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    Default Winning James Randi's million dollar challenge! [April's fool prank, 2008]

    Is it some trick or something more, also I will never complain about having a bad hair day again!...




    Hey Seth spend 10 bucks of your mill and trim some of those wild tufts...lol
    double edit: Maybe it's those wild hairs that gives Seth his power?..

    Quote At the MIT Media Lab in April 2008, Hi-Tech Magician Seth Raphael (http://magicseth.com/) challenged James Randi (http://randi.org/), claiming his computer can read minds. Randi accepted the challenge and then watched as Seth's computer succeeded in passing all of his tests. Witness Randi handing Seth the first good faith check for $10,000. Seth performs all of these miracles in live shows for companies across the world.
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    Default Re: Winning James Randi's million dollar challenge! [April's fool prank, 2008]

    James Randi was such an interesting character in the above video thought you would like to hear/see more of him...

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    Default Re: Winning James Randi's million dollar challenge! [April's fool prank, 2008]

    Hey, Mojo, so the vid in the OP is just an april fools joke. This guy Randi is a debunker probably on an alphabet agency payroll. I think stan friedman uncovered a prof at harvard, i think, who was the biggest ufo debunker of the fifties/sixties, who was actually on the cia payroll and possibly a member of majestic 12.

    A guy like randi just adds fuel to atheists and transhumanists who want us all to think we are just mortal, over-ripened monkeys. Well, they wont give up, will they.
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    Default Re: Winning James Randi's million dollar challenge! [April's fool prank, 2008]

    Considering the vid is half an hour long, it is not ethical to post it. I, for one, watched intensely with great interest, but found I had wasted the time.

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    Default Re: Winning James Randi's million dollar challenge! [April's fool prank, 2008]

    Why is it unethical? I watched it and dont think an April fools joke...

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    Default Re: Winning James Randi's million dollar challenge! [April's fool prank, 2008]

    I think it was a joke too.

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    Quote Posted by mojo (here)
    Why is it unethical? I watched it and dont think an April fools joke...
    Most people watching this think its a genuine. They do not enjoy it because
    1. A significant amount of time is wasted.
    2. Feeling of being fooled, angry at themselves and may be at you. This negativity is bad for both. An action is ethical if it brings joy and positivity, and unethical is it brings guilt and negativity.

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    Default Re: Winning James Randi's million dollar challenge! [April's fool prank, 2008]

    Maybe the mods can post a note in the subject line saying the video is most likely a joke so people have the option. Some may watch the video before reading members' responses to it.

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    ..........
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    Default Re: Winning James Randi's million dollar challenge! [April's fool prank, 2008]

    Quote Posted by syrwong (here)
    Quote Posted by mojo (here)
    Why is it unethical? I watched it and dont think an April fools joke...
    Most people watching this think its a genuine. They do not enjoy it because
    1. A significant amount of time is wasted.
    2. Feeling of being fooled, angry at themselves and may be at you. This negativity is bad for both. An action is ethical if it brings joy and positivity, and unethical is it brings guilt and negativity.
    It depends completely on your point of view, doesn't it? - i think that a significant part of population would find this not negative at all, but instead positive and time well spent.

    UT

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    Default Re: Winning James Randi's million dollar challenge! [April's fool prank, 2008]

    Ethics is formed from agreement among the majority of a population. For sure it is subjective. In a culture where everyone finds joy in fooling one another, fooling is ethical. But in this world, few people find joy in being fooled.

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    Quote Posted by Joe (here)
    Quote Posted by syrwong (here)
    Quote Posted by mojo (here)
    Why is it unethical? I watched it and dont think an April fools joke...
    Most people watching this think its a genuine. They do not enjoy it because
    1. A significant amount of time is wasted.
    2. Feeling of being fooled, angry at themselves and may be at you. This negativity is bad for both. An action is ethical if it brings joy and positivity, and unethical is it brings guilt and negativity.
    It would, therefore, be unethical to tell someone you ran over their cat.
    The origin is the unethical action of running over the cat. It brings guilt to you. It is exactly for this guilt that you tell the owner what you did, so that you feel less guilty. Telling the truth releases you of the guilt to some extent, and it brings joy. So it is ethical to admit your wrongdoing.

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    Default Re: Winning James Randi's million dollar challenge! [April's fool prank, 2008]

    Lol. Everyone beat me to it. This is a pretty well known stunt preplanned by Randi et al. It had me fooled too the first time I saw it. I was amazed someone had "finally" got the $! But indeed, at the end, they all take a bow and exclaim "April Fools!".
    "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" - Orwell

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    Default Re: Winning James Randi's million dollar challenge! [April's fool prank, 2008]

    It had the feel of nastiness. I thought immediately that Mojo was pissed for watching the whole video and wanted to share the experience. All I know is I did not appreciate the wasted time. It is not April fools now...and it will be a while before I read another thread by Mojo because of it.
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    Default Re: Winning James Randi's million dollar challenge! [April's fool prank, 2008]

    Wow sorry to make anyone feel nasty or a waste of time. I sure try not to fool people with hoaxes, and shared my thought of trick or not in the opening post. Also to share that it was my impression Randi the debunker came to show the magician validation or not...

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    Default Re: Winning James Randi's million dollar challenge! [April's fool prank, 2008]

    Just that I had 1 hour of free time and half of it was spent making connections inferred by that video, only to have to spend the next half hour unconnecting the connections. It was ridiculous from the start and I could not understand how that could have convinced Randi. Except unless certain loose assumptions were actually confirmed and factual. There was no way a computer could even be considered psychic unless computers were already accepted as sentient. The whole circumstance caused disbelief and yet I had to accept it as fact - because I trust members to offer truth at least as they see it, and respect my time and attention.

    On any other forum I would have immediately refuted any tenant as ludicrous as that. It`s the trust issue that gets me.

    Then again I often miss what others catch on to

    I guess what`s done is done

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    Default Re: Winning James Randi's million dollar challenge! [April's fool prank, 2008]

    Great trick! From what little I know James Randi has worked hard to teach people how not to get tricked and he does it to a fault... to extremes... he would never believe in the supernatural like I do. I like to gloss over this because I think he cares deeply about people, and them getting wise to being lied to. His trick here is case in point.

    So yes it is a trick and what does it mean? I think James Randi meant to fool to prove a point. Be sceptical. He does it to extremes but all the same it's a good lesson for the right season.

    James Randi transformed from a stage magician to this sceptic after exposing a fake healer caught using wireless transmitters and an accomplice to pretend to have divine powers*1.


    *1.
    James Randi Debunks Peter Popoff Faith Healer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7BQKu0YP8Y
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    Default Re: Winning James Randi's million dollar challenge! [April's fool prank, 2008]

    This is an April Fool's Day Prank from 2008. You might want to spend 5 minutes online to research some of these things before you post them here in Avalon. Here are two sources I found in about the topic.

    Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge

    Quote As an April Fool's prank on April 1, 2008, at the MIT Media Lab, Randi pretended to award the prize to magician Seth Raphael after participating in a test of Raphael's "psychic abilities".[6]
    James Randi created the “One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge.” No one ever claimed the prize

    https://m.thevintagenews.com/2016/12/30/james-randi-created-the-one-million-dollar-paranormal-challenge-no-one-ever-claimed-the-prize/


    Quote On April 1st, 2008, Randi claimed to have given the prize to the magician Seth Raphael after extensive testing at the MIT Media Lab, but it was later revealed that Randi only pulled an elaborate April Fools prank.

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    Default Re: Winning James Randi's million dollar challenge! [April's fool prank, 2008]

    This thread may need more attention. Firstly no one who knows a bit of science can deny psychic abilities exist. The evidence is overwhelming. That it is not in main stream and education is the result of deliberate suppress of human knowledge by TPTB, an attempt to dumb down people and make them think they are useless and helpless. Viewing this way, any organisation set up for the purpose of debunking psychic ability is working for the controllers. I would think the old man is just one of the lackeys. The one million dollar prize is just a trick, since the rules can be set arbitrarily harsh so that a proof is unattainable (such as 100% success rate).

    What was the video targeted at? The open minded people, those who are most likely to oppose the present paradigm. Like us members. This makes the video more sinister. It has the smell of the biggest enemy of humanity humiliating us. When the video is posted on an ordinary day long after its release and with an attrative title, much precious time will be wasted. Say 1000 views at the video, 1000*0.5=500 hours are needlessly wasted.

    I now notice the change in the title. Very important.
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    James Randi and Ghosts

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