What the Health

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Enjoy. Although I already knew most of this, it still pisses me off. It is also on Netflix if this video gets pulled.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_3iSfFxpSwU

If you want to know a short description of what this is about. It is about our food supply and how bad it is. Something I didn't know before this film is that there have been, I think he said at least 4 cases of mad cow in the US that has been suppressed recently.

I think this film is a must watch.

[Rawhide68]

All proteins are made from plants, I really didnt know that. Intresting, thanks for sharing.

[happyuk]

Yes a healthy well-balanced diet is important. But these slick highly-polished films with their scare-mongering get my back up a little.

America is a well-fed nation.

Take a look at this interview with the late Dr Magnus Pyke. The whole interview is well worth a listen. He covers a range of topics including food science and so-called alternative energies. Pyke was a well-known TV personality on British television during the 70s for anything science-related. His gestures and speech (as in "British Empah") were rather zany and eccentric but his academic credentials as one of Britain's top researchers were second to none. I like his point that much of the criticism of so-called "junk" food is made by city-dwelling urbanites, who denigrate the food of the working classes not because they are scientific but because they are snobbish.

During the second world war he was tasked with keeping a nation of 50-odd million fed and healthy given that our island was surrounded by hostile submarines.

At around 4:48 he summarises all you need to know about diet in two main points:

1. Don't eat too much nor eat too little.
2. Mix it.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OL1kT3-BPuo

[neutronstar]

Posted by happyuk (here)
America is a well-fed nation.

Well fed doesn't mean we're healthy. 20% of the GDP of the US is health care. Up from 17% like 40 years ago. We are one of the sickest if not the sickest nation in the world.

If people want to eat meat that is fine, just know what you are eating. I have seen this stuff first hand. I have worked in 2 slaughter houses, and been on factory farms and they aren't exaggerating how bad they are.

Everywhere I go, all I see are people that are over weight and grossly over weight. Most of the time when I see someone not over weight they look like they are under 25. I see people at the gym trying to lose weight, and month after month, some year after year, they never do and I know why. It's their diet and it is not just about eating less. Been there done that. It doesn't work if your not eating the right food.


We are being feed crap all to make a profit and people don't know it. Unfortunately most people will see this movie and be turned off by the fact that they recommend a vegan diet, and ignore most if not all the claims in this movie because they don't want to quit eating meat. But I post it for those that want to know the truth even though it might not be what they want to hear.

And as far as the movie being a scare tactic, people should be scared. 10 years ago I read an article in Popular Science. It was tucked away in the corner of a page. The article was about scientists say we might have dodged a bullet. 25 million people in the US it's estimated ate infected meat from mad cow disease. They don't know why they haven't seen people come down with the human equivalent of the disease. But they did say it could take up to 10 years for the disease to become apparent. Maybe we are seeing it now with an uptick of dementia and Alzheimer's.

[Akasha]

Mod's, merge with this thread?

Either way, thanks for bumping it, Neutronstar.

[happyuk]

What I meant by "well fed" is that America no longer has issues with dietary deficiencies caused by lack, scurvy, rickets, riboflavin deficiency etc. There is nothing wrong with the food or its quality and availability .

That many Americans choose to eat far too much of a narrow range of foods (thereby violating Dr Pykes' two simple guidelines I mentioned in the previous post) is a psychological/sociological issue, not a dietary one. It is no different where ever you go. In wartime Britain, for example, despite an aggressive propaganda campaign, housewives still put meat and bacon at the top of their healthy eating list, in spite of the evidence put before them, remaining reluctant to put carrot and turnip juice to the family diet.

I don't eat meat, just fish, but why shouldn't people eat a small amount of meat as part of a balanced diet - as they have done for thousands of years? Apart from being unscientific and emotive, what is meant when some particular food item is described as "crap"? When people say they do not lose weight in spite of exercising regularly and eating less (and/or following Pyke's two rules of nutrition) - are they being brutally honest with themselves? Again this all boils down to psychology not diet.

[Akasha]

Posted by happyuk (here)
.....but why shouldn't people eat a small amount of meat as part of a balanced diet.....?

Because (in the case of red or processed meat) it's been classified as a carcinogen perhaps? Anyone wanting to play Russian Roulette with their colon (or other parts of their digestive tract), have at it.

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Posted by happyuk (here)
What I meant by "well fed" is that America no longer has issues with dietary deficiencies caused by lack, scurvy, rickets, riboflavin deficiency etc. There is nothing wrong with the food or its quality and availability .

That many Americans choose to eat far too much of a narrow range of foods (thereby violating Dr Pykes' two simple guidelines I mentioned in the previous post) is a psychological/sociological issue, not a dietary one. It is no different where ever you go. In wartime Britain, for example, despite an aggressive propaganda campaign, housewives still put meat and bacon at the top of their healthy eating list, in spite of the evidence put before them, remaining reluctant to put carrot and turnip juice to the family diet.

I don't eat meat, just fish, but why shouldn't people eat a small amount of meat as part of a balanced diet - as they have done for thousands of years? Apart from being unscientific and emotive, what is meant when some particular food item is described as "crap"? When people say they do not lose weight in spite of exercising regularly and eating less (and/or following Pyke's two rules of nutrition) - are they being brutally honest with themselves? Again this all boils down to psychology not diet.

You obviously didn't watch the video if you think there is nothing wrong with our food. The meat people ate 50 years ago or longer was not the meat we have today. Most if not all processed foods are void of any vitamins or minerals that our bodies need to function properly. That's what I mean by crap food.

[Justplain]

”Forget popping pills: Physicians have begun recommending vegetables and fruits to their patients. From the American Cancer Society to the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, medical groups and doctors alike are now touting plant-based diets as the pathway towards improved overall health, reported OrganicAuthority.com. And quite frankly, it’s about time.

”The fact is that embracing a diet with a heavy emphasis on fruit and vegetable consumption has been linked to numerous health benefits. One of these is a healthier heart. The researchers behind a recent study published in the Journal of the American College of Cardiology found that plant-based diets greatly reduced the risk of developing atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease, as well as halted the progression of coronary heart disease. Additionally, the researchers noted that plant-based proteins were far more “heart-healthy” than animal proteins.

”Speaking of protein, the long-held belief that animal protein is better than those found in plants may not hold water any longer. Researchers from the University of Massachusetts Lowell stated in their study that it was protein quantity that mattered, not the source. The dietary habits of over 3000 adults were compared with their lean muscle mass, bone mineral density, and quadriceps strength. Following their analysis, the researchers concluded that so long as the protein came from a clean source, then an increased intake of this vital nutrient would lead to healthier and stronger muscles. “As long as a person is exceeding the recommended daily allowance for protein, no matter the source in their diet, they can improve their muscle health,” commented lead study author Kelsey Mangano.

”And what about the positive impact vegetarian diets have on weight loss? Yet another study that was published earlier this year concluded that vegetarian diets were far more effective in reducing body weight in comparison to diets that focused on restricting caloric intake. Two groups of participants who were randomly assigned these diets were scrutinized over the course of six months, and by the end the group on the vegetarian diet lost twice as much weight as those on the caloric-restriction diet. To be precise, the members of the vegetarian diet group lost well over 13 pounds. The researchers added that the vegetarian diet group experienced a significant boost to their metabolism.”

http://naturalnews.com/2017-07-06-du...f-doctors.html

”Liver cancer deaths are skyrocketing as food becomes increasingly TOXIC due to pesticides and herbicides
Monday, June 19, 2017 by: Tracey Watson

"(Natural News) A new report by the American Cancer Society has made the alarming revelation that rates of liver cancer deaths have doubled in this country since the mid-1980s. The report, which appears in the journal CA: A Cancer Journal for Clinicians, offers several possible reasons for this startling increase, including higher rates of hepatitis C infection, an increase in obesity rates, higher alcohol consumption, and a lack of access to healthcare in some demographics. What the report does not discuss, however, is the proven link between pesticides and liver cancer.

"It is important to recognize not just some, but all of the risk factors for liver disease, because it kills more than 29,000 people each year. Liver disease is recognized as the fifth leading cause of cancer death in men, and the eighth in women in the United States. Looked at globally, however, liver cancer is second only to lung cancer in terms of total cancer deaths.

"A recent meta-analysis of 16 different studies, which included over 480,000 participants from Asia, the U.S. and Europe, examined the link between pesticide exposure and the development of one of the most common forms of liver cancer, hepatocellular carcinoma. The study determined that pesticide exposure was linked to a 71 percent increased risk of liver cancer....

"Of course, organic foods offer far more than just protection from liver cancer. In fact, pesticide use has been linked to the development of at least nine chronic diseases:

"1.Alzheimer’s Disease: Studies have found that people exposed to pesticides are at increased risk of developing Alzheimer’s disease and dementia, and are also prone to motor skills problems, behavioral issues and impaired cognition.
2. Other types of cancer: In addition to liver cancer, pesticide use has also been linked to the development of bone, brain, pancreatic, bladder and prostate cancers, as well as to leukemia.
3. Birth defects: As the use of agricultural pesticides increases, so do the rates of birth defects, particularly in rural farming communities.
4. Endocrine disruption: Just like plastics and household cleaners, pesticides disrupt hormonal balance, causing disease, reproductive problems and developmental issues.
5. Fertility issues: Exposure to pesticides has been shown to affect the fertility of both men and women. In one study, men who were found to have three types of pesticides in their urine were 10 times more likely to have poor quality sperm.
6. Asthma: Asthma rates are on the increase around the country, and studies have found a clear link between this condition and pesticide exposure. An Agricultural Health Study involving over 25,000 farm women confirmed a link between seven insecticides and atopic asthma.
7. Diabetes: Exposure to organophosphate pesticides spurs obesity and can lead to diabetes.
8. Parkinson’s Disease: The link between Parkinson’s and pesticide use is clearly defined, with one study finding that frequent use of household pesticides boosts the chances of developing this illness by 45 percent. Organophosphate use is even more dangerous, and increases Parkinson’s risk by a whopping 71 percent.
9. Neurodevelopmental disorders: Since children’s brains and organs are still developing they are particularly susceptible to the effects of pesticides. Children who live in areas where aerial spraying for mosquitoes is routine are 25 percent more likely to develop neurodevelopmental disorders like autism."

http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-06-1...erbicides.html

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'What The Health' Debunked by Real Doctor

@ 5:20(ish) - Even when one is really overdoing the calories, they found that 90-97% of the fat stored was from fat. Only 3% was derived from carbs. Or to put it another way, if someone is 100 pounds over weight, probably only three-ten of those pounds are from carbs.

@ 6:10(ish) - One study, volunteers stayed in the hospital for 4 day. They carb loaded them. They showed how even with 'tons of carbs' a very, very small percentage of the carbs gets turned into fat.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z0ufvjwyUks

Published on Jul 9, 2017

ZDoggMD exposes everything wrong with vegan documentary 'What the Health.' He will save you 1.5 hours of your life by not watching the Netflix documentary and also save you an extra 15 years of healthy life by convincing you to not change your diet.

For links to studies in this video click here.

[Justplain]

Have to add this about processed foods:

"Here are 9 ways that processed foods are bad for your health.

1. Processed Foods Are Usually High in Sugar and High Fructose Corn Syrup

Processed foods are usually loaded with added sugar… or its evil twin, High Fructose Corn Syrup.

It is well known that sugar, when consumed in excess, is seriously harmful.

As we all know, sugar is “empty” calories – it has no essential nutrients, but a large amount of energy.

But empty calories are really just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the harmful effects of sugar…

Many studies show that sugar can have devastating effects on metabolism that go way beyond its calorie content (1).

It can lead to insulin resistance, high triglycerides, increased levels of the harmful cholesterol and increased fat accumulation in the liver and abdominal cavity (2, 3).

Not surprisingly, sugar consumption is strongly associated with some of the world’s leading killers… including heart disease, diabetes, obesity and cancer (4, 5, 6, 7, 8).

Most people aren’t putting massive amounts of sugar in their coffee or on top of their cereal, they’re getting it from processed foods and sugar-sweetened beverages.

Bottom Line: Processed foods and beverages are the biggest sources of added sugar (and HFCS) in the diet. Sugar is very unhealthy and can have serious adverse effects on metabolism when consumed in excess.


2. Processed Foods Are “Hyper Rewarding” and Lead to Overconsumption

We all want to eat good food. That’s just human nature.

Evolution provided us with taste buds that are supposed to help us navigate the natural food environment.

Our appetite gravitates towards foods that are sweet, salty and fatty, because we know such foods contain energy and nutrients that we need for survival.

Obviously, if a food manufacturer wants to succeed and get people to buy their product, it has to taste good.

But today, the competition is fierce. There are many different food manufacturers, all competing with each other.

For this reason, massive resources are spent on making foods as desirable as possible.

Many processed foods have been engineered to be so incredibly “rewarding” to the brain, that they overpower anything we might have come across in nature.

We have complicated mechanisms in our bodies and brains that are supposed to regulate energy balance (how much we eat and how much we burn) – which, until very recently in evolutionary history, worked to keep us at a healthy weight.

There is quite a lot of evidence that the reward value of foods can bypass the innate defense mechanism and make us start eating much more than we need, so much that it starts to compromise our health (9, 10).

This is also known as the “food reward hypothesis of obesity.”

The truth is, processed foods are so incredibly rewarding to our brains that they affect our thoughts and behavior, making us eat more and more until eventually we become sick.

Good food is good, but foods that are engineered to be hyper rewarding, effectively short circuiting our innate brakes against overconsumption, are NOT good.

Bottom Line: Food manufacturers spend massive amounts of resources on making their foods as “rewarding” as possible to the brain, which leads to overconsumption.


3. Processed Foods Contain All Sorts of Artificial Ingredients

If you look at the ingredients label for a processed, packaged food, chances are that you won’t have a clue what some of the ingredients are.

That’s because many of the ingredients in there aren’t actual food… they are artificial chemicals that are added for various purposes.

This is an example of a processed food, an Atkins Advantage bar, which is actually marketed as a low-carb friendly health food.

I don’t know what this is, but it most certainly isn’t food.

Highly processed foods often contain:

Preservatives: Chemicals that prevent the food from rotting.
Colorants: Chemicals that are used to give the food a specific color.
Flavor: Chemicals that give the food a particular flavor.
Texturants: Chemicals that give a particular texture.
Keep in mind that processed foods can contain dozens of additional chemicals that aren’t even listed on the label.

For example, “artificial flavor” is a proprietary blend. Manufacturers don’t have to disclose exactly what it means and it is usually a combination of chemicals.

For this reason, if you see “artificial flavor” on an ingredients list, it could mean that there are 10 or more additional chemicals that are blended in to give a specific flavor.

Of course, most of these chemicals have allegedly been tested for safety. But given that the regulatory authorities still think that sugar and vegetable oils are safe, I personally take their “stamp of approval” with a grain of salt.

Bottom Line: Most highly processed foods are loaded with artificial chemicals, including flavorants, texturants, colorants and preservatives.


4. Many People Can Literally Become Addicted to Processed Junk Foods

The “hyper rewarding” nature of processed foods can have serious consequences for some people.

Some people can literally become addicted to this stuff and completely lose control over their consumption.

Although food addiction is something that most people don’t know about, I am personally convinced that it is a huge problem in society today.

It is the main reason why some people just can’t stop eating these foods, no matter how hard they try.

They’ve had their brain biochemistry hijacked by the intense dopamine release that occurs in the brain when they eat these foods (11).

This is actually supported by many studies. Sugar and highly rewarding junk foods activate the same areas in the brain as drugs of abuse like cocaine (12).

Bottom Line: For many people, junk foods can hijack the biochemistry of the brain, leading to downright addiction and cause them to lose control over their consumption.


5. Processed Foods Are Often High in Refined Carbohydrates

There is a lot of controversy regarding carbohydrates in the diet.

Some people think that the majority of our energy intake should be from carbs, while others think they should be avoided like the plague.

But one thing that almost everyone agrees on, is that carbohydrates from whole foods are much better than refined carbohydrates.

Processed foods are often high in carbs, but it is usually the refined variety.

One of the main problems is that refined, “simple” carbohydrates are quickly broken down in the digestive tract, leading to rapid spikes in blood sugar and insulin levels.

This can lead to carb cravings a few hours later when blood sugar levels go down again. This phenomenon is also called the “blood sugar roller coaster” – which many people who have been on a high-carb diet can relate to.

Not surprisingly, eating a lot of refined carbohydrates is associated with negative health effects and many chronic diseases (13, 14, 15).

Do NOT be fooled by labels like “whole grains” that are often plastered on processed food packages, including breakfast cereals.

These are usually whole grains that have been pulverized into very fine flour and are just as harmful as their refined counterparts.

If you’re going to eat carbs, get them from whole, single ingredient foods, not processed junk foods.

Bottom Line: The carbohydrates you find in processed foods are usually refined, “simple” carbohydrates. These lead to rapid spikes in blood sugar and insulin levels and cause negative health effects.


6. Most Processed Foods Are Low in Nutrients

Processed foods are extremely low in essential nutrients compared to whole, unprocessed foods.

In some cases, synthetic vitamins and minerals are added to the foods to compensate for what was lost during processing.

However, synthetic nutrients are NOT a good replacement for the nutrients found in whole foods.

Also, let’s not forget that real foods contain much more than just the standard vitamins and minerals that we’re all familiar with.

Real foods… like plants and animals, contain thousands of other trace nutrients that science is just beginning to grasp.

Maybe one day we will invent a chemical blend that can replace all these nutrients, but until that happens… the only way to get them in your diet is to eat whole, unprocessed foods.

The more you eat of processed foods, the less you will get of vitamins, minerals, antioxidants and various trace nutrients.

Bottom Line: There are many nutrients found in whole foods that are not found in processed foods. The more processed foods you eat, the less you will get of these nutrients.


7. Processed Foods Tend to be Low in Fiber

Fiber, especially soluble, fermentable fiber, has various benefits.

One of the main ones is that it functions as a prebiotic, feeding the friendly bacteria in the intestine (16, 17).

There is also evidence that fiber can slow down the absorption of carbohydrates and help us feel more satisfied with fewer calories (18, 19).

Soluble fiber can also help treat many cases of constipation, which is a very common problem today (20).

The fiber that is found naturally in foods is often lost during processing, or intentionally removed. Therefore, most processed foods are very low in fiber.

Bottom Line: Soluble, fermentable fiber has various important health benefits, but most processed foods are very low in fiber because it is lost or intentionally removed during processing.


8. It Requires Less Energy and Time to Digest Processed Foods

Food manufacturers want their processed food products to have a long shelf life.

They also want each batch of the product to have a similar consistency and they want their foods to be easily consumed.

Given the way foods are processed, they are often very easy to chew and swallow. Sometimes, it’s almost as if they melt in your mouth.

Most of the fiber has been taken out and the ingredients are refined, isolated nutrients that don’t resemble the whole foods they came from.

One consequence of this is that it takes less energy to eat and digest processed foods.

We can eat more of them in a shorter amount of time (more calories in) and we also burn less energy (fewer calories out) digesting them than we would if they were unprocessed, whole foods.

One study in 17 healthy men and women compared the difference in energy expenditure after consuming a processed vs a whole foods-based meal (21).

They ate a sandwich, either with multi-grain bread and cheddar cheese (whole foods) or with white bread and processed cheese (processed foods).

It turned out that they burned twice as many calories digesting the unprocessed meal.

The Thermic Effect of Food (TEF) is a measure of how much different foods stimulate energy expenditure after eating. It totals about 10% of total energy expenditure (metabolic rate) in the average person.

According to this study, people who eat processed food will cut their TEF in half, effectively reducing the amount of calories they burn throughout the day.

Bottom Line: We only burn half as many calories digesting and metabolizing processed foods compared to whole foods.


9. Processed Foods Are Often High in Trans Fats or Processed Vegetable Oils

Processed foods are often high in unhealthy fats.

They usually contain cheap fats, refined seed- and vegetable oils (like soybean oil) that are often hydrogenated… which turns them into trans fats.

Vegetable oils are extremely unhealthy and most people are eating way too much of them already.

These fats contain excessive amounts of Omega-6 fatty acids, which can drive oxidation and inflammation in the body (22, 23).

Several studies show that when people eat more of these oils, they have a significantly increased risk of heart disease, which is the most common cause of death in Western countries today (24, 25, 26).

If the fats are hydrogenated, that makes them even worse. Hydrogenated (trans) fats are among the nastiest, unhealthiest substances you can put into your body (27).

The best way to avoid seed oils and trans fats is to avoid processed foods. Eat real fats like coconut oil and olive oil instead.

Just Eat Real Food!

When we replace real foods like fish, meat, fruit and vegetables with crappy, processed junk foods, we get fat and sick.

Real food is the key to good health, processed food is not. Period.


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