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    Below is a TEDx talk given by Mark Mattson, the current Chief of the Laboratory of Neuroscience at the National Institute on Aging. He is also a professor of Neuroscience at The Johns Hopkins University, and one of the foremost researchers of the cellular and molecular mechanisms underlying multiple neurodegenerative disorders, like Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s disease.

    I’d like to address the Big Pharma issue first, since there have been countless examples of research manipulation at the hands of pharmaceutical companies in recent years. This is why Harvard Professor of Medicine Arnold Symour Relman told the world that the medical profession has been bought by the pharmaceutical industry. It’s why Dr. Richard Horton, Editor in Chief of The Lancet, recently stated that much of the scientific literature published today is false. It’s why Dr. Marcia Angell, former Editor in Chief of The New England Journal of Medicine, said that the “pharmaceutical industry likes to depict itself as a research-based industry, as the source of innovative drugs. Nothing could be further from the truth.” And it’s why John Ioannidis, an epidemiologist at the Stanford University School of Medicine, published an article titled “Why Most Published Research Findings Are False,” which subsequently became the most widely accessed article in the history of the Public Library of Science (PLoS)."

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    That's a totally totally dreadful opportunistic click-bait re-upload.

    I strongly recommend this original version!

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    Default Re: Neuroscientist Shows what Fasting Does to Your Brain & why Big Pharma won't study it

    Of course, Ramadan started last night, so it is timely, in it's own way.
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    Amazon summary:
    Dr. Hay began his practice in 1891. The first sixteen years were spent in regular medicine and surgery. When his own health broke down he began studying alternative approaches and became a naturopath; his main "weapon" was water and water fasting.

    Book snippets:
    • “His entire effort in the practice of his profession for the past twenty-four years has been directed toward making everyone his own physician.”

    • “The writer does not treat disease, in the strictest sense of the word, but seeks only to build health on whatever foundation remains at the time this is undertaken; so he cannot ever say that he cured a single disease in his whole medical practice, nor does he believe that anyone else ever did. He seeks merely to remove from each case the visible obstacles to Nature's unhampered function, and he knows that this is all that the smartest man in the world can do. Nature alone makes the cure, if it is ever made or to be made. “

    • “This is the lesson that each must learn if he aspires to be his own physician, and once he has learned this lesson well, he then lacks only the will and initiative to put the whole program to the test, which will thoroughly convince him of the truth of the entire proposition. Let no man who is wounded try to do without the surgeon, for this is his legitimate field, nor should one who is deformed try to do the same thing, for this also is surgery's legitimate field, in both of which surgery has shown its worth; but if one has a pain anywhere in his insides let him stay away from the surgeon, if he wishes to die whole, for he may die otherwise in various sections serially.”

    • “So fasting has its place in treatment of the sick, but do not make the mistake of thinking that either foods or fasting are curative, for only the body's own resources are in any sense the agents of cure. What fasting does is just what right food does, the mere relieving of the system from former handicaps, and while right foods in the right combinations will relieve a former handicap of wrong foods (or wrong foods in wrong combinations, which is the usual thing), yet even right foods in right combinations may be a handicap when the body is not able to handle even these, and desires in no unmistakable voice to be let strictly alone. It is then that the fast is clearly indicated, and this indication should be as faithfully respected as any other indication in disease or in health, and no food of any kind should be offered or taken till the body announces through normal hunger a return of need for nourishment. Then the need for fasting has passed and feeding may be resumed, and it is then that care must be exercised not to create again a toxic state that will make another such cataclysm necessary. Thus fasting and feeding, as resting and exercise, emphasize again the great law of compensation, of give and take, of action and reaction, each having its definite place in the body's scheme of keeping her balance or regaining it when lost.”
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    Default Re: Neuroscientist Shows what Fasting Does to Your Brain & why Big Pharma won't study it

    hippocrates i read has said, "if you are not your own doctor then you are a fool" ..or something along that line
    which seems correct, since giving away ones power is a cardinal sin (so to speak)

    I can say that from personal experience fasting has been one of the best forms of self help for me personally.....
    since most foods are in some form or another kind of toxic to the body as it is still in a state of malfunction due to whatever genetic tampering has been ongoing on this planet for a very long time.....some people have no issues with some foods and in fact thrive on them, whereas others do not, which reveal the mutations...and the impediments.
    But without basic elemental building blocks to work with in a form the body can use then what kind of building will be built?..... the body will use whatever it is given, but there must be some kind of optimal "formula" for essentials which lead to rapid regeneration and integral immunity to pathogens of whatever kind..... however it gets complicated when considering the variations at play within the entire species.
    perhaps the point is to move beyond reliance to the forms of matter and become enabled to tap into the primal energies underlying the formations..... spontaneous regeneration and miraculous healings seem to point in that direction rather strongly

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    I recently fasted on nothing but fruit and vegetable juice for 6 weeks. My experience was absolutely wonderful! I had more energy than normal and at times more than I knew what to do with. I have fasted occasionally over the years but this one was absolutely the best. I was very hungry at times but persevered and lost 16 pounds along with the pain of arthritis that was keeping me from doing the things I wanted to do like typing and playing the piano. I knew I was toxic so the fast was in order.

    No the food companies didn't get rich off me since I only ate the juice of fresh organic fruits and veggies. And the Drug companies didn't get rich off me either since the arthritis pain went away too. When your body is fed the nutrients it needs it has the tools to heal itself. I have, many times in the past, done the Master Cleanse and would lose a few pounds after a week and always gained it back. this time I fasted so long that I gained a new habit...one I think may do this body good! Hopefully my brain gained something from it too.

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    Fasting, or food deprivation, is also known to enhance our ability to achieve altered states of consciousness, including OBEs. I believe there is a study on this, but I am having trouble finding it.

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    Caloric restriction has been shown to induce over 400 changes gene expression in humans. yes, over 400. That is a lot of change. Noted effects are greatly increased longevity (when sustained), lower indications of all age related diseases, less cancers, less cognitive decline, less cardiovascular disease, etc. This has been known for quite a while but is just making it to mainstream lately.

    It is the only proven method to actual increase lifespan in humans. One has to wonder ... if we could get all our energy directly from Source, or at least if our resting state could be switch to aerobic as to anaerobic (extracting energy from oxygen (breath) as opposed to calories), one has to wonder if our lifespans might also increase to those levels we read about in ancient sources, that indicated that humans, at some point, regularly lived several hundred years.

    This all concludes one thing. Gluttony. The western diet particularly is incredibly far too calorie dense. Gluttony is one of the original biblical "seven deadly sins", if I am not mistaken. Now we have scientific proof that this little biblical tidbit actually has strong merit. Not that I am promoting the bible, but it certainly is not all just a bunch of fantasy or old stories. What was written was written for a reason, whether or not that reason has been hijacked by current religions or not.



    "A new study shows five days of hunger a month may reduce risk factors for aging and age-related diseases"

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...aging-results/
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    Fasting gives a strong boost to our body's ability to heal itself. Here's an extensive discussion of this topic, by a well known Researcher, Dr. Valdo Vaccaro, who challenges openly the establishment's dogmas, about eating and healing.

    We have tried ourselves to do the full fast (only water and lemon juice) for 4 to 6 days, recently, followed by a half-fasting of juice and vegetable extracts and raw fruit for a few more days/weeks, to see that the body responds positively, and this can trigger a period of self cleansing, when the body turns up the temperature every night, or makes you sweat abundantly to detoxify.

    After these periods, the body's desire for certain foods (mainly meat and cheese) has diminished, as if we had come off an addiction.

    The mind, also, showed benefits, as new ideas have popped up, while some recurring annoying thoughts are not showing as much as they did before. The desire to learn and explore new ways has also arisen.

    The whole effort of fasting, though, will be nullified if, afterwards, we start poisoning ourselves again with a bad diet. The school of the hygienists, in fact, tends to suggest a vegan, mostly raw, diet, as the correct way to pursue optimal health, by nourishing and detoxifying the body, starting from your blood.

    What the fasting does, is to boost your detoxification if you need to change course after years or decades of bad eating habits. It's not considered always necessary if you're not coming from the traditional eat-meat-every-day "culture", so common in our countries, or if you have done the big detox already.

    Given the normal programming we all have suffered in the west, though, it's simpler to say that we all need it, at least at the turning point, to shake off the chemical programming and the toxic waste we carry!
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    Every culture, religion, spiritual path has incorporated fasting into their lives. This is nothing "new" but it is heartening to see that it is being looked at again by "science and medicine".

    Intermittent Fasting or IF is very popular among Paleo, Keto Fitness and Longevity oriented groups.

    Recently it has been noted that the immune system can be regenerated in about 3-4 days through and a 30 day fast can very likely eliminate type 2 diabetes.
    Something so simple that can produce profound healing....

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    I did an 8 day water only fast last month. I was inspired after I read “The Pleasure Trap,” by Douglas J. Lisle, Ph.D & Alan Goldhamer, D.C. The two chapters that spelled it out were: Chapter 15: “Fasting Can Save your Life” & Chapter 16: “Show Me the Data”.

    By day 6 1/5, the detox pain through my back, lower back, and thighs was unbearable. So I diluted an Advil in 4 oz. of water and sipped 2 T spoons of the mixture. To dilute further, I washed it down with more water. As it turned out, only two doses were needed over the last couple of days.

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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    Of course, Ramadan started last night, so it is timely, in it's own way.
    well, they fast at day time (when the sun is up) and pig out on food at night time. Have you ever seen those evening meals? They are for Kings. I am not sure this can be considered as fasting.

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    I really need to come back to this. I have just been diagnosed with CHF.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    That's a totally totally dreadful opportunistic click-bait re-upload.

    I strongly recommend this original version!

    Excellent. I can personally attest to feeling significantly healthier when I do intermittent fasting. I am doing it right now and have lost 3.5 kg's in less than a week. I have done it in the past with the same results, I just was silly and ate my way back to being tubby . Was in a bad place.

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    Amazon summary:
    Dr. Hay began his practice in 1891. The first sixteen years were spent in regular medicine and surgery. When his own health broke down he began studying alternative approaches and became a naturopath; his main "weapon" was water and water fasting.

    Book snippets:
    • “His entire effort in the practice of his profession for the past twenty-four years has been directed toward making everyone his own physician.”

    • “The writer does not treat disease, in the strictest sense of the word, but seeks only to build health on whatever foundation remains at the time this is undertaken; so he cannot ever say that he cured a single disease in his whole medical practice, nor does he believe that anyone else ever did. He seeks merely to remove from each case the visible obstacles to Nature's unhampered function, and he knows that this is all that the smartest man in the world can do. Nature alone makes the cure, if it is ever made or to be made. “

    • “This is the lesson that each must learn if he aspires to be his own physician, and once he has learned this lesson well, he then lacks only the will and initiative to put the whole program to the test, which will thoroughly convince him of the truth of the entire proposition. Let no man who is wounded try to do without the surgeon, for this is his legitimate field, nor should one who is deformed try to do the same thing, for this also is surgery's legitimate field, in both of which surgery has shown its worth; but if one has a pain anywhere in his insides let him stay away from the surgeon, if he wishes to die whole, for he may die otherwise in various sections serially.”

    • “So fasting has its place in treatment of the sick, but do not make the mistake of thinking that either foods or fasting are curative, for only the body's own resources are in any sense the agents of cure. What fasting does is just what right food does, the mere relieving of the system from former handicaps, and while right foods in the right combinations will relieve a former handicap of wrong foods (or wrong foods in wrong combinations, which is the usual thing), yet even right foods in right combinations may be a handicap when the body is not able to handle even these, and desires in no unmistakable voice to be let strictly alone. It is then that the fast is clearly indicated, and this indication should be as faithfully respected as any other indication in disease or in health, and no food of any kind should be offered or taken till the body announces through normal hunger a return of need for nourishment. Then the need for fasting has passed and feeding may be resumed, and it is then that care must be exercised not to create again a toxic state that will make another such cataclysm necessary. Thus fasting and feeding, as resting and exercise, emphasize again the great law of compensation, of give and take, of action and reaction, each having its definite place in the body's scheme of keeping her balance or regaining it when lost.”
    I can relate to this because this is exactly what I am doing by instinct. twice a week fast or 30 day fast (Ramadan) are all crap. again this article is a clear example of "hook and bait". fast is good but then make it twice a week or 30 days and then you get the bad thing. only our senses can tell us if we need fast or we have done enough fast. My fast consist of drinking water at first knock of hunger I do this again until hunger knock every 5 to 10 minutes only then I eat. fasting more than two days starts killing my cells. But its only for me yours is different. Point is dont listen to anyone but your senses.
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    I can relate to this because this is exactly what I am doing by instinct. twice a week fast or 30 day fast (Ramadan) are all crap. again this article is a clear example of "hook and bait". fast is good but then make it twice a week or 30 days and then you get the bad thing. only our senses can tell us if we need fast or we have done enough fast. My fast consist of drinking water at first knock of hunger I do this again until hunger knock every 5 to 10 minutes only then I eat. fasting more than two days starts killing my cells. But its only for me yours is different. Point is dont listen to anyone but your senses.
    Quote I can relate to this because this is exactly what I am doing by instinct. twice a week fast or 30 day fast (Ramadan) are all crap.
    For myself, it’s good to keep an open mind. What worked before no longer does. That and I’d add, everyone’s different. Even though I’ve eaten the macrobiotic way for more than 30 years and now mainly do whole foods, I’m flexible on those days where I need to do junk.

    The 8 day water fast was enough for me to know, I don’t need to go that long again. But I’ll not rule it out.

    Quote again this article is a clear example of "hook and bait". fast is good but then make it twice a week or 30 days and then you get the bad thing.
    Unless I’ve misunderstood your post, I’d say you have not read the book. I don’t know why you’d say it’s an example of "hook and bait”. Don’t blame the article. I grabbed some passages from my Kindle edition.

    William Howard Hay, M.D. was someone that healed himself after fasting for months and went on to help others at great financial cost. And even when the establishment was non-stop at tearing down his reputation, he was unwavering in his integrity. Dr. Hay continued to educate others on healing themselves. He empowered people to empower themselves.
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    I really need to come back to this. I have just been diagnosed with CHF.
    Sorry to hear about your CHF, and I am sure you can recover.

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    I can relate to this because this is exactly what I am doing by instinct. twice a week fast or 30 day fast (Ramadan) are all crap. again this article is a clear example of "hook and bait". fast is good but then make it twice a week or 30 days and then you get the bad thing. only our senses can tell us if we need fast or we have done enough fast. My fast consist of drinking water at first knock of hunger I do this again until hunger knock every 5 to 10 minutes only then I eat. fasting more than two days starts killing my cells. But its only for me yours is different. Point is dont listen to anyone but your senses.
    Quote I can relate to this because this is exactly what I am doing by instinct. twice a week fast or 30 day fast (Ramadan) are all crap.
    For myself, it’s good to keep an open mind. What worked before no longer does. That and I’d add, everyone’s different. Even though I’ve eaten the macrobiotic way for more than 30 years and now mainly do whole foods, I’m flexible on those days where I need to do junk.

    The 8 day water fast was enough for me to know, I don’t need to go that long again. But I’ll not rule it out.

    Quote again this article is a clear example of "hook and bait". fast is good but then make it twice a week or 30 days and then you get the bad thing.
    Unless I’ve misunderstood your post, I’d say you have not read the book. I don’t know why you’d say it’s an example of "hook and bait”. Don’t blame, as you called it, the article. I grabbed some passages from my Kindle edition. It really isn’t a fair representation of the book. It’s a book that I’ve twice read and yesterday I finally obtained a reasonably priced physical copy.

    William Howard Hay, M.D. was someone that healed himself after fasting for months and went on to help others at great financial cost. And even when the establishment was non-stop at tearing down his reputation, he was unwavering in his integrity. Dr. Hay continued to educate others on healing themselves. He empowered people to empower themselves.

    From the first page of "Health via Food" (1929):

    BY — WILLIAM HOWARD HAY, M. D.

    NEW YORK UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF MEDICINE, 1891
    Medical Director EAST AURORA SUN AND DIET SANATORIUM, INC.

    SUN-DIET HEALTH SERVICE, INC. EAST AURORA, NEW YORK Copyright, 1929
    SUN-DIET HEALTH SERVICE All Foreign Rights Reserved
    • First Printing, June, 1929
    • Second Printing, March, 1930
    • Third Printing, December, 1930
    • Fourth Printing, June, 1931
    • Fifth Printing, January, 1932

    THIS COPY OF PUBLIC DOMAIN MATERIAL WAS MADE BY THE SOIL AND HEALTH LIBRARY FOR THE PURPOSES OF STUDY ONLY, FOR THE USE OF ITS PATRONS.
    I can relate to your post because thats exactly what i am doing. I presume thats the content of the book you are referring to. The article I am referring to is the one with a twice a day fast and the ramadan.

    "But its only for me yours is different. Point is dont listen to anyone but your senses."
    you also seem to miss this from my post above

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    Default Re: Neuroscientist Shows what Fasting Does to Your Brain & why Big Pharma won't study it

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    you also seem to miss this from my post above
    Apologies for the miscomprehension, Bubu.
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    you also seem to miss this from my post above
    Apologies for my miscomprehension, Bubu.
    no problem maybe my poor English is to blame also

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