Bill Ryan - Talks to Dark Journalist

[Ernie Nemeth]

Wilcock is not himself. Maybe he is only tired but...I see the same odd energy around Noory, Braden, Howe and Meredith. Something is going on over at Gaia, I am convinced of it. I have no framework to put it in, though. Wilcock is the worst. He looks like he is possessed.

[Innocent Warrior]

Posted by section9 (here)
The trouble with David Wilcock, whom I have been dismissing as a carnival barker, is that Bill Ryan worked with him and Kerry Cassidy on the in-depth interview with Pete Peterson and, as you will recall from the conversation with Daniel Liszt, Wilcock himself has published some important works in alternative research. Wilcock's involvement with Goode is quite troubling.

I just am at a loss of what to think about Wilcock, unless he has succumbed to that "UFO disease" that Bill mentioned in Part I of his interview with DJ.

Hi section9,

I had a bit of a look at Wilcock and his work early on when I began researching and there was nothing I saw that interested me at all, so I don't know Wilcock's work and it is of zero importance to me (I'm not surprised about his Goode/Avians circus). I understand what you're saying here but I'm coming from a different perspective. I look at all the genuine, high quality, truth seeking, highly interesting people (I'm referring mostly to the people of which are basically unknowns btw, like members of this forum, for example), and for the vast majority of them, their work isn't noted as of significant importance, yet Wilcock will never be half the person they are, not in my eyes. That's where I'm coming from.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by section9 (here)
I just am at a loss of what to think about Wilcock, unless he has succumbed to that "UFO disease" that Bill mentioned in Part I of his interview with DJ.

Yes, I think this is exactly what's happened. His judgment is now way out of balance, affected/influenced by a much higher public profile now. It's the celebrity thing — a real ego trap, for anyone.

As Richard Dolan has said (very indirectly), here: David Wilcock is not actually a researcher any more.

[onawah]

He was providing a good service for awhile earlier on with his connecting-the-dots kind of research and helping a lot of people to awaken, but being too good at that game seems to make for concerted attacks from the cabal, and an adoring audience is no protection from that, it would seem.

[silverlight]

I think I agree on what Bill Ryan said on Goode! Once it becomes a source of income, and the only way to rely on keeping paying the rent and there is no new information to give, except ( my words), a trip with Ayawhasca, it becomes a matter of survival once they get a contract that requires them to keep producing! I never liked he never flat out denied being the reincarnation of E. Cayce, or at least show some humility. It's too bad.

[neutronstar]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by section9 (here)
I just am at a loss of what to think about Wilcock, unless he has succumbed to that "UFO disease" that Bill mentioned in Part I of his interview with DJ.

Yes, I think this is exactly what's happened. His judgment is now way out of balance, affected/influenced by a much higher public profile now. It's the celebrity thing — a real ego trap, for anyone.

As Richard Dolan has said (very indirectly), here: David Wilcock is not actually a researcher any more.

So what is your view on Pete Peterson, Bill. David has said that Cory and Pete are telling him the same story. Early on I thought that Pete might be someone credible, but when I found out that he was one of David's sources, I began to question his credibility. It really wouldn't surprise me if he is a dis-info agent. In that 3 part interview you did with him, my impression of him was very narcissistic when it came to intelligence.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by neutronstar (here)
So what is your view on Pete Peterson, Bill.

Posted here last month.

• https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1143964

(Peterson and Corey Goode certainly are not 'telling the same story'.)

[neutronstar]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by neutronstar (here)
So what is your view on Pete Peterson, Bill.

Posted here last month.

• https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1143964

(Peterson and Corey Goode certainly are not 'telling the same story'.)

Thanks, I didn't see that thread. If they aren't telling the same story then someone should tell that to David. That was his claim, and my fault for believing anything that comes out his mouth these days.

[section9]

Posted by Rachel (here)

Posted by section9 (here)
The trouble with David Wilcock, whom I have been dismissing as a carnival barker, is that Bill Ryan worked with him and Kerry Cassidy on the in-depth interview with Pete Peterson and, as you will recall from the conversation with Daniel Liszt, Wilcock himself has published some important works in alternative research. Wilcock's involvement with Goode is quite troubling.

I just am at a loss of what to think about Wilcock, unless he has succumbed to that "UFO disease" that Bill mentioned in Part I of his interview with DJ.

Hi section9,

I had a bit of a look at Wilcock and his work early on when I began researching and there was nothing I saw that interested me at all, so I don't know Wilcock's work and it is of zero importance to me (I'm not surprised about his Goode/Avians circus). I understand what you're saying here but I'm coming from a different perspective. I look at all the genuine, high quality, truth seeking, highly interesting people (I'm referring mostly to the people of which are basically unknowns btw, like members of this forum, for example), and for the vast majority of them, their work isn't noted as of significant importance, yet Wilcock will never be half the person they are, not in my eyes. That's where I'm coming from.

Many thanks for this observation. I hadn't taken a look at DW's research, so I was going by what Bill had said in the interview with Daniel Liszt.

I must say that what reputation Wilcock did have in the Alternative Research community has been put at some risk, to say the least.

[section9]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by neutronstar (here)
So what is your view on Pete Peterson, Bill.

Posted here last month.

• https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1143964

(Peterson and Corey Goode certainly are not 'telling the same story'.)

BTW, I noticed that myself, as if Pete Peterson was being used as a "call to authority" by Wilcock. Not sure if it was with Peterson's consent, btw.

[7alon]

Okay, so what in the hell is going on? This is like an itch I can't scratch. There is something big going on behind the scenes, I just don't understand it. Are you trying to help us figure it out by ourselves Bill? Is this one of those situations we have to figure out because nobody can come out and say 'it'?

Haha sorry I had to say something. I have sensed something big for a while now, but it wasn't in the spotlight as much as it is now. Does anybody else get the feeling big news is approaching?

I'm considering a sabbatical and doing A LOT of reading. I think I'm gonna need it.

[abmqa]

Modwiz comments on part two of Bill Ryan - Talks to Dark Journalist. He does drift off subject a tad bit, however still worth a listen for the very interesting subjects he comments on. He continues to impress me.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=C-jDtmNxwOU

[RunningDeer]

Posted by abmqa (here)
Modwiz comments on part two of Bill Ryan - Talks to Dark Journalist. He does drift off subject a tad bit, however still worth a listen for the very interesting subjects he comments on. He continues to impress me.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=C-jDtmNxwOU

Thanks, abmqa. This is Sylvie Ivanovaa's 'Atlantis playlist #1-5' mentioned @ 24:48 or a more extensive playlist here.

[abmqa]

Posted by RunningDeer (here)

Posted by abmqa (here)
Modwiz comments on part two of Bill Ryan - Talks to Dark Journalist. He does drift off subject a tad bit, however still worth a listen for the very interesting subjects he comments on. He continues to impress me.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=C-jDtmNxwOU

Thanks, abmqa. This is Sylvie Ivanovaa's 'Atlantis playlist #1-5' mentioned @ 24:48 or a more extensive playlist here.

Ahh, Yes!! Thank you very much for the links. I'm looking forward to viewing this!!

[TargeT]

Posted by RunningDeer (here)
Thanks, abmqa. This is Sylvie Ivanovaa's 'Atlantis playlist #1-5' mentioned @ 24:48 or a more extensive playlist here.

I went through that material yesterday.. very fascinating.... I always knew history was "revisionist" touched... but not to the extent that she shows.


Mod has a bit more to say about the situation:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vwQy04pImp8

[RunningDeer]

Mod has a bit more to say about the situation:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vwQy04pImp8

Thanks, TargeT. I caught this earlier this morning and his other upload. Yes, I understand Modwiz’s point of view. A part of me feels that same in terms of me ease up on the brouhaha at least for myself. (i.e, The Blob video)

To the second point that Corey needs to take care of his family. Yes, I get that too. But I am more concerned for my family and the greater one that are waking to the next part of their journey. They’ve got a lot to catch up on. Humanity doesn’t have the luxury of endless rabbit holes, PsyOpers and their toys, nor the inorganic feeding frenzy.

*****

I'm guessing this is the 20 minutes video Modwiz referenced.

@ 4:42

Interviewer: “You’re in the process of creating a media empire so you can share your message on a larger scale….” “How did you find the courage to actually commit to creating a business seeded in higher consciousness of all things?”

Corey Goode: “Well, interestingly enough it wasn’t even on my radar a year ago. I sort of pushed to start bringing the story, well the information of oneness, of raising your consciousness outside of this little esoteric community. Basically, to stop preaching to the choir. And to find ways to bring seeds to the consciousness of wider super consciousness.”

“…so if we can form basically a publishing company and a media company…”

Spiritual Biz Magazine: Corey Goode

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xQ9sqTVpBt8

*****

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by RunningDeer (here)
Thanks, abmqa. This is Sylvie Ivanovaa's 'Atlantis playlist #1-5' mentioned @ 24:48 or a more extensive playlist here.

I went through that material yesterday.. very fascinating.... I always knew history was "revisionist" touched... but not to the extent that she shows.

I downloaded the first five of Sylvie Ivanovaa’s series yesterday. It’s on my to-do list today. I’m looking forward to watching them.

[UfonautRadio]

I don't see the point in bringing up a mystery video about CG when it probably doesn't exist. That looks bad to me. Any person with 2 cents can see that both these guys are charlatans. It's an insult to the field to allow them to speak anywhere. Shame on the radio community for not joining forces on this one.

[UfonautRadio]

This interview was embarrassing.

From Bill: which one?

[UfonautRadio]

The Spiritual Biz interview was the one I was talking about. I loved Bill's interview.

From Bill:

[Mike]

I agree entirely with ya there Paula.

I like the Modwiz video. I enjoy his thoughtful takes. I've taken an interest in his other videos too, which are all quite good (except for this one where he's talking to this drugged out simpleton who obsessively rubs his dog's head for the first 10 mins of the video. I couldnt watch it)

....but he's a little too lenient on Corey imho. The attitude there is a little too zen for me. There is room in my mind to accomodate some of what he's saying, but it feels slightly out of balance. I can appreciate this notion of Corey as product, and the buyers as marketplace..spending their attention and money how they see fit..but only up to a point. It's just not as simple as that. It's a rigged game. He has money and marketing machinery behind him, while authentic researchers like Dolan get drowned in his wake. Its not as simple as a Dad trying to.provide for his family; there are so many ramifications here...including compromising other peoples ability to provide for their families as well. And so so much more. It's a dangerous game corey is playing here..