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    Default Re: Is Meditation Demonic?

    Makatao....having come from the "Bible Belt Mentality" myself I can understand your questioning. Avalon sources have allowed me to seek out answers & I hope you will take advantage of many posts from the past that will help you. If you were not questioning things, you would not be here!

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    Default Re: Is Meditation Demonic?

    Quote Posted by shijo (here)
    Quote Posted by conk (here)
    Is eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich demonic?
    After repeated consideration i would have to say yes.
    Don't we all kinda wanna "Jam" with the devil ?
    Last edited by Caliban; 29th June 2017 at 21:47.

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    Default Re: Is Meditation Demonic?

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    Quote Posted by Spiral (here)

    IMO he is a dangerous person who has been deceived.
    Oh, wow. Strong words for disagreeing with someone's personal revelation on meditation. Meditation is beautiful.

    I prefaced my remark with IMO which means "in my opinion" which is all I can claim it to be, you can't post something to engage discussion & then jump on someone who poses a different opinion !

    At least I watched the whole video lol, but on another note did you see all the demonic / illuminati symbolism he uses ?


    As for "meditation", as you can tell from the responses it's very subjective, some people think it's ruminating on something whilst listening to whale song & some think it's entering different realms.

    Science has shown that the real thing means entering a different brain wave state (they've hooked Tibetan monks up to machines) and at which point various things can happen depending on the brain state, you can enter the astral plane, the mental plane, you can remote view, if you are up to it you can enter the etheric & start playing with the big boys (not advised), & if you are advanced enough the causal plane awaits....

    Then you are opened up to abductions and what lies beyond,..... all of which those" who are interested" will lead you right into before you realise whats really going on.........
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    Default Re: Is Meditation Demonic?

    Your mind is more open when meditating, but is is also a heck of a lot more aware, so I would say, no, meditation and the demonic are very different. You have a better chance of apprehending your own shadow and any interfering thoughts sensations coming from your own unconscious (or who knows where else) while meditating.

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    Default Re: Is Meditation Demonic?

    "Is eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich demonic?" Not if the peanut butter is organic. :-)

    No point in going further into the demonic nature of the church. You will convince no one.

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    Default Re: Is Meditation Demonic?

    Quote Posted by shijo (here)
    Quote Posted by conk (here)
    Is eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich demonic?
    After repeated consideration i would have to say yes.
    Well, that explains a few things. My mother packed peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for me every day for lunch when I was a schoolboy.

    I can't stand em now
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    Default Re: Is Meditation Demonic?

    True meditation is keeping your mind clear, empty no thoughts, no sound, everything external is foreign, how can that be wrong ??? Controlling your mind is not demonic...
    Raiding the Matrix One Mind at a Time ...

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    I imagine that any altered state of consciousness that is not properly understood can lead to problems. Proper Guidance is key. Shamans set "guards" over their bodies when they enter trance states and often report fierce confrontations with enemy spirits. Almost every Holy Book has very stern warnings about the dangers of demons, spirits, possession and the like. Are they all wrong? Unlikely.

    What type of meditation, what chants, symbols or thought forms ( if any) are being used?
    Trance is different from meditation, seeking contact with "others" seems like opening a can of worms if unknowledgeable. I expect the same can be said for drugs and alcohol.

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    Default Re: Is Meditation Demonic?

    No.

    It is paying attention (utilizing executive functions of prefrontal cortex) to something you choose (breathing for example) and inhibiting impulses to pay attention to something else, scratching yourself etc. This strengthens areas that govern these functions and they add to your willpower in many other situations. Considered this way, meditation is being mindful and you can be mindful about eating your peanut butter jelly sandwich with your left hand instead of right hand and not lick your lips while doing it. This constitutes a meditative practice, which means that the answer is also no to Conks question

    Now if one considers meditation to be something completely different, letīs say smoking a ton of pot and listening to psychedelic drumming and thus getting oneself to some altered state of consciousness, then I am not sure.

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    Default Re: Is Meditation Demonic?

    I like TruthSeekah.

    I think meditation is safe but that is does open doors to the unknown. The unknown cannot be categorized and so a certain amount of caution is warranted. Safeguards should be considered.

    Like always, any endeavour is best approached armed with knowledge so studying the topic of meditation is wise.

    In the final analysis experience is the best teacher so if you try it remember to use your own intuition as your guide. Heed its guidance.

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    Quote Posted by conk (here)
    Is eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich demonic?
    Only if you use chunky peanut butter. Then they are wrong, wrong, wrong and demonic.

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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    I like TruthSeekah.

    I think meditation is safe but that is does open doors to the unknown. The unknown cannot be categorized and so a certain amount of caution is warranted. Safeguards should be considered.

    Like always, any endeavour is best approached armed with knowledge so studying the topic of meditation is wise.

    In the final analysis experience is the best teacher so if you try it remember to use your own intuition as your guide. Heed its guidance.
    Agreed. I like him as well. Love his post and podcasts.

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    Default Re: Is Meditation Demonic?

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    Is eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich demonic?
    Only if you use chunky peanut butter. Then they are wrong, wrong, wrong and demonic.
    No!!!! You're in great danger. You're being deceived by the Dark Side. It's totally the other way round.

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    Default Re: Is Meditation Demonic?

    In my understanding, there is an aggressive, opportunistic element to "archons". IMO the lower vibrational, lower astral malevolent entities are intrusive and deliberately destructive. Perhaps people like myself, who are spiritually naive or not so developed and grounded, become tantalizing opportunities for these archonic entities when we open ourselves up before we are spiritually grounded enough.
    I know this is what I fear about pursuing meditation. I know I am easy prey....

    Pamela

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