The Vision - Sustainable future

[bbow73]

Posted by LadyM (here)
Nicely put in a nutshell. This is just an idea -- and maybe others have discussed it -- but is it possible that the "oneness" that we are evolving or returning to [depending on if we are truly in a "fallen" state or not] is a collective that has optimized its energetic connections and cooperates for the good of all in every facet of society: education, physical and spiritual health, internal and external relations, etc.?

holy crap... that is some serious paradigm crushing meat you just put on the table. I'm going to have to think about that for a while.

[Baby Steps]

Posted by bbow73 (here)

Posted by LadyM (here)
Nicely put in a nutshell. This is just an idea -- and maybe others have discussed it -- but is it possible that the "oneness" that we are evolving or returning to [depending on if we are truly in a "fallen" state or not] is a collective that has optimized its energetic connections and cooperates for the good of all in every facet of society: education, physical and spiritual health, internal and external relations, etc.?

holy crap... that is some serious paradigm crushing meat you just put on the table. I'm going to have to think about that for a while.

I got a very synchronous quote from a friend that shows people are tapping in to the same vibe:

The end result of all community activity is that a person will then find a more authentic inner self, and reduce their selfish egos. In that sense it is the ideal preparation for what awaits us at the end of life, namely how to blend in with something greater, even as great as the universe as a whole.

Just beautiful. Thanks to all!

[Bubu]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
We really need leaders that are community minded, and have long since left war, power, greed ego, riches , etc ... No matter what steps are taken to better life for all, these maniacs Na ( political leaders) will show up with their rules, restrictions, fees, and control agenda ... rooting out the monsters must be first , then the sky is the limit, there are no boundaries to what mankind can achieve through hard work, and positive thinking. ..

you can be sure the one who shows up with their rules, restrictions, fees and control agenda are the monsters. no need to root them out with an extra effort. I think that's exactly what we been doing here on avalon and mostly what we get are confusions.
Mankind will eventually wake up to this vision we can help accelerate it by working towards that goal while avoiding all the nuisance.

"be the change you wanted to see"

[onawah]

I just discovered this great thread. Thanks! Will be back soon.

[Baby Steps]

I would like to ask people--

If you felt drawn to go back to a natural setting, and make a living on the land--

What would you do? How ? How do you envisage living? What economic activities would you get into?

If you made it already, how did you achieve it, what have you learned, how have you changed?

God bless

[Noelle]

Posted by Baby Steps (here)
I would like to ask people--

If you felt drawn to go back to a natural setting, and make a living on the land--

What would you do? How ? How do you envisage living? What economic activities would you get into?

If you made it already, how did you achieve it, what have you learned, how have you changed?

God bless

Good questions. I would hope the world that this "natural setting" is in has no "money." Are we allowed any beneficial technologies?

[Baby Steps]

Posted by LadyM (here)

Posted by Baby Steps (here)
I would like to ask people--

If you felt drawn to go back to a natural setting, and make a living on the land--

What would you do? How ? How do you envisage living? What economic activities would you get into?

If you made it already, how did you achieve it, what have you learned, how have you changed?

God bless

Good questions. I would hope the world that this "natural setting" is in has no "money." Are we allowed any beneficial technologies?

Hi,
Personally I would think so.

I am trying to transition by keeping one foot in the normal world, and building a business around something on the land. As the business gets established, it would become full time.

I am sure we would have our tech. In the long run, the community would be self sufficient, except for technology devices, and specialist health services probably- and would trade with the wider economy for that.

[Noelle]

In addition to contributing some sort of grown food to help maintain the sustenance of community members, gosh, there are just so many roles I would like to serve: teacher, writer, developing homeopathic remedies for the community and beyond. Maybe I would try to do them all.

[Baby Steps]

Posted by LadyM (here)
In addition to contributing some sort of grown food to help maintain the sustenance of community members, gosh, there are just so many roles I would like to serve: teacher, writer, developing homeopathic remedies for the community and beyond. Maybe I would try to do them all.

yes- homeopathy- would like to get into studying how water structures, and the H3O2 gel that can be produced, then have a place or learning - in an Eco setting. Esalen is very inspiring.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kVo92yoLhaY

A self sufficient teaching community.

I remember visiting Cambridge, and the layout was odd. The old colleges had large closed sections of land along the River. Like 'grounds'. I was told that in the early days, these colleges were self sufficient- food grown on site. One advantage would be that if a plague passed through the area, they just went into lock-down for a period. All the rich kids survived.

[Noelle]

Posted by Baby Steps (here)

Posted by LadyM (here)
In addition to contributing some sort of grown food to help maintain the sustenance of community members, gosh, there are just so many roles I would like to serve: teacher, writer, developing homeopathic remedies for the community and beyond. Maybe I would try to do them all.

yes- homeopathy- would like to get into studying how water structures, and the H3O2 gel that can be produced, then have a place or learning - in an Eco setting. Esalen is very inspiring.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kVo92yoLhaY

A self sufficient teaching community.

I remember visiting Cambridge, and the layout was odd. The old colleges had large closed sections of land along the River. Like 'grounds'. I was told that in the early days, these colleges were self sufficient- food grown on site. One advantage would be that if a plague passed through the area, they just went into lock-down for a period. All the rich kids survived.

It's great to see how it's possible to return to that of way of living. I'm sure there is an increasing number of examples of how to do it, and you've spotlight several here in this thread.

[Baby Steps]

Signs now of near apocalyptic climate instability coming in.


Since posing some ideas on this thread, footage and solid measurement of the growing changes is becoming unavoidable, and its in the mainstream.

What we are seeing, and its only going to increase:

- Footage of large flood plain floods in highly populated areas around major rivers
- Accounts of very high summer temperatures in many areas
- Flash floods caused by unusually heavy rains in local areas leading to human infrastructure being washed away
- Land slides & mud slides
- Severely abnormal sea temperatures in the North Atlantic + other locations
- Scientific consideration given to the likelihood of the Atlantic conveyor/gulf stream ending or severely reduced
- Large unprecedented melts in Greenland
- Destabilisation of Antarctic ice sheets

Ultimately this then plays into the hands of the catastrophizers we see in the green movement such as Greta Thunberg, Extinction rebellion etc. In my view, its now academic as to whether these changes are 100% CO2 driven or 0% CO2 driven or somewhere in the middle. The point is that its only going to get worse, and there is very little that Humanity can realistically do to make much difference. (in the short term)

The reasoning is that if we assume that the CO2 official Elites narrative is broadly correct, we do not know what the time lag is between potential reductions in Human emissions and any climate stabilisation that the highly speculative models suggest could happen. Its likely centuries or Millennia at best. The ocean is a huge carbon and thermal sink. On top of that is the delusion that taking decisive action in the the developed world to cut carbon emissions will overall reduce human carbon emissions. They do not cite any credible research supporting this assumption that they make. This is because there is explosive growth in carbon emissions in the third world & China. This is ultimately driven by the aspirations of those billions of Humans to prosper and better themselves materially.

So an estimate of when humanity will reach peak carbon emissions , assuming no catastrophic population reductions or war etc is 2050. According to the models therefore its going to continue getting worse. The bad effects obviously continue for centuries after overall CO2 emissions from Humans start to fall. The heating ocean continues to emit (or stop absorbing) giga-tonnes of Carbon long after Human emissions start to fall.

It is equally academic for we in the spiritual community to consider the possibility that at least a component of the changes may relate to little discussed effects relating to the position of the Solar system in relation to the Galactic plane, effects on the sun, and all kinds of other esoterica. These postulated effects cannot be changed by humanity.

So the message should be prepare and adapt.

I see the spiritual movement to create a kind of techie subsistence economy or 'localism' including local supply and production of the essentials of life locally, as our 'spidey sense' of what is needed. Naturally avoiding likely flood areas. There are lots of benign but intensive food production technologies emerging.

In a ideal world, the elites, who know exactly what is happening, could direct resources to the preparations.

The green catastrophizers who seek to control democracy and the economy with a view to destroying them are a front for the Evil Elite who seek absolute control and overt population reduction via multiple horrors. However the scenarios they pretend to want to stop are probably not so far from the truth.

These are :

- ever greater crop failures due to climate instability & freak weather leading to famine . This is currently being exacerbated by state attacks on farming.

- Eventually rising sea levels will reduce agricultural land area, and displace many

- Temperature changes likely to make some areas too hot or cold for the populations there to continue.

- Mass Migration will destabilise or destroy governments and life support systems in areas where Humans are surviving.

- Reduced food production in the developed world leads to famine, war, and migration in the third world

- Collapse of fisheries that so many depend on.

These upcoming chaotic factors will play into the hands of the deep green movement and their Elite backers.

ADAPTATION

If groups of people can build these new self reliant communities, their new systems can then serve as a model. These communities if sufficiently successful and wide spread can absorb some numbers of people.

The reality is that the elite wish to preserve the dis-functionality and unsustainability we have now, so its going to be a paradigm shift including some catastrophic collapse of life support systems. This includes loss of life. A smooth transition is very unlikely, they do not want that because it would save lives. They want the collapse. So the name of the game for the pro human actors is to build up these transition systems and serve as the example.

[Baby Steps]

Here's Russ George explaining his work to capture carbon.

Its well discussed. Its utilising rock dust with high iron content to fertilise the ocean. This triggers plankton blooms that capture vast amounts of CO2, into the calcium carbonate skeletons of these microorganisms, which then deposit onto the ocean bed.

The happy side effect is huge fisheries growth. People are looking to use this technique to boost fisheries, in a benign way.

For some totally inexplicable reason the Canadian Government attacked his office and confiscated his research. The elite do not want to see us solving these challenges.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=i4Hnv_ZJSQY

[Baby Steps]

So imagine sanity prevailed an this sequestration technique was mass adopted. Cost in the Hundreds of millions so less be several orders of magnitude than rebuilding energy systems.

Two possible outcomes would be either

a) Successful reduction of atmospheric CO2, followed by climate stabilisation
b) Successful reduction in atmospheric CO2 , followed by failure to detect any reduction in the climate change processes that are occurring.

Likely its b). This then discredits the deceptive Elite green agenda and leads to more realistic research into what is going on and how to reduce the chaos.

There are quite a few articles such as the below in the mainstream media and scientific press.

They read like an attempted take down of Russ's work. The justifications for this attempted take down sound spurious.


https://www.theguardian.com/environm...geoengineering

https://psmag.com/social-justice/bat...-climate-78957

[Baby Steps]

The Following links discuss the possibility of Duck Weed as a foodstuff. This is a high protein and carbohydrate super food, that grown in water. Its therefore super easy to fertilise, mineralise and integrate into aquaculture systems. Its likely that the yield per unit area is much higher than traditional farming methods.

https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4395/12/4/796

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...66833522000168

More from an AI:

Duckweed, those tiny aquatic plants, hold remarkable potential for various applications. Let’s dive into their fascinating features:

Nutritious Human Food:
Duckweed species are rich in essential nutrients, including high-quality protein (up to 45%) that provides all essential amino acids.
They also contain versatile carbohydrates like starch, cellulose, hemicellulose, and pectin.
Duckweed is abundant in minerals, vitamins, and beneficial phytochemicals such as lutein and β-carotene.
These phytochemicals are associated with reduced risk of chronic diseases.
Duckweed can be incorporated into conventional cereal-based foods by partially substituting wheat flour or used for extracting proteins and phytochemicals as functional ingredients1.

Biofuel Potential:
Duckweed grows without occupying land and accumulates large amounts of starch, a raw material for biofuel production.
Its annual growth rate can reach 12.4 g/m²/day (dry weight), and 1 hectare of duckweed can accumulate approximately 28 tons of starch per year2.

Animal Feed and Farmland Solution:
Duckweed’s protein production per harvested area surpasses soybean, rice, and corn.
It could help address farmland shortages for food and animal feed production.
Duckweeds contain starch, fatty acids, proteins, and other secondary metabolites used in food and feed industries3.

Future Food Source:
The fastest-growing duckweed strain can yield about 20 grams (when dried) per square meter per day—equivalent to 50 times the yield from corn.
Researchers are exploring its potential as a novel staple food4.
In summary, these tiny plants pack a punch! Whether it’s feeding astronauts, producing biofuels, or nourishing humans and animals, duckweed is a versatile superstar in the world of agriculture and nutrition