic books and puppet shows,
There’s a changing of the guard in the disclosure community!

It was Randy’s viral post on Facebook that was leaked to the Corey Goode camp and discombobulated the entire universe.

It also made Bill Ryan drag himself out of obscurity (after 4 years) to write an expose’ on the blue Avian alien cult & Corey Goode.

“Corey’s kids” is a marketing gimmick designed to bring young people into the UFO disclosure movement, using pop culture media like comics, CGI & other tools such as “Disclosure backpacks” full of goodness knows what goodies.

Even Jimmy Church is having a round table discussion on this topic,
asking the question: “Is the UFO community infiltrated?!”

[TargeT]

My final input on this ridiculous topic.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y5zS9fdGOV4

[Clear Light]

Posted by TargeT (here)
My final input on this ridiculous topic.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y5zS9fdGOV4

Oh, yes, surely there can be no doubt now (for those who have dug deep enough) that unfortunately there are too many unresolved contradictions, or "holes" in his story / testimony which are probably going to stay that way for the foreseeable future eh ?

Consider this from his first solo public presentation at the 2016 Mt Shasta Secret Space Program Conference (youtube video) where at approximately the 34 / 35 minute mark he says :

I myself was pretty shocked when I was brought to the Mars facility and I got the dog and pony show from the ICC and they showed sort of like slide shows, like this, but of all these different technologies of craft, components ... that they produce and trade to over 900 civilisations that ... and these civilisations mostly stop by here when they're travelling further distances to pick up supplies or replacements for technology that they're having problems with

And then compare it with what he says (at the 38 minute mark) in the most recent Ancient Aliens episode :

Currently in the Secret Space Programs we've been dealing with approximately 60 different non-terrestrial groups that have come here and some of those groups are interacting with the governments of the world right now

Well that's quite the difference in numeric scale isn't it ? By a factor of 15 no less !!!

It's discrepancies like this one that I find the most damning with regards to some sort of "internal consistency" because I would have to say in such instances it appears he is not speaking from personal experience ... but surely if you were going to "go public" with your potentially "world changing alien revelations" you would make sure you had a water-tight case eh ?

<sigh>

[TargeT]

Posted by Clear Light (here)
... but surely if you were going to "go public" with your potentially "world changing alien revelations" you would make sure you had a water-tight case eh ?
<sigh>

Anytime something is given airtime on TV it's very telling, this is a huge red flag in my research efforts... It means we are seeing collusion or a useful idiot being used; I think the latter is the case with Goode.

Posted by we-R-one (here)
Wow, did you guys see Corey was on Ancient Aliens tonight? The Majestic Twelve? I'll try and find a link.....I can't believe they're giving him national air time with his credibility issue.

Season 12 Episode 9 air date 7-7-2017....yes it had to air with all the 7's...number of the god's....lol.

http://www.history.com/shows/ancient-aliens

And here's that red flag.

[Shadowself]

TargeT, that was a great video, and well done. Thank you!

[Shadowself]

I have a question...has anybody here EVER heard Corey talk about his grandfather and Operation/Project White coat before April of 2017?

Has he ever talked about DNA research before it's discovery in 1953? Ever? Anybody? I would really like to know.

[Bluegreen]

Many are familiar with JRR Tolkien's The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, the writings of HG Wells such as The Time Machine and The Open Conspiracy, and Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek. These individuals' supposed memberships in 'secret societies' (Wells: The Fabian Society, Tolkien: The Inklings and The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, Roddenberry: The Council of Nine) are pointed to by conspiracy theorists as evidence of truth(s) being hidden within said fictional works due to the authors being privy to 'inside information'.

Recall: When Goode's initial 'conversations' with Christine (which I am very familiar with) were first made public by Avalon his story was backed by Bill Ryan's description of Goode as "a long-standing forum member of the highest integrity". For whatever reason, this story did in fact get off the ground.

Characterizations of Corey Goode range from a fiction writer spinning yarns to a military insider meeting with extraterrestrials on other planets, and many points in between. These points in between might be called 'disinformation'; as we know, disinformation is by definition half truth and half lies.

I'm curious: What parts of this story do forum members (and leaders) buy, if any? What is "The Half Truth about Corey Goode"?

[UfonautRadio]

I buy none of it. I honestly feel as though none of CG's story is true.

[norman]

Posted by UfonautRadio (here)
I buy none of it. I honestly feel as though none of CG's story is true.

He or someone might have gathered a few true bit's from the internet, here and there, but the pong rising from it ain't healthy for any of us IMO. It's the social dynamic engineering side of it that's the creepiest. I don't care what his story is. It actually seems secondary to the plot, now.

It's scooping up a lot of all too conveniently available disillusioned progressive wannabes and a whole other bunch running from imminent collapse of organised old European religion. Didn't I hear this was the last Pope?

Seriously, this is getting way too much like someone whipped out the script and declared it was time to make the move. Some people are hoping the Vatican is about to clean it's act up. I think that's way too optimistic. More like they are about to drop like the twin towers and flood the truther scene with refugees. They're good at that stunt. Look at Europe.

[Foxie Loxie]

Again! "Follow the Money"!!!

[norman]

Posted by Foxie Loxie (here)
Again! "Follow the Money"!!!

IF this is the magicians making their final move, I doubt it's even about the money an longer, except to put in the feed trough for the pigs muddying the grass patch for us all.

[Shannon]

Posted by UfonautRadio (here)
I buy none of it. I honestly feel as though none of CG's story is true.

Mod hat off...

I agree, and at this point I honestly can't even get behind the possibility that he was ever an mkultra/government tested intuitive, brainwashed to think his story is true. I think he's a dangerous con man and opportunist with a total disregard for the lives and the mental health of his fellow man.

He is a liar. And liars hold the whole world and everyone in it in contempt.

I think there are many people who have huge hearts and can't even fathom being lied to about information (lies) Corey was slinging. They don't want to call anyone a liar. Especially a possible victim.

The story isn't even amazing or original when it comes down to it... but he took total advantage of the kind, good and trusting people who want answers. That's how I thought he could get his out. Claim mind control and be a hero for a day with a long apology. Maybe he still could. Lol

[AutumnW]

Posted by UfonautRadio (here)
I buy none of it. I honestly feel as though none of CG's story is true.

Same. I want to add too that "useful idiot," in covert agency parlance, refers to those who pollute the water of genuine research, with really goofy material...but they are sincerely fantasy prone. Not their fault and it's just sad. But Goode has stolen material from another author and that makes him entirely culpable and raises suspicions of all sorts.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Bluegreen (here)
Recall: When Goode's initial 'conversations' with Christine (which I am very familiar with) were first made public by Avalon his story was backed by Bill Ryan's description of Goode as "a long-standing forum member of the highest integrity". For whatever reason, this story did in fact get off the ground.

Yes, and at that point he pretty much was "a long-standing forum member of the highest integrity". (And it all 'got off the ground' primarily because I did really quite a good job of that video, despite the poor raw material.)

What's barely been discussed (and almost forgotten about, even by me), is Christine's second interview with him, that was dreadful.

The material was dreadful. To borrow Richard Dolan's words (about Bill Tompkins' book), I would not want to be professionally associated with it. It was not possible to make anything looking even a little like a silk purse out of that sow's ear.

It's instructive to look closely at what happened then. Before Corey's first interview, he was genuinely quite modest and self-assuming. But after that was published, something changed.

It really did. Those Avalon members reading this who were around at the time may remember that well.

I declined to publish the second interview, and one other reason (which I cited) was that the audio quality was also dreadful. And it truly was — like the continuous crackle and hiss and pop from an old 1930s radio set.

I urged Corey to re-record it, which would have taken maybe a quick hour and a half. And I also counseled him that he should ideally use the opportunity of a re-record to build on the first interview, maybe answering questions that he'd received, or was aware of, during the few weeks in between. I was trying to help the guy.

But he became demanding and insistent and critical of me, and spent a full week, text-arguing with me about why I should publish it.... rather than spending a simple hour and a half re-recording it. Go figure. Suddenly, he had got massively headstrong and pushy, and was insisting he was right about everything he said.

(I'm told this happens in Hollywood, too, when a newborn young star, with fame and bright lights gone to their head, starts to try to push their Producer or Director around, thinking they know what's best. They rarely know anything at all, of course.)

That was also reflected in Corey's forum posts of the time, and all that was bound to end in tears — and it did, metaphorically speaking. After I'd NOT published that second interview (he eventually turned to Shane Bales/ 'The Ruiner', who has better audio cleanup software than I have, I think) — Corey left the forum within a month.

[Bluegreen]

And you were buying this raw material
Actually so was I
To this day I believe most of what he was saying in this particular interview
I may be wrong
But there you go

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Bluegreen (here)
And you were buying this raw material

Well, that's a value-laden way of putting it!

At that point there was no reason to flat-out dismiss his story (though some of it was extreme by any definition), or question his motives. Corey at that point had no hunger for fame that was evident, he wasn't trying to earn any money from it, there was nothing to suggest plagiarism, and he wasn't week-by-week or month-by-month embellishing his story.

All that came later.

[Chester]

From all I had observed through that time (the fall of 2014 and early 2015 - all that Bill said in this post fits exactly what I observed. What I find baffling by many of the folks that form a group of "ex-Avalonians" is that they seem to want to blame Bill for Corey's rise when in reality, Bill was the first one to sense Corey was a fraud (or something else... but certainly not a real whistle blower).

Yet even as late as January of 2015, when I told Christine in a Skype conversation that I was having my doubts about Corey, I asked her (because I saw her as a.) an authority and b.) a community insider), "Christine... I am having my doubts about Corey... please, tell me - do you think he's for real?" And her firm response was, she very much believed in him and his story. The weaker and less experienced being that I was at that time decided I should rely more on her opinion than my own intuition. Not her fault at all... mine. And later, she did tell me she thought his ego was getting to him - sometime in April of 2015 is my best guess... right around the time I helped her get the money she loaned Corey (from the PA donations account) paid back. By then everyone who had known Corey through those last several months (other than some holdouts at TOT and those who saw they could cash in by using Corey - like Wilcock) all had lost all trust in Goode. But he didn't care anyways as he still doesn't care.

[Bill Ryan]

Hi Folks — there's been an interesting development, and the game just got REALLY dirty.

A video has been uploaded anonymously showing the location of my home, in a remote, rural location in Ecuador.

It's faked, but it's professionally done.

There are no 'authorities' involved, but I'm not going to publicly reveal how I know this; and some of the details are correct but many are not, and I'm not going to reveal which is which, either.

The sole intention was for it to serve as a threat. Like: "Dude, we know where you live, so shut the f*** up."

The video, and the intention behind it, probably combine to constitute a criminal act.

All they wanted was for me to see it, and to be very afraid. (But, they don't know me very well! And they also have no idea how very well I can defend myself if the privacy of my home is unlawfully and physically breached.)

If it also smears me, then they have an optional bonus.

Many have already suggested to me that Roger Ramsauer is behind this, of course. Corey Goode and his camp are now busy promoting this everywhere. That says something about anyone who spreads this around. So, as I said, the game just got REALLY, REALLY dirty.

It's late at night here (3 am), so I'll not say more at the moment. I'll likely make a major public statement tomorrow or at the weekend.

I'm not very happy for people to know where I live, but I'm VERY happy for the world to know about the lowlife, degrading, threatening, professional-quality, well-funded, invasion-of-privacy, attempted smear.

[Bill Ryan]

This conversation may also be worth reading carefully — with someone who is in what some have called the "Goode-Ramsauer camp". It's edited in one or two places to protect the woman's anonymity.

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Anon: I was told that some of this information was well-known to someone close to you, and Corey had already himself long known some of this information.

I was also told a while ago that "Gonzales" confirmed you're not any kind of "agent" to be worried about, and that it sort of confused Corey to find out you're a regular guy with honest intentions. But that DJ himself was someone to be concerned about because of his connections. I forget the exact wording though, if “agent” was used.

Corey is not aware that I'm in touch with you. But I hope that we can be in communication in some form. It's really looking like a mess.

Bill: Thanks. This is now getting really dirty. The video is faked, of course, but was done professionally by someone with assets and ability behind them.

The person who knows most of that slice of the information and imagery which is correct (including possessing three images included on the video that I've NEVER posted publicly, but that she had access to, and I can't think of who else has) is Christine Anderson, my ex-wife, who originally interviewed Corey in Sept-Oct 2014.

She also of course knows where the house is (and yes, that's my house). There's a very compelling case that she has provided the images and some information, or what she thinks is some information, and it's hard to imagine how she has done this without full knowledge of exactly what was happening or how this would be used.

Her current partner, an Avalon member, interestingly requested a sabbatical just two days ago. That's a little like leaving the building just before a planted bomb goes off. (Did you ever watch Designated Survivor? ) He has now been unsubscribed.

My advice to you, which is genuine: it may be smart to gently step away from this, while making peace with all parties. This is now ugly, illegal, and dirty. Anyone who's got naively caught up in all this might be well-advised to protect themselves.

And I do believe you've been naive. I don't know Ramsauer personally, but I do know Corey, and he's unscrupulous. If that's not believable to you, I respect that, but I do promise you you'll find out sooner or later for yourself and to your own satisfaction.