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    Default Re: Richard Dolan talks to Bill Ryan in depth: Corey Goode, Andy Basiago, Bill Tompkins, MUFON, and more

    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    Meanwhile back with NASA an interesting/amusing article ......



    US Republican asks Nasa if civilisation on Mars existed

    US Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, a California Republican, asked
    the scientist leading Nasa's Mars Rover programme if an ancient
    civilisation existed on Mars.
    4h ago From the section US & Canada
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-u...n-mars-existed


    Published on 18 Jul 2017

    Full story on Space.com: https://www.space.com/37534-mars-civi...
    US congressman Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA 48th District) asked a select NASA
    panel about the possibility of civilizations on Mars "thousands of years ago."
    Footage from the Space Subcommittee Hearing - Planetary Flagship Missions:
    Mars Rover 2020 and Europa Clipper.
    Thanks, Cidersomerset.
    Fixed link to main article from Space.com: No, Congressman, There's No Evidence of an Ancient Mars Civilization

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    Default Re: Richard Dolan talks to Bill Ryan in depth: Corey Goode, Andy Basiago, Bill Tompkins, MUFON, and more

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    Couldn’t Ryan and Liszt be Deep State operatives who have been activated to discredit Goode?
    If Michael Salla really thinks this, he discredits only himself.

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    Default Re: Richard Dolan talks to Bill Ryan in depth: Corey Goode, Andy Basiago, Bill Tompkins, MUFON, and more

    Bill, time to get a trench coat to go with the fedora! The more drama they create with this the more ka ka ka -Ching!

    There is no way, in my mind, that Salla has been anything but willfully deceptive from the get go. The law has a narrow angle focus on rules of evidence and most lawyers understand that VERY well, even if they don't respect it.

    It used to amaze me, listening to Art Bell, how very honest most of the guests sounded. But half of them were quite clearly lying through their teeth. Some people are just very very skilled at lying.

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    Default Re: Richard Dolan talks to Bill Ryan in depth: Corey Goode, Andy Basiago, Bill Tompkins, MUFON, and more

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    Quote Posted by Shadowself (here)
    Couldn’t Ryan and Liszt be Deep State operatives who have been activated to discredit Goode?
    If Michael Salla really thinks this, he discredits only himself.
    If he made that statement, my money would be betting on this - That he was (as he told you) 'all in' with Corey meaning... he is fully invested in Corey. And he has discovered that to be invested in Corey requires one to remain invested in Corey. And the only way to do so (without Corey then calling you an illumianti cabal betrayor) is for you to call those Corey deems as "enemies" one of several labels that Corey dreams up as best fit for you - in this case... "newly activated (or reactivated) deep state operatives."

    See... for the huge plethora of vulnerables, all they have to do is show any tiny connection between any one person and any other person that then may be implied as connected to or connected to "deep state" or "agency" or "shadow government" or "illuminati" or "reptilians/mantids" or on and on...

    They then take those vague, innocent connections and twist them into "proof!!!!" and the vulnerable lap it up.

    And even when vague connections are not available - they make them up. And because it is Corey Goode, the vulnerable believe the outright lies.

    Sad situation yet I am very proud of what you, Bill and Richard and Daniel and so many others are doing to hold Corey's feet to the fire and to do so steadily, groundedly, with emotions well under control. Already we have seen dozens of would be victims of Corey Goode coming into doubt which provides them enough space to start to think more for themselves and to start to investigate more and more not just the fraud Corey Goode has proven (and is ever more proving) to be, but also, how each of us have to work on our own vulnerabilities such that we don't fall prey to these unconscionable predators.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Default Re: Richard Dolan talks to Bill Ryan in depth: Corey Goode, Andy Basiago, Bill Tompkins, MUFON, and more

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Shadowself (here)
    Couldn’t Ryan and Liszt be Deep State operatives who have been activated to discredit Goode?
    If Michael Salla really thinks this, he discredits only himself.
    Michael Salla has painted himself into a corner here. Putting all his money on someone without properly vetting him then accusing you Bill and Daniel who have done everything notable so far to show that this story is just that. What's more it's a marketing scheme which is quite evident.

    His so called proof is calling the references on Linkedin regarding his IT work?

    Has anyone applied for a job around here? When you make a reference available they are always without a doubt a reference that is going to verify and give a good recommendation. If you put a reference that would not give you a glowing review...then you're just plain stupid!

    But here Salla has put all his eggs in one Blue Avain basket. He has no choice now but to back the subject of some of his recent books he's written. After all is said and done he cannot do anything else.

    Now as a manager and someone who used to hire people for specific positions in the company I worked for I rarely called the references. I called the places of employment listed starting with the ones that seemed short term to see how they preformed at their listed position.

    Many people are under the impression that a previous employer cannot give you a bad reference. That is not entirely true. As long as they stick to the truth and report the reason the person is no longer employed ie fired, lay off, poor performance etc.

    Now I looked at his so called resume and it has red flags all over the place. Whats more Salla did this so called article reviewing his prior employment. I have to tell you even Salla has taken to embellishment!

    ~

    First reg flag for me as an employer hiring someone with that particular resume is this....allow me to show you:

    Prior Employment record on Linkedin...

    Capital One - Senior Citrix/VMware Production Support Specialist
    Company NameApex Systems
    Dates Employed Oct 2012 – Dec 2012 Employment Duration 3 mos

    Next position:

    Hilton Worldwide - Citrix
    Company Name Robert Half Technology
    Dates Employed Apr 2013 – Jun 2013 Employment Duration 3 mos

    Red flag and the first thing an employer will question...4 months unemployed. What happened would be my first question to a potential hire.

    But... and I quote Salla in his very dubious article on one of Corey's references:

    Quote Other professional recommendations include Vic Blazier who is a Senior Consultant for Federal at VMware, and worked with Goode in May 2013 when Goode was consulting for a five month period at Hilton Worldwide. Blazier has the following to say about Goode as found on Goode’s LinkedIn page
    Well that's not quite true now is it? Because Corey's linkedin says:

    Dates Employed Oct 2012 – Dec 2012 - Employment Duration 3 mos

    He (Corey) was not as Salla reported there for 5 months but 3 months as stated on his Linkedin...

    ~

    But hold the presses!

    By his own words in a post done in 2013 he says and I quote:

    Quote I still have jobs sabotaged and then jobs out of the blue offered at government agencies, government and military contractors etc... Contract Prematurely Ended on May/31st after receiving 4 emails from agencies [...]

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post684637
    So Corey stated he worked there on his resume from April 2013 - June 2013. But the post said his Contract Prematurely Ended on May 31st ...

    That would be 2 months...not 5 as Salla reports or 3 as Cory's Linkedin resume reports.

    I could add much more about this so called review Salla did and that resume but you get the gist eh?

    Here it is in case you've not seen it yet: http://exopolitics.org/hoax-investig...grams-exposed/



    As I said ... Salla is painting himself into a corner with a confirmed liar. Too bad for him!
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    Default Re: Richard Dolan talks to Bill Ryan in depth: Corey Goode, Andy Basiago, Bill Tompkins, MUFON, and more

    I do not recall Michael Salla ever saying he does NOT believe any case he has ever come across! It seems to me that if someone said it, M. Salla is there to buy it and/or swallow it. Anyone who does not agree with him, is Govt disinfo! (or perhaps from the University that gave him the boot that I have not heard him talk about!).

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    Default Re: Richard Dolan talks to Bill Ryan in depth: Corey Goode, Andy Basiago, Bill Tompkins, MUFON, and more

    Quote Posted by Shadowself (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Shadowself (here)
    Couldn’t Ryan and Liszt be Deep State operatives who have been activated to discredit Goode?
    If Michael Salla really thinks this, he discredits only himself.
    Michael Salla has painted himself into a corner here. Putting all his money on someone without properly vetting him then accusing you Bill and Daniel who have done everything notable so far to show that this story is just that. What's more it's a marketing scheme which is quite evident.

    His so called proof is calling the references on Linkedin regarding his IT work?

    Has anyone applied for a job around here? When you make a reference available they are always without a doubt a reference that is going to verify and give a good recommendation. If you put a reference that would not give you a glowing review...then you're just plain stupid!

    But here Salla has put all his eggs in one Blue Avain basket. He has no choice now but to back the subject of some of his recent books he's written. After all is said and done he cannot do anything else.

    Now as a manager and someone who used to hire people for specific positions in the company I worked for I rarely called the references. I called the places of employment listed starting with the ones that seemed short term to see how they preformed at their listed position.

    Many people are under the impression that a previous employer cannot give you a bad reference. That is not entirely true. As long as they stick to the truth and report the reason the person is no longer employed ie fired, lay off, poor performance etc.

    Now I looked at his so called resume and it has red flags all over the place. Whats more Salla did this so called article reviewing his prior employment. I have to tell you even Salla has taken to embellishment!

    ~

    First reg flag for me as an employer hiring someone with that particular resume is this....allow me to show you:

    Prior Employment record on Linkedin...

    Capital One - Senior Citrix/VMware Production Support Specialist
    Company NameApex Systems
    Dates Employed Oct 2012 – Dec 2012 Employment Duration 3 mos

    Next position:

    Hilton Worldwide - Citrix
    Company Name Robert Half Technology
    Dates Employed Apr 2013 – Jun 2013 Employment Duration 3 mos

    Red flag and the first thing an employer will question...4 months unemployed. What happened would be my first question to a potential hire.

    But... and I quote Salla in his very dubious article on one of Corey's references:

    Quote Other professional recommendations include Vic Blazier who is a Senior Consultant for Federal at VMware, and worked with Goode in May 2013 when Goode was consulting for a five month period at Hilton Worldwide. Blazier has the following to say about Goode as found on Goode’s LinkedIn page
    Well that's not quite true now is it? Because Corey's linkedin says:

    Dates Employed Oct 2012 – Dec 2012 - Employment Duration 3 mos

    He (Corey) was not as Salla reported there for 5 months but 3 months as stated on his Linkedin...

    ~

    But hold the presses!

    By his own words in a post done in 2013 he says and I quote:

    Quote I still have jobs sabotaged and then jobs out of the blue offered at government agencies, government and military contractors etc... Contract Prematurely Ended on May/31st after receiving 4 emails from agencies [...]

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post684637
    So Corey stated he worked there on his resume from April 2013 - June 2013. But the post said his Contract Prematurely Ended on May 31st ...

    That would be 2 months...not 5 as Salla reports or 3 as Cory's Linkedin resume reports.

    I could add much more about this so called review Salla did and that resume but you get the gist eh?

    Here it is in case you've not seen it yet: http://exopolitics.org/hoax-investig...grams-exposed/



    As I said ... Salla is painting himself into a corner with a confirmed liar. Too bad for him!
    The problems is the Young crowd who believes Corey, and do not have the work experience to see through by looking at curriculums, detect liars, and more. But Salla should have.

    The holes you see in his cv are automatically questioned by any employer, and often filled in by employees wanting a job, so the cv has to be studied, the interview has to be thorough, unless you are looking for a temporary job with no secutiry involved. Then you take those who can do the job as fast as possible with as little pay as possible.

    Very obvious that Corey did not have nor get near 6 digits salaries. For those jobs, cv and first job interviews drill in whatever you did, second interview is with senior interviewers and last with subject matter experts and your potential manager, better be solid in what you did.

    For higher 6 digits, inteviews goes on much further, background research is thorough, and these are not for 3 months job stretch. And there is no more needs to create a blue avian, you are well enough to job keep working.

    Most of us at Avalon saw trhough quite easily if we were looking at it a bit more carefully.

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    Default Re: Richard Dolan talks to Bill Ryan in depth: Corey Goode, Andy Basiago, Bill Tompkins, MUFON, and more

    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    Quote Posted by 9ofClubs (here)
    Bill, great interview.

    I wish you would have asked him more about specifics as to why he didnt like the tompkins book. He has said many tiny now that he got a chance to publish it but wanted nothing to do with it. I would be interested in why exactly he felt that way, not that I disagree with the assessment.

    Im also eagerly awaiting his next radio broadcast which is taking forever to come out.
    It was my understanding that Dolan's rejection was based on the actual format of the content, not the content itself. Dolan had been approached to assume the role of publisher, not editor, two very different kinds of work. The manuscript 'format' was too close to the original: repeated interviews in which Tomkins' recall was a 'stream of consciousness'. Okay for a rough draft, but unreadable for more than a few pages at a time without getting lost. It was a repetitious hodge podge of poorly organized, disconnected fragments that were so very difficult to follow that the work required to give it a coherent flow was just not worth the effort. The final version, the one that Salla printed, is a huge rework, but is still very hard to follow.

    B.
    Dolan seemed to emphasized as the clincher that Thompkins appeared to exhibit the emotional maturity of an 11 year old. If I recall correctly, that was the primary reason Dolan wouldn't have anything to do with it even if it were to become a big hit.

    I recall the only book I read by Salla was his book that made the case that JFK was killed because he (JFK) was about to expose the UFO coverup. I recall in reading this book Salla seemed to have written the book in chunks and at different times where he was unable to recall what he had already written. I say this because he would build up a case for material that he had already built up and covered previousely while then proceeding to throw something new into his overall case building. He did this consistently throughout the book and after reading the book I thought about it. I had two conclusions. One being that he needed to do this just so the book would have enough words and pages he could actually call it (and sell it) as a book. But the other thought I had was, I wonder if Salla thinks the reader needs to be told the same things over and over because they just don't remember well enough otherwise?

    I must add that because of my interest in the subject, I found Salla's case quite interesting and even plausible as long as one considers that this may be just one of dozens of reasons "they" wanted to get rid of Kennedy and do it asap.

    But one very important aspect of Salla's "investigation" (if what Salla proposed would actually be true), is his interpretation of the documents he cited that the men who decided that Kennedy had to be eliminated (supposedly a majority of seven of the then MJ-12 group), actually believed they were given the legal mandate to make such a call and have it executed. That possibility made the whole Salla hypothesis one of the most intriguing things I ever read with regards to the Kennedy assassination and thus I was glad I read the book despite its strange clumsiness.
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    Default Re: Richard Dolan talks to Bill Ryan in depth: Corey Goode, Andy Basiago, Bill Tompkins, MUFON, and more

    If one would take an objective look at the Alternative/UFO arena right now, it is very clear that we aren't even in the same zipcode of real disclosure. Some real grounded researchers ( Farrell for example) have laid the ground work for the regular Joe to look at this UFO/Alt version of history with a fresh set of eyes that will entice the reader to ask valid questions and to think critically about the "official" version of these issues. But now Goode Enterprise Solutions is promoting the exact opposite: Accept a ridiculously outlandish story without any shred of evidence with an extra emphasis to his audience to put critical thinking aside and just accept him as a time traveler from Mars who will make all their dreams of disclosure and abundance come true.
    The result: the Alternative/UFO scene right now is in complete disarray with its target audience distracted with this pointless debate.
    The proof: take a look at project Avalon now for example and see how many threads and posts wasted on this distraction...
    It's beyond obvious now that Goode Enterprise Solutions was created to disrupt this Alternative arena and to steer it away from real grounded research which in itself wasn't even getting us close to real disclosure to begin with!!! We were simply asking the right questions and trying to comb through all the crap that's been funneled our way...
    Now wether Goode Enterprise Solutions and its sponsors(Gaia TV) was created with a direct or an indirect influence of the usual Alphabet agencies is irrelevant because its mission have been accomplished and they literally have tainted the research field with more crap that will discourage newcomers and old timers alike in their quest to understand what's really going on...
    We have been had for literally thousands of years and their methods of control keeps getting more and more sophisticated and advanced beyond our wildest imagination... do you really think we will get real disclosure from Goode or even Dolan or anyone else in this muddy field??? With or without disclosure the best we can do at our personal level is to remove distractions from our lives and to cleanse our minds from programming in order make conscious decisions on where we "spend" our attention because it's the most valuable and real currency that we have... everything else is just another distraction..

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    Default Re: Richard Dolan talks to Bill Ryan in depth: Corey Goode, Andy Basiago, Bill Tompkins, MUFON, and more

    I always wondered where the “get three references, and/or witnesses, saying the same thing and it is credible” came from

    @0:50 in the video shown in the following link:

    . . . apparently the Bible says that “in the mouth of two or three witnesses you can establish whether a thing is true or not . . . multiple times it uses that reference”

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post747313

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    Default Re: Richard Dolan talks to Bill Ryan in depth: Corey Goode, Andy Basiago, Bill Tompkins, MUFON, and more

    Flash,

    Yes agreed to all you said and Salla should be ashamed of himself accusing Bill and Daniel of being Deep State operatives that are "activated"..

    He should never have attempted to bring out that pathetic resume to back Corey's claims.

    There are things on that resume that are astoundingly bad! 2 four month gaps with no explanation in the heading. One self employed listing with not one...NOT ONE iota of what he did as a company! It's just blank with a date and his Name on the company! His education in IT is totally missing! Where did he get his education in IT? There is a certificate from 2009 - 2010 and that is it! Prior to that his education was a 3 year "2.9" study in religion. So where did he get his education in IT? It's pathetic for a resume and aside from his current position as a "whistleblower" and now entertainment guru...he's lacking everywhere on that thing!

    But this is what Salla provides and admonishes Bill and Daniel for? As I said there is more on that resume that leaves doubt and outright lies and embellishment than you can shake a stick at!

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    Default Re: Richard Dolan talks to Bill Ryan in depth: Corey Goode, Andy Basiago, Bill Tompkins, MUFON, and more

    I am not American and may not understand what is a 3 years study "2.9" in religion. Does that means you have been undergraduate in a universty for 2.9 years, or you have been 2.9 years at Jonestown or in Scientology? does it mean anything?

    However, I understand it as studying cults and religious behavior/guruism.... hum..... interesting

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    Flash,

    Yes agreed to all you said and Salla should be ashamed of himself accusing Bill and Daniel of being Deep State operatives that are "activated"..

    He should never have attempted to bring out that pathetic resume to back Corey's claims.

    There are things on that resume that are astoundingly bad! 2 four month gaps with no explanation in the heading. One self employed listing with not one...NOT ONE iota of what he did as a company! It's just blank with a date and his Name on the company! His education in IT is totally missing! Where did he get his education in IT? There is a certificate from 2009 - 2010 and that is it! Prior to that his education was a 3 year "2.9" study in religion. So where did he get his education in IT? It's pathetic for a resume and aside from his current position as a "whistleblower" and now entertainment guru...he's lacking everywhere on that thing!

    But this is what Salla provides and admonishes Bill and Daniel for? As I said there is more on that resume that leaves doubt and outright lies and embellishment than you can shake a stick at!

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    Default Re: Richard Dolan talks to Bill Ryan in depth: Corey Goode, Andy Basiago, Bill Tompkins, MUFON, and more

    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    I am not American and may not understand what is a 3 years study "2.9" in religion. Does that means you have been undergraduate in a universty for 2.9 years, or you have been 2.9 years at Jonestown or in Scientology? does it mean anything?

    However, I understand it as studying cults and religious behavior/guruism.... hum..... interesting
    Well it leaves one guessing eh?

    Actually it says:

    Southern Nazarene University

    Degree Name Religion and Psychology Field Of Study Pre-Ministry Religion and Psychology Grade 2.9
    Dates attended or expected graduation 1990 – 1993

    2.9 GPA is equivalent to 84% on percentile scale, and is considered as 'B' grade.
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    Default Re: Richard Dolan talks to Bill Ryan in depth: Corey Goode, Andy Basiago, Bill Tompkins, MUFON, and more

    Thanks, same kind of rating than in Canada, however, universities do not offer Pre-Ministry Religion mixed with psychology lol..... is that using psychology to have a better handle on people religious beliefs??? being sarcastic here in parts, but having studied religion and psychology makes one a bit more agile in influencing and manipulating, I would believe. A far stretch from computers.

    Thanks for the info.

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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    I am not American and may not understand what is a 3 years study "2.9" in religion. Does that means you have been undergraduate in a universty for 2.9 years, or you have been 2.9 years at Jonestown or in Scientology? does it mean anything?

    However, I understand it as studying cults and religious behavior/guruism.... hum..... interesting
    Well it leaves one guessing eh?

    Actually it says:

    Southern Nazarene University

    Degree Name Religion and Psychology Field Of Study Pre-Ministry Religion and Psychology Grade 2.9
    Dates attended or expected graduation 1990 – 1993

    2.9 GPA is equivalent to 84% on percentile scale, and is considered as 'B' grade.

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    Quote Posted by Jad (here)
    If one would take an objective look at the Alternative/UFO arena right now, it is very clear that we aren't even in the same zipcode of real disclosure. Some real grounded researchers ( Farrell for example) have laid the ground work for the regular Joe to look at this UFO/Alt version of history with a fresh set of eyes that will entice the reader to ask valid questions and to think critically about the "official" version of these issues. But now Goode Enterprise Solutions is promoting the exact opposite: Accept a ridiculously outlandish story without any shred of evidence with an extra emphasis to his audience to put critical thinking aside and just accept him as a time traveler from Mars who will make all their dreams of disclosure and abundance come true.
    The result: the Alternative/UFO scene right now is in complete disarray with its target audience distracted with this pointless debate.
    The proof: take a look at project Avalon now for example and see how many threads and posts wasted on this distraction...
    It's beyond obvious now that Goode Enterprise Solutions was created to disrupt this Alternative arena and to steer it away from real grounded research which in itself wasn't even getting us close to real disclosure to begin with!!! We were simply asking the right questions and trying to comb through all the crap that's been funneled our way...
    Now wether Goode Enterprise Solutions and its sponsors(Gaia TV) was created with a direct or an indirect influence of the usual Alphabet agencies is irrelevant because its mission have been accomplished and they literally have tainted the research field with more crap that will discourage newcomers and old timers alike in their quest to understand what's really going on...
    We have been had for literally thousands of years and their methods of control keeps getting more and more sophisticated and advanced beyond our wildest imagination... do you really think we will get real disclosure from Goode or even Dolan or anyone else in this muddy field??? With or without disclosure the best we can do at our personal level is to remove distractions from our lives and to cleanse our minds from programming in order make conscious decisions on where we "spend" our attention because it's the most valuable and real currency that we have... everything else is just another distraction..
    Another way of looking at it is the Goode affair, sharpens and refines those who are dedicated to genuine fact finding, separating them from those who are merely sensation seeking.

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    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    Meanwhile back with NASA an interesting/amusing article ......


    US Republican asks Nasa if civilisation on Mars existed

    US Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, a California Republican, asked
    the scientist leading Nasa's Mars Rover programme if an ancient
    civilisation existed on Mars.
    4h ago From the section US & Canada
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-u...n-mars-existed


    Published on 18 Jul 2017
    Full story on Space.com: https://www.space.com/37534-mars-civi...
    US congressman Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA 48th District) asked a select NASA
    panel about the possibility of civilizations on Mars "thousands of years ago."
    Footage from the Space Subcommittee Hearing - Planetary Flagship Missions:
    Mars Rover 2020 and Europa Clipper.
    So let’s think about this….NASA says there were no civilizations on Mars when asked the question in the video above dated July 18, 2017:
    ‘there’s no evidence…..that is extremely unlikely’- NASA official Dr. Farley

    Next we have Ex-CIA (but still under contract)Robert David Steele says there’s over 10,000 people on a colony there currently.

    And don’t forget Dr. John Brandenburg who wrote the notorious book Life and Death on Mars, was given ‘the green light by the Pentagon’ according to him, to release his findings at the 2016 AIAA Space Conference. He uses scientific data to confirm that 2 EMP had been detonated over Mars approx. 250 million years ago, which clearly suggests ‘somebody’ had this type of technological capability and one can only assume the point of this exercise was to destroy any evidence of an existing civilization on MARS. Oh, and don’t forget, NASA was more than present at this conference.

    Anyone a bit confused? lol

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    Quote Posted by we-R-one (here)

    Anyone a bit confused? lol
    Naahah, the confusion is a symptom of a decapitated society. The missing information/knowledge leaves us guessing and constructing possibilites with the mental energy we should be using to process and advance a full set of information.

    In this case it's pretty obvious that the missing information is that there are people in dark highish places who need to create a big commotion around this general subject.

    From there on, we are in the guessing game again.

    NASA normally ignores everything it doesn't want the public to catch on to. For them to deny a claim made by RDS on the Alex Jones show is as clear a sign as ever needed that some big players are screwing with our heads right now.

    In just my own opinion, it's not a sign the 'cabal' are in any kind of crisis or losing their grip on the so called secret space coverup. I guess they are trying to make a manoeuvre from one position to another that requires a hefty shot of social engineered excitement to make it transpire as they wish it to.

    Confused, I'm not, just scratching my head and guessing why the obvious is right there in our faces.
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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    I am not American and may not understand what is a 3 years study "2.9" in religion. Does that means you have been undergraduate in a universty for 2.9 years, or you have been 2.9 years at Jonestown or in Scientology? does it mean anything?

    However, I understand it as studying cults and religious behavior/guruism.... hum..... interesting
    APOLOGIES for the 'non-images': Photobucket.com now requires $400 per year to post. Which means all of my images are unavailable.

    Assuming the college information Corey posted was truthful, his academic achievement level was a 2.9 out of a 4.0, i.e., B/B-. (see chart below) It doesn’t show that he completed his course work in Pre-Ministry Religion and Psychology, Religion and Psychology, otherwise he would’ve added Bachelor of Science (B.S.) or Bachelor of Arts (B.A.).

    Typically, it takes four years to complete. It is possible to do it in less time if you take summer courses and/or carry more classes every semester. Judging by his work ethic, 4 months here and 3 months there, it’s not in his nature to complete four years in three.


    Interesting to note the Southern Nazarene University motto: Character, Culture, Christ.



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    Default Thank You so much Bill Ryan for the Dolan Interview

    I'm sorry if this has already been posted. Im sure the interview has. The points made were absolutely true to the core. My two favorite Alt researchers playing off each other.
    But the theme itself is what is so empirically important in this field. This field of Ufology
    MUST BE PROTECTED. I'm seeing more and more fantastical stories from people whose tales absolutely cannot be verified or studied or researched in any way possible. I believe that this field is being attacked by members of certain agencies once again to make the field seem utterly ridiculous to the person taking a peek. I can't believe that groups such as MUFON and others would entertain these characters whose names I won't name, but should be blatantly obvious. I will name just one... Steele. I was horrified to watch his "interview" with Kerry who I respect greatly. He obviously wanted only the information he could control, as he rudely seemed to lead and steer the interview to fit his agenda. The books coming out from all these new "insiders".... give me a break.
    These "whistleblowers" coming out are so incredibly ridiculous and unverifiable, it boggles the mind. I don't know if these people are insane, just want the spotlight, or what but my belief is that it is much darker. It's more muddying of the waters. As I said before I suspect certain agencies are responsible. Either way, it's just BS and it makes people run from the topic, and therefore the entire field itself. The whole field needs a good bleaching.
    Are the days gone when intellectuals could discuss and debate this topic with some semblance of sanity and good intention? Or are we all just going to stand back and watch the freak show? I apologize for rambling but I can't bite my tongue any longer.
    Thanks again Bill Ryan for the interview. If anyone is questioning my remarks, please, just watch the interview.
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    Default Re: Thank You so much Bill Ryan for the Dolan Interview

    hey Slant, well said and i think Bill will be doing a follow up conversation in the near future (with Dolan)


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