Explosive report from Veterans Today on Trump?

[silverlight]

I couldn't finish reading it. I was going to throw up. Felt sick. What Gordon Duff reveals here, is a subterranean entanglement highway of the lowest pit on earth.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/05...-than-we-knew/

Where was the media before he got elected? Afraid of the Mercers? Probably. Who is now related to Brexit says The Guardian in an article today, as well. The same family who funded Trump's election. And the rest of this cabal. Unbelievable! I don't know how he is still alive, Gordon Duff, I mean. Duff's article hasn't hit the news though, that I know of. It probably never will.
The Netherlands showed a special documentary on their TV about our President just a few days ago. But I don't know what was in there. I wonder if it's related to this. Gordon has some guts. Just one thing. Please do not make the mistake of mistaking all of that religion together. There are different religious groups within the same religion. And all along the media has been telling us: " The Russians."! Well, apparently they are not just Russians. And Putin might not even be related at all! Don't know!

[Bill Ryan]

Veterans Today is absolutely not to be trusted (any more). Many readers here may well know this already.

[justntime2learn]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Veterans Today is absolutely not to be trusted (any more). Many readers here may well know this already.

I learned a while back.

Bill, I remember you posting trustworthy sites like serendipity.li. Perhaps this is worth a look?

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...serendipity.li

[silverlight]

Thank you. I didn't know. Sorry about that.

[Kryztian]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Veterans Today is absolutely not to be trusted (any more).

I also look at who the author of VT is , but Gordon Duff is certainly the author and editor that has done the most to earn that publication distrust.

I remember back around October 2012 Duff wrote articles about an epic multi-nation military operation in the Pacific to destroy a Reptillian undersea base. Has any whistleblower ever come forward to confirm this, or any of the other tall tales Mr. Duff has told since that time? Perhaps we need a thread of Gordon Duff stories that have been disproven or have at least had zero consequence and creditibilty. I think of him as Sorcha Faal for people who want to read longer articles with bigger words.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Kryztian (here)
Perhaps we need a thread of Gordon Duff stories that have been disproven or have at least had zero consequence and creditibilty. I think of him as Sorcha Faal for people who want to read longer articles with bigger words.

Yes. Here are two existing threads worth reading:

• Veterans Today has jumped the shark

• Veterans Today: UFO Disclosure or Disinformation

[Kristin]

Posted by silverlight (here)
Thank you. I didn't know. Sorry about that.

Not to worry! We are all here to learn. Global Research is a decent site too you may want to check into. No matter what you are researching take the hour to research the authors as well; who they have worked for, prior articles, and get a little history on them before diving into their archives. No one is going to share your views entirely, that's across the board as we are all individuals. That being said, some are more well rounded than others. Happy hunting!

[justntime2learn]

Posted by silverlight (here)
Thank you. I didn't know. Sorry about that.

I think we have all been guilty at some point.

I feel it is important learning with empathy and I'm still learning.

We can all learn together

[Helene West]

It's a shame Duff has to be associated with Veterans in any way, gives them a bad name.
Maybe his 'expose' and the Netherlands docu is designed to counter the new book called Shattered that just came out by the two Clinton campaign whistleblowers that shows the contrivance of the Russia/election meme they are trying to force on everyone.

[CurEus]

It seems that the veracity of some of the "credible" websites shifts over time into the realm of fantasy speculation and fantastic claims. I can't help but wonder if VT and others are set up as a "credible" sites so that later on they can then be used to sew discord and plant disinformation. It certainly happened to most newspapers, magazines, and network newscasts. Although from what I here agency handlers are sitting in the TV studios these days....

We must remain ever vigilant it seems.

[section9]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Kryztian (here)
Perhaps we need a thread of Gordon Duff stories that have been disproven or have at least had zero consequence and creditibilty. I think of him as Sorcha Faal for people who want to read longer articles with bigger words.

Yes. Here are two existing threads worth reading:

• Veterans Today has jumped the shark

• Veterans Today: UFO Disclosure or Disinformation

Wasn't VT part of the rollout of the Randy Cramer story? Or did he kind of do that on his own? My memory is incomplete here.

It was my understanding that you became extremely skeptical of that story. Dolan gave a backhanded criticism as well on the Jimmy Church show, about three months ago, iirc, that you highlighted, as part of the ongoing Corey saga. I will note that the "Captain Kaye" channel got pulled from YouTube, although that's not necessarily a tell.

[Chester]

Some folks are more vulnerable to others in becoming corrupt. Some are born that way. Some get there later in life. Some get blackmailed or otherwise coerced into selling out. Some never do. Some may have become corrupt and then later in life, changed and sustained their new found integrity.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by section9 (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Kryztian (here)
Perhaps we need a thread of Gordon Duff stories that have been disproven or have at least had zero consequence and creditibilty. I think of him as Sorcha Faal for people who want to read longer articles with bigger words.

Yes. Here are two existing threads worth reading:

• Veterans Today has jumped the shark

• Veterans Today: UFO Disclosure or Disinformation
  

Wasn't VT part of the rollout of the Randy Cramer story? Or did he kind of do that on his own? My memory is incomplete here.

It was my understanding that you became extremely skeptical of that story. Dolan gave a backhanded criticism as well on the Jimmy Church show, about three months ago, iirc, that you highlighted, as part of the ongoing Corey saga. I will note that the "Captain Kaye" channel got pulled from YouTube, although that's not necessarily a tell.

I replied here, on one of the Randy Cramer threads, so as not to derail this interesting discussion. Do please respond there if you'd like to.

(Yes, VT did help promote the Randy Cramer story. But I think that's simply because Preston James is a poor researcher, who believes anything.)

• https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1152870

[PurpleLama]

http://www.judicialwatch.org/bulleti...s-felix-sater/

There are a few gems in and amongst the usual VT politicized bunk.

[Zanshin]

Bill if I could burden you with a request?

Perhaps you would have the time to provide a brief overview of the relationship
between a certain group of individuals who appear inextricably linked in yet another
alt media dis/info dog and pony show (a couple of whom were interviewed by Camelot
at one time)?

The list (by no means complete) would include:

*Ted Gunderson
*Stew Webb
*Leonard Millman
*Larry Mizel
and of course -
*Gordon Duff

Having listened to/read testimony from the aforementioned as it evolved, I would assert
that I have formed my own 3rd party opinion and would not presume to colour any
more legitimate testimony by blurting it out.

A little more clarity, if only as to the il/legitimacy (*) of these players, from one better placed to call it would be most appreciated.


(*) perhaps this could be better phrased as: the '+tive or -tive focus or agenda of'

edit: upon review, the gordon duff link to this thread seems tenuous - if so perhaps this request should go elsewhere

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Zanshin (here)
Bill if I could burden you with a request?

Interesting question, and thanks! But I don't feel I know enough here to comment helpfully.