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    You know I stand with the folks who don't believe a word of these threat stories. When you've really been threatened, you don't make hay out of it. My advice to anyone ever finds their life threatened: Report it to the police ASAP. Don't play games with that. This is why I have trouble with Wilcock's claims. Isn't he a wealthy guy from his bestselling books? Seems to me he would not waste a minute reporting any suspected attempt on his life and get a bodyguard, if this were true. I don't want to see an auto repair receipt, I want to see the police report. He seems to stop just shy of that step. That's a commitment I think he's reluctant to make because it's simply not true. Has anyone ever suggested to him that pranksters might be calling him? Has he ever acknowledged that possibility? He reacts like a sissy after someone has put a rubber spider on his shoulder so I could see some jokesters calling him up and acting like evil Cabal MiB, "Watch yourself, Wilcock...We've got the Eye of Sauron on you...Take the deal or it's curtains for you, Davey Boy. Yeah, dat's it! Coitins!"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9heYnC-CX0
    Well that is the rub eh? Why has he not contacted the authorities? If someone is trying to kill him that would be the first thing he should have done! Fiction....not even good fiction!

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    We usually find Corey and David and Church etc deflecting criticism by referring to the flimsiest of arguments made against them, which are the Satanism and Nazi ones (with all due respect to Daniel) and never the most substantial arguments, which are CG's fraudulent work history, the lack of evidence, his history on Avalon, and now this weird video with the obviously planted bullet on his window sill etc

    The Nazi one has been greatly exaggerated by them in order make us look silly and carelessly accusatory. But it barely got any play here at all. Just a mention or 2 because Corey had referenced a white supremacy site, correct? And the Satanism stuff - which was, to be fair - based on some very interesting connections, isn't what we are discussing here on a daily basis; it's all the other stuff referenced in my first paragraph.

    That's like a car thief - despite all the strong evidence showing he stole cars - denying any sort of responsibility for his actions because one accuser suggested he was a homophobe("i'm not a homophobe, how could I have possibly stolen those vehicles???").

    And now they're playing the ol phony death threat game in a lame attempt to lend gravity to their bizarre lies(it would be a shame if someone didn't arrange a drinking game that called for all involved to slug a beer every time Dark Journalist used the the word "bizarre" when describing Corey). I can't help but envision 2 goofy characters in one those acme cartoons, with sullen hangdog faces, peering despondently into an empty burlap bag labelled "silly bag of tricks"...
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    Just to keep on track, my beef with Corey Goode and David Wilcock is how they have increasingly promoted themselves and their 'whistleblower' associates as the voices and faces of SSP research etc. They say it, their associates say it, as well, and it's not true. Not to the audience for the topic.

    Last night I heard Michael Salla tell George Noory that the MUFON audience rejected the SSP topic because of its negative response to him and Goode and Basiago and Tompkins. It was either an ignorant statement or it was flat out BS spin. I tweeted Salla and the show almost immediately to clarify to both that the MUFON audience rejected the whistleblowers and NOT the SSP topic itself. But this is how Salla spins what happened in Vegas -- despite Dolan being on that panel with all the clowns and subsequently reporting what a large majority of attendees told him. This sort of crap gets me riled up because it is patently dishonest -- and I suggest Salla knows it but doesn't care. Anyway, the truth is in the public record when you listen to Dolan's interviews and watch the panel discussion. Shame on Salla for the dishonest spin.

    I would also like to emphasize again that I do not have a problem with any media projects Goode and Wilcock make happen. Comic books, TV shows, movies, go for it. My problem with them is pushing their narrative as fact without providing ANY evidence to ANY legitimate degree. And if serious SSP research is going to make any real progress, those of us in it must be vocal when we see circus ringmasters mining data and lifting memes and themes from people who have done hard work to establish their work, especially when it gets bastardized into Screw Age claptrap by promoters who are pretending to be 'in resonance' with their audience's philosophy.

    The problem as I see it is a clique who has set its cronies up as The Authorities on everything, and anyone else's work is simply theirs to harvest to keep their machines going. This is where our society has gone wrong with this 'It's Not The Product, It's The Salesman' mentality. When it comes to stuff like SSP research, or any alternative or paranormal research, it MUST be the product, the salesman's personality be damned. I have personally experienced a particular researcher who is nearly a complete asshole, in my experience of him, but I frequently reference his books and refer readers to them. His jackass attitude has nothing to do with whether his research is worthy or not -- and it is some of the best. This is a peeve of mine because I spent years in a profession where you are thrown together operationally with a wide range of personalities to do a very serious job and whether you want to drink beer after work with the guy or not, you respect his presence for his contribution to what you're there to do. I met guys I liked personally who were not the best to have in the field when it counted. The same applies in this field. Unfortunately, the clique mentality is rooted deeply in the biggest media outlets in our biz. Why is this an issue? Because if all the majority of the audience hears or sees is their clique, then they don't see the very good researchers or hear the undiluted concepts and theories. In the case we're dealing with, the SSP subject is being tainted for many people by its repeated and loud invocation by clique storytellers with NOTHING to back up their claims that keep getting wilder by the day.

    Anyway, I again emphasize that my beef isn't Goode and Wilcock developing media projects, and I would never begrudge anyone making as much money as they can on a successful project, my issue is one with their credibility and honesty. I know what it's like to have trolls hate you and trash you. I've experienced it. But there's a difference between that, honest critique, some public mockery and a concentrated campaign to destroy someone's life. I am not and have never been a paid operative against them, nor am I some zombified puppet being used for such an agenda.

    The best way to fight the clique is to simply establish a parallel community that disregards their brand of nonsense and gives the serious guys the podium and we all go about our business. That is exactly what Jeroen and the guys who put on the SSP cons in San Mateo and Bastrop were doing when Goode's shills kept showing up and pushing their agenda. Thankfully, they got shut down -- by the other attendees.

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    Well said. The "beef" is with ruining what little credibility the subject had. This responsibility also comes down upon the leaders in the field, that for the most part have decided to sit this one out. That is a shame. Silly frauds in the past didn't have mainstream corporate radio protection. The marketing machines, etc. This is where lies the exposure overload with this Gaia cast.

    I have to thank the ones like this gentleman, that have decided to say enough is enough.

    BTW, when is the next meeting of the Dark Alliance???
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    Thank you Walter, very much understood and appreciated. There is a campaign by this group to shut down and shut up anyone who speaks out. There is no conspiracy against their self-professed "Alliance" (Star Wars, really?!), it's just an honest reaction by people who do not believe the story without plausible facts evident to even support it. I find it most unfortunate that circumstances are spun in order to create an invisible enemy, to come up with branding such as "Dark Alliance" and to market failing brakes as an attempt on one's life.

    The more their words are tossed about to divide and conquer the easier it is for people to see who they are dealing with. This type of sensationalism is the stuff of current films, profiting talk shows, and well spun intrigue to keep an audience addicted. It works, it pays their bills, and may get them another season with Gaia. In the end truth will win out. Truth isn't sexy and most of the time it's not very entertaining. We need to keep in mind that people are programed to respond to sensationalist drivel from birth. Research does not need an audience.

    What will happen to the field? Well, there will be some who stay and continue to produce sensationalist items to ensnare and intrigue the viewers who are in this for the "feel good" aspect. Then those of us who practice true compassion will continue on with our research and continue to discuss our findings. In the end, we will still be here amassing a large body of verifiable work, critique, and hone in our sound practice through the use of truth as a guiding tool. We are not going anywhere. That's a fact. SSP research has a long way to go and the quick fix with all the quick answers is not going to last for all fads eventually wither to a fickle audience.

    Walter, I look forward to reading your book when it comes out. Thank you for doing the good work. The good work is long, arduous, and painstaking. However it's worth it in the end. Keep on fighting the good fight! I'll be sure to give you an honest critique when you are finished

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    Here is just released, Jay Weidner at the CG fest.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB1y...re=youtu.be&a=

    Jay gets right to it regarding DJ and BR in the first minute... Thank goodness we have Jay to show us what quality journalism looks like.

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    Quote Posted by UfonautRadio (here)
    Here is just released, Jay Weidner at the CG fest.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB1y...re=youtu.be&a=

    Jay gets right to it regarding DJ and BR in the first minute... Thank goodness we have Jay to show us what quality journalism looks like.
    Jay Weidner - Eclipse of Disclosure

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    Just to keep on track, my beef with Corey Goode and David Wilcock is how they have increasingly promoted themselves and their 'whistleblower' associates as the voices and faces of SSP research etc. They say it, their associates say it, as well, and it's not true. Not to the audience for the topic.

    Last night I heard Michael Salla tell George Noory that the MUFON audience rejected the SSP topic because of its negative response to him and Goode and Basiago and Tompkins. It was either an ignorant statement or it was flat out BS spin. I tweeted Salla and the show almost immediately to clarify to both that the MUFON audience rejected the whistleblowers and NOT the SSP topic itself. But this is how Salla spins what happened in Vegas -- despite Dolan being on that panel with all the clowns and subsequently reporting what a large majority of attendees told him. This sort of crap gets me riled up because it is patently dishonest -- and I suggest Salla knows it but doesn't care. Anyway, the truth is in the public record when you listen to Dolan's interviews and watch the panel discussion. Shame on Salla for the dishonest spin.

    I would also like to emphasize again that I do not have a problem with any media projects Goode and Wilcock make happen. Comic books, TV shows, movies, go for it. My problem with them is pushing their narrative as fact without providing ANY evidence to ANY legitimate degree. And if serious SSP research is going to make any real progress, those of us in it must be vocal when we see circus ringmasters mining data and lifting memes and themes from people who have done hard work to establish their work, especially when it gets bastardized into Screw Age claptrap by promoters who are pretending to be 'in resonance' with their audience's philosophy.

    The problem as I see it is a clique who has set its cronies up as The Authorities on everything, and anyone else's work is simply theirs to harvest to keep their machines going. This is where our society has gone wrong with this 'It's Not The Product, It's The Salesman' mentality. When it comes to stuff like SSP research, or any alternative or paranormal research, it MUST be the product, the salesman's personality be damned. I have personally experienced a particular researcher who is nearly a complete asshole, in my experience of him, but I frequently reference his books and refer readers to them. His jackass attitude has nothing to do with whether his research is worthy or not -- and it is some of the best. This is a peeve of mine because I spent years in a profession where you are thrown together operationally with a wide range of personalities to do a very serious job and whether you want to drink beer after work with the guy or not, you respect his presence for his contribution to what you're there to do. I met guys I liked personally who were not the best to have in the field when it counted. The same applies in this field. Unfortunately, the clique mentality is rooted deeply in the biggest media outlets in our biz. Why is this an issue? Because if all the majority of the audience hears or sees is their clique, then they don't see the very good researchers or hear the undiluted concepts and theories. In the case we're dealing with, the SSP subject is being tainted for many people by its repeated and loud invocation by clique storytellers with NOTHING to back up their claims that keep getting wilder by the day.

    Anyway, I again emphasize that my beef isn't Goode and Wilcock developing media projects, and I would never begrudge anyone making as much money as they can on a successful project, my issue is one with their credibility and honesty. I know what it's like to have trolls hate you and trash you. I've experienced it. But there's a difference between that, honest critique, some public mockery and a concentrated campaign to destroy someone's life. I am not and have never been a paid operative against them, nor am I some zombified puppet being used for such an agenda.

    The best way to fight the clique is to simply establish a parallel community that disregards their brand of nonsense and gives the serious guys the podium and we all go about our business. That is exactly what Jeroen and the guys who put on the SSP cons in San Mateo and Bastrop were doing when Goode's shills kept showing up and pushing their agenda. Thankfully, they got shut down -- by the other attendees.
    Walter, why did you disable comments on your video??

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    Quote Posted by UfonautRadio (here)
    Here is just released, Jay Weidner at the CG fest.

    Jay gets right to it regarding DJ and BR in the first minute... Thank goodness we have Jay to show us what quality journalism looks like.
    I just wrote to Jay:

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    Hi there, Jay — Many greetings to you.

    Just watching the video of your recent 'Eclipse' presentation. You were correct, I think, to point out that I'd written that Corey hadn't been vetted.

    What I'd meant, of course, was that Corey hadn't been properly vetted. My apologies for my slight sloppiness in language.

    I totally promise, I have no animosity towards you. As you know, from the conversation we had two years ago, I hold you in high regard and have always admired your work and what you have always stood for.

    I do profoundly believe, though, that you (with others) have made some serious errors of judgment, and have indirectly caused great damage to our community. I do hope that you might give that some thought.

    History will have the last word — at some point! — as it always eventually does. It's also possible that that point will be reached sooner rather than later.

    Again, I would like to say that I recognize that you always mean the best.
    My sincere regards ~ Bill

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    Bill, I wish I had your writing skills and amazing tone. You are truly a leader in the field that we can be proud of.

    Class act BR.

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    Quote Posted by UfonautRadio (here)
    Here is just released, Jay Weidner at the CG fest.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB1y...re=youtu.be&a=

    Jay gets right to it regarding DJ and BR in the first minute... Thank goodness we have Jay to show us what quality journalism looks like.

    Yep, thank goodness for Jay. He's a "real" journalist. What would we do without him?

    And the audience members sounds pretty enthusiastic too, I have to say. Both of them.

    If Jay is so certain Corey is telling the truth, why not make a lie detector test a requirement for employment? Real simple. We could end all the speculation today.

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    Jay weidner can barley speak English clearly, and I'm supposed to bank on him being some shining example of journalism? Lol yeah ok.

    Bill thompkins collaboration with Corey means very little to me and many others as well. Why did goofballs clap for that in the audience? So silly.

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    Here is just released, Jay Weidner at the CG fest.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB1y...re=youtu.be&a=

    Jay gets right to it regarding DJ and BR in the first minute... Thank goodness we have Jay to show us what quality journalism looks like.

    Yep, thank goodness for Jay. He's a "real" journalist. What would we do without him?

    And the audience members sounds pretty enthusiastic too, I have to say. Both of them.

    If Jay is so certain Corey is telling the truth, why not make a lie detector test a requirement for employment? Real simple. We could end all the speculation today.
    Mike. The man said he calls people, he asks them questions and then looks at it from different facets. Then he makes a decision on what he believes.

    Boom. Journalism.

    Give the guy a Pulitzer.

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    Because TROLLS ARE A WASTE OF TIME. That's why, lol. I know you guys know where to reach me to make comments, so I just avoid the noise on the YouTube channel.

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    Just to keep on track, my beef with Corey Goode and David Wilcock is how they have increasingly promoted themselves and their 'whistleblower' associates as the voices and faces of SSP research etc. They say it, their associates say it, as well, and it's not true. Not to the audience for the topic.

    Last night I heard Michael Salla tell George Noory that the MUFON audience rejected the SSP topic because of its negative response to him and Goode and Basiago and Tompkins. It was either an ignorant statement or it was flat out BS spin. I tweeted Salla and the show almost immediately to clarify to both that the MUFON audience rejected the whistleblowers and NOT the SSP topic itself. But this is how Salla spins what happened in Vegas -- despite Dolan being on that panel with all the clowns and subsequently reporting what a large majority of attendees told him. This sort of crap gets me riled up because it is patently dishonest -- and I suggest Salla knows it but doesn't care. Anyway, the truth is in the public record when you listen to Dolan's interviews and watch the panel discussion. Shame on Salla for the dishonest spin.

    I would also like to emphasize again that I do not have a problem with any media projects Goode and Wilcock make happen. Comic books, TV shows, movies, go for it. My problem with them is pushing their narrative as fact without providing ANY evidence to ANY legitimate degree. And if serious SSP research is going to make any real progress, those of us in it must be vocal when we see circus ringmasters mining data and lifting memes and themes from people who have done hard work to establish their work, especially when it gets bastardized into Screw Age claptrap by promoters who are pretending to be 'in resonance' with their audience's philosophy.

    The problem as I see it is a clique who has set its cronies up as The Authorities on everything, and anyone else's work is simply theirs to harvest to keep their machines going. This is where our society has gone wrong with this 'It's Not The Product, It's The Salesman' mentality. When it comes to stuff like SSP research, or any alternative or paranormal research, it MUST be the product, the salesman's personality be damned. I have personally experienced a particular researcher who is nearly a complete asshole, in my experience of him, but I frequently reference his books and refer readers to them. His jackass attitude has nothing to do with whether his research is worthy or not -- and it is some of the best. This is a peeve of mine because I spent years in a profession where you are thrown together operationally with a wide range of personalities to do a very serious job and whether you want to drink beer after work with the guy or not, you respect his presence for his contribution to what you're there to do. I met guys I liked personally who were not the best to have in the field when it counted. The same applies in this field. Unfortunately, the clique mentality is rooted deeply in the biggest media outlets in our biz. Why is this an issue? Because if all the majority of the audience hears or sees is their clique, then they don't see the very good researchers or hear the undiluted concepts and theories. In the case we're dealing with, the SSP subject is being tainted for many people by its repeated and loud invocation by clique storytellers with NOTHING to back up their claims that keep getting wilder by the day.

    Anyway, I again emphasize that my beef isn't Goode and Wilcock developing media projects, and I would never begrudge anyone making as much money as they can on a successful project, my issue is one with their credibility and honesty. I know what it's like to have trolls hate you and trash you. I've experienced it. But there's a difference between that, honest critique, some public mockery and a concentrated campaign to destroy someone's life. I am not and have never been a paid operative against them, nor am I some zombified puppet being used for such an agenda.

    The best way to fight the clique is to simply establish a parallel community that disregards their brand of nonsense and gives the serious guys the podium and we all go about our business. That is exactly what Jeroen and the guys who put on the SSP cons in San Mateo and Bastrop were doing when Goode's shills kept showing up and pushing their agenda. Thankfully, they got shut down -- by the other attendees.
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    Because TROLLS ARE A WASTE OF TIME. That's why, lol. I know you guys know where to reach me to make comments, so I just avoid the noise on the YouTube channel.[COLOR="red"]

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    Shannon hit the nail on the head regarding Jay's video: using Bill Tompkins as a verification for Corey Goode????!!!!????
    Is he KIDDING???

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    Jay weidner can barley speak English clearly, and I'm supposed to bank on him being some shining example of journalism? Lol yeah ok.

    Bill thompkins collaboration with Corey means very little to me and many others as well. Why did goofballs clap for that in the audience? So silly.

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    Here is just released, Jay Weidner at the CG fest.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB1y...re=youtu.be&a=

    Jay gets right to it regarding DJ and BR in the first minute... Thank goodness we have Jay to show us what quality journalism looks like.

    Yep, thank goodness for Jay. He's a "real" journalist. What would we do without him?

    And the audience members sounds pretty enthusiastic too, I have to say. Both of them.

    If Jay is so certain Corey is telling the truth, why not make a lie detector test a requirement for employment? Real simple. We could end all the speculation today.
    Mike. The man said he calls people, he asks them questions and then looks at it from different facets. Then he makes a decision on what he believes.

    Boom. Journalism.

    Give the guy a Pulitzer.

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    This might be of interest to some. Corey Good and Wilcock are mentioned in the last quarter. Sorry if this has already been posted.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    I just wrote to Jay:

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    ...

    Just watching the video of your recent 'Eclipse' presentation. You were correct, I think, to point out that I'd written that Corey hadn't been vetted.

    What I'd meant, of course, was that Corey hadn't been properly vetted. My apologies for my slight sloppiness in language.

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    My left brain took Jay to mean, when he said that he vetted Corey's information both by comparing that information with what he, Jay, knew, and with what Bill Thompkins knew, is that Jay found significant overlapping and compatible information between the three of them.

    If I were a betting man, and a wealthier man than I am now, I'd wager a princely sum that neither Jay Weidner nor Bill Thompkins could or did vet, from their own experience or research, the stories that Corey tells as to how Corey came to be involved in this, such as Corey's claim to have participated in one, now three, "twenty and back" programs, or Corey's claim to be the earthly ambassador for some blue avians.

    Rather what I presume Jay vetted Corey on, in discussions with both Corey and Thompkins, was information and claims that were "out there", available to someone who first studied the field, as Kristin and I have shown that Corey did, at least with his several years of research on the wealth of material posted here on ProjectAvalon.net, before Corey "went public."

    I am suggesting that Jay Weidner is guilty of "confirmation bias" ... asking the questions to which a well studied apprentice of the field might know some relevant details of the "the right answer", as Corey does indeed know.

    Corey's actual past is hardly known to us. I find Corey's "twenty and back" and "blue avian ambassador" claims to be outlandish with not only zero evidence and no plausible mechanism, but also to contain built in excuses for why there can be no such evidence.

    Those claims, Jay Weidner, I presume you did not, and could not, have vetted, for I presume with the highest degree of confidence I can obtain, that these claims are fundamentally false.

    Jay: you, sir, in this matter at least, are no journalist.
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    Wow, i kind of like them

    Quite simple, look inside, not outside

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    This might be of interest to some. Corey Good and Wilcock are mentioned in the last quarter. Sorry if this has already been posted.
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    [QUOTE=Flash;1175762]Wow, i kind of like them

    Quite simple, look inside, not outside [QUOTE]

    Yes as my friend said for many of us their revelations are not news...but it is great that this message is getting more awareness.

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    A message to the joker brokers of make-believe, Dr Salla and Mr Church, along with their showmen, Mr CG and Mr DW, this a very simple example what the term whistleblower means :

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