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    Looks like the Vatican's real stripes show through again:

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/395322...use-taskforce/

    THE Vatican police reportedly broke up a gay orgy in an apartment belonging to the department charged with tackling sexual abuse within the church.

    The occupant of the flat – in the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith – is said to be a secretary of Cardinal Francesco Coccopalmerio – a key adviser to the Pope.

    The cardinal is reported to have recommended his aide at one stage for promotion to the rank of bishop.

    However, those career plans are likely to be disrupted by news of the orgy and by a period spent recovering from a drug overdose in a Rome hospital and another in an Italian monastery.

    The shocking allegations – in Il Fatto Quotidiano – come just a week after Australian Cardinal George Pell was charged with a string of historic sexual offences in his homeland piling pressure on the Pope.

    He was appointed to clean up the Holy See’s finances as the Pope moves to make a number of reforms that have angered conservatives.

    The Pope’s reluctance to help in the case of terminally ill Charlie Gard has also angered conservatives, despite his expression of hope that Charlie’s parents can “accompany and treat their child until the end”.
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    This seems a convenient story to break out just at this time, in light of Joseph P. Farrell's recent story about the Cardinal Pell affair masking an attempted Rothschild/BIS takeover of the Vatican Bank.

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    Interesting... it's not just in the UK 'Sun' (which is quite a cheap and sensational 'tabloid'), but in many other newspapers worldwide.

    They all cite this source, a report in the Italian paper Il Fatto Quotidiano:
    Maybe someone who knows Italian can look at the paper's website, and see how reliable it appears to be.

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    What offences? Partying with young gay guys? As long as minors aren't being abused, it sounds like a good time is being had by all. Probably the worst offences within the Catholic Church were the result of sexual repression and arrested sexual development, manifesting as creepy creepy pedo behaviour.

    I say...let them play.

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    What I caught in my broken (in fact very bad) italian, is that it was a gay party with drugs within the former Vatican Palace Saint Office, where Rhatzinger had his office for years in the past. The actual Pope is furious it seems. The arrest was made by the Vatican gendarmerie, I am very surprised it got out.

    What I also understood is that peace will be back in the palace (some must have complaint quite heavily, my opinion) and the Monsignor (Cardinal) for which the partier was working was supposed to name him Bishop and now he has lost that opportunity, since it seems he did not see what his employee was doing, despite often working late with him....

    I think they went too far and a few got enough and decided to kill the potential political nomination.

    Google translation is quite good - for once:

    Quote A drug-based gay celebration. It is what the men of the Vatican Gendarmerie have discovered in a blitz in an apartment in the former Palazzo dell'Offizio. Precisely where for a quarter of a century the then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger has served as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith before being elected Pope. The tenant of the apartment, according to what they say in the Vatican, is a Monsignor who carries out the duties of secretary of an important cardinal at the head of a dicastery of the Roman Curia. The man, immediately stopped by the Gendarmerie, was first hospitalized for a short time in the Roman Pio XI clinic to detoxify the drugs, and is currently in spiritual retreat in a convent in Italy.

    .......Just as he had aroused several moods that the presbytery in question had a luxurious car with the plaque of the Holy See. This is also a privilege reserved for high prelates. Evidently, as has emerged from some reconstructions made in the Vatican, it was precisely this vehicle that allowed its owner to carry the drug without ever being stopped by the Italian police.



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    Interesting... it's not just in the UK 'Sun' (which is quite a cheap and sensational 'tabloid'), but in many other newspapers worldwide.

    They all cite this source, a report in the Italian paper Il Fatto Quotidiano:
    Maybe someone who knows Italian can look at the paper's website, and see how reliable it appears to be.
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    Are these events leading to the fullfillment of the third prophecy of Fatima? (I think it is apostasy or/and WW3)

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    Quote Posted by section9 (here)
    This seems a convenient story to break out just at this time, in light of Joseph P. Farrell's recent story about the Cardinal Pell affair masking an attempted Rothschild/BIS takeover of the Vatican Bank.

    I haven't read or heard of Farrell's comments yet but many conflicts within the Vatican are being aired out at the moment. I do not know if Cardinal Pell is guilty of sexual abuse (maybe not). He is however likely targeted by powerful entrenched neocons within the Vatican as a retaliation of Pell's "draining the swamp"... uncovering many hundreds of millions of dollars unaccounted for on the books. There have been "bureaucrats" in charge of financing for centuries. He (Pell) is turning a public light on them.

    This episode with Cardinal Francesco sounds like the dirty play is being ratcheted up. Stay tuned for more hell's fury from the Vatican.

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    This could actually be a positive thing believe or not.

    The end of the "gay mafia" in the Vatican would be a very good thing, & this could be the start of that !

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    The Church of Rome is losing credibility fast.

    I remember a wee anecdote- a British/Irish lady who attends Catholic Church here in the UK committed a terrible sin, for which she was permanently denied access to communion. She went & got married in Hawaii without telling the Padre.

    Her Irish friends told her that if this had happened in Ireland, the Church would not bat an eye-lid. They would just be pitifully grateful for her continuing attendance at Church at all!

    Attendance is dropping as the revelations continue..
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    What offences? Partying with young gay guys? As long as minors aren't being abused, it sounds like a good time is being had by all. Probably the worst offences within the Catholic Church were the result of sexual repression and arrested sexual development, manifesting as creepy creepy pedo behaviour.

    I say...let them play.
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    I HOPE YOUR KIDDING OR DRINKING ... THE POOR SUPPRESSED PRIEST ... REPRESENTATIVES OF GOD .. JUST HAVING A GAY ORGY ...NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
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    Ramus, I am not particularly orgy bent myself, but think this is a healthy development. As Spiral says, anything that reduces the hold of the Gay mafia, strengthened by layers of mutual blackmail, including gay partying--is a positive development.

    Priests are usually gay men and their gayness should be acknowledged. The extremes of their behavior is likely a result of the same kind of rebellion teens go through when their basic natures and desire for independence are stifled by their parents. (not saying that parental control is necessarily negative)

    Oh, and yes, sometimes I drink--for clarity!

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    Despite the idea that these guys should be allowed to party, to overthrow their 'repression', I think we should clarify a number of glaring contradictions to publicly held Catholic beliefs in this incident:

    1) Catholics believe in monogamous sexual relationships between two MARRIED, in love, heterosexual partners. A gay orgy is driven by lust, not love. A gay orgy is not amongst consenting, married couples. A gay orgy is not heterosexual.

    2) Look at the context of this incident: gay orgy in an apartment belonging to the department charged with tackling sexual abuse within the church. This incident took place in an apartment assigned to a department in the church to eliminate sexual abuse. What kind of message does this send that the investigators for sexual abuse conduct un-catholic gay orgies?

    3). The presence of drugs, another un-Catholic activity, and criminal in most jurisdictions, has to raise serious questions as to the characters of these participants, particularly from a Catholic viewpoint.

    I know the roman church is very insular, but this event, and its publicity, make this a perfect time for them to clean up this nonsense. It doesnt matter if the public release of this info is for ulterior motives, this info should be used to further bring to light corruption and unethical practices in this church, imho.

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    I don't see any other comments on this so I'll mention it myself.

    The report says it was the Vatican Police that nabbed them.

    Doesn't that strike you as being the most interesting thing about this story ?
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    Just a general point about chastity / celibacy, yes it's something that some people can't do, but it's hardly impossible as some would make out, nor is it a guarantee of the manifestation of perversions.

    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    Ramus, I am not particularly orgy bent myself, but think this is a healthy development. As Spiral says, anything that reduces the hold of the Gay mafia, strengthened by layers of mutual blackmail, including gay partying--is a positive development.

    Priests are usually gay men and their gayness should be acknowledged. The extremes of their behavior is likely a result of the same kind of rebellion teens go through when their basic natures and desire for independence are stifled by their parents. (not saying that parental control is necessarily negative)

    Oh, and yes, sometimes I drink--for clarity!
    I don't think they are usually gay, or even end up gay (as in prisoners who go "gay for the stay"), I've never met a gay priest (out of the 20-30 I've met over the years ), I've met a few who clearly joined up because they found sexuality difficult though.



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    I don't see any other comments on this so I'll mention it myself.

    The report says it was the Vatican Police that nabbed them.

    Doesn't that strike you as being the most interesting thing about this story ?

    It has to be the Vatican Police, it's a City State, and yes it means big things are happening under the surface, maybe the long awaited clear up is going to start !

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    Spiral, Where I come from, gay priests are (or were) the norm.

    Do I think repression alone causes pedophilia? No, but I know that sexual immaturity is part of the profile of pedophiles and that can be enhanced by a repressive atmosphere.

    So the Catholic Church may not cause it, but the atmosphere that allowed them access to children in an atmosphere where so many had so much to hide, would attract them. A more relaxed general atmosphere about normal gay and straight sex would rob them of cover.
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    Infowars Forced Gay Vatican Orgy Into The Mainstream

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTAh7t3b2P4

    Published on 6 Jul 2017
    On Monday, Leo Zagami joined Infowars live to provide intelligence straight from
    Italy on the gay, cocaine-fueled orgy at the Vatican, and now the MSM has been
    forced to cover the story as well.

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    Full interview from a couple days ago....

    Vatican Insider Leo Zagami: Police Interrupted Gay Orgy In Vatican, Prominent
    Cardinal Was Arrested


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    I just think this was the tip of the iceberg; just go to the Vatican City and see how many statues/paintings there are of naked men/boys!!!-

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    Quote I just think this was the tip of the iceberg; just go to the Vatican City
    As you know Larry,David and others have been exposing this
    for decades and this went over Bill Mahers head as he tries to
    ridicule him and is how the elites have gotten away with this
    by owning the media and not doing any serious research in
    this subject.

    David Icke with Bill Maher in the Vatican Rome ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHBDPfFh2qs

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    David Icke in Rome - the London-Rome Beltane Ritual 2011 (Full Film)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15sHCjO5lSw

    A 90-minute documentary shot in Rome by Neil Hague and produced by Jay4louise.
    David highlights the importance of Rome and London to the global conspiracy and
    their Satanic ritual connection when he visited Rome on the recent Beltane weekend
    in which the Royal Wedding in London on April 29th was followed two days later by a
    major ritual in St Peter's Square related to Pope John Paul II on the key Beltane date
    of May 1st.
    A coincidence? Not a chance.
    http://www.davidicke.com/

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    A couple of tabloids have picked it up ....

    MAIL ON LINE....

    Vatican police 'break up drug-fuelled gay orgy at home of secretary of one of Pope
    Francis's key advisers'
    Raid at flat belonging to the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith
    Occupant of flat was allegedly secretary to Cardinal Francesco Coccopalmerio
    Coccopalmerio heads Pontifical Council for Legislative texts and is a key adviser to
    the Pope

    By Julian Robinson for MailOnline

    Published: 10:38, 5 July 2017 | Updated: 23:36, 5 July 2017


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4m5VLcnyU
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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    The Australian....

    Read more....
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...3b246b23bed5e4
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    Being anti-Vatican myself, I can't help but like the exposure of this story...

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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    What offences? Partying with young gay guys? As long as minors aren't being abused, it sounds like a good time is being had by all. Probably the worst offences within the Catholic Church were the result of sexual repression and arrested sexual development, manifesting as creepy creepy pedo behaviour.

    I say...let them play.
    Let them play but close down the hypocrisy also.

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