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    Default Raging blaze in Portugal: Death toll rising from major forest fire, 17/18 June 2017

    This tragedy surprised me as I look at the headline page , we are having a mini
    heat wave here in the UK but nothing on this scale with the rapid spread of several
    fires it has caught many people out as they travelled through the area.


    Portugal forest fires: Three days of mourning for 61 victims

    short vid on link...
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40320411

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    Portugal: Drone captures the devastation of deadly Pedrogao Grande forest fires



    Raging blaze: Death toll rising as major forest fire sweeps through Portugal

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    At least 61 die in Portugal forest fires - Louisa Pilbeam reports

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NZriNXh7K4
    Many of the victims died while trapped in their cars as flames swept over a road
    between the towns of Figueiro dos Vinhos and Castanheira de Pera.
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    Default Re: Raging blaze in Portugal: Death toll rising from major forest fire, 17/18 June 2017

    Omg. Thanks for posting this. I can't imagine how scary, painful and traumatic for the Portueguese, particularly the survivors and victim's families.

    No such thing as global warming??? Proof positive is all around us.

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    Default Re: Raging blaze in Portugal: Death toll rising from major forest fire, 17/18 June 2017

    I don't think we can say it's a result of global warming. We get freak dry spells in Florida too, when strong high pressure centers move in, meaning no rain and low humidity; temps go into the 90s; and brush fires begin. We just came out of such a spell, with brush fires burning across the state. No one here seems to pointing to global warming. Anyway, my thoughts go out to Portugal.

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    Default Re: Raging blaze in Portugal: Death toll rising from major forest fire, 17/18 June 2017

    If the data is accurate,in the following link are some statistics in pdf format regarding wood fires.For example 1994-1996.
    And being sarcastic at the end of "burning season" they will celebrate:
    "Your planet is forbidden for an open visit - extremely aggressive social environment,despite almost perfect climatic conditions.Almost 4 billion violent deaths for the last 5000 years and about 15000 major military conflicts in the same period."

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    Default Re: Raging blaze in Portugal: Death toll rising from major forest fire, 17/18 June 2017

    I remember reading somewhere that with all the changes which are going to happen 'the fires will be the worst'... the days are upon us!

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    Portugal forest fire: 12 survive by hiding in a water tank

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    Many residents were left stranded as the fire blocked roads

    Twelve people survived one of Portugal's deadliest fires by seeking
    refuge in a water tank after access to their village was cut off by the blaze.

    The residents, including a disabled 95-year-old woman, spent more
    than six hours in the tank as the fire prevented them from being rescued.

    "If it wasn't for this, we would all have died," one of the survivors said.

    The fires in central Portugal left 62 dead, many of them inside their
    cars as they tried to flee.Numerous fires were still raging on several
    fronts, stretching Portugal's civil protection force to its limits. Outbreaks
    were reported in two more central regions, Castelo Branco and Coimbra.

    'Let me die on the floor'

    Maria do Céu Silva was hailed as a hero after using her house's water
    tank to rescue the residents of Nodeirinho, next to the IC8 motorway,
    which was badly hit by the fire.

    read more.....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40324006

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    Default Re: Raging blaze in Portugal: Death toll rising from major forest fire, 17/18 June 2017

    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)

    No such thing as global warming??? Proof positive is all around us.
    Global warming, yes. Man-made global warming, perhaps not.
    “The sign of intelligence is that you are constantly wondering. Idiots are always dead sure about every damn thing they are doing in their life.” ~Vasudev

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    Portugal: Forest Fires (19 June 2017)

    from International Federation of Red Cross And Red Crescent Societies
    Published on 19 Jun 2017



    http://reliefweb.int/map/portugal/po...s-19-june-2017

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    Portugal Forest Fires: At Least 61 Dead In Nation’s Worst Fire In Decades | NBC Nightly News



    Published on 19 Jun 2017
    Portugal declared three days of national mourning on Sunday as Portuguese Prime
    Minister Antonio Costa called the disaster "the biggest tragedy of human life that
    we have known in years."

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    Phys.org - News and articles...

    Portugal, a country helplessly prone to forest fires

    June 19, 2017 by Barry Hatton And Ciaran Giles


    As the temperature began to soar across the Iberian peninsula last week, everyone
    knew it was only a matter of time before fires started—they've become a summer
    fixture. But this time they came with a vengeance, one in Pedrogao Grande in north
    central Portugal killing 62 people—the country's worst forest fire tragedy on record.

    Here's a look at why Portugal seems helplessly prone to the phenomenon and what
    lessons it might be able to learn.

    readmore...
    https://phys.org/news/2017-06-portug...ne-forest.html

    British citizen Daniel Starling walks among the debris of his burnt house in the
    village of Figueira, near Pedrogao Grande, central Portugal, Monday, June 19 2017.
    Raging forest fires in central Portugal killed tens of people, many of them trapped
    in their cars as flames swept over roads Saturday evening. (AP Photo/Armando Franca),
    https://phys.org/news/2017-06-portug...ne-forest.html
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    Portugal fire: Soaring temperatures threaten firefighting effort

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    Reuters

    Many people have lost their homes to the flames

    Soaring temperatures threaten efforts to bring a raging forest fire in
    Portugal under control, officials say.The week's highest temperatures
    of around 38C (100F) are expected on Tuesday and together with windy
    conditions could reignite fires already quelled.Civil protection officials
    say although 70% of the fire is under control, what remains is a source
    "of great concern".

    At least 64 people have died in the fires since Saturday.

    The latest of the victims was identified as a 40-year-old firefighter
    who died in hospital.Many died inside their cars or a short distance away
    from them as they tried to flee. More than 130 other people have been injured.

    The government has declared a state of emergency in the forested region
    around Pedrógão Grande, north-east of the capital, Lisbon.Civil Protection
    commander Elisio Oliveira said there was great concern for the fires still
    burning. He described the operation as "complex" and said many residents
    were being forced to evacuate.More than 1,000 firefighters are tackling the
    blaze which continues to rage on several fronts.

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40336622

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