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    Default Re: Gaia TV: Nazca 3-fingered 'alien mummies'?

    Based on the link Nick provided it does not look as if the people involved with this have any credibility at all (not surprising - given the manner of the investigation). Does the mummy/dummy actually have any human remains inside it? If so then somewhere some laws have probably been broken. The hoax story might be nearly as interesting as if it was a real mummy.

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    Jay starts off by saying they gave samples to 4 different labs in for different
    countries and the results have come back that this creature is new type of
    species. Jeff mentions the article below and they discuss it and Jay explains
    his thoughts that you can only stay open minded at this stage unless you
    have already come to your own conclusions with the evidence so far.......

    Later Jay explains how he came to be introduced to the mummy and his
    reaction also the procedures they took and found Maria to be a new species...


    RT Articles....

    'Alien' mummies from Peru have human chromosome numbers, but not anatomy – scientists
    Published time: 13 Mar, 2018 03:26 ..Edited time: 15 Mar, 2018 00:09

    Russian researchers have analyzed tissue samples from one of the mysterious alien
    creatures uncovered in Peru last year. The mummy, with an elongated skull and
    only three fingers, has excited ufologists since its discovery.

    EDITORIAL NOTE: This story has been updated with information on Konstantin
    Korotkov's questionable past research to give readers a better perspective on his
    claims about the Peruvian mummies.

    Preliminary analysis of the tissue samples revealed that the mummy, found in a
    tomb near the Nazca lines of Peru and named Maria, is a “humanoid being” with 23
    pairs of chromosomes – so far, so human. It dates back to about the 5th century
    AD, a full millennium before Europeans discovered America.

    A professor of the National Research University in St. Petersburg, Konstantin
    Korotkov, and Natalya Zaloznaya, radiologist and specialist in computer
    tomography at the International Biological Systems Institute, collected the tissue
    samples in Peru and brought them back to St. Petersburg for analysis

    Read more...https://www.rt.com/news/421098-peru-alien-mummy-dna/



    Jeff & Jay Weidner - 3 Fingered ET Mummy Found In Peru



    Published on 17 Mar 2018
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    Default Re: Gaia TV: Nazca 3-fingered 'alien mummies'?

    I think we already know this ? but as my mind is on other political topics I
    cannot remember... The main reason for posting is it is on the
    main BBC headline page which is odd for a story like this......




    Origin of 'six-inch mummy' confirmed

    2 hours ago...22/3/18


    The genome study uncovers possible reasons for the skeleton's unusual features

    Tests on a six-inch-long mummified skeleton from Chile confirm that it represents
    the remains of a newborn with multiple mutations in key genes.Despite being the
    size of a foetus, initial tests had suggested the bones were of a child aged six to
    eight.These highly unusual features prompted wild speculation about its origin.

    Now, DNA testing indicates that the estimated age of the bones and other
    anomalies may have been a result of the genetic mutations.Details of the work
    have been published in the journal Genome Research.

    In addition to its exceptionally small height, the skeleton had several unusual
    physical features, such as fewer than expected ribs and a cone-shaped head.
    The remains were initially discovered in a pouch in the abandoned nitrate mining
    town of La Noria. From there, they found their way into a private collection in Spain.

    Some wondered whether the remains, dubbed Ata after the Atacama region where
    they were discovered, could in fact be the remains of a non-human primate. A
    documentary, called Sirius, even suggested it could be evidence of alien visitations.


    read more...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-43489246
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    Default Re: Gaia TV: Nazca 3-fingered 'alien mummies'?

    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)

    An interesting discussion between Jay Weidner and Jeff Rense. Weidner expresses disappointment and bafflement that the alt community hasn't taken the story to their hearts, and Rense suggests that all the nay-sayers must surely be paid shills. Weidner responds that he can't understand the Cabal's need to silence the three-fingered mummy claims.

    But neither can understand the dynamics at play here.

    As Cidersomerset pointed out immediately above (in the post following the Weidner-Rense video), the tiny being showcased in the documentary Sirius now seems to have been a highly strange, deformed human. (That's been authoritatively stated before, of course.) False claims like that — by Steven Greer et al — don't help Weidner one bit. Neither seems to make, or be aware of, the connection.

    Then, there's the Corey Goode saga, which Gaia have milked for all the $$ they could. Weidner bears a great deal of responsibility for that, and he's made himself look very foolish. Neither he nor Rense go there, to talk about the need for impeccable reputation in what Weidner keeps referring to as 'science'.

    There's an even bigger picture, which the above mini-dramas have all contributed to. We see that in the widespread reaction to Tom DeLonge and the three unimpressive videos so far released to the media, amid (a) VERY poor marketing skill or awareness, and (b) much hype of totally the wrong kind.

    The result has been a series of big yawns from almost everyone paying any attention.

    What does this all mean? Both the alt community AND the mainstream community are strangely united in being tired, to the point of sometimes numbed exhaustion, of falsehoods, unintelligence, errors, exaggeration, the ego-driven cult of celebrity, and the contamination of legitimate research areas by fraudsters and showmen.

    Fake news, in other words. And as in the Wolf Wolf story, what's real gets ignored.

    If I had the fortune to take a really good photo of the Wawa Grande (Ecuador's Bigfoot: see this thread) — I think I might well keep it to myself.
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    Default Re: Gaia TV: Nazca 3-fingered 'alien mummies'?

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)

    An interesting discussion between Jay Weidner and Jeff Rense. Weidner expresses disappointment and bafflement that the alt community hasn't taken the story to their hearts, and Rense suggests that all the nay-sayers must surely be paid shills. Weidner responds that he can't understand the Cabal's need to silence the three-fingered mummy claims.

    But neither can understand the dynamics at play here.

    As Cidersomerset pointed out immediately above (in the post following the Weidner-Rense video), the tiny being showcased in the documentary Sirius now seems to have been a highly strange, deformed human. (That's been authoritatively stated before, of course.) False claims like that — by Steven Greer et al — don't help Weidner one bit. Neither seems to make, or be aware of, the connection.

    Then, there's the Corey Goode saga, which Gaia have milked for all the $$ they could. Weidner bears a great deal of responsibility for that, and he's made himself look very foolish. Neither he nor Rense go there, to talk about the need for impeccable reputation in what Weidner keeps referring to as 'science'.

    There's an even bigger picture, which the above mini-dramas have all contributed to. We see that in the widespread reaction to Tom DeLonge and the three unimpressive videos so far released to the media, amid (a) VERY poor marketing skill or awareness, and (b) much hype of totally the wrong kind.

    The result has been a series of big yawns from almost everyone paying any attention.

    What does this all mean? Both the alt community AND the mainstream community are strangely united in being tired, to the point of sometimes numbed exhaustion, of falsehoods, unintelligence, errors, exaggeration, the ego-driven cult of celebrity, and the contamination of legitimate research areas by fraudsters and showmen.

    Fake news, in other words. And as in the Wolf Wolf story, what's real gets ignored.

    If I had the fortune to take a really good photo of the Wawa Grande (Ecuador's Bigfoot: see this thread) — I think I might well keep it to myself.
    Very well said! Jay may be a very nice person, and his company is unfortunately now associated with some very poor public image disasters. One after another.

    His commentary about the cabal’s need to silence the 3 fingered mummy sounds like it comes right out of David wilcock’s next blog post. Gaia employee as well. And now Jaime moussan is associated with Gaia as well.. and therefore Jay. They keep digging this credibility hole for themselves. Since they are in the entertainment business, they’re not selling truth— and Jay seems to have forgotten about the public BS detector.



    Bill, I have high hopes that you’ll take a great photo of Wawa Grande

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    A request for an update from anyone with a Gaia subscription.

    Is it known what the current Gaia position is on this?

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    Quote A request for an update from anyone with a Gaia subscription.
    Is it known what the current Gaia position is on this?
    They still seem optimistic this may not be human or a hoax , but could be a
    sub species or something else ?....


    There's a 16 min update vid on link below from Gaia web page dated June 2018...

    Update 7: The Next Sequence

    Unearthing Nazca..June 2018S1:Ep9....16 min vid on link...
    https://www.gaia.com/video/update-7-...player=feature

    ================================================== ==
    ================================================== ==

    This is different from vid on link above....

    Nazca | DNA Results + Debunking The Headlines


    Published on 1 Jun 2018
    Watch the full update on the new DNA results here: https://bit.ly/2HbQ1kO

    New DNA results are in on the Nazca mummies. While a number of publications
    have claimed to know the truth about these three-fingered beings, the actual
    research is still in progress... and the preliminary results are incredible.
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    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    I think we already know this ? but as my mind is on other political topics I
    cannot remember... The main reason for posting is it is on the
    main BBC headline page which is odd for a story like this......




    Origin of 'six-inch mummy' confirmed

    2 hours ago...22/3/18


    The genome study uncovers possible reasons for the skeleton's unusual features

    Tests on a six-inch-long mummified skeleton from Chile confirm that it represents
    the remains of a newborn with multiple mutations in key genes.Despite being the
    size of a foetus, initial tests had suggested the bones were of a child aged six to
    eight.These highly unusual features prompted wild speculation about its origin.

    Now, DNA testing indicates that the estimated age of the bones and other
    anomalies may have been a result of the genetic mutations.Details of the work
    have been published in the journal Genome Research.

    In addition to its exceptionally small height, the skeleton had several unusual
    physical features, such as fewer than expected ribs and a cone-shaped head.
    The remains were initially discovered in a pouch in the abandoned nitrate mining
    town of La Noria. From there, they found their way into a private collection in Spain.

    Some wondered whether the remains, dubbed Ata after the Atacama region where
    they were discovered, could in fact be the remains of a non-human primate. A
    documentary, called Sirius, even suggested it could be evidence of alien visitations.


    read more...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-43489246

    Experts Say Recent ‘Alien’ Mummy Study Was Deeply Flawed and Unethical

    Earlier this year, scientists from Stanford University in the US concluded that a strange skeleton known as the Atacama Mummy belonged to a human girl whose physical malformations were the result of several severe genetic mutations. A team of international experts is now questioning these findings, and accusing the scientists of breaching standard research ethics.
    The Atacama Mummy, or Ata as it’s known, was discovered 15 years ago in a deserted Chilean town in the Atacama Desert. The specimen is only about six inches long, it’s missing a pair of ribs, and it has a highly deformed head and face. Naturally, some UFOlogists figured the mummy was of extraterrestrial origin, prompting its appearance in a short documentary.
    Scientific research suggested otherwise. A 2013 paper led by Garry Nolan, an immunologist at Stanford University, concluded that Ata was human, and that the skeleton’s bones gave the impression that it was between the age of six and eight years old when it died, though such an age would have be impossible. Earlier this year, Nolan, along with colleague Atul Butte, director of the Institute for Computational Health Sciences at the University of California-San Francisco, conducted a follow-up analysis. This paper, published in the science journal Genome Research, presented evidence showing that a series of genetic mutations were responsible for the strange features seen in the malformed specimen. The researchers concluded that Ata was a girl of Chilean descent who was a developing fetus at the time of her death, and that she suffered from a rare bone-aging disorder.

    Within days of the study being published, a controversy emerged. The Chilean National Monuments Council launched an investigation, saying the mummy’s remains may have been acquired through illegal smuggling and grave robbing, and that the research was wholly inappropriate. Some Chilean scientists went so far as to say that Genome Research paper should be retracted.

    Now, some four months after the paper was published, Nolan and Butte are facing another attack, this time from an international team of experts led by Sian Halcrow from the University of Otago, New Zealand. Their new paper, published today in the International Journal of Paleopathology, claims that Nolan’s research is replete with errors and misinterpretations, and that a genetic study probably shouldn’t have been conducted in the first place.

    More from article ... http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2018/07/exp...and-unethical/

    The New Paper https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...548?via%3Dihub
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    Earlier this week Peru had a 5-hour conference on the analysis of the three fingered mummies. A summary is posted here: https://www.segnidalcielo.it/mummie-...mmia-josefina/

    Thoughts/comments?

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    Default Re: Gaia TV: Nazca 3-fingered 'alien mummies'?

    If I am not mistaken, they have been proven fake - a little reseach maybe??

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    Three Fingered Mummies - Why No Discussion?
    There's quite a lot of discussion on this June 2017 thread, into which I've just merged this new post. Thank you!

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    I haven't seen any debunking and there is a lot of information here that would point to authenticity.

    Any additional information would be appreciated

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    It is like everything, if you dig too deep in a subject you will find the answer , but like all is interconnected with everything , dark side will not let this go any further, cause to admit it will lead to admit aliens are real, and so on , the whole lie will fall .

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    Nov 19, 2018 Press conference in Lima



    Lima (Peru) - As announced, researchers and scientists who have been studying unusual dry mummies for months, allegedly found near Nazca and with characteristics that are in part very different from known human body shapes, have presented their latest results at a presentation and press conference. However, the controversy over the origin and nature of the three-legged white mummies has still not been settled.

    Although, as already reported, the conference took place in the official building of the Congress of the Republic and under the patronage of (Peruvian) Congressman Armando Villanueva, the politician remained the only official representative of the government and admitted that the Ministry of Culture had officially rejected the invitation to participate in the two events.

    The main problem in dealing with the finds is likely to lie in the unofficial methods of investigation, some of which have passed recognised scientific protocols, and some of which are also carried out by lay researchers and scientists in fields of research not directly affected. A large number of mummy researchers and archaeologists had already criticized the handling of mummies, accused unethical falsifications of historical human body parts and demanded legal steps against the investigators and journalists involved.

    Irrespective of this, however, the participants now presented journalists, researchers and scientists with the previous and latest results of a large number of investigations, initially in the form of a presentation lasting almost five hours (!), and then in a press conference they answered the questions of journalists present and scientists and researchers not involved in the investigations.

    Quote In consideration of the almost 5-hour presentation and the 1.5-hour press conference, here are the most important results and conclusions of the researchers involved in the investigations in a strongly shortened and uncommented summary:

    - The DNA tests on genetic material of the small mummies show no relationship to known human forms or animals.

    - The bones of the mummies are hollow but stable and strong, similar to the structure of bird bones. There are clear signs of wear and tear on the joints, suggesting that they are advanced age beings and that they have actually lived, and that the mummies were not later so prepared by different animal or human parts.

    - 3D scans of the inside of the mummies show that the bones, organs, muscle and fat tissues, and in the case of one of the small mummies, the eggs, are at the correct anatomical positions in the body and were functional parts of once actually living beings.

    - The data obtained do not correspond to any life form known to us, which is why it is very likely a species that has developed independently of us humans.

    - The characteristics within the body of the mummy known as "Josefina", which appear like eggs, vary in size, so it is suspected that they are eggs at different stages of development.
    The almost 5-hour presentation (Spanish)...



    The press conference, also in Spanish,...



    Source of German report: https://www.grenzwissenschaft-aktuel...nazca20181122/
    Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator

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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    If I am not mistaken, they have been proven fake - a little reseach maybe??
    They may not be fake but the location of their finding is allegedly none of those publicly quoted but somewhere deep in mines, on border of Peru and Chile.

    Not an open access place but mines, which means that a/they may be much older than they seem

    b/there won’t be any open research to the location possible

    c/establishing their history and composition will be difficult and puzzling ,

    not to mention that mines often collapse

    Many of the mommies seem to be combined of different human bones in addition to remaining biological remnants of other origin.

    Looking at it from anthropological and human cultural perspective at the same time it could be suggestive of the idea that they were given “honorable burial” by some older human culture who were their contemporaries and who is possibly unknown to us considering their true age is mystery.

    It could mean that a particular group of humanoid visitors travelled or even crash landed in that area long ago and possibly, suffered serious injuries before they perished.
    Lack of tools or inscriptions does not help to identify them but the fact they were skillfully reconstructed to “whole shape” after their death could be strong indicative that they were benevolent and advanced and made sense to the local human culture.
    They’d more likely die of low oxygen or other unknown biochemical conditions that would not affect humans.


    This ancient reconstruction of bones and mineral momification protocol by natives may also point to the fact that their bodies were more vulnerable and the group was small and very rare ( therefore they’d want to keep the remains for posterity).

    Other than that ...they’d have to find the spacecraft to make sense of it.


    Comes from backpipe channels and ..my opinion .. wish there was more.


    Thanks for patience

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    Latest from Peru!

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    UFO Research NSW Incorporated

    Flor Amanowicz | Update on the Mystery of the Nazca Mummies

    Published 4th July 2019



    Flor Amanowicz, has just returned from Peru, where she has been interfacing with the scientists, involved in the case and is very keen to give us the low down into her recent research and discoveries.

    The mummies were allegedly discovered near the city of Nazca in Peru, by ‘Mario’ and his friends in 2014. They do not appear human with their elongated necks, large eye sockets and three fingers and three toes.

    https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/

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