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    please bare with me in this one... does the earth grow?

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    Do gps have to be recaibrate becouse of this growth?
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    Default Re: Is the Earth expanding?

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    please bare with me in this one... does the earth grow?

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    Do gps have to be recaibrate becouse of this growth?
    Well, this thread might as well go there!

    It sounds like a crazy idea, but David Wilcock's early insider source Daniel (real name known, a serious scientist with his own website on the net) told David, who told Kerry and myself, that the Earth was expanding, and this information was known to black ops scientists. (Why this would be kept classified was never stated.)

    This was in early 2007, ten years ago, and I'd never heard the idea before. Since then, a number of websites, and clever videos like the one below, have appeared. It's interesting stuff. As best I know, the mechanism how this might work has never been satisfactorily explained, and it's hard for me to guess at what it might be.

    (If the Earth was indeed somehow expanding, I believe it'd be so slowly — maybe even over 4.5 billion years — that no change would easily be detectable. GPS satellites would not encounter any issues.)



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    Default Re: Is the Earth expanding?

    See the post below. But beware: if the earth is expanding, the Schumann resonance should be decreasing. Since it is the speed of light (300,000 km/sec) divided by the earth's circumference (40,000 km), if the latter figure rose to say 50,000, the Schumann resonance would drop to 6.
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    3) There must be lots of evidence of "Chinese all over Europe" studying the welfare systems. Can anyone confirm this?

    4) The earth's gravity is increasing...? Even minute variations would be detected by all sorts of ongoing experiments and measurements - wouldn't it?
    More...

    I lived in Switzerland for several years prior to 2011, and several times traveled extensively in Germany, France, Holland, and Italy. Prior to that, I lived in the UK for many years until 2005. I barely, if ever, saw any Chinese. Of course, that observation is not up to date.

    On the other hand, the Earth may be very gradually increasing in size -- though I agree with your comment about sensitive magnetometers. If our gravity is changing, it's changing quite imperceptibly. David Wilcock's insider source 'Daniel' told David, who told us, that this was known on the 'inside' but for some reason was regarded as classified information. And the author of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Adams, was also a (very intelligent!) proponent of the theory and helped it to gain ground for serious discussion.

    Here's an animation:



    Here's a summary of the theory:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding_Earth

    And here's a video:

    There are around half a million Chinese in France, about 40% living in and around Paris, including in Europe's biggest Chinatown.
    The CHinese like to congregate, which means you might see none, or you might see a lot.


    The expanding earth theory is easily visualized by Neal Adams, who shows how its land mass would have fitted together near perfectly when it was 55% of its present size. There are other videos examining local details, and still others transposing the phenomenon to other planets.

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    Default Re: Is the Earth expanding?

    I'm not a geologist, so I don't know how unlikely an expanding earth would be, but I'd guess, very unlikely. However, the possibility of continental drift was ignored for decades simply because there was no plausible mechanism to drive it.

    Oh, perhaps continental drift is still wrong if the world is expanding!

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    Default Re: Is the Earth expanding?

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    who told Kerry and myself, that the Earth was expanding, and this information was known to black ops scientists. (Why this would be kept classified was never stated).
    Here's my thought process on that one

    The earth is expanding >> matter can be created (or more specifically LENR(aka cold fusion) is real)>> Scarcity is a completely false paradigm & thus all control structures fail.

    I'd call that a good reason, I probably could back most of that up as well with some pretty compelling corroboration.
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    Default Re: Is the Earth expanding?

    An expanding earth fits in neatly and necessarily with Paul LaViolette’s theory whereby everything is growing, from the atom up, all the way through to galactic superclusters. A moon grows into a planet, a planet into a dwarf star, a dwarf star into a giant star etc. See this post:
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post863052


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    Default Re: Is the Earth expanding?

    Did You Know That Earth Is Getting Lighter Every Day?

    Earth is getting 50,000 tonnes lighter every year, even while 40,000 tonnes of space dust fall on our planet's surface during the same period. So, why are we losing so much weight? You will be surprised.
    http://gizmodo.com/5882517/did-you-k...hter-every-day

    Tectonic inversion and subversion

    What if the subversion for some reason slows?
    There would be more uplift and so expansion, is this happening?
    Might also result in sea levels raising?
    If the Earth is getting lighter ever year dispite the falling matter from space, this might lead to less downward presure on the surface (Expansion)
    Melting ice caps, another presure release on the crust, more expansion?
    Less downward presure on crust might lead to less subversion?
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    Default Re: Is the Earth expanding?

    if earth is getting lighter while growing... how does it summ up to the equation???
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    Quote Posted by betoobig (here)
    if earth is getting lighter while growing... how does it summ up to the equation???
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    must be mass coming from somewhere eh?

    Conservation of energy tell us the earth is probably gaining mass, as we are constantly bombarded with "cosmic rays" (energy). Or maybe it's a net balance?
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    Quote Posted by meat suit (here)
    good cases have been made for the earth, sun and other planets/moons to be hollow...
    in that case its a question of expanding like a balloon/sphere
    I dont know but volcanoes constantly bring landmass to the surface from beneath. volcanoes grows even beneath seas and some mountains used to be sea floor. so maybe its thinning while expanding like a balloon. upon reaching its peak growth it will take a pause before exploding to oblivion. Like everything grows and then die.
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    I dont know but volcanoes constantly bring landmass to the surface. volcanoes grows even beneath seas and some mountains used to be sea floor. so maybe its thinning while expanding like a balloon.

    Conservation of energy

    Oil wells refill when you go back and tap them after a few years....

    I think matter very possibly IS being created with in the earth... and the earth growing because of it. it's certainly a good explanation for the gigantic dinosaurs that couldn't support their own weight on the current planet.
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    I dont know but volcanoes constantly bring landmass to the surface. volcanoes grows even beneath seas and some mountains used to be sea floor. so maybe its thinning while expanding like a balloon.

    Conservation of energy

    Oil wells refill when you go back and tap them after a few years....

    I think matter very possibly IS being created with in the earth... and the earth growing because of it. it's certainly a good explanation for the gigantic dinosaurs that couldn't support their own weight on the current plane.
    If we are constantly bombarded by energies from the sun then yes matter is created since matter primarily is energy.

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    Conservation of matter and energy tends to discount the idea that the Earth is gaining mass. However, an insider (cant remember his name) on one of the Bases interviews said the Earth was gaining mass, i believe he said growing. If this is the case, as Bill says this would have to be extremely slow, how else would long living life forms adapt to the gravity change?

    If the Earth is growing, expanding or losing mass, then this process is following principles not identified in modern physics, though that's not saying much cuz modern mainstream physics cant explain dark matter either, let alone anti-gravity or zero point energy. MS science had great difficulty in explaining how bumblebees fly until they got really technical in their analysis.

    This topic is probably nearly impossible to confirm one way or another given our knowledge in the mainstream. Even if an insider can across with more meat on this issue it would likely be very hard to verify.
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    Quote Posted by Justplain (here)
    If the Earth is growing, expanding or losing mass, then this process is following principles not identified in modern physics
    Not modern popular physics... no.. but still modern physics:

    Actually, LENR explains it very neatly... (aka "cold fusion"). In my mind that's a reality; I've read enough that I'm convinced anyway.
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    Quote Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
    Did You Know That Earth Is Getting Lighter Every Day?
    Neale Adam’s timescale for the creation of the oceans is 180-200 million years.



    If the Earth is getting lighter as well as bigger, that would mean its density is decreasing, which would be compatible with LaViolettte’s theory of slow evolution in the direction of a gas giant. This is also incidentally in line with Law of One terminology whereby other ‘dimensions’ are described as different ‘densities’. Hence expansion might be the physical component of spiritual evolution. I would expect that another component of this process might be radiation of light, which in my limited understanding may have zero mass and still have weight (gravitational effects). Radiation/radiance: at some stage, a planet – and maybe also a human – becomes a net exporter of light.
    http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...oton_mass.html
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Well, the earth is not hollow, and there's no 'internal sun'.
    We can do Reflection Seismology to amazing depths. We effectively "know" the earth is (for the vast majority) solid.

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    As for how realistic that idea [expanding Earth] is, check these posts: here (<--- and follow up on that thread) and here (<--- and follow up on that thread).
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    Default Re: Is the Earth expanding?

    it's HOW the earth is expanding that's the real pearl ...filled from within

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    Default Re: Is the Earth expanding?

    @betoobig, I appreciate you're a nice person, and always mean well, but you've driven the original thread off topic twice now.

    I've moved 13 posts talking about the 'Hollow Earth' to a different existing thread, where that discussion belongs.


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    I really don't have much to add to this thread other than a broad perspective, or viewpoint, gleaned through my own process of learning - which has been slow, as a tortoise; but perhaps the lessons learned are more salient that way?

    I do not find it easy to dismiss this theory. Unlike 'hollow' or 'flat' earths there is something that 'feels' plausible/possible about this - in a vague kind of way it intrigues me.

    I believe it was TargeT that first brought http://www.dinosaurtheory.com/big_dinosaur.html to my attention. As a 'permanent layman'* I found it quite intriguing. Would a (relatively) smaller planet with a lower gravity have been more conducive to the existence of Megafauna? Perhaps a college professor of 'dinosaurs' (sorry, paleontology) would be apoplectic reading the aformentioned link, but we see time and time again that it is those who have the most invested in a belief system that are the most vociferous in deriding/denying an alternate perspective/theory.

    I'm not convinced we fully understand the criteria for gravity or its relation to the size/mass of a planetary body just because we have an observational theory that seems to hold true. By the same respect I don't believe we fully understand the geological processes of our current abode. (No disrespect intended Hervé, it is perfectly understandable that you would present the commonly accepted science as it is today).

    The quantum sciences have matter appearing from 'nowhere' - and disappearing back to who 'knows where'. The electric universe theory is a radically different idea to the one that is generally held to be true but hints at some very interesting interconnections.

    I see a connection between these last two raised points and many spiritual musings, perhaps that makes them more attractive to me. My very nature rails against the establishment and established theory so I am not perhaps the best person to judge the possible veracity of such due to my predilections. Nevertheless I feel there is a distinct possibility there is something to this.

    *NB: What is a 'permanent layman'?
    The opposite of an expert is the best answer I can give, hopefully you understand - like the 'full cup' overflows, it can accept no more.
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