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    Default Re: The COLLINS ELITE: Nick Redfern, Ray Boeche, and interdimensional, demonic 'aliens' - that the deep insiders may know all about

    Thanks Foxie! Yes my father was a minister in the Church of England, like Ray Boeche, and I thought they are normally quite liberal in their research, which is why I was surprised that he made no reference to the Archons. But that world is so far behind me that I dont really know where they sit with the Nag Hammadi.

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    Default Re: The COLLINS ELITE: Nick Redfern, Ray Boeche, and interdimensional, demonic 'aliens' - that the deep insiders may know all about

    Just to keep things even, I've heard the opposite of "true believers". That if you believe in one of the organized religions it is far easier to divert your soul's journey and trap it. You are already predisposed to the idea of an afterlife and are expecting an encounter. When the encounter happens those that believe are eager to follow instructions. If those instructions are from an evil entity then you're pooched.

    Religion is pre-conditioning to recycle the soul to another round in this hell-hole.

    It is best to question any encounter on the soul journey back to Source. No guidance is required to reach the final, only and proper destination.

    Returning to Source is natural. Being interrupted on the way is not. Why? Because we never left the Source so the journey is short. It is the detour back to another round on Earth that takes time.
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    Default Re: The COLLINS ELITE: Nick Redfern, Ray Boeche, and interdimensional, demonic 'aliens' - that the deep insiders may know all about

    Great points Ernie, I enjoyed what you expressed.

    The Zen people say that if you run across Buddha along the way(to your true nature/source/etc), kill him immediately. My understanding of this is to not let any internal middle men (or any one or thing else) distract you from your so called return to source.

    They also say that source is not even a hairs breath away. It is always there just awaiting recognition or rediscovery. No need to become just be.
    ISness is my business..

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    Default Re: The COLLINS ELITE: Nick Redfern, Ray Boeche, and interdimensional, demonic 'aliens' - that the deep insiders may know all about

    I cannot say I am "surprised" that governments or elements of governments would try just about anything to gain advantage. UFO's, aliens, demons, fallen angels....... It strikes me as not entirely coincidental that the USA aggressively pursues ancient writings recalling they make a beeline for Museums when they invade "liberate" middle Eastern Countries. Something of value and interest must be there.

    Apparently some drugs open one up to "possession" ( alcohol etc) and some others Like Ayuaska are good to see/enter the world beyond our own. I wondered if some "mental illnesses" are just actually being able to see/hear the world beyond. Would be maddening if one could not turn it off.

    Considerable "research" was done with drugs...for good or ill. We don't always have ready access to wise guides or Shaman anymore. The churches saw them as threats I expect.
    Has anyone linked this with CERN purportedly punching holes in the fabric of our reality? I recall some odd video of a ritual sacrifice there....not that I believe it, but I'd not be surprised.

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    Default Re: The COLLINS ELITE: Nick Redfern, Ray Boeche, and interdimensional, demonic 'aliens' - that the deep insiders may know all about

    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)

    Religion is pre-conditioning to recycle the soul to another round in this hell-hole.
    I wouldn't really consider this a "hell hole" - I see tremendous beauty and opportunity, even in the ashes of despair and destruction. We would not know Love without hate, up without down, right without left etc etc.
    Existence in my mind was created by higher thought.
    The very concept of "nothing" could only exist with the concept of "something".
    Free will is both a blessing and a curse.
    We are in school and we don't always understand the lessons, the teacher, or why we are given the cane sometimes !

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    Default Re: The COLLINS ELITE: Nick Redfern, Ray Boeche, and interdimensional, demonic 'aliens' - that the deep insiders may know all about

    Good way of putting it, thanks.

    When I speak of the "hellhole" I am referring to this society, not reality in general. Yes, life is good, but soured by this modern society that seeks to control us by the exact thing you believe we are here for: school.

    School conditions the populace, and not in a good way, either. We are taught to respect authority unquestioningly no matter how insane their decrees might be. We are taught to work - and work, and work some more. Lack of sleep is the most common cause of all disease and of aging. And what they teach is taught as facts, even though most are merely conjecture that have yet to be falsified.

    Also, "school" here trains the average person to hate learning, which is also good for the establishment. I know of very few people who research anything in detail and know almost nothing about anything in this world, let alone further afield.

    These are our educated masses. They go to school for twelve years at least and come out knowing nothing beyond basics. They will never have a single original thought or even once consider learning a new skill just for the fun of it.

    If this place is a school, as you claim, we must be the slowest learners in all the universe. I reject that idea.

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    Default Re: The COLLINS ELITE: Nick Redfern, Ray Boeche, and interdimensional, demonic 'aliens' - that the deep insiders may know all about

    How about a 'school' in which to learn even more about forgiveness, compassion, understanding and LOVE? I know how this sounds, but perhaps this is what it's this journey of the soul is all about?

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    Quote Posted by Bayareamom (here)
    How about a 'school' in which to learn even more about forgiveness, compassion, understanding and LOVE? I know how this sounds, but perhaps this is what it's this journey of the soul is all about?
    That is the schooling I am really referring to.
    We need hate to understand love and visa versa etc - and we are given free will in this existence to exercise our own choices.
    Love Life.

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    Default Re: The COLLINS ELITE: Nick Redfern, Ray Boeche, and interdimensional, demonic 'aliens' - that the deep insiders may know all about

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    Quote Posted by Bayareamom (here)
    How about a 'school' in which to learn even more about forgiveness, compassion, understanding and LOVE? I know how this sounds, but perhaps this is what it's this journey of the soul is all about?
    That is the schooling I am really referring to.
    We need hate to understand love and visa versa etc - and we are given free will in this existence to exercise our own choices.
    Love Life.
    I don't buy into this "we are here to learn and grow" - bla-bla-bla.
    A spirit actually in essence really knows and knows anything deep down.
    Perhaps he says he doesn't sometimes - but this is because he decides it to be so.
    And on top of that there is that constructed amnesia which additionally keeps man enslaved.

    Beings didn't reincarnate here on earth to learn - no, quite the opposite!
    If you really decide to know and return to native full potential - you don't come to earth to do that!
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    Default Re: The COLLINS ELITE: Nick Redfern, Ray Boeche, and interdimensional, demonic 'aliens' - that the deep insiders may know all about

    The line that struck me was the one that suggested our belief was necessary for them (demons, aliens so forth) to manifest in our reality.

    John Keel's research suggested same.

    Looked upon from this angle, the government's policy of denial might be the most responsible approach they could take.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    In other words, they’re harvesting human souls,” he said, adding that the group believed that a strong religious viewpoint, such as Christian fundamentalism could keep the demonic entities at bay.
    I'd be careful, very careful, when religious fundamentalism is said to be the solution to anything.
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    Default Re: The COLLINS ELITE: Nick Redfern, Ray Boeche, and interdimensional, demonic 'aliens' - that the deep insiders may know all about

    This discussion leads me to thoughts on attachments having vibrational influence. So the idea would be that a spirit has a certain vibration and is exposed to vibrations that can attach and hence cause a vibrational downgrade or upgrade. In the idea of us witnessing UFOs that are actually demons, the destructive part would be that this demon exposes itself for the purpose of attaching and can when our soul has a certain vibrational complex actually succeed in attaching, hence causing a downgrade in the target soul's vibration as long as it remains attached. But you can then as a soul do things to defend against this kind of stuff being possible, for instance use your free will to accept baptism and hence your vibrational complex is now through the Christ influence in this act such that certain demons are unable to attach. (an idea on how this works technically, it could work differently also, I am just sharing some thoughts on what might be going on energetically speaking)

    In this case some UFOs such as those where there is a negative abduction experience involved could actually be an attack on a spirit's spiritual complex. Maybe these UFOs are physical but the beings inside them are such type of spirits we understand as demons that are basically trying to deceive very specific spirits towards vibrational downgrades, maybe in order to try to downgrade the vibration of the collective spirit of Earth as a whole in the process of gaining increased abilities of penetrating into our reality or have us move towards their... These are just some ideas I share...

    But considering that many abductions are said to be done on people in power you wonder whether these are steps taken to cause high precision spiritual vibrational downgrade to control the spiritual vibrations of the masses. This scenario seems to also align to the idea of blocking access to truthful content with certain vibrational footprints. There is for instance quite a lot of Christian music you cannot easily find in high quality on any online music service. It also fits well with this idea of globally spreading a lot of negative content across mainstream news media.

    One thing counters all of this though - the truth. We need to find out what is going on...
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    Default Re: The COLLINS ELITE: Nick Redfern, Ray Boeche, and interdimensional, demonic 'aliens' - that the deep insiders may know all about

    From the "Orion Model" as explained to Alex Collier:

    [...]
    25:30

    “Most people in government don’t really understand the real element of control here and that it’s extraterrestrial. They are aware of the human element. Those that have awareness of it, made a choice to succumb to this evil. I am sure that they were probably threatened and that their families were threatened, etc. Because we have inherited this problem. Those alive today inherited this problem. But this is the Orion Model.

    “This is what the Orions, both the human aspect of what’s the Anunaki are a part of and the Reptilian lineages used to do, hundreds and hundreds of millions of years ago when the colonization of galaxies was in its beginning and its infancy. I don’t even know how many years ago that was.

    “But this is the Orion Model: they would come in with different gods, they would separate the humanity of that planet. They would change their language. They would teach them a faith or a religion to separate them even more. Then they would use them to fight one another to build animosity and distrust.

    “That alone changes the entire harmonic of not only the race but the planet. They think holographically, they know this stuff. They know what it does, OK, because they have all this knowledge.

    “So, when you have planetary race and a planet vibrating at a low frequency, it is like a nesting zone for these guys. And when that’s done, what they then do is they corrupt, they create a priesthood to be the intermediaries between humanity and them because the more hidden they are, especially if they are regressive, the more stealth they are, the easier it is for them to manipulate.

    “So, they use their human priesthoods, or their priesthoods – I am assuming all the races are human; they are not -- to basically implement the strategy and the plan.

    “Once they have absolute control of a planet and the humanity on it and all the resources, just before they expose themselves, come forward and introduce themselves as gods, what they do is they eliminate all the people that helped them. All the priesthoods, all the intermediaries, all the middle management, they eliminate all of them so there is no one left to tell the story. And they erase history. Then the humanity on that particular planet is floundering around wondering “Who the hell are we?” “what’s true, what isn’t true? “How do you explain this?” “That religion says that.” It creates all this confusion and no one is on the same page and that’s exactly how they managed to control these planets.

    ““Ordo ab chao”

    “You cannot enslave a planet that is well educated and you have a humanity that knows who it is on high spiritual principles. You cannot enslave a race like that.”


    Now, in terms of "vibrations" and "frequency," "anger" is higher on the emotional scale than fear... and, so, for a collective, a revolution with its torches and pitchforks is on the path to higher "frequencies" from fear and slavery.
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    Interesting post Herve'. Through unconditional love we can heal and walk into the light.

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    Default Re: The COLLINS ELITE: Nick Redfern, Ray Boeche, and interdimensional, demonic 'aliens' - that the deep insiders may know all about

    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    From the "Orion Model" as explained to Alex Collier:

    [...]
    25:30

    “Most people in government don’t really understand the real element of control here and that it’s extraterrestrial. They are aware of the human element. Those that have awareness of it, made a choice to succumb to this evil. I am sure that they were probably threatened and that their families were threatened, etc. Because we have inherited this problem. Those alive today inherited this problem. But this is the Orion Model.

    “This is what the Orions, both the human aspect of what’s the Anunaki are a part of and the Reptilian lineages used to do, hundreds and hundreds of millions of years ago when the colonization of galaxies was in its beginning and its infancy. I don’t even know how many years ago that was.

    “But this is the Orion Model: they would come in with different gods, they would separate the humanity of that planet. They would change their language. They would teach them a faith or a religion to separate them even more. Then they would use them to fight one another to build animosity and distrust.

    “That alone changes the entire harmonic of not only the race but the planet. They think holographically, they know this stuff. They know what it does, OK, because they have all this knowledge.

    “So, when you have planetary race and a planet vibrating at a low frequency, it is like a nesting zone for these guys. And when that’s done, what they then do is they corrupt, they create a priesthood to be the intermediaries between humanity and them because the more hidden they are, especially if they are regressive, the more stealth they are, the easier it is for them to manipulate.

    “So, they use their human priesthoods, or their priesthoods – I am assuming all the races are human; they are not -- to basically implement the strategy and the plan.

    “Once they have absolute control of a planet and the humanity on it and all the resources, just before they expose themselves, come forward and introduce themselves as gods, what they do is they eliminate all the people that helped them. All the priesthoods, all the intermediaries, all the middle management, they eliminate all of them so there is no one left to tell the story. And they erase history. Then the humanity on that particular planet is floundering around wondering “Who the hell are we?” “what’s true, what isn’t true? “How do you explain this?” “That religion says that.” It creates all this confusion and no one is on the same page and that’s exactly how they managed to control these planets.

    ““Ordo ab chao”

    “You cannot enslave a planet that is well educated and you have a humanity that knows who it is on high spiritual principles. You cannot enslave a race like that.”


    Now, in terms of "vibrations" and "frequency," "anger" is higher on the emotional scale than fear... and, so, for a collective, a revolution with its torches and pitchforks is on the path to higher "frequencies" from fear and slavery.
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    Default Re: The COLLINS ELITE: Nick Redfern, Ray Boeche, and interdimensional, demonic 'aliens' - that the deep insiders may know all about

    What I keep finding in different avenues of research that I find quite disturbing is this idea of "soul harvesting" and the fact that all of our waking lives we hear about "the light" and that we should go to it when transitioning from this life to the next. Is this a cunning ruse keep our souls locked in this time space? Is there any credibility to this claim? Is this the way it has always been or is this a recent development? I have many questions and no answers...

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    Default Re: The COLLINS ELITE: Nick Redfern, Ray Boeche, and interdimensional, demonic 'aliens' - that the deep insiders may know all about

    Quote Posted by Kano (here)
    What I keep finding in different avenues of research that I find quite disturbing is this idea of "soul harvesting" and the fact that all of our waking lives we hear about "the light" and that we should go to it when transitioning from this life to the next. Is this a cunning ruse keep our souls locked in this time space? Is there any credibility to this claim? Is this the way it has always been or is this a recent development? I have many questions and no answers...
    There are a couple threads about the "trick" light tunnel. I found some good info on TrickedByTheLight.com too.

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    Default Re: The COLLINS ELITE: Nick Redfern, Ray Boeche, and interdimensional, demonic 'aliens' - that the deep insiders may know all about

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    Forgive me that I must make this post this way but.... I have an interesting story directly related to "this." (The Collins Elite and Nick Redfern). I must get back to Dallas to do so and hope that I am able to share my post sometime this coming weekend.
    I promised a post related to this writer, Nick Redfern, and the Collins Elite.

    This will need to be a two part post and I ask that no one post between part one and the 5 minutes I must wait to do part 2.


    Part 1 -

    It all started on July 4, 2013 when in the early morning and just before I had to go to work, I came upon this post –
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post697235

    The video is now “gone” but the short teaser about the Collins Elite woke up my synchronicity mechanism… well, at least I was soon to find out. And so let me mention that at this time of my life I was only 15 months “out of” the worst “dark night of the soul” event one might ever imagine. Yet, though I emerged from the pure despair of that state, what remained was this uncanny connection I experienced with anything related to “demonics.” And so see this video posted by Houman in the Horus-Ra thread… a thread that veterans here know is all about demonic/interdimensional “alien” information and experiences, my curiosity was on overdrive.

    So the theme here is demonics - especially when those demonics intersect with the relationship between an individual who is focused on that subject and their soon to experience synchronicities.

    So the table is set for what happened –

    I was working as a “medical courier” at the time and even though I wanted to listen to the full interview (which I had located in an internet search) I got my first job sent over…

    ...to a hospital just south of Highway 80 on Texas State Highway 352 called Baylor Scott and White Medical Center in Sunnyvale, Texas.

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    Later that evening when I came home I listened to the full interview and was fascinated about the Collins Elite. The fascination was based mostly on the suggestion that folks in high political positions actually believed there was an ongoing demonic intervention into humanity’s affairs, an unavoidable crescendo of events involving soul harvesting and that esoteric Christian methodologies could be employed to combat this invasion.

    Three days later (July 7) and on an unusual impulse, I decided to visit my sister in East Texas. This took me down the same Highway 80 as she lived near Canton. On my way home I found myself coming back through Sunnyvale again and noticed the sign for the highway I took three days before and it was at this moment I saw the obvious (that I had apparently missed three days before but also had missed earlier this day on the way to my sister’s home). The name of the street that is Highway 352 is called Collins Road.

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    So when I got home I listened to more discussions with Nick Redfern and felt really good about the guy and so two days later on July 9, I ordered Final Events.

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    Part 2 in the next post
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    Default Re: The COLLINS ELITE: Nick Redfern, Ray Boeche, and interdimensional, demonic 'aliens' - that the deep insiders may know all about

    Note a brief delay in posting Part 2 and here's why...

    I was editing the first post and just at the very moment I typed -

    "...an unavoidable crescendo of events involving soul harvesting..." a storm that had rapidly developed let out a load thunderclap and BAM, we experienced a power outage and fortunately I have a UPS and did not lose my work (which I had yet to save). Also, fortunately the lights came right back on but the internet had reset and so I was worried I may have lost some of my data yet unsaved... but it looks like all is good.

    But still and in light of the subject matter (and perhaps 'implications') of my post, this type of event at that very moment might raise a few eyebrows further.

    Anyways, Part 2 upcoming...
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    Default Re: The COLLINS ELITE: Nick Redfern, Ray Boeche, and interdimensional, demonic 'aliens' - that the deep insiders may know all about

    Part 2 -

    Over the next two months I read this book and was very drawn to the premise and very captivated by the suggestion that folks in the Bush 43 administration were also “believers” in the conclusions of the Collins Elite. But what I also discovered in reading the back of the book was that Nick Redfern had been living in Arlington, Texas – about a ½ hour or so from north Dallas where I lived.

    Because I had had so many uncanny experiences which had led me to making odds very high that much of what folks believe is “alien” activity is actually “demonic” activity. And because I had focused my studies along the lines of “the unexplained” I had long before taken notice of the phenomena of synchronicity and by this point had become quite a student of this phenomena. And lastly, because of my own strange experiences related to the JFK assassination and that I had discovered Nick’s earliest interests involved that event, I felt compelled to contact him in hopes he would allow me to meet with him, perhaps over lunch.

    I e-mailed Nick and he promptly replied and suggested that one day when he would be in Dallas (a monthly occurrence for him at that time for a few days each month) and we could meet for lunch. Because I always do my best to state facts, I had developed the habit of documenting so much and retaining all my e-mails. Why I mention this is because I just noticed that the very first e-mail I sent to Nick was on 9/11 of 2013. This is another interesting synchronicity because of the massive 9/11 sync I have shared (in part) in the past on this forum BUT… I must stay focused on this specific stream of the Collins Elite.

    As it turned out, Nick and I were able to meet but the plan had shifted (by my suggestion) to meet at a restaurant closer to his home city, Arlington. Nick said he would think of a place, but I was the one to suggest it because I have a habit that when I wish to experience a quiet lunch… where private conversation is easy… I always try and find a ‘non-chained’ Italian restaurant and so I google searched for such a place in Arlington.

    The first place that popped up was a place named Piccolo Mondo Italian Restaurant - http://piccolomondo.com/

    When I search on their “Contact Us” page for their location, I laughed when I saw the following… http://piccolomondo.com/?page_id=94

    “Located in the Whole Foods shopping center, it is just one block north of Highway 30 on the northwest corner of Lamar Blvd. and Collins St. (Hwy 157).”

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    We met for lunch in the early afternoon of Wednesday, December 11, 2013. Just to stay on track with the theme of this post, I won’t state anything about that lunch in this post other than to say it was an excellent experience and I am very grateful that Nick met with me.

    So the key elements of that meeting that relate to this post was our discussion of the unexplained in general and his grounded approach to things of this nature that he has explored, investigated and written about. And early on I brought up the phenomena of synchronicity and shared some of my own experiences related to it, some that had led me to meet with him. It was during this part of the discussion that he shared with me that synchronicity played an important role in his investigative process.

    Now at some point in the conversation, I happened to receive a phone call (that is rare to begin with) but a call I had to take noting that usually this caller (a friend and business associate of mine) almost always would text… never call. Anyways, because the matter was important, I briefly handled the call. Why I mention this is because at the end of our two hours together, Nick mentioned he gets over to Dallas from time to time and perhaps we would meet for a beer (he didn’t know I can’t drink)…

    ...but he then mentioned the restaurant he likes to go to over in Dallas which happens to be on a street named Greenville Avenue – a street famous for its restaurants, easily a few hundred or more can be found on or just off of this famous street. And then he spontaneously named the restaurant he loved to go to “every time I am in Dallas” which is named Dodie’s - and they have two locations, both on Greenville Avenue. The owner of these restaurants at that time… (and where the original Dodie’s is still in the hands of) is the very guy (and his father) who called me on the phone earlier and which was the only I call I had received.

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    So that synchronicity was essentially the primary subject we weaved in and out of and this extremely improbable synchronicity occurring, we both had a really good laugh.

    But the story doesn’t end there –

    The morning after my lunch with Nick I was on Skype speaking with someone on about the phenomena of synchronicity. Suddenly I got a call on my cell phone from a number I did not recognize but answered anyway. It turned out that it was an old associate/friend who I had worked with about 7 or so years before who just happened to have spoken with a mutual friend who had given him my number.

    He then asked me for something I thought was odd in our day and age… my address. So as to make sure he got it correctly, I asked him for an e-mail address so that I could e-mail it to him which I did. I also asked that he let me know he received the mail and not only did I get a reply but also, and for no reason at all, he gave me his own address which was, of course, on a street named – Collins Avenue.

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    So what is my point of the story. Guess what? I cannot say it now as I am involved in a research project where I wish not to influence where the project is headed.

    But just by writing this post, I suddenly feel the enthusiasm (once again) to begin the final phases of that project… wish us luck (yes, there’s an ‘us’ involved). - Sam
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