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    Default Be prepared: Bankruptcy, Economic Collapse 2017

    Short Video: Those In The Know: Certainty Of Gov. Bankrupcy, Economic Collapse ... Ron Paul ect


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w2y0qR...ature=youtu.be

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    Bankruptcy and economic collapse has been predicted since the last collapse and massive transfer of wealth in 2007/08. It'll occur when we least expect it. A series of pre-planned conditions and major events needs to occur first. As we move towards a cashless society the Ruling Class bankers & Oil cartels will have near total control of the digital financial world.

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    Hey, like my peeps say: "You can't miss what you never had." I've been trained through real life experience to survive on the lowest of the affordable foods. Now that I have some insight on herbals, and other greens necessary for iron, I'm not saying I'm looking forward to the challenge, but I fear it not. I'm either gonna make it, or go home. Simple as that.

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    Quote Posted by Callista (here)
    That was funny Calista... feel the same...

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    Quote Posted by Callista (here)
    Exactly how I feel! I believe that it will happen eventually, but I've gotten a bit tired of all the crash predictions. Back when I was still following him I remember Gerald Celente making the prediction since 2007 that EVERY new year was going to be THE BIG ONE.

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    Evidence? The one word message is too short, but I've nothing to add. I'll ask again: Evidence?

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    Callista made me laugh

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    Quote Posted by yelik (here)
    Bankruptcy and economic collapse has been predicted since the last collapse and massive transfer of wealth in 2007/08. It'll occur when we least expect it. A series of pre-planned conditions and major events needs to occur first. As we move towards a cashless society the Ruling Class bankers & Oil cartels will have near total control of the digital financial world.
    Thank you, Yelik. Here is a question for you. In a cashless society, initiated by govt, do you think block chain will be allowed? I would think one of the benefits a cash free existence would provide the controllers, would be the ability to trace each and every transaction.

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    Through debit and credit cards combined with "loyalty" cards and internet ordering they are already very close to tracking every transaction. I don't expect they'll need blockchain to achieve 100% money surveillane .

    Canada withdrew the $1000 bills all we have left are 100's and 50's. Remove them and most transactions will have to be electronic. Ban them and almost everything will be. Apps are great for tracking purchases as well.

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    Yes I think blockchain / Bitcoin will be allowed because they are probably a dry run for digital currency, which together with forced vaccines and micro-chipping means we're probably stuffed because the masses will believe all the rhetoric and will sleep walk into the Orwellian society.

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    A cashless society stops bank runs also allows the government to tax every last cent that you spend

    There are many saying we are heading into a another crash but they have been saying that for 10 years a stop clock is right once a day ( sidereal time ast time ) lol
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    By the truest definition the US was bankrupt the first year it ran a deficit. Debts outsize revenue.

    As soon as I saw the Alex Jones logo in the lower right hand corner I knew it was fear porn.

    How many times can people claim an event several standard deviations from here will happen before we get wise (please listen to this ad for gold and silver sales).

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    Unless you have a great deal of wealth, gold and silver are not affordable. Also, if it came to that you would be murdered for it by the very people you hope to make purchases from. Would there be gold or silver coins available to people at affordable prices? As for the cashless society. If your account is on a computer, make believe money, all they have to do is say you don't have an account. Who are you going to find to fix it???? No one.

    Example: I gave a not bright friend my email information. She put it on her smart phone which infected the google email address and any subsequent tries at new email addresses by me were BLOCKED. Therefore, I am without an email address, cannot make purchases or send messages, etc., via computer. You do not exist and there is no one on the other end which will or can help you. Making money out of air with nothing in your hand to show for your labor, not even paper, is DEATH and/or ENSLAVEMENT. When you can't pay your land taxes, they come to sell your house out under you. Even if you don't owe a soul anything, the taxes to the county always are THERE. The only option is to starve to death or blow your brains out if you own a gun.
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    Unless you have a great deal of wealth, gold and silver are not affordable.
    Currently, I could purchase another silver coin for $20 on such sites as https://www.texmetals.com. Some of us would consider $20 a great deal of wealth, but not most of us .

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    Example: I gave a not bright friend my email information. She put it on her smart phone which infected the google email address and any subsequent tries at new email addresses by me were BLOCKED.
    If you gave your friend your email address, that would not infect that address.

    If you gave your friend your email login and password ... then perhaps your not bright friend has herself a not so bright friend .

    Never give anyone else your email login and password unless you would trust them to manage your affairs and assets, such as a trusted spouse, in times of your disability, or unless that's a throw-away email account unused to access any of your accounts or assets or more valuable email accounts.
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    I fear more the potential for an impending ice age / grand solar minimum situation. Will I still be able to grow kale? I wonder if I should get a few chickens? Eggs might be useful. Mint: I have that; makes great tea. Don't think English mint will survive an ice age as it never seems to make it through our Pacific Northwest winters. I wonder if the market gardeners are having success with their crops? Will their be any greens for me to buy? At what price, I wonder?

    This Spring has been cold and wet. It is nearly late May and I am still turning on the heater; don't want to fire up the wood stove and use up precious firewood that is curing for next winter. My crops are shivering and standing still although the spinach is up. Wish I could get perennial kale in Canada. You lucky Americans!!!

    They are thoroughly discouraging wells in this part of the world. I hope the public water system doesn't freeze up. I have a small catchment system, but it is only for short emergencies. I have a Berkey which I love and spare filters, so I guess chipping ice on mud puddles and melting snow, then filtering, might be a solution to hydration needs.

    One cat is a mighty huntress and often brings home rabbits. I guess I will be overcoming my disgust and vegetarianism and eating part of it, unless I can figure out how to feed myself from the sun and through my eyes, if there is any sun not covered by chemtrails.

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    Near me is an Indian neighborhood and the jewelers seem to sell mostly 22K gold jewelry as opposed to the american jewelers who sell mostly 14k. if you try to sell some 14k jewelry to the "We Buy Gold" joints (they don't seem interested in silver) you take a bath. I wonder if one would do better with Indian jewelry? a small pair of earrings isn't as big a hit as going online to these gold and silver bug sites to buy an oz of gold.

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    calling a video that starts out with 7 minutes or so of ron paul speaking 100 percent facts fear porn seems disingenuous at best sir.the usa economy has already collapsed. 95 million working aged americans out

    of the workforce 20- 200 trillion in debt . consumer debt at an all time high. nominal wages have not gone up in 40 years..while the price of goods and services have skyrocketed. make no mistake its already happened.




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    By the truest definition the US was bankrupt the first year it ran a deficit. Debts outsize revenue.

    As soon as I saw the Alex Jones logo in the lower right hand corner I knew it was fear porn.

    How many times can people claim an event several standard deviations from here will happen before we get wise (please listen to this ad for gold and silver sales).

    Ah that's the answer.

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    calling a video that starts out with 7 minutes or so of ron paul speaking 100 percent facts fear porn seems disingenuous at best sir.the usa economy has already collapsed. 95 million working aged americans out

    of the workforce 20- 200 trillion in debt . consumer debt at an all time high. nominal wages have not gone up in 40 years..while the price of goods and services have skyrocketed. make no mistake its already happened.




    Quote Posted by mgray (here)
    By the truest definition the US was bankrupt the first year it ran a deficit. Debts outsize revenue.

    As soon as I saw the Alex Jones logo in the lower right hand corner I knew it was fear porn.

    How many times can people claim an event several standard deviations from here will happen before we get wise (please listen to this ad for gold and silver sales).

    Ah that's the answer.
    The pending collapse as most doomsayers predict is bit more complicated than how Sen. Paul puts it. In September of 2008 we were 20 minutes from a collapse of the stock and bond market. That's the truth. The money market system was about to collapse and with it all businesses using it and the commercial paper market for short-term funding. Government stepped in a "fixed" the market.

    We are well past that point. Whether its a good point we are at now is open to debate, but there is no reason to think 2017 will be the year, since most doomsayers said 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 were the years the collapse would happen.

    Rest assured the global economy will not grow more than 2% in any year for the foreseeable future, but collapse, No. Bankruptcy, No.
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    Default Re: Be prepared: Bankruptcy, Economic Collapse 2017

    congressman paul couldn't come out as abruptly as the doomsayers can on youtube, no question. I believe he has been predicting what is happening to the usa for 30 years or so very correctly.

    I guess its partially semantics, bit I would contend that the economy has already collapsed, and that a country who has a debt that can 100 percent never be repaid is already bankrupt.

    either way.. I appreciate the things you post and appreciate the dialogue.

    thank you

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